Can i have the link plz cause I'm not getting

Ooh I love this idea. Second this!

Don't we have @ServeTheHome for that?

Four words, Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny PCs. Used market on these are not bad and have much more capability once you get into the i5 and i7 models. Also, they are very easy to maintain and upgrade to SSD and better ram.

@@MrMega200 Agreed! I picked up a refurb micro form factor HP Elitedesk for just about $150(usd) and it won't go up to 11 without creativity but it runs 10 just fine and I'm planning to use it for a home server (I upgraded the ram and the nvme drive is on the way). Better price/specs than a Raspberry Pi with the current market rates

I have an 80$ pc and i played farcry4 so i don't see this mini pc worth it 💀

@@whitetiger-7752 the size

@@NippyNep the size isn’t worth it at all, can’t put a cheap gpu in it

​@@OfficialzThunderyou can attach an external one

@@farisakhtar4824 no, you can't

Thin clients are $800? At that point, why not just purchase a standard PC? Unless you’re remoting into a server for like CAD work or something

@@bandombeviews6035 I guess the IT or company want control over employees

My guess is that's exactly why... things like CAD, 3D software, or specific environments that are able to be monitored and controlled like the other comment here mentioned@@bandombeviews6035

​@@bandombeviews6035large corporations will pay for the convenience of centralized management. When I worked IT in an office we were buying horrendously overpriced (I think like $700) Dell WYSE thin clients, but they could be remotely managed so all you had to do was know the 5 digit ID and you could connect to it and re image it all from another location. They took about 5 minutes to start up win10 which was locked down to only accessing edge, which was locked to accessing a single web site to log into your remote desktop session.

@@bandombeviews6035 Fair question. I saw that going right back to the 1990s.. they'd sell X servers (for UNIX system use), then thin clients (typically X server and Windows Remote Desktop client basically) for prices like that, well into the territory where you could have just bought a PC and popped it on their desk even if it was just working as a thin client connecting into some remote system.

Word

he literally tested emulation on it and it sucked ass,a windows 10 boot is seriously not that impressive if opening a web page takes 2 minutes lmfao mini pc's can be way more capable than this

​@@jeanvaljean6433yeah, he tested emulation in windows 10, but anyone buying this as an alternative to a raspberry pi is going to have Linux on it and emulation station. I would love for you to do a review on a brand new complete windows computer that will run GTA 5 or Skyrim better than this for $100 or less.

@@jeanvaljean6433 Install lakka or a light linux distro on it then. Windows 10 is too bloated for this thing.

yep, I'm watching KZfaq in my living room on a Celeron 2957U.

what the hell is home file server?

These mini pcs are awesome for office work

@@sebastjansslavitis3898 Google your question

@@uhm175 lol. He was totally baiting that guy. I Love your response

At the mid point between a thin client and a full computer.

bet all the people that work at the medical clinic are gaming on them and playing gta 5 😂

Nice

Good to know about this!

6W even for a laptop is pathetic. ThrottleStop all the way!

Same thing happened with my old atom x5 tablet the CPU power limit was I think 2.41watts and the GPU was 4watts or something I tried some latest games on it the CPU clock get's down to 480mhz. It was an Acer Aspire Switch. Currently it is connected to my non smart tv

And also 4GB of soldered RAM is of course the next thing that limited its capability. 4GB in Windows PC is barely enough for basic task in 2023 unless you are brave enough to debloat all the intrusive Microsoft stuff (like disabling telemetry and removing some unnecessary system apps to cut down the RAM usage)

What is seen in the Bioshock gameplay is the cpu adjusting to a more efficient frequency rather than staying at high, more power-hungry clocks just because. This is demonstrated by the utilization barely breaking 70% even at sub 1GHz, the game is entirely gpu bound. Still, I support the notion of the using ThrottleStop in a system like this, and the cooling can absolutely handle more power since it rarely went over 40C at 6w.

Yeah this or like a laptop from around 2012 - 2016 with an ssd in it & a fresh battery probably is another good option for like 20 - 150$. Two laptops i got around here is a samsung np355v5c hd 7670m, amd a8 4500m & 8 gb ram which i only needed a charger for (25$) & got free otherwise without a hdd & battery is gone as well. But i don't use it much anyway so i don't really need a battery. Bit low res screen from what im used too on my desktop pc but for webbrowsing & looking at KZfaq perfect hooked up too said 1080p display instead of my desktop pc with mouse & keyboard its nice. Runs older singleplayer games like half-life 2, fear, stalker shadow of chernobyl fine, slapped in a leftover 240 gb pny cs 900 ssd after i put in a 1 tb m.2 as a games drive in my desktop pc running Atlas OS which is a bit slimmed down version of windows 10 pro, havent bought a license for the laptop for now at least. My secondary laptop the Lenovo T420 I'm running as a wifi repeater atm. 4 gb ram 320 gb spinning rust drive with like 38k hours probably at this point, bought it from my uni for 30$ a year after i graduated in 2016 with like 2500 hours on the hdd. Harddrive is slow as balls on it, specially with a stock windows 10 install but as it only runs as a wifi repeater it's fine too leave as is, it's literally just left too idle next too my desk with webcam & mic disabled.

Look up Lenovo Thinkcentre Tiny PCs. You can pick up an used model with an i5-4570T, 8GB ram, 500GB HDD for about $55.

I saw someone trying to compile mongoDB for Arm v8 (officially release compiled for Arm v8a) on a Pi. It was of course a diaster. A $100 x86 alternative is a no-brainer

If you don't need IO pins just buy a small used office. At least Intel 4th gen and part of the core series.

@@Sunlight91 those are bulky

Why not just use a raspberry pi 4 for like cheaper if you want emulation for the same price

@@deanasher2155 Because you likely won't be offered a free Pi from your office job when they cycle out the old machines? This kind of device is common, as is them being given out to employees when retired from use.

​@@deanasher2155there is a use case for x86 mini pcs over arm boards

@@flyingfajitas lol my old phone does way better at emulation, even my s9 phone from 2018 can play gamecube

Actually, I kind of like it. I mean it's not a Windows gaming PC but it's a step up in power from a Raspberry Pi. 4GB of memory might be limited but I grew up squeezing the last bits of power out of a C64 so I've never actually _used_ 4GB of memory.

​@@immortalsofar5314my first PC had a 8mb integrated graphics card and was using AOL you had it easy lol

not really. you can buy a laptop for like $125-150 thats more powerful than whatever this thing is lol. Heck, even a used laptop for $100 is more impressive.

@@thelonercoder5816its form factor, its small and compact because it serves a niche purpose which you probably won’t understand

lol

Useful for 'downloading network drivers', when you have no internet access because of lack of network drivers.

I'm surprised he didn't see how well it handles decoding an Xbox Game Pass or GeForce NOW cloud gaming stream.

My thoughts excactly. It would be nice to see this tested for a realistic use case like an Android TV box.

Something with a chip like the rk3588 would be much more suited than this I think, though they might cost a touch more... I just noticed a newer one with a cut down rk3588s being announced on liliputing in my rss feed on me phone called the Radxa Rock5 model A which seems to be on pre-order for $89 (30 discount) for the 8gb LPDDR4 version however. That is just a bare board similar to buying a pi, mind, but a kind of tempting price for an 8 core chip with a quad core mali gpu :).. the model B has more usb and hdmi and PCIe3.0 from what I can tell and came out for sale last year but is quite a bit more pricey, at least compared to the preorder discount. There are a few reviews of devices with the rk3588 being used for emulation up to ps2 and gamecube in android which is pretty good going, but it seems they have also gotten it fully supported in reborn os arch linux now which also makes it more of an actual budget mini pc competitor. Even for things like a plex server I guess since they claim it can encode 16 channels of 1080p30 and comes with 1gig ethernet and wifi 6e, lol.. not sure, I am tempted to grab one for a nosey however :)

I’m thinking of picking it up with just that in mind.

im curious what you use it for. I could see maybe using something like this as a digital signage player. MAYBE a thin client.

@@bobowon5450 that’s exactly it, digi signs

My main machine died when I was broke and I ended up using an Asus EEE netbook (with external everything) to run my business for a year _and_ play a few games. This one is probably about as powerful so stick Linux on there and it's perfectly usable. Just probably not as a windows AAA gaming machine.

honestly yes

😃

I really wish he removed all the cynicism from his videos. It's a $100 mini pc and he's insulting it because it won't run triple A games. That mini pc has many use cases where it would be amazing.

@@halfwaytomars No, Actually, he is insulting it because it is marketed for gaming and it CLEARLY is NOT a gaming PC.

@@bm1066 At the beginning he mentions it was not marketed as a gaming PC. "Gaming" was part of a generic list of use cases.

​@@halfwaytomars what triple a games, GTA 5 came out ten years ago, bioshock came out 16 years ago, and half life 2 came out like 19 years ago, and it struggled to run any of them

@@Astroooozi age of the game changes what computers can run it. It's why portable handheld PCs can run GTA 5... File sizes are one of the simplest things to fix to run a game lol.....

how well did it game?🤣🤣🤣

@@raven4k998 but did it game..... lol

my chromebook that was like 130 dollars can run vids in 1080p and also 4k

Yes,with a little bit fine tuning it can be more efficient, I think ( in my case ) it can run as mqtt server,Kodi,Arduino IDE, PlatformIO and some more things perfectly.

Hey, be happy! Returns get sold for cheaper to us poor plebs

New as in newly bought or as in newly released?

@@HappyBeezerStudios Both

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep So if I buy an i5-9600K now I would have to wait a couple months until it gets patched colder?

@@HappyBeezerStudios No, not like that haha. It'd be a fresh install of Windows so it wouldn't be the same as a laptop

I personally use my Dell Studio with a Core 2 Duo for that. It's a lot bigger and less efficient, but oh well.

Exactly. Not a machine that should do heavy tasks on end. Just short bursts of acceleration.

Yeah, that's a good price for a kiosk type PC. My company (before I left) was paying well over that to buy Dell wyze thin clients with similar specs, they were restricted down to a browser login for citrix to launch Citrix hosted apps. The dells were probably 250. Although this won't have remote management... Can't reimage one of these remotely, so I get why they paid for the professional product... But for a small company? Perfect.

@@volvo09 oh yeah, and I've worked on worse specced POS thin clients. This is the only time I will say soldered RAM and storage is good: when the goal is a device whose whole life is to logon to a web interface and do data entry. Like, this PCa entire life is going to be sitting under a dust filled desk with terrible ventilation while someone hammers on a greasy keyboard all day long as it sends data to a backend server to do the actual compute work.

So I have a laptop that is basically that. R9 6900HS and 680M. I get similar performance to a 1650 mobile when I unlock the power limit. With that limit unlocked though I have seen 45W on the iGPU alone. The RDNA3 APUs should be even faster. We might even see 2060Max-Q performance out of them.

I had a similar one, Spolier: No, it doesn't and input lag goes to the moon

Nvidia Jetson... thank me later

Oh, yes!

the fuck is going on at your christamases

4k 69FPS else trash pc

@@xaimbotytx3393 69k 420 fps

@@loxymods 420k 69.420FPs

@@xaimbotytx3393 even better

I would highly recommend getting surplus mini PCs like a HP ProDesk mini rather than these things. I got mine (has a 4590T CPU) off a bulk seller from ebay for $65 CAD that had everything minus RAM and SSD. Throw in a cheap $15-20 120GB SSD and maybe $10-20 for a 4gb ddr3 sodimm (may even be able to get cheaper per stick from a bulk lot), you end up paying around the same for a substantially better machine.

@@gen_angry I was almost certain the problem with this solution was too much power draw, but I had to double check by researching... Apparently those little prodesk computers are fairly low in consumption. It looks like the one in the video still has a bit less than half the power draw. It's a really important consideration for developing countries in rural environments that might run all run off of one power generator and might need to turn off sections of a "grid" at certain times of day for basic needs that we take for granted in the developed world.

Hmm, for that price you could build a 3 rPi supercomputer cluster.

@@joe--cool uh... Have you checked prices on the Raspberry Pi recently? If they were available at MSRP yes but they sure aren't, sadly

@@SilentdragonDe There was one 4B 1GB in stock for 60 bucks when I checked but they are gone now. Crazy. I ordered some with 2GB last year for 40 bucks. Pretty insane. All you get now is a Pine A64+ 2GB for that price.

Yeah but they also have kits that include all of that for about the same price.

The worst part is, that people actually cherishing being ripped off $100 USD for some ultra-cheap (as in _shoddy_ in terms of quality, contrary to _inexpensive_ …) low-performance compute-box with utter sub-standard performance-metrics and horrible price-performance ratio, which is based upon a low-grade Dual-core of 2016, without any Hyperthreading mind you! *I mean, even the Raspberry Pi has a quad-core since years now!* A darn dual-core, even _with·out_ anything Hyperthreading in 2023, being tortured to death by of all things Windows 10 … Let's face it, it would be better of with either FreeDOS or anythign Linux/Unix. Since anything Windows past Windows 7 reduces this box to actually environmentally polluting e-waste and Intel should be charged huge fines to even issue such scrap-hardware in the first place … insurmountable

​@@Smartcom5 It's funny that if you don't mind getting an old computer, you actually get a far more powerful PC if you buy a corporate one. I've been using an i5-2400 based corporate PC that only cost 40 dollars for a long time now.

@@TheSteveTheDragon You likely misunderstood me, I've nothing against older hardware per se. I'm just stupefied by the amount of people who cheer upon being actually ripped off with glorified Intel e-Junk and pay hundreds of dollars for substandard shoddy hardware. This stuff is just e-Waste and nothing more.

@@Smartcom5 On that, I agree.

@@TheSteveTheDragon For real, _I'm serious here_ ... *It should be a criminal offense to utter this outdated junk into the market, by anyone!* - Everyone who is evidently complicit in putting such low-grade stuff or other obsolete substandard hardware alike in circulation (read: retailers), should be fined by law with substantial amounts of fines over environmental pollution by proxy, due to spread and imminent distribution of e-waste in the form of electronic rejects. … and in any case of whatsoever recurrence or contraventions, clandestine or overtly, the amounts of financial penalties shall be doubled up to 50 percent of yearly revenue, to make it worthwhile - but no less than at least $1M/months of distribution. No offense, but these discards are nothing but literal _electronic scrap_ (apart from the fact that the pure manufacturing of such stuff is a waste of precious earth and resources). These CPUs are so damn shoddy, low-grade and of such under-performing and for sure inefficient nature, that it's economically insane to even fab this e-waste in today's world in the first place. Bear in mind, that these low-grade Intel Atoms are just more or less enhanced original-Pentiums from back in the nineties (look it up, it's actually true) and are by no means comparable to anything of today's Ryzen- or Core-class CPUs. These pieces are so weak computational-wise, that it only can sufficiently run anything DOS or grass-root Windows (as in Win 3.1/95), if anything. Look up the actual processor, and you'll see, that it's often some age-old 14nm scrap, which by itself was merely some refreshed 28nm and re-issued single- or dual-core chip from back in 2009. At this particular SKU, it's the Intel Celeron Processor N3350, a dual-core on 14nm from 2016! *This is literally a EIGHT YEARS OLD CPU being sold and repackaged as 'new' ..* -- The sole reason why the marklet is flooed with it and why these useless CPUs are found to be literally in every Mini-PC or NUC-class barebone, is a) since Intel sells these bits for outrageous inflated price-tags north of $100 USD/apiece, just so that Intel can literally pay the OEMs huge 'rebates' to equip their products with it and b) Intel uses these waste-CPUs to clean their fabrication-lines and keep their fabs running (since it's exceedingly more costy to leave a fab running than to fab literally anything). Please don't think I would've anything against Intel here, I don't. I would warn people being ripped off by AMD just as likewise - It's just that AMD doesn't even _produces_ anything below a Quad-core since easily 2009 or so (AMD Athlon Phenom X3) and at least doesn't try to dupe customers into buying age-old obsolete feeble hardware ever since. You can't even buy anything below a quad-core from AMD in the first place, and rightfully so! Though Intel does this shenanigans since the 80s already and floods the market with low-grade CPUs ever since, just for them to ramp up their fabrication-lines and improve yields, until actual stuff is fabricated. It's still eWaste though, adn the usual way it goes, is, that people buy this crap, see for themselves that it's unable to run anything decent and later on it gets just tossed aside into the bin for naught (meanwhile Intel made their unfair share and pollutes the world even further with mountains of electronic wastes).

If you don't want gpio pins then yes

You can...

Yeah...my 10 year old super weak PC runs high end 3D games like Gears 5 really well through XBOX PC Game Pass (cloud).

For the 3DS and Playstation 1 perhaps. This thing clearly isn't meant for gaming of any kind but portable office work. Why you wouldn't buy a cheap laptop at that price point or slightly above and have a screen included, I don't know.