This and That: 2022 Olympic Games Figure Skating Preview

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The 2022 Olympic Games are upon us and we are here to preview all of the figure skating action in the team and individual events! Mikhail Kolyada is out with COVID, Daniil Gleikhengauz may or may not be positive, and the athletes around the world are praying to get through the Beijing testing protocol. We are breaking down all of the big questions: who should compete in the team event? Which skaters will compete? Will Team Tutberidze sweep the women's podium? Can Sui and Han defeat Mishina and Galliamov? What about Tarasova and Morozov? Can Papadakis and Cizeron win gold over Sinitsina and Katsalapov? Will Yuzuru Hanyu go for the gold or the quad axel? Will Nathan Chen right the wrongs of 2018? We break it all down on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
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@xiangnibian8473 2 жыл бұрын

Team event should be scheduled after the individual competition. In that way, athletes may have higher spirit to participate in the team event, particularly those unlucky in the individuals, team event gives them a chance to redeem themselves in a way.

@SunflowerCat333 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree! I think it’s really unreasonable to require the athletes to compete for the team before their own event. If they get injured competing for the team, it could remove their ability to complete their primary objective, which is to compete in their own event.

@michelledegeorge5708 2 жыл бұрын

I think in some ways they want it to become similar to gymnastics in that the team competition is most sentimentally important and comes first, both in chronology and in priority....? I don't necessarily agree but it is an interesting concept....

@xiangnibian8473 2 жыл бұрын

@@michelledegeorge5708 That must be the ISU’s reason. But I would argue that just because water polo plays with a ball, then we can teach how to play basket ball in a pool. Skating requires skates and ice while gym requires bear feet and a floor.

@annwhite1 2 жыл бұрын

@Xiangni Bian Totally agree!

@susantoker7254 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the individual skaters would be fresh and could use all their energies. The team event would be a bit more "fun" and a bit of redemption.

@samuelschlotfeldt272 2 жыл бұрын

it must be so hard for Dani G to know if he has covid or not. how can he tell when he had no taste to begin with???

@Jumblebelle 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, that’s just too good. Bravo 👏 😂

@QQ-wl6yt 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t know if Adam is going as Mariah’s coach (remember something about a one-coach only thing), but maybe we won’t see anybody with a preposterous tacky outfit with a gazillion logos in the kiss and cry.

@milagros._529 2 жыл бұрын

😆🤣🤣🤣

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

Good jab, I applaud lol

@zackwilson8701 2 жыл бұрын

When Dave talked about how Dani has aged since 2016 I fricking lost it 😂

@shomaunofan8486 2 жыл бұрын

Timestamp (while watching): 1:40 team lineup + logistic -8:15 pairs go last in team events -10:45 4 teams going for team medal -10:53 team Canada -11:43 Covid travel protocols -13:29 how team events points works (Lost all my previous edits 😭😭😭) Team Russia -14:40 what Russia will do -21:21 what Dave and Jonathan will do Team usa - 24:18 what team USA would do - 28:26 what Dave/Jonathan would do 34:55 team Canada (very fast talk) Team japan 35:58 what Japan would do? 38:26 what Dave/Jonathan would do 42:35 Covid Russia situation 48:25 redemption at last olympics -53:16 sui&han -57:20-1:00:23 papadakis & cizeron-then into ice dance individual medals 1:05:00 ladies podium 1:12:24 men podium (can I be bias and said Shoma win gold here :) or have shoma and yuzuru be on team event and somehow get team gold for japan -then win for all around :) 1:20:31 very brief on dance 1:21:21 pairs

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your timestamps!

@AuroraR 2 жыл бұрын

Your timestamps are the best! Thank you 😊

@BrentWolgamott 2 жыл бұрын

BLESS YOU FOT PROMPT TIME STAMPS that are CONCISE and EASY and not an essay! 😜😜😜❤️❤️❤️

@SunflowerCat333 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! ❤️

@lgrace6610 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@katerinakrief8682 2 жыл бұрын

I still somehow hope for Tuktamysheva to get a chance to participate in the Olympics.

@PatriciaFredanel 2 жыл бұрын

Chock reposting the team event tv times makes me think you’re right, Dave! That dance bronze medal is going to be so fun to watch.

@MyOwnJudgement 2 жыл бұрын

The exitement living up to the olympics while watching This and That every week just keeps on building! (I was even watching old episodes in between last Sunday and this video) I'm so hyped up for the olympics thanks to you guys! Hope it will all be wonderfull! ♡♡♡

@skatefan9495 2 жыл бұрын

My head says Mishina and Galliamov. My heart says Sui and Han. I am going with my heart.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on head v heart

@erikaburns9821 2 жыл бұрын

Part of me wonders if Nikita will have a Plushenko moment where he delivers in the team event and then has back issues in the individual and either underperforms or have to pull out. Back issues make me nervous in big competitions… 😬

@MC-pm3gp 2 жыл бұрын

I think with it being Moskvina's last Olympics, she's going to do everything possible to make sure Mishina & Galliamov are as perfectly polished as possible. She wants to go out with a bang and they're her final swan song.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

Did she say she is going to retire as a coach? However this is Sui and Hans last Olympics and they are worlds above both moskvina teams so if they skate clean, no matter what, moskvinas teams should not beat Sui and Han, as much as I admire her, her teams are not to the level of a clean Sui and han

@miriam3848 2 жыл бұрын

Yudzu can do whatever he wants! He's an accomplished athlete, he's not killing his career if things don't go perfectly.

@laurievuitton1624 2 жыл бұрын

Long time viewer & fan of your channel/& socials. Thank you so much for your input each week. I really enjoy & look forward to your educated opinions. It's going to be a super fun February & I'll look forward to your insights :)

@koalaskating4863 2 жыл бұрын

Best way to start the week! Every Sunday with TSL❤️

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@maria375s 2 жыл бұрын

Watching you two gentlemen is the highlight of my Sunday!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@anthonydolio8118 2 жыл бұрын

Dave: Thank you so much. The conversation was fascinating as always, and has increased my excitement for the Olympics.

@KatieGregoire 2 жыл бұрын

I think your gut feeling about Chock/Bates is right, Dave. At NHK the judges had them so close to the Russians in the short, and gave them almost 125 with a fall in the free. Meanwhile, Hubbell/Donahue can’t break 126 with strong skates. I guess we’ll see what shakes out! 🤷🏼‍♀️

@kimmietooshoes 2 жыл бұрын

I think it helps that C/B free dance is different than the other top 6 teams. They all went slow and romantic or classical, and love or hate C/B alien program, at least it’s out of the box.

@blinky7046 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to believe that there's a possibility Wakaba could be excluded from the team event, but now that you mention it, making Kaori do both the SP and FS would be the most JSF thing

@joeyartk 2 жыл бұрын

Wakaba doing 3A in SP is better bet. Kaori relies completely on friendly judging with her content. Young You or Leona could beat her depending on the judges.

@blinky7046 2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyartkSouth Korea and Belgium aren't doing the team event. Unlike Pyeongchang where Canada had Kaetlyn & Gabby and Italy had Carolina, it won't be as hard for Japan to earn 9 points in the SP and FS regardless of how they use Wakaba, which is why I'd be really upset if they exclude her

@joeyartk 2 жыл бұрын

@@blinky7046 Oh ok. Thanks. Yea, I would like her to get a good performances in over that ice before the individual skate.

@nxstellar3691 2 жыл бұрын

This is so exciting! I love to hear opinions, and to get immersed in the skating world, much love

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@gayled_it5012 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Hi. Where do you go to see the list of judges?

@Patrick-vj1qu 2 жыл бұрын

I remember coming across this show right after the 2018 Olympics and taught me IJS and I’ve been hooked since:)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️🙏

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

It's nice to talk to fans everyone I know could care less about skating.

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

I remember coming across this show in early 2013

@AuroraR 2 жыл бұрын

I came across this show because of gymnastics. I stayed for the Russian drama.

@shantarakelian1998 2 жыл бұрын

Really great video! I look forward to the Olympics!

@naailtariq5930 2 жыл бұрын

Great show! Will you guys being doing one after every event, like after the Men's Free, Ladies' Free, etc... or will you guys recap each short program to?

@vanessafreitas1000 2 жыл бұрын

Great show! Such an exciting week! It’s awful to say but, after watching The Edge, I’m kind of not so excited for Hubbel and Donohue as I was before. I don’t know if it’s because the Papadakis-Cizeron’s situation. She was kind of rude towards them. Although I think it’s just the way she talks. I mean, she seems to be a very honest person, that friend that says what we need to hear. But also what I took from it, it’s that they think they only have the French as opponents. They don’t even consider Chock and Bates. This just rings such a bad vibe, bad energy to me. And I agree that Chock and Bates can be ahead of them at the Olympics as they were at Nationals. Well, we’ll soon find out! Good Olympics to everyone ❤️

@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын

It's not awful, her remarks were classless and rude, not just towards P/C but in relation to all their training mates. She's tone deaf, and her assuredness that she should be closer to P/C is laughable. If I was Gabby and heard my "friend" speaking about me in such a manner in a public forum, I'd never talk to her again. I think MFD should have taken it upon herself to silence Hubbell or dismiss her from the rink.

@vanessafreitas1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@thesupremediva Yes, Meghan. I agree with you. I'd never talk to her again if I was Gabby. I said awful because I was just not comfortable about judging her based on a show that could be edited in certain way but, at the end, she said those things.

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

Darn, this makes me not want to watch that now, because H&D are my favorite team after P&C and I still want to like them.

@Hithere-dl2cx 2 жыл бұрын

What did she said? I'm not into this situation. Thanks

@MrsLeila92 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I'm looking for every weekend!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@reneecarlson1784 2 жыл бұрын

Love the smiles on both of your faces - this is so exciting!!

@haikushfotlyan4367 2 жыл бұрын

Exciting. Going to be a wild ride next couple weeks

@hbattagl 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Dave and Jonathan (and all lovely people here 😊), could you please rally for the team event to be held AFTER the individuals? I remember you mention that in the past and it makes so much more sense stamina-wise, and for psychological reasons…?

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

We don't have that power.

@hbattagl 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson YES, you do! Don’t underestimate your power; Russia is listing to you?!👍

@Person-mh6xq 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Plus, the general audience doesn't always want to watch the same programs twice (unlike big skating fans).

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

I dunno with other sports that have this team event format, but artistic gymnastic also does team event first then individual. The peak event is individual and you wouldn't want to put your best first, otherwise TE would not have enough viewers. From the athletes perspective, individual events first is a no brainer.

@svetlanak1043 2 жыл бұрын

Agree, it would be so much better for the skaters. Plus, that’s how it is done for the Worlds.

@alexandralux759 2 жыл бұрын

Im so excited I can not wait to hear all the drama. I loved hearing your opinions. Thank you so much for giving me a great start of the week. 😀😀

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@msmo2060 2 жыл бұрын

Why isn’t the team event held after the individual medals? Waiting would stress me out to no end… I really admire their ability to keep it together & look happy …. I’m a mess just thinking about that

@alzbeta2967 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, as hard as it is to make a confident decision with this guy since you never know what he pulls off and thinks (he definitely doesn't listen to his coaches at this point, which is understandable as he can pretty much coach himself with the amount of experience he has, but sometimes this fact is concerning), I believe that Yuzuru will go for the 4A, even if that meant losing the gold - to me, he seems like extremely stubborn and determined human-being and this 4A obsession of his has been going for so long. Add this to the fact that he has already won the Olympics twice, winning it three times would be amazing for everyone, including him of course, but he already has two gold Olympic medals at home and I believe that since his "relationship" with Nathan is on the friendly and full-on respect side, he would be pleased if Nathan was awarded for his performance and talent - if they were literal rivals on and off ice, it would be another story. If he never won Olympics before, of course, he would go for the safer choice and not do the 4A, but this is very likely his last Olympics (as I don't believe he will still be around to compete at 31 during the next Olympics) and there will never be a more legendary event to jump the 4A at - the whole world is watching this unlike the Worlds and other competitions during the season. Even if he didn't end up with the gold around his neck, he would still be known as the guy who jumped the 4A or at least attempted to do so and that is also a massive accomplishment. Plus Fanyus and the Chinese fans and media, who absolutely adore this guy, would probably make a way bigger sensation of it than Nathan's win.

@TheFlowMind 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think he’s going to do the 4A. It’ll be a deliberate loss and Japan really wants a medal in the individual and team event.

@T.K.T 2 жыл бұрын

He will absolutely attempt the 4A - in all his interviews he says his goal is to both land the 4A and win the OGM, or rather, win by nailing the 4A

@user-iw5ou5yo6u 2 жыл бұрын

I’m worried about Sui/Han, if they lose gold again at home Olympics, it will be devastating. And I’ve seen the video of Boyang training his 4Lz at the Beijing rink and it’s so beautiful and I just want a good skate for him🙏🏻 Also it’s so unreal to see photos and videos from the Olympics rink, I can’t believe the Olympics are already here✨

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very worried about Sui/Han, considering the scoring in the Euros 2022 where all records were broken. They cannot make any mistakes at all because the other teams are scored like they're head to head in quality. The only team that I believe is on par in quality is only T/M but you know what happened with FS, all 3 Russians look like they can beat S/H

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@yohanes2034 it’s so disgusting honestly, I agree the only team who COULD beat them is T/M. They are the best Russian pair right now by a mile. If they were consistent, the federation would give a shit about M/G but because T/M are such mess ups and cannot be trusted, they had to turn to their second best team and over score them to high heavens. If it was scored fairly, and both sui and Han and M/G put out clean skates, sui and Han should be ahead by a mile. But unfortunately this is figure skating

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 yes even if S/H have stepout or even fall from sbs 3S, they should lead just because M/G PCS is far too generous. Also who was petitioning to reduce BV of 4twist and 4thr? --> Rusfed. The same fed who argue that women should be allowed to jump quads in the SP said 4twist and 4thr are dangerous hence BV should be reduced (to discourage pairs and reduce injuries). The hypocrite of them all

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@yohanes2034 it’s so sad because they should be worlds ahead in terms of pcs, M/G free program is just… meh. Cool tricks but pcs wise it’s meh. Sui and Han are literally magical and I say this as quite a fan of Russian pairs skaters. Last Olympics, the pairs were judged fairly, in my opinion. Sui and Han had many mistakes in the free and they came second where I think they should have, S/M fairly won. But my gosh these Olympics, Russia is just being greedy as hell, especially in dance, thinking that Nikita and his terrible twizzles can seriously beat the French. And what a coincidence. I am sick of this hypocrisy. When it comes to the women, not allowing quads in the short is discrimination and stopping development of the sport. But in pairs it’s too dangerous. Funny how they weren’t petitioning for the BV to be reduced when T/M were doing the quad twist back in 2018

@joejoematic8206 2 жыл бұрын

Sui/han may lose the gold because of the rediculous PCS judging. The ISU does not want the skaters to be judged from the Artistic side

@kristinab3838 2 жыл бұрын

"How many triples do you believe that Stevie Wonder thinks that Karen rotated at the nationals?" BAH WAHH HAHAHA!!!!!!🤣 LMAO!!!!!!

@loc1976 2 жыл бұрын

Yuzu was the underdog coming into the 2014 and 2018 olympics.... I said before, I think the 4A is primarily propaganda. He's making noise like only he can, people are talking about him, judges are probably watching him closely and probably impressed he pulled a clean program full of quads and full of transitions after that. But I have no doubt he wants to win that 3rd OGM and he'll be strategic. I think he'll probably not jump the 4A at the olys. And I also think he'll be back next season just to land it in competition, and then land all quads in one program. Totally Hanyu goals. LOL

@rajs7876 2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe go to worlds and try the 4A there. He actually publicly said he changed his perspective on the Olympics because winning before seemed unrealistic

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

If he has one of those magical Yuzu performances, where you can hear a pin drop, I think he can win with his PCS. I want Nathan to win, but he hasn't improved his PCS in the last 4 years.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

If he does the SP clean and has a lead, I'd believe his brain would choose over not doing 4A in the FP.

@jorgebonilla2234 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know what he’ll actually do in the FS if he’s contending for gold after the SP, but I have no doubt that this 4A obsession is his way of compartmentalizing and protecting himself against the pressure/narrative of being expected to win a 3rd OGM. I hope he’s at least been practicing layouts with the 4Lo in it instead of the 4A so he can go for it if needed

@loc1976 2 жыл бұрын

@@jorgebonilla2234 It's a good point!

@yugiohlegend 2 жыл бұрын

All your predictions sound spot on. It’s def gonna be 1. Kamila 2/3 Sasha/Anna. I really hope Sasha wins tho :) Good luck to everyone!

@alexmoya8841 2 жыл бұрын

Same! Team Sasha all the way! :)

@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын

I hope Yuma does the team event fs because he recently said in an interview that he wants to do 4Lo at the Olympics and this would provide an opportunity for him to land it in competition before the individual event. Otherwise I think it's really risky to attempt it in the individual event when he hasn't attempted it in competition since the early fall and he landed it with step-outs.

@christinethorp3684 2 жыл бұрын

Yuma really has nothing to lose, though. Why wouldn't he just go for the quad loop?

@evanperilstein5308 2 жыл бұрын

@@christinethorp3684 Because if he falls on it, it could be the difference between him being on or off the podium. It could even throw off the rest of his program. Would you attempt a jump you've never landed with positive GOE before when you could still win an Olympic medal without it? The only reason for him to add the 4Lo to his program is so he has a chance at gold.

@cmadoyle1111 2 жыл бұрын

My heart just bleeds for the amount of pressure Nathan must feel. I don't know how anyone handles pressure like that. My wish for him is two perfect programs and a gold medal, but more than that I just hope that he feels good after both programs and that he did all he could under the circumstances. I'd love to see EVERYONE skate their very best and then watch the politics give the scores.

@shomaunofan8486 2 жыл бұрын

I sincerely hope he got a sport psychiatrist for this Olympic because of what happen in 2018. While a lot can say u can move on, something the past ghost won’t leave u alone and when u doubt even for a second, it can make a gold place finish to fifth place

@gogroregogoror 2 жыл бұрын

The fact Kolyada will not be there is just sooo sudden and random. I don't get it. I get he is positive but no one seems to care. Does anyone remember those amazing FS performances from the last year?

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

So sad.

@almourie 2 жыл бұрын

I think they’re still punishing him for bombing in 2018 😕

@stsin7 2 жыл бұрын

@@almourie they definitely do, it’s ridiculous, their the best artistic skater these days

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

Madison doing the Skims ad is Olympic medal worthy. Let’s see which teams test positive and how the placements happen.

@sophiabudge6114 2 жыл бұрын

The two dance teams both deserve a team medal more than the two women do. I understand the reasoning for not splitting dance, but it's practically a guaranteed medal for both teams. Even if G/P beat them in the team event, they still both have an Olympic medal, while if they just put in one team, that team gets a medal but both teams could still lose to G/P in the individual .

@zackwilson8701 2 жыл бұрын

I really hope they split the dance instead of women's singles. The dance teams are both a t the caliber where they've earned a medal, such as qualifying for the grand prix. Neither Mariah nor Karen was able to do that, or even come close... I like both ladies as people but they haven't earned it. The politics are unfair; no coach is entitled to a medal for the skater if their skater hasn't earned it...

@jcaslove1 2 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Alysa isn't more in the conversation for the Team Event. It seems she's been shrouded in mystery since the last minute coaching change. Ethically, the pairs choice should be based on international scores. Knierim & Frazier have the record high by a US pair by quite a few points. Cain-Gribble & LeDuc have one score that was close to one of K/F's GP scores, but other than that, K/F have had substantially superior scores this year. Ashley and Tim's scores are more in the territory of Calalang & Johnson's.

@InfernoBLK72 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with Alysa is the constant coaching changes. It's kind of reminiscent of Nicole Bobek with all the coaching changes and drama. Her father Arthur is also the problem--he is a true stage parent from hell like Tiffany Chin's mother Marjorie. Our team can't afford inconsistency or mistakes.

@abbibrophy7671 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree with everything you put forward David and Jonathan

@loc1976 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with all the teams, the only thing I think they'll have S/B share the TE with S/K. I think Nikita's back is that bad, and Rusfed still wants that OGM in the individual event. I hope JSF adds Wakaba in the TE!! She'll be ahead of the Americans and the Canadians for sure. I wonder if JSF will add Yuma instead of Shoma, I've never seen JSF behind a skater like they are behind Shoma. Idk. And Canada is such a mess, I'm feeling very confident Japan will get a medal. What remains to be seen is whether it'll be bronze or silver. No offense to the Americans, but I'm rooting for Japan silver! :-)

@lollypop2414 2 жыл бұрын

I think who skates the team event for the Japanese men is entirely up to Yuzuru. If he says he wants the SP, then I think Yuma gets the FS (Shoma is dealing with an ankle injury so I don't see him skating the FS in the team event). If Yuzu wants to skate the FS then I think Shoma gets the SP (he's been more consistent in the short than Yuma this season). If Yuzu decides he doesn't want to skate the team event then I think it will be Shoma in the SP and Yuma in the FS. I definitely don't see any of the Japanese men skating both programs in the team event. I think the American team could try to arrange to have their men skate based off of who is skating for Japan. So if Yuzuru skates the SP, then Nathan skates the SP. If Yuzu skates the FS, then Nathan skates the FS. Vincent would skate against Shoma or Yuma. With that said, I don't think that's what Team USA will do. I think Nathan will skate the SP no matter what and Vincent will skate the FS. I think Nathan having injury problems will definitely keep him from skating two FS at the Games.

@Cooltiger28 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say that Olympics is going to be a really interesting. Love to see you both.

@susiesfinds 2 жыл бұрын

You guys sound like Marta Karolyi putting together the "team" for the Olympic Gold team event LOL!!! Love it :)🤣

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

@BmcC102 2 жыл бұрын

Bravo, Dave and Jonathan!

@niharikad8617 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this preview!!!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@haikushfotlyan4367 2 жыл бұрын

I hope we split the dance teams. Both deserve a medal

@rebekahquinley8093 2 жыл бұрын

I love Sunday afternoon chores with TSL. (Okay really I love TSL and that makes doing chores passable.)

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

@larhumba4233 2 жыл бұрын

I think the Team Event can ruin your individual performance. We've seen it happen too often in all disciplines since Sochi, starting with Julia Lipnitskaya. I also think of Marchei/Hotarek in Pyeongchang.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

It can also start great momentum

@julesc3089 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like USA is the underdog. I am supporting our team even though we are the underdog.

@snezhanagorelova9008 2 жыл бұрын

@@julesc3089 USA isn't an underdog at all. Almost secured silver medal. In case some troubles with Russian team like Covid or Nikitas back it could turn into gold. The underdog in this event is Canada.

@schauspielersven 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to watch later!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@arlettetrinidad5156 2 жыл бұрын

Great way to start my Monday.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

@erin750i 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a great preview! I’m really excited to see what happens and I hope C&B can pull off a silver, that would be great. I hope they surprise us all and bring back the snake dance! The team event is going to be the tensest one yet.

@scook5599 2 жыл бұрын

Chock & Bates bringing back the snake dance would be awesome! I think it is a sure winner!

@janetwatkinson745 2 жыл бұрын

It's never been a good thing to bring back an old programme in dance.Dont think they'd do it at this late stage. The programmes need to he polished at the peak for olympics.

@RED-cy7ig 2 жыл бұрын

Let the Games begin. Olympics 2022: Let the Shenanigans begin.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@weihao524 2 жыл бұрын

There will be live audience in that rink. Beijing organizer will not publicly sell event tickets but will send “invitations” to certain communities that work for the state-own enterprises.

@JohnnyOpera1 2 жыл бұрын

I thought they changed this recently…am I wrong?

@weihao524 2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyOpera1 It was originally open to Chinese-only audience but now it's only random people invited, so it will be a much smaller group (definitely not full rink) and who may not be figure skating fans. :(

@topicdel 2 жыл бұрын

yay! Right in time for my drive to Vancouver ♥️🙏🤗

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@troyroepke6071 2 жыл бұрын

There is little to no excitement with these games for me - we know who’s winning in the womens and ice dance and amongst the men it’s either Hanyun or Chen and either S/H or M/G.

@Hithere-dl2cx 2 жыл бұрын

Ice dance still will be excited, but women and men will be boring.

@brendamosley1549 2 жыл бұрын

I like to hear these two talk .

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

NBC is showing how they feel about the US ladies chances, by airing them at 5am EST! 😳

@L.Spencer 2 жыл бұрын

Where's that Peacock Olympic preview, or what's it called? I'm looking on Peacock and KZfaq but can't find it. I missed years of skating so I haven't seen much of Sui and Han, so they don't stand out much to me. Anyway, it's going to be fun to watch.

@sofiac.2492 2 жыл бұрын

TSL is the best part of the week!

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

@gayled_it5012 2 жыл бұрын

Does someone have a link to the judging panel selections for the various figure skating events (technical panel as well)? Can't seem to find them

@queenredspecial 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan, what do you mean about Yuzu doing "reduced material?" Is Nathan's GOE comparable, less than, or greater than Hanyu's?

@wleb1 2 жыл бұрын

Light a candle for Lion King in team event!! ❤️🦁❤️🕯️

@nataliemarvos4623 2 жыл бұрын

I hope what you predicted is indeed the US team! Just to clarify, Alexa and Brandon have a Season’s Best 10 points higher than Cain and LeDuc. Senior Bs are ISU competitions but not included on their season’s best lists for some reason. K/F also have a much higher average and median score this season than C/L in both programs and also defeated them at Worlds. K/F have consistently had the best scores and likely the best scoring potential.

@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын

Actually Senior Bs do count for seasons bests and world records. It's only non-ISU competitions or invitationals like World Tean trophy that don't.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

We were looking at all scores. I’m sure Alexa appreciates strong Stan’s

@skatefan9495 2 жыл бұрын

I can only speak for myself, but I found the time change in Asia (forward by 12-14 hours) easier to handle than Europe (forward by 6-8 hours).

@etherealtb6021 2 жыл бұрын

It is going to be easier for me, on the US West Coast!

@ainecrimmins6120 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE THIS AND THAT!!

@matthewhines9787 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so excited to watch this. I had a question, though. I know if one of the girls from ROC get sidelined for whatever reason, the alternate(Liza) would be brought in. However, let's say Trusova aggravates her injury in the team event and can't skate in the individual ladies. If she drops out, can they bring in Liza for the individual?

@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын

Yes as long as she does if BEFORE the individual short program starts. The reason Kovtun couldn't replace Evgeni Plushenko in 2014 was because Plushenko pulled out during the SP warm up.

@matthewhines9787 2 жыл бұрын

@@benbailey159bb Which...I mean...what a tool Plushenko was.

@saraehtor7753 2 жыл бұрын

It’s really kind of you to think that Trusova will ever accept not to participate at the Olympics individual event. She performed at Skate America while her injury was fresh, there is no way she will ever give up on Olympics. Maybe if she breaks her leg to the point that she can’t walk on her own.. only then :D

@benbailey159bb 2 жыл бұрын

@@saraehtor7753 oh if she tests positive for Covid.

@saraehtor7753 2 жыл бұрын

@@benbailey159bb Do you wish for it to happen? 😨

@kimmietooshoes 2 жыл бұрын

The IAM teams are all going separately from the rest of the team so I’m not worried about Keegan, he had such drama getting to nationals, he’s probably better off going from Alaska or nearby Vancouver.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Hope everyone gets there safely and healthy~

@snezhanagorelova9008 2 жыл бұрын

but to participate in the team event he already should be there

@vivianrodriguez2286 2 жыл бұрын

Im ready for Danny G's deportation party

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

We are all waiting to see if he gets in!

@KL-pv7cl 2 жыл бұрын

Eteri will make it happen. She was able to get Diana to the Olympics, she can do anything.

@almourie 2 жыл бұрын

If Eteri wanted to max out medals she would have Anna and Sasha in the team event along with T/M. Imagine having 3 gold olympic medals in ladies, i dont think that would happen tho!

@hannibaljustincase9985 2 жыл бұрын

I think Eteri and Rusfed want that double Olympic champion they're chasing since Sochi. I think if 2018 Team Event went well(or at least Misha held it together), and Zagitova would've been double champion, considering splitting the medals even more wouldn't be so out of the question.

@glaznflip1501 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t count out 🇬🇪 aka 🇷🇺 team #2. Looking at the results of Europeans, they can be the big surprise.

@NormaLilia24 2 жыл бұрын

I rooting for Sasha 🚀

@LisaAllyssa 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know if Peacocks will stream Olympic events?

@Constantin9va 2 жыл бұрын

So grateful for the most important and relevant FS media that we have in the year of our lord 2022.💕🙏🏻📿

@ringdoorbell3223 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely the best part of the week, and the episodes I missed, I saved to email. Now how will I be able to watch it, with all the other things going on in my life (I have a 91 year old Aunt Yonia, living in an assisted living facility. She is my only living relative, 4 years ago, were able to watch it together. Sharon

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoy

@bekalynn1980 2 жыл бұрын

I would not use Jason for the Team Event. I think in the long with only five makes sense to just use Vincent. I think short far to many can defeat him. I read somewhere that the Russian girls are being kept very carefully. Own rooms.

@erinsheley 2 жыл бұрын

Ugh, I hope that the U.S. gives both dance teams slots on the team event. They both deserve Olympic medals, while frankly neither Mariah nor Karen does.

@Rochacha100 2 жыл бұрын

Ladies Short Program: who will land their triple axel? Because it comes down to this. Valieva, Wakaba, Kawabe, Shabatova, You, Liu, Trusova (am I missing anyone?) must land their 3A's. It is such a high risk jump, but miss it, you are not in the top group for the fs. Make it, you are.

@Blosmbubbs 2 жыл бұрын

Jason do the short, clean. Maybe Nathan do the free with modifications (less quads) 🤷🏽‍♀️

@iosebdzamukashvili5360 2 жыл бұрын

If Canada is a medal contender then team Georgia 🇬🇪 should be too. We have a much stronger team than Canada.

@Rachel-rs7jn 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah when I watched Europeans I was super surprised and impressed with the Georgian competitors. They are a dark horse.

@natalievangilder4688 2 жыл бұрын

I would just like to say, yes 100% the world is more tolerant of Eteri than Daniil. Eteri may be terrifying and debatably unethical, depending on your opinions, but at least the woman knows how to package and politic AF for her skaters. Dani is just as unethical but somehow more annoying lol

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

Annoying, smug, a manchild, etc. while does not have a talent to back it up. I think most of my negativity towards ET skaters could be traced back to him. I mean a lot of fans have been saying about what if (insert ET skater name here) has better choreo and program then the pcs would be more deserved (or something like that)

@SunflowerCat333 2 жыл бұрын

His “choreography” is so weak. There are so many amazing choreographers in Russia! But, the best women skaters ever in the world are stuck with him, even for their exhibitions!

@nenavujicin7882 2 жыл бұрын

@@SunflowerCat333 , don't agree, i enjoy watching some of his works like Olympics ''Karenina'' and ''Black Swan'' are, Alyona's ''Departure'' and even Anya's LP '' The Master and Margarita'', Alina's ''Cleopatra'' program was also good and Kamilla's ''Girl on the Ball'', inspired by Picasso's work, was great idea. Ok, 1000 ppl= 1000 different opinions, but ppl ( mostly outside of Russia) don't like him, maybe U ( they) don't like Russian's literature, but ''Karenina'' and Anya's ''Master and Margarita'' inspired me and my students to compare Evgenia's ( ''Karenina'') and Anya's ( ''The Master and Margarita'') dance on ice sequences with Tolstoy's and Bulgakov's novels sequences.

@sincantations 2 жыл бұрын

skate canada didn't gamble when they didnt put in weaver and poje in 2018 when they couldve had a medal but they put virtue/moir in for both. but i think that was more for v/m's benefit than anything

@lyragill3395 2 жыл бұрын

It was. Skate Canada knew that V/M needed the momentum, and it paid off.

@yohanes2034 2 жыл бұрын

From Meagan interview, she said that Skate Canada meant to put Weaver/ Poje if they know for sure that team canada would get the gold. They didn't gamble and put V/M, later they found out without V/M getting 1st in the FD they would still get the gold regardless, but they couldn't switch the team cause it's too late.

@stevrelove180 2 жыл бұрын

Love u two so very much still safe guy god be with u two tks for sharing tks

@gabriela2377 2 жыл бұрын

The last few episodes of on edge really got me worried about P/C. While S/K are getting the momentum from winning euros Marie-France is just letting her own skaters run a campaign against her only real contenders for the gold. Without the gp final to make a clear comparison between the french and the russians, Hubbell's attempts to drag down the French only serve to aid the Russians in politicking their way to a win

@lyragill3395 2 жыл бұрын

I noticed too that Gadbois has basically stopped politicking for P/C, and we all know that in this sport, you have to keep politicking.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@lyragill3395 I still think they can pull through, remember they took the entire 2020 season off and missed 2021 worlds then came back stronger than ever with their new programs. You can’t count them out. Plus, Nikita and his horrendous twizzles should not be even thinking of getting Olympic gold against the French. It’s sui and Han that I’m most worried about since m/g are being overscored to high heavens in an attempt to show they are a worthy challenge of the Chinese when really, they are the second best Russian pair in terms of skating. The only Russian pair who should be challengers of the Chinese are tarasova and morozov but they can never pull it together so….

@scook5599 2 жыл бұрын

@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Are you talking about ice dancing or pairs? Sui & Han are Pairs Skaters not Ice Dancers.

@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 жыл бұрын

@@scook5599 yes I know I was taking about ice dance then switched to talking about pairs

@thesupremediva 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU. It's a crime that MFD has let such a false, damaging narrative play out for that tacky series and hurt P/C's reputation. Never one word about their ACTUAL world titles or the fact that P/C are going for Gold. Geez, we had Scott Moir of all people paying them huge compliments. Meanwhile, Hubbel seems to think she deserves to beat them. ::Eyeroll::

@zynpllcnn 2 жыл бұрын

Japan Team Event Talk 35:50

@Constantin9va 2 жыл бұрын

Gina nova is legit amazing and that’s what I thought when I first saw her skate at Europeans and I had no clue where she was from. She just has that it factor.

@Essylte 2 жыл бұрын

The Russian ladies could very well sweep the podium, or they could go 1-2, with either Japan (Wakaba or Kaori) or even South Korea getting in 3rd (though, You Young's 3A is inconsistent). I agree with your lists, guys. Everyone is happy to see Yuzuru Hanyu going to Beijing; the question is, will he be cleared to compete? Will Nathan and the others? Too bad or Mikhail Kolyada. I wanted so much to see his White Crow program. Not sure if Kondratiuk or Mozalev will be able to medal individually, unless Hanyu/Chen/Zhou/Kagiyama make mistakes. I hope Sui/Han are able to win gold; Papadakis/Cizeron should be able to win gold, too, since they went up against S/K before and won. The only sure winner at Beijing 2022 is Valieva. If Trusova can land her quads and quit the 3A, she could get 2nd place, seriously. Scherbakova could fight her for silver, too.

@aishahosman2465 2 жыл бұрын

I would’ve loved to see Shoma in the TE, I think bw him and Yuma it wouldn’t really make a different placement wise and I would’ve loved to see Shoma get a medal along with Yuzuru and team JPN. I also get the feeling Yuma would do well I’m the individual anyway. But from reports it seems Shoma is staying in JPN for a few more days to heal his ankle injury and probs won’t make it :(

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

Shoma has better skills and can do the more difficult quads. Unlike most men including Yuma who only do the two easiest ones.

@cyrra8865 2 жыл бұрын

I think they'll put Anna in the team event. She's the reigning world champion, a 3x national champion, and has beaten Trusova every time in their senior career. I feel like everyone gets so caught up in what Trusova can possibly do instead of looking at what she actually has done. She hasn't won any major competitions as a senior, only bronze. She's a very nervous skater, she doesn't skate clean very often. If you had to pick who to give it to based on what they've achieved so far, Anna has earned that spot.

@funsies7147 2 жыл бұрын

Um...Sasha beat Anna at the most recent Russian Nationals which is arguably the most important competition of the season because the first two places are guaranteed the spots at Olympics. Furthermore...."if you had to pick who to give it to based on what they've achieved so far..", I would pick Sasha because she literally revolutionized the sport. World Champions, Olympic Champions, they all come and go. There will always be another Olympic and World champion. However, no one will every be able to do what Sasha did. First woman to land a quad since 2002. First woman to land a truly rotated 4S, 4T, 4Lz, 4F, first woman to land 2 quads in a program, first woman to land quad in combination, first woman to land 3 quads in program (then 4 and 5 at Japan Open and Test Skates), first woman to backload a quad in combination, first woman to land more than one quad at Worlds, etc. The list goes on......the contribution Sasha has made to the ladies figure skating sport is irreplaceable.... Not to mention the fact that as of now, in 2022, Sasha is still the only lady in the entire world and history to be competing with 4 quads and attempting more than 3 quad skates. I love Anna and she's actually my favorite but the way you phrased this comment is so undermining and diminishing of what Sasha did to this sport as a whole. Put Sasha or Anna in, it doesn't matter, because either girls will definitely beat the rest. It's really not about "strategy" when choosing between the two and I believe that the honor to be the first woman to land a quad at the Olympics should go to Sasha... Not only has she actually been more consistent than Anna this season, with her only failing Euros and US Classics, while Anna has either failed the short or free at ALL of her competitions this season, she did solidify her spot on the team with her second place finish at Russian Nationals, which is again, arguably the most important competition of the quad.

@vd5234 2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with you! No matter which girl they put on TE they still going to win gold so I think they will based on her trajectory and Anna has won a lot this years

@sabz1461 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, because Anna is overscored every single time? To be fair, they should just put Liza in the sp, Valieva in the fp. They have been reliable this season.

@Hithere-dl2cx 2 жыл бұрын

And Anna is skating clean this season? 😂😂 They should put Sasha and Liza for the team, but since Russian federation seems to hate the Empress, I hope they go with Sasha and Kamila.

@snezhanagorelova9008 2 жыл бұрын

What stands behind Meaghan's words about team Canada- does she mean that Canadian federation does not believe that their team has chance to qualify among top 5 teams or in best case to take the bronze? And this is one of the reason why Keegan is not in Beijing yet.

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

Question about Peacock do they have replays of the live events. Was thinking about signing up that way I only have to watch skating and less commercials. I could care less about the other events.

@TheSkatingLesson 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@aalegalfocus 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's definitely worth $5/month!

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

@@aalegalfocus I'm going to cancel it after the Olympics I don't need another streaming service.

@youarestronger 2 жыл бұрын

In 1994, Kurt lost to Elvis at nationals. That changed things. Would have been great if Viktor or Elvis one. Anyone but Urmanov.

@dkeinow 2 жыл бұрын

I had to listen to your prediction for the ladies event to hear the name after Wakaba. So your prediction is 1. Valieva 2. Scherbakova 3. Trusova 4.Kaori 5. Wakaba 6. Leona 7. Yelim 8. USA - which one? 9. 10. 11(?) Young You ??

@iamsoverybored878 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think any American woman is going to be top ten. I think the three skaters for Russians ,Japanese and Koreans are better then them Plus Poland and Belgium can beat them as well.

@biggestgymfan7230 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I could see Georgia beating Canada

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

Alla Viktorovna Shekhovtsova is my new DRAG NAME.

@celinevalencia9908 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Shcherbakova will get the greater amount of politicking to get into the team event. Her loyalty to Eteri must account to something, right? Right? *insert that Natalie Portman Star Wars meme* I do prefer Sasha to get the LP segment because her LP has that viral potential...but it only works when she hits everything and is not injured. Sooo I do get why Anna would get that LP segment. Anyway, I prefer B/K to get the LP segment over T/M. It's a pity that the latter is getting it because of politics.

@JoshuaFazeli 2 жыл бұрын

Who are the technical specialists in each event? I need to know.

@GG-md2fx 2 жыл бұрын

I have this sinking feeling that politics and underhanded judging will mean that only one out of Sui/Han and P/C will come away with the gold. But with Sui/Han having a home Olympics the favour for gold is theirs so it might mean ice dance is even shadier than usual. But then pairs is also last, which throws things out a bit. I hope I'm wrong but some of the names on that list of officials isn't really easing my doubts.

@deirdrekane6611 2 жыл бұрын

"Tell me please" never fails.

@QQ-wl6yt 2 жыл бұрын

Prediction: Jason (or Vincent) will bomb the team event and Ilia will post yet another crazy, awesome, never ever landed combo on the same day

@stsin7 2 жыл бұрын

I hope they replace one of them with Ilia to participate in the mens event.

@aalegalfocus 2 жыл бұрын

He's already posted a quad toe-quad loop. Unfortunately, they can't just sub in Ilia for the team event. I'm sure he'll wow everyone at Worlds.

@stsin7 2 жыл бұрын

@@aalegalfocus he can be in the mens event not the team event

@khorkina2010 2 жыл бұрын

The US deserve to finish third or fourth for its refusal to send Ilia. And I’m an American speaking.

@snezhanagorelova9008 2 жыл бұрын

Dont agree with the opinion that the team event should be after the induvial event. In this case the athletes who already received a medal in the individual event would not be so motivated. And from event in which participate top athletes from each country it will turn into secondary event.