It's Jaco. And his replacement in Weather Report said he was a " lick " player. I preferred Alphonso Johnson. My first pro band was with Bobby Herzog who wrote " Come on Come over ".

You’re obviously full of shit since you can’t even spell his name correctly.

@@andyokus5735 don't bother correcting people when you're wrong. Jocko is the original true spelling. Jaco is a mispelling that he ending up digging and started to roll with.

With Jaco,it was all about the span. His span was enormous. In other words his hands were huge! Cheers.

LOL, I think if you had actually played with him on 3 albums you'd know his name...

Hi Mark! What an honour. Thanks for commenting 🙂

@@HowToBass you should drop a link to Mark's in depth Teen Town tutorial in your description so its easier for people to instantly find it Either way, thanks to the two of you for your great videos!

For real.

I was also thinking more,more, more! And I play keys, not bass!!

You often chat with a ghost??

how tf do you see him play live

@@sebakyster 1980 GWU Smith Center 8th row, a MAF concert!!

and?

@@williamchampion4014 and what ?

Thanks Erik! I may revisit this one day.

UHHH... LOL!!!!

I learned the notes... but never mastered it. Jaco makes it look easy!

Great idea Richard!

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That's deep !! 🤔👍

Great question. Technically a dominant 13 chord contains R 3 5 b7 9 11 and 13 but rarely is it voiced like this. The 5th and 11th are often omitted. To call it a dominant 13 you need the R 3 b7 and 13 at the very least.

11 can trigger a sus sound, which can be not the vibe you are going for. If the 9 is in there you probably wouldn’t notice it cause it’s just there helping to stack the chord nicely.

@@happybeach777 I know they are options, I’m really just asking about nomenclature and what’s considered a chord tone or not. Like in a 7 chord you have 1/3/5/7 as chord tones and then 9/11/13 as non-chord tones. But apparently the highest extension listed in the chord implies all extensions below it as well, not just that one. So 13 implies 9 and 11 too.

@@DanielDurham121 technically Yes you are correct you include all extensions on Dom chords under the last extension. But most guys steer clear of the 11. Unless you need that sound

@@happybeach777 makes sense since the 4th clashes with the major 3rd a half step away if you aren’t careful with voicing and whatnot. Thanks

The way I understand it, technically a dominant 13 chord DOES contain the 11th. However, in practice it is typically omitted so you are kind of right.

completely depends how you voice the chord and its context in a progression. You'd never voice it as all the notes of the the ionian scale consecutively

You can have an 11 in a 13th chord, it’s just not very common

Ya I’d usually just play a root, 3rd, 7th, 13 to stay outta the legs of the soloist if they wanna do any particular alterations around that in their lines.

Hahahahahaahha what a waste of 40 years if you still don’t understand Jaco. I’ve been listening to him for 6 years and I’m already aware that he was one of the great musical minds of all time. And many legendary musicians say the same!

A fine line between genius and trolling. That’s a great quote.

@@RiveBassCovers Oh, I understand him. I just don't *like* him.

You sound like someone who never played a bass before.

@@PEACHPIG Funny, that's *exactly* what I said when I first heard Mr. Pastorius.

Thanks for checking it out!

Its a beast isn't it?

The most astonishing thing about this is that Jaco himself never passed up on a good groove. Complexities and technique set aside, he was actually one of the funkiest players of his or any other generation who played entirely danceable licks with the same fervor and elegance as Larry Graham, Bootsy Collins or Bernard Edwards. For proof, listen to his eponymous 1975 album, which even features a collaboration with Stax legends Sam & Dave.

Like listening to Yngwie play 3,000 notes a minute ontop of arpeggio after arpeggio... it's awe inspiring to see and an obvious amazing talent but it gets old quick.... thats why I tell people that players like that are insanely talented but give me Angus and Malcolm anyday or Gilmore or Slash etc... it's got to be sonically pleasing first and foremost... this is why the average lamen has to still be told who Jaco even was.

@@ThomBoecker For you maybe and that's cool, but for masses not so much.

@@charlesbr7684 You're comparing guitar players to a bass player. I think that doesn't really add up.

People who learned bass because of Jaco may have never picked one up otherwise, and musicians inspired by Jazz fusion probably won't feel as strongly about danceable music as those inspired by funk anyway.

He was a coke head.

I guess mental illness had nothing to do with his decline?

it is very sad...perhaps, some peoole are Extremly Sensitive, and often feel Quite Misunderstood. Once we feel estranged, its hard to come back 😐💙

@@silkyrobinson5079 perhaps? people should stay away their judgment and pseudo moral biased by their ego and duality to learn that the psychee and the body are far more that many people think and that good and bad are relatives judgment..ineed it can be see as "sad" from a mental point of view...I m an ex addict and strugglle now everyday with a poor health condition even thoyuh I ve not 40 yet, and I built nothing in this life...but I attended the most elitist university in my country, I was diagnosed 3 times by expert with tests, IQ tests etc, I m being far over the norm about IQ... I don't think Im a bad person, always gave myself, always felt for others, and doing stuff for those who have lesser than me, who's conditions are worst...Im a good musician too and good writter, poet, photographer, phiolosoph and mixed martial artist according to my entourage and others...but I went deep into the darkness of heroin, cocain, alchool, meth, clandestine drugs, cigarets, cannabis....automutilation, suicidal thoughts;..even after a spiritual and kundalini/consciousness awakening...I studied those questions for almost 3 decades now and I always have a bit of distance while doing them..the reason why I never got infected by diseseases like hiv or the reason why I still have one sport to tke my blood samples...so why? I never robbed anything, never got into legal issues..even thoug I never been totally mlegal in my life...But Im also very sensitive, to light, sounds, temperatures, moods, ambiances, I feel exactly what surround me, and all people says that Im "psychic" because I cant' be lied, I feel and say what people feel and think, and I always gess the future by intuition..I have absolutely no power and Im nobody...but why ?? why people use drugs, are addicts? because they are weak? they are bad, or evil? or because they see what's wrong , they are more consciouss, they understand more subtilities of the world?? and they can't bear it in a world totally artificailly made for poor mental developpment (according to very serious studies in sociology, psychology, neuroscience, physics, biology, cellular biology, methaphysics, quantum physics, theology , ethno-anthropology.....) most of the human kind is stuck at the level 5/9 of ego developpment...unfortunately this is an intermediate stage, atthis point the human kind can go in a good direction because of imbalance...but a minority, more and more, start to pass this stage..There is 9 stages in this developpment (individuation/realization) for all people who navigate between stage 5 and 7 life is jsust like hell...it's paradise when all human artificial contingencies, false beliefs and totalitarism and egoic inconsciousness are erased!! hope you ll lear, about presence and ego identification, so you may understand what being fully sensitive is! it's a blessing, but in disguise..and as the society don't care, and most of the rulers don't want it, this blessing always turn a curse because people like this can't stand the society standard and fake illegitimate demands

Im sure he did many substances but, he had a serious mental illness and he was self medicating. Not just another story of someone that dabbled at a party then got hooked.

Strictly speaking, a sus chord omits the 3rd - which would make the 11th revert to being the 4th. The whole chord would then be R 4 5 b7 9 13. But in the absence of the 3rd, the 11th and the 9th are both potentially heard as suspensions of the 3rd (4th and 2nd), depending on how the chord is voiced. It's perfectly possible to voice the full 7-pitch 13th chord as a chord (rather than an arpeggio) and have it sound good by being careful with the voicing - but probably not on bass ...

@@innocentoctave Yes, I think we’re on the same page, maybe I didn’t explain it too well, was saying a 13 harmony doesn’t contain the 11th, if 11th is needed it would be referred to as sus13. I’m not actually a bass player btw, though I get it with the name, but a Jazz pianist. Yes, I agree, with correct voicing the 13th chord can contain the 3rd and 11th and work okay.

Thanks! Here is the link... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qd6GfpSqm8WsqoU.html

@@HowToBass Awesome! Thanks for the fast reply. 👍🏼

Jaco is the grooviest bass player in history

While reggae makes your head bob it’s not as groovy

That's a completely different thing, why even compare

Jaco played reggae. Listen to his take of “I Shot the Sheriff”

@coversolutions is awesome!

Drop me an email. davemurraybass@gmail.com

I stand corrected, said the man in the orthopaedic shoes.

I can assure you younger bassists are still playing fretless, I got my fretless when I was 15

Thats C13#11 Check out this video. Let me know what you think... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9JoYJaj1N3GZWQ.html

You are mostly correct here but the dominant 13 chord can have a 9th and 11th. The 11th and 5th are almost always omitted as discussed in the video. A 13th with a sharp 11 would be called 13#11 so thats a different thing altogether. Check out the book 20th Century Harmony by Vincent Persichetti Pd 82-83. or if you don't have that to hand... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth#:~:text=A%20thirteenth%20chord%20is%20the,ninth%20and%2For%20the%20eleventh.‹‹ It looks like this wikipedia page is where your information came from but if you read the full page it states that technically, the 9th and 11th can be part of a 13 chord. I'll be discussing all this confusion over 13th chords in my latest video. Thanks for the comment!

Hahahaha

Funny you should say that. I've just been listening to the stems from Is This Love by Bob Marley and The Wailers. There is some super interesting stuff going on in the bass. I think that's gonna be the topic of a future video.

Jaco understood groove immensely, listen to come on come over. Or his stuff with Wayne Cochran. this is just an experiment

Thanks for the feedback! I'll try and add more in for the next video. Its sometimes tricky with the KZfaq copyright system but I'm sure I can find a way.

Thanks for the lengthy message. I enjoyed reading it. I agree with most of what you are saying apart from how you find the extentions. Unfortunately you're not quite right here. I've made a video addressing this.. Https://kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9JoYJaj1N3GZWQ.html I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

Ah no sorry friend but you are incorrect. The major 13 chord (almost always) has a sharp 11. But here we are talking about dominant 13 chords. I think you probably have the two mixed up. The dominant 13 has an 11 but, as stated in the video, the 11th is often omitted. The dominant 13 chord can have a sharp 11 but you would name it 13(#11) A great resource for understanding this stuff is a book called 20th Century Harmony. Or this Wikipedia page... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth Thank you for the comment, I never get bored of music theory discussion.