The kettle is now white, guess Morgan had to clean it so hard to get the coffee out that she scrubbed the black coating off it... and the base for some reason.

I use my PureOver every weekday (coffee just for myself), and a Chemex on the weekend (for me and my wife). Here's what I've discovered over the last 8 months of ownership: 1) Grind larger than you may think. For example, on my Baratza Encore, I grind for Chemex at setting 21 and for PureOver at 24. This leaves just a tiny layer of fines in my PureOver brew. 2) Boiling water. The larger grind + boiling water makes a very pleasant cup. Not as sweet and clean as the Chemex at say... 98-99C with finer grind, but still very tasty. 3) I still use a 1L to 60g ratio, so I'm putting about 330mL of water including the bloom. I don't use the handle as the measuring spot. With that process and a nice light or medium roast coffee, I'm enjoying delicious brews 5 days a week without generating waste. You're absolutely correct that it has the mouthfeel of a French press, but I think it has the flavor of a pour-over since it's percolating instead of immersing. Just last weekend, wife and I did a side by side tasting of the same beans through PureOver and Chemex. The Chemex was more clean and sweet while the PureOver was deeper and chewier. Some people might prefer one over the other, but both cups were delicious. Basically, I find it to be a fun way to enjoy coffee without making extra waste. It's a beautiful design-y object, to boot. I love my PureOver... especially being able to throw it in the dishwasher every night. =)

So many of these "filterless" brewers are trying to be environmentally friendly yet cause so much water waste while trying to clean them and still produce bad cups. An aeropress is all plastic but I've had mine the better part of a decade, and the filters are cheap and tiny and biodegradable. The V60 papers are thin, too, but I finally broke my glass V60 carafe.

I really like non paper filtered coffee, but a clever dripper with a metal cone filter makes it so much easier than a lot of these weird coffee brewers. But its so much fun to see the insanity.

Really feels like they were trying to fix what isn’t broke with this one, but I can’t deny it LOOKS really neat

I got one of these during their Kickstarter campaign. I have rarely gotten a brew that didn't stall. It is now sitting in the back of the cabinet. BTW during the campaign they claimed it would be a clean cup. So very unhappy with it. Oh, and a toothpick works best to remove the grains stuck in the holes.

I recently got and fell in love with a vietnamese phin brewer. Super simple, super cheap, no disposable parts, bloom, pour, and forget, yet somehow you don't get fines or dregs that go through even if it's just small holes in a metal cup with the same grind I use for aeropress. You should check it out if you can get your hands on one

around 6:30 ish You mention having to rush your conical brewers to the sink when finished; what I do with my Hario, is to have a ramakin ready (such as the ones GU desserts come in) which i can set the brewer on so it doesn't drip all over the counter or floor on the way to the sink.

I love your content and I fully support you getting sponsorships to help this channel. Please look more into pela as a company and specifically lomi as a product. I'm not trying to tell you how to run your business, I just believe you might not have a complete picture here. If you ask me that lomi thing is incredibly wasteful, overpriced, a borderline scam and honestly more marketing exercise than product. Thank you for your videos!

This reminds me of the Karlsbader Kanne, an older German ceramic coffee brewer. It's essentially the same, but with two layers of porcelain filter. Maybe I've missed it, but I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone make the comparison. It seems like someone got this design right 200 years ago.

Once you showed the grounds at the bottom of the stand, I was wondering how the heck you could get something other than mud

I like French Press coffee. Any grounds that turn up are really fine and usually sink to the bottom. I like Middle Eastern style as well where you literally drink some of the grounds with the coffee (thus the coffee has to be ground to almost flour fineness). For what this thing costs, I could buy a French Press, an AeroPress, and an Ibrik and hand grinder for the mentioned middle eastern coffee. The faults with this should have been caught in the design phase. I bet simply tucking an Aeropress filter into the lower filtering part would deal with things nicely, but then you could just use an Aeropress for a much faster and probably better cup of coffee.

Omg! It’s Morgan again! 😂 I’m not mad about the multi uploads this week 😊😊☕️

Watching these newer coffee brewer designs…I feel it’s like building a better mousetrap. The Classics still work ☕️

RE: running your pour over to the sink, I have a little tiny plate that I keep on my coffee nook & place my V60 on it when I'm done brewing. It came from an espresso cup set I got at a conference. Would recommend!

I bought just the pour over and not the cup. If you use a Hario Decanter with the ribbed glass (or knockoff) it easily catches the fines that made it through while pouring. Also if you watch their videos the timer on the scale is at 7 minutes. So I adjust grind for a 7 minute draw down. Similar to a nice French press time. I've gotten some good clean cups this way.

@MorganDrinksCoffee , I won't say Lomi is a scam. However, they sue people who speak bad of them, reviews show the product has a nasty habit of only lasting 2 to 3 months, and they like to sign people up for expensive subscriptions without their permission while also making it near impossible to unsubscribe. Oh, and the machine is just a slightly modified bread machine. There isn't anything fancy or special about it and yet it still breaks down at the drop of a hat.

Despite the 'advantage' of no filter, I wonder how it would do with the addition of something like an aeropress paper filter disk added to the bottom... 🤔

Hi Morgan, I use the local Indian filter coffee maker made of steel, super basic, but it could be an interesting one for you to review, if you can find it in US. Much love ❤

Well, I don't have one of these, but, I'd suggest doing what I do for my French Press and percolator. Get a tea strainer and transfer from the brew cup to another cup. That should prevent any grounds from getting into your cup, and give you a cleaner cup. As an earlier poster said (and as you suspect), it seems no two Pure Overs are the same. Not sure how these are manufactured, but if anywhere near by hand, you're going to have different drain hole sizes. Maybe the manufacturer can produce a mold with a much finer set of holes, and use a somewhat thicker pour of molten glass. Though, I suspect the hole sizes are affected more by the cooling stage than anything else.

Just seems like they couldn't make the holes in the bottom small enough because it's made of glass. The idea of all-glass construction is nice, but not if it doesn't brew properly

You could in theory recirculate the coffee through the bed a few times and it would eventually filter itself. This is what is typically done in beer brewing when separating the grain from the wort

My French press broke this week and without any other options I started brewing my coffee in a plain glass measuring pitcher, and then pouring carefully into my mug through a metal mesh kitchen strainer. The result of that method seems to be better than what this brewer is achieving, and my setup costs maybe $10 total.

I could quite literally listen to you talk and brew all day long You have such a gentle energy and are undoubtedly cute as a button

I think James Hoffmann reviewed some products that could actually achieve what this was trying to by using cones of porous ceramic where the pores are much smaller than any coffee grounds could get through. The problem with those products is that they're _really_ hard to clean by nature of being, you know, a porous ceramic coated with fine powder.

I usually am able to clean most of the grounds out of the filter holes by spraying water through the bottom, and pushing them back out, rather than running water through and trying to rinse them out that way. If all else fails, pressing a toothbrush or cleaning brush against the bottom so the bristles poke up through the holes usually pushes them back through really quickly. I wonder if a coffee sieve or something like the Shimmy coffee sleeve might help reduce the amount of fines that make their way into the cup? What I've sort of done is brew into a carafe rather than directly into a mug, and then pouring the coffee into the mug and avoiding the very end of the carafe where things have settled to the bottom.

PureOver owner here. I also ran into most of the issues that Morgan lists here. I ultimately ended up using paper AeroPress filters in the bottom (you have to trim them to fit). Its a lovely idea, but really it just doesn't work for anyone that doesn't like grounds in their coffee.

i think the grounds are inevitable, i think if you really hate the grounds, paper filter are the best option, but one pourover i really recommended are vietnam phin! i use it quite often because even some ground still coming out, its very minimum amount! brew time are pretty long like 10 minutes but its worth to wait imo

Okay so for some reason I was never know of this channels existence. As a coffee lover myself it such an awesome sight to see someone be so immersed in the history of coffee brewing. I’ve definitely subscribed & notification on can’t wait to see more content. Thank you KZfaq for recommending me someone so obsessed with coffee as I am.

It really seems like a plausible idea that was executed in a half-baked way. In theory, the best way I can see this brewer working is if someone can figure out how to get water onto the grounds with no turbulence or agitation whatsoever. Using the diffuser lid may help reduce that, but the water is still basically going to initially hit the grounds hard. Off the top of my head, the only way I can think of to do so without any added equipment is if you use the gooseneck spout to pour against the inner wall of the brewer, so that the water flows down the side. Sort of like how you'd try to pour a beer on a tilted glass to avoid too much foaming. You can also try rotating the brewer as you pour against the inner wall to get an even enough saturation. Even then, seems like a lot of hassle just to avoid needing a paper or metal filter.

I don't have this brewer. But I have a thought as someone who likes beer. With beer you drink from a tulip glass when your beer has in bottle sentiment. As the shape of the mug helps catch the sunken bits before they reach your mouth. I have one mug in a similar shape, and it's my go to when using my french press. I think addressing mug shape as a variable may help.

I haven't seen you try the Gabi master A. It's been my favorite every since I got it (shelving the Aeropress indefinitely). The main advantage of it being a very controlled and hands-off brewing technique with consistent results. It's tiny drip holes are very susceptible to clogging by limescale so you need to make sure to wipe and dry it after every use and drip some cleaner through it if the brew time slows down.

I tend to keep a spare matcha bowl/measuring bowl with me just to place my top cone/filter papers into instead of frantically running to the sink/trash can. But I completely understand where you are coming from

👍👍I don't know how useful my tip would be across different brewing equipment but I use an all silicone basting brush to dust dried grounds from the metal filter and threads of my moka pot

Never thought I’d watch a KZfaqr who specializes in coffee 😭 It’s super entertaining though!

Since you like different types of brewers, you might like a dripolator. They are no longer made, but available used. I use mine all the time and it makes very good coffee.

Honestly I feel that a piece of round-cut V60 filter paper in the bottom there would solve the issues, both with clogging, cleaning, and grounds in the cup. Of course this turns it into a strangely shaped V60 brewer. Also as an observation, every disadvantage you mentioned to using the gooseneck straight into the brewer, also applies to the diffusion lid, it does not reach into the sides of the cone either. The shape itself is the problem there, not the kettle vs the lid. Other than that it is an esthetically pleasing brewer, but it seems to be more fashion over function.

The only non-standard filter I’ve ever liked is using a Cory rod in a siphon pot. Cleaner than I can get with a French press and super easy for clean up.

First time hearing your voice ❤️

In fact... the add on mug is very nice. Have started using it more regularly.

When I make a French Press these days I tend to decant at about four mins and then let the decanted coffee sit for another 4-5 mins before pouring to let the fines settle (a ridged jug lik a Hario one helps here). It takes time but you get a much cleaner cup. I'd be interested in whether that approach works here.

You gave so many chances to that brewer. If it would be cheaper and made out of less nice materials you would chuck it down the bin after first brew attempt base on coffee making abilities alone.

Hey morgan, in chemistry they use a fritted glass filter, which is 100% glass and filters super well. Could you try making coffee with that?

My experience is that there are some granules that come into the cup, but by 1. not stirring (i found that in general this is the biggest cause of legit grounds in my cup), and 2. using a finer grind closer to the size of a filter cup of coffee, I get a solid cup out of mine. It sounds counter-intuitive but I think the grounds form a better filter bed when they are finer and clump more evenly. I still get some stalling sometimes but it's few and far between. I agree wholeheartedly that the cleanup is a pain, and it's one of the reasons I still trade off between the pure over and my v60.

Always happy to see a Morgan upload!! It’s been a treat with all these uploads!!

I love collecting alternative/experimental coffee brewers. May I suggest the Sowden Softbrew coffee brewer? The Pure Over seems to add unnecessary stress to the coffee making process, the Sowden Softbrew is quite pleasant.

If you have a brush for washing dishes, try stabbing the holes in the brewer with it! That's what I do to clean gunk out of my sive/strainer thing!

No, no, no guys. You got it all wrong. No wonder you are not enjoying it. This is like a Harley motorcycle, it’s for you to customize it. I asked my wife to create me a little cloth circle to use as a filter. She stacked some cheesecloth layers and made me a filter. It looks like a little Oreo cookie. In the very center I push a cloth pin through a hole in the glass. I smile every day with my “Harley” Coffee Brewer and zero grinds. This glass is worth it and something I don’t see mention here, this glass sings to you as you clean it ! love

I have a pure over, and I find it makes a cup that is comparable to a French press with a slightly brighter finish. I enjoy using it, but I do get issues with it stalling - easily resolved with some agitation. With a coarseish grind I don't have issues with large pieces in the mug. It's a fun brewer, but not one I use every day.

I just fell flat on my face trying to slide through my kitchen Morgan-style

Morgan's laugh is like medicine for my anxiety

Perhaps try pre-wetting while in the stand. Fill the stand with water, add the coffee to the brewer while in the stand filled with water, this will clump the coffee and then place the brewer on to the cup an pour.

I wonder if you could neatly fit an Aeropress filter into the bottom of it… Mostly just for the irony of the paperless brewer working better by adding paper, but honestly might be worth a shot.

This looks like a device I could use to make Japanese iced coffee. I saw that video the other day and the equipment pretty much lends itself to that technique.

Hi there, I do have a Pure Over, and don’t have the problems you have. I agree that the taste is akin to a French press, but I usually prefer the Pure Over because it provides a cleaner cup. My guess is that you grind way too fine. I usually grind the same as for a French press, or very slightly finer. There’s never more than a dozen little coffee bits falling through, and that’s also as much as one would find later in the cup. I even put the grinds that fall through back into the brewer, I’m actually a bit at a loss as to how you get all that coffee sludge in your cup. Clean up is not the quickest, I just spoon most of the grounds from the brewer into the compost, then flush it out. If a few bits get stuck I use a tooth pick. Still faster than cleaning a French press. Draw down time is about three minutes. It never stalls. No pre-infusion, or wetting the brewer, necessary. I do like a French press, but the Pure Over makes a cleaner cup. Just my experience.

i love how when she takes a sip, you can tell in her voice that she was grimacing a bit from the grinds in the coffee

Hi I'm new to the longer content! This was a really interesting video

an adventure in my mouth is never something I thought I would hear about drinking a cup of coffee... :D

Thank you Morgan for buying this brewew so I didn't have to.

When I first saw this I also wanted to love it. My question is how hot it the coffee after the 5 minutes it takes to make the coffee? I like my coffee HOT.

Did you try not blooming the coffee to see if that's the issue with the excessive grounds in the bottom of the cup? Also, did you try to add a small little paper filter to see if that helps with the brewing?

I feel like coffee was solved ages ago, and that companies are just throwing anything against the wall to see if it sticks, without trying to understand whether it is actually better than other methods. I see no problem with using a V60 with biodegradable paper filters, and there's no need to improve on that. If you want zero waste, then coffee isn't the drink for you as you're still throwing away grounds, but a french press or espresso would be better if that is your goal.

I’d suggest RS16 made by coffee consulate. It’s a glass perculation no filter needed dripper

Have you tried dumping the initial bloom coffee? I feel like a lot of the fines and initial much might drain through the filter in that bloom phase.

Yay new video!

I wonder if their manufacturing process is just inconsistent. I haven't really had the same issues with a dirty cup or grounds getting stuck in the hole during cleaning. I've found my brews with the pure over even cleaner than with my bodum French press

I'd love to see you try the Etkin dripper if you can get your hands on one!

that was so nice to watch while brewing with a v60.

I like the mug! Anyone else think the phrase “muck in the cup” would make a great coffee critic channel title?

Reminds me of the form-over-function tea infusers, where they look quite stylish, but always end up releasing half the tea leaves into your cup. Why?!

I've never understood this brewer but I've wanted to try it for a while - you covered a lot of the gripes I have with the brewer but at the same time, I don't really want to have to add extra bits to it to get it to work ya know

The three horseman of the coffee-pocalypse are Gritty, Chewy, and Mucky. And now I'm thinking about the Philly Flyers Mascot, Gritty, which is another thing I don't want involved in my coffee experience.

Fancy art-deco glass degree coffee filter Speaking off, have you tried a degree filter, Morgan? It requires very coarse ground coffee to prevent grounds in the cup too

Despite the aesthetics, Morgan's appreciation for this brewer seems to have ground to a halt...

Would a aero press paper filter fit between the brewer and the cup? Would love to see if fixes the fines and grounds problem

@MorganDrinksCoffee. I tried something recently,being out of milk, where I wanted steamed frothed milk in my coffee. I grabbed a can of sweetened condensed milk. And then followed the basic rules for reconstituting it to between cream and whole milk... but with a twist. I used coffee instead of water... I then steamed it like you would milk... Just wondering if you might do a video about alternative options and seeing how they steam.

What if you went the complete opposite direction and did a superfine turkish grind? It might clump into the holes, or it might fall through. However even the stuff that falls through isn't going to be as much as you get in turkish coffee, so it'll end up being a kind of turkish/pourover hybrid.

I feel like the only way to make it work is to add a secondary filter, because those holes are just way too big. Yet, the filters that would fit that depression that come to mind are all based on something with pressure (aeropress filters or the mesh screen filters). It's a pity, because it is pretty, but is definitely more form than function. Unless you like eating your coffee.

"An adventure in your mouth" is the most hilarious comment I've ever heard about a coffee maker 🤣

I love innovation as well as sculptural design, but - bottom line - the tool has to do its job well. #FormFollowsFunctionFail As always, your video was illuminating and entertaining! 🤓

My coffee knowledge is basically zero, but - with the acknowledgement that it would ruin the aesthetic of this cool brewer - could you put a flat-bottom paper filter in there to solve the grounds problem? Or does the shape make that not doable?

Maybe try pre wetting and then dump the coffee after the bloom. Then continue the process? Maybe?

What about using a filter between the brewer and the cup, would it be possible to use one without breaking, leaking or ending up inside the cup?

This in a slight way reminds me of a phin filter the way it works. They also get some grounds in the coffee as well.

Its really cool without plastic but it wont beat the hasslefree cleaning of my v60 setup and too much residues in the cup for my taste . And im a moka pot fan.

for the price you may as well get a french press for a very similar result it seems. although idk how good the experience is for using it

If someone else likes something like this, then I'm happy for them. For me, there's no way I would use it and it costs way too much for the results you get.

Maybe a better use would be for a very coarse overnight cold brew?

Thanks for sharing

Have you tried a paper filter at the bottom or does that decrease flow rate too much?

Thank you

Here's an idea, how does the pure over compare to brewing in just a cup and pouring after the grounds settle?

Will an aeropress filter fit in it ? Im curious how the results will be like if u add it

I wonder if it would work better if they had something akin to the reusable metal aeropress filter

Hi, would an aeropress filter fit in the bottom? I am almost tempted to buy one so I can try

i really wonder if an aeropress paper would fit in the filter den and solve something! but then again that feats the purpose of a paper filter-less brewer

The “filter” doesn’t seem to really work at all. You might as well brew the coffee in the mug itself. Or this seems like you need to place a paper filter between the brewer and the mug so it catches the grounds - which if they really want to go with paperless defeats the purpose. Definitely seems like a brewer made for the aesthetic and gimmick than for a quality product and coffee end result

Why do I feel like an Aeropress filter would fit on the bottom of the brewer? It'd defeat what I'm sure is the initial purpose, but it'd probably solve the mouthfeel issue at the very least...

wouldnt a second glass filter layer limit the amount of granules that go through ? interesting brewer

What if... You cut a paper filter and add it to the brewer? Yeah it kills the glass filter but, is it worth not to to it?