This Budget i3 Packs A Punch! (Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro)
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In today's video we dive into the newest in the Neptune family from Elegoo the Neptune 4 Pro. Compared to the previous generations of Neptune printers this one has some great upgrades like an all metal hotend, Klipper firmware, linear guides, and 4 4020 blower fans for layer cooling. Today we will go through this printers specs, what setup was like, how it has performed, and I will give you my overall thoughts based on my time with it so far.
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@TheFeralEngineer 10 ай бұрын
Few things... You should point out that the USB C port is a service port for serial SSH into the Linux side, not for controlling the printer. A linksys ac750 range extender is probably the best bet for Wi-Fi communication. Have you had chronic mcu shutdowns? The rk3328 is kinda notorious for that and it runs incredibly hot. There are also adxl pins on the board you can probably tap into.
@geauxracerx 10 ай бұрын
For WiFi connection one can always use a WiFi extender that has Ethernet Jack. For print farm use could go from extender to a switch and then to multiple printers.
@chrisalister2297 5 ай бұрын
I was going to suggest the same thing.
@Theblackdahlia1 5 күн бұрын
100%
@ziggystardog 10 ай бұрын
Rather than a USB WI-FI adapter, I’d recommend Ethernet to WI-FI adapters instead. I’ve been pleased with various brands for IT and video legacy interfaces.
@eaman11 10 ай бұрын
The board has a RJ45, I would recommend a Powerline Ethernet so you don't have to deal with WiFi tantrums anymore.
@ziggystardog 10 ай бұрын
@@eaman11 you’d need two, but yeah whatever. The point is USB to WI-FI dongles are rarely platform independent.
@rmc1013 10 ай бұрын
I've been incredibly confused why people are struggling so much looking for USB adapters when you just get an ethernet to wifi adapter and don't have to deal with drivers... I suppose the USB adapter may be cheaper, but I've been using an ethernet-wifi adapter with my camera DVR for years and it has been flawless.
@eaman11 10 ай бұрын
@@ziggystardog They do sell it in couples usually. Ethernet in standard, once you have plugged your hub with Powerline Ethernet you can have cabled ethernet everywhere in your house and it's stable.
@Viking8888 10 ай бұрын
Years ago I bought some TP-Link personal routers. Super small little devices that are setup like any other router/gateway but can also be set to be used as a wireless adapter. I had to use one on my bedroom TV when the built in Wi-Fi died. A device like this would be perfect for those that don't want to or can't run an ethernet cable to the printer. The added benefit is that you don't have something plugged into the USB port when you want to print from a thumb drive.
@avejst 10 ай бұрын
Great points. Interesting printer thou. Thanks for sharing your experience with All of us 👍😃
@chrisalister2297 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting the review!
@littlejp6090 10 ай бұрын
elegoo is the AMD of 3dprinting and i like it. i have the neptune 3 plus and its been great. may have to pick up a neptune 4
@MkmeOrg 8 ай бұрын
Great review Bud
@redkingrauri3769 10 ай бұрын
Elegoo for me is a company of good to great quality especially for the price, and their customer service is very good. I called them because I had thermal runaway and they just immediately sent me a new board that fixed the problem. My issue with them is that they sometimes release too many incremental versions of a generational printer. I got the neptune 3 shortly after it came out, then not a month later they announced the Pro 3 and I felt a little ripped off. Very least I hope they go and try to make a coreXY printer soon, especially if they could go larger format. A Neptune XL if you will.
@ahmadilyas5736 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty much. I bought Neptune 3 when I started my engineering and it has been just under a year and we already had neptune 3 pro line and now neptune 4.
@redkingrauri3769 10 ай бұрын
@@ahmadilyas5736 I have a bet going on a forum I'm on as to whether anycubic or elegoo will make a bambu or prusa xl clone first. We were gonna write off creality's K1 but turns out the K1 Max is pretty good. Go figure.
@Parodidical 2 ай бұрын
How did you predict the orange Storm giga
@williamcaldwell9431 10 ай бұрын
Great review! Thanks
@PrototypeMoxie 8 ай бұрын
Just connected to one of those Wi-Fi extender So you connect the extender to your home network then you connect the ethernet port to the printer and that way you can also add a network switch and have multiple
@Bot_Brad 10 ай бұрын
Great video Sir. I didn't know Elegoo did anything other than Resin.
@TheFeralEngineer 10 ай бұрын
I knew them mainly for Arduino knockoffs a few years ago
@blooth7074 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see you do a 3D printer tier list. I wanna hear them hot takes!
@n1k0n_ 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. I have a maxed out E3 running klipper but as it ages it's getting hard to maintain. I think this is the fresh start I need if I don't go corexy.
@andreamitchell4758 10 ай бұрын
the ender 3 v3 SE is currently 100 less looks really tempting, I am wondeirng if it will be the regular price or if it is pre order only though I want to jump but I have a feeling miceocenter will offer a first time customer coupon for $99
@sticky_ricebowl 10 ай бұрын
kinda curious if we can make something similar to that x axis fan. Ive been able to print fast on my bed slinger and now my bottleneck is cooling. I looked at some voron examples and some, like the v0.2, have extra cooling on the sides that does not move as the bed moves down so it only focuses on the fresh layers. Would be interested to see if this slowly becomes a mod people add.
@matthewdolman 10 ай бұрын
This is a really good review! One thing I don't understand is what is the point on 300°C on a printer that doesn't have an enclosure.
@YoSpiff 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Considering this as an upgrade from a Creality Ender 3 V2. Also looking at the Ender 3 V3 SE, so I need to see what this one has that is worth an extra $100.
@hydroturd 6 ай бұрын
If you happen to still have this printer, could you try an aftermarket nozzle? I'm surprised Elegoo still hasn't released one. Love the channel btw
@tchakizera4569 10 ай бұрын
I'd say that WiFi (or rather Network) is one of the main points of a Klipper printer. Also, I see a lot of comments about how WiFi doesn't work well in these Raspberry alternatives, mainly when using a third party USB adapter. I'd like to see these Skipr like boards including a good WiFi module with external antennas and a hardware button to disable the WiFi module if user wanted (maybe a jumper).
@ryucosplayz 9 ай бұрын
Can the print speed be set to be slower at 60-100mm/s or is the default only a minimum speed of 250mm/s?
@johnbeima6413 10 ай бұрын
By chance are you sharing the “tweaks” you have done to the print profiles? :)
@CPurdiePlays 9 ай бұрын
That's what I've been searching the comments section for.
@erynellbe 5 ай бұрын
Me too
@mab4110 10 ай бұрын
I got around the wifi issue with just adding a wifi extender near the printer with an ethernet port. Works perfectly.
@boom-rh2wv 10 ай бұрын
I have ordered the same printer and was wondering about this, too. Did you have to install some drivers or did the wifi to lan adapter just worked out of the box ?
@mab4110 10 ай бұрын
@@boom-rh2wv out of the box. Followed instruction on how to connect the wifi extender to my network and everything just worked. I bought TP link extender for $20 on Amazon and have Xfinity.
@MandicReally 10 ай бұрын
Yea, I’ve had quite a few people run into that Wi-Fi issue. Mine didn’t have that issue, but I’ve also had people find those Tenda adapters aren’t working for them too. So who the heck knows what’s up. They really need to add Wi-Fi onboard, but most companies running variations of that board are using dongles too.
@ModBotArmy 10 ай бұрын
I just experienced a similar issue with a completely different board and manufacturer. It ended up coming down to a file that was conflicting but without really knowing what you are looking for and Linux how would you know? I spent easily an hour or two trying different variations of instructions from different sources. With how many people run wireless with Klipper manufacturers should ship with a dongle and instructions on exactly how to set up. Leaving it up to the end user has proven to be a pretty poor experience.
@MandicReally 10 ай бұрын
@@ModBotArmy 10,000% agreed. Definitely the big miss on that machine.
@CuttinInIdaho 10 ай бұрын
That screen should be running klipper like the sovol. Also, they need to release the nozzles...brass 0.4 only is not enticing at all.
@Liberty4Ever 10 ай бұрын
I'm on the fence between buying the Neptune 4 Pro and waiting for a Neptune with a larger build plate (for printing multiple parts) and builtin WiFi. No wireless LAN was a misstep on a Klipper printer. I agree that an accelerometer and a routine to calibrate input shaping on each machine to fine tune it would be great. Maybe Elegoo could make an upgrade pack with the accelerometer (with firmware upgrade) as well as a plug-and-play WiFi dongle (Ethernet or USB).
@McKevittS 10 ай бұрын
I got my Neptune 4 Pro a week or so ago and I would buy an upgrade pack tonight if available. I love this thing. If it could be better, I'd do it
@Liberty4Ever 10 ай бұрын
@@McKevittS - I'm not sure I really need a larger build volume so I'm thinking seriously about buying the Neptune 4 Pro. I looked at the Sovol SV07 Plus for a few days and while it does have WiFi that the Neptune 4 lacks out of the box, I just couldn't get happy with the acetyl V wheels, even though I've printed a lot on my Sovol SV01 and never needed to adjust the acetyl wheels. I'm worried that the forces from the larger build area will put more stress on the acetyl V wheels, even if I print relatively slowly, and they may deform enough under dynamic load to slightly reduce print quality. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of the Neptune 4 Pro's steel-on-steel motion control components, not only for long term reliability but also for high print quality. While I'd almost certainly upgrade the Neptune 4 Pro to WiFi for all of the advantages of a LAN attached 3D printer, the full size USB port on the front will be a huge upgrade after a couple of years of fiddling with a micro SD card as I do with the SV01. That wouldn't be too bad for a 3D printer that repeatedly prints the same products, but I do a lot of prototyping and it's a major hassle.
@themechanic6151 9 ай бұрын
i hope u waited lol.
@Liberty4Ever 9 ай бұрын
@@themechanic6151 - I bought the Neptune 4 Pro and it's very nice although I'm still working through the new printer issues with slicer settings, etc. Added to that is a minor hassle of buying and installing a Linksys AC750 to get the wired LAN port on the Neptune 4 Pro onto my WiFi network. The Neptune 4 Plus and Max went on sale two days ago and they have built-in WiFi. I'm waiting for the Neptune 4 Pro Max (with steel rails for motion control).
@isthattrue1083 10 ай бұрын
1ST COMMENT. I have a Neptune 4. I'm impressed with it's price and print quality. Speed is good, too. I can start it without hassle or worry. Did you notice how much their Elegoo Cura looks like Ultimaker Cura? I don't get the print quality issues that you have. That can be a combination of belt tension, print temps, filament brand, filament moisture level, filament type, leveling, etc. I just printed a statue of David planter and it is perfect. No ringing at all. In fact, haven't got ringing (ghosting) on anything. I usually print at 250mm/s with a layer height of 0.18mm. Seems to be a magic layer height number. Print at 195°C with bed temp at 62°C. I've been able to print even at high-speed with those settings and not lose layer strength. I use Overture brand filament almost exclusively. PLA+ (professional) or Super PLA+ and PETG is what I typically print with. Super PLA+ is 5x stronger than PETG but prints crazy well and doesn't bone up the printer. I use Amolen for multicolor filaments and their silks. I would recommend for the price.
@omegadeepblue1407 10 ай бұрын
Super PLA+ is that good?
@ThePirateZombie 7 ай бұрын
Nice Video Dude! At 9:40 the printer does this "nozzle cleaning stripe" at the edge. I am a new neptune user and I noticed at the beginning sometimes he does the line on the edge and sometimes not. How is this feature called and how to set the parameters for it? Thanks a lot!
@esurfrider7687 10 ай бұрын
Could you make your Neptune 4 pro profiles available for download? I’m dialing in my own currently but I still have yet to optimize for speed, right now I’m just tweaking for best quality, but I’d love to be able to compare with the profile analyzer tool. Thanks!
@williammehling3135 9 ай бұрын
yes please do this
@bojac3055 10 ай бұрын
I just wonder what the max flow rate of this printers hotend is. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.
@user-lh8zm5xx1q 10 ай бұрын
Hello, what isnit for a cube at 11:01min? Where can i get the stl pls 🤔😎🙃
@Maleko48 9 ай бұрын
why is nobody talking about the Neptune 4 Plus? i think the extra $50 is worth the wait, but want to scope it out a bit more ahead of time.
@noahallen4145 9 ай бұрын
What would you recomend between this and sovol svo6?
@silverbullet6833 Ай бұрын
Ethernet into a wifi extender is how i do one of my klipper set ups that has no native wifi
@JSparrowist 10 ай бұрын
I have two heavily modded, klipper'ed neptune 2s' and I like them. Maybe one day I'll pick up a newer Elegoo offering.
@eaman11 10 ай бұрын
Can I ask what kind speeds and accelerations you are getting with the old models? I just got a 2s and I'm considering swapping to Klipper.
@gebebbebebebr 10 ай бұрын
@@eaman11 on mine that I have also klipperized my input shaping graphs max out at about 4000mm/s and i can run travel moves at around 400-500mm/s. when I go above that things started to misbehave
@eaman11 10 ай бұрын
@@gebebbebebebr Dam man that is a fast bed slinger, I'll get a CHT nozzle and some extra cooling and I'll try that too! Thanks and congratz!
@jeremygalloway1348 10 ай бұрын
At 0:43 did you say 'today we will go over the printers spanks'...???
@hughjazz5608 9 ай бұрын
I've read that the mainboard for this printer crashes a lot mid print, is it true?
@alex59292 10 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of the wheels but the metal ones on pro don't sound too bad
@omegadeepblue1407 10 ай бұрын
Super PLA+
@louisboliou7432 10 ай бұрын
I bought one--nice quick printer. However, why load the steel rails with dust & grime attracting grease? The steel rollers have bearings. They're supposed to roll on the rails, not slide on them. Maybe the grease is for the lead screws?
@mortegutt 10 ай бұрын
How about using dry-lube like on bike chains? PTFE-based lubricant thats made for off trail biking without attracting dust and particles sand-particles to the chain.
@franciscocv1995 6 ай бұрын
Just got a neptune 4 pro. Havent been able to use it since i can level it at all the z stop issue seems to have defeated me
@darenlim1584 10 ай бұрын
Are replacement nozzles readily available? I didn't see on their site.
@kilianlindlbauer8277 10 ай бұрын
They have been used by creality in the ender 7 and 5s1 for a while now. Also the ankermake m5c uses about the same size. Personally i dont like this size since its rather uncommon and i haven't found steel nozzles yet, only brass, nickel plated brass and copper
@danielkim6426 10 ай бұрын
Aliexpress selling hardened steel and stainless steel nozzles for neptune 4 printers.
@PWIZZLE7 6 ай бұрын
ive enjoyed my Neptune 4 pro so far. i had one issue with nozzle occasionally dragging over printed areas, any idea how to fix that? also i had some part warping issues and just ended up turning off the huge fan altogether at least during winter dry months...seems to help. I lowered extrusion to 95% seems to help with nozzle drag but still happens some....
@Feedbacker17 3 ай бұрын
turning combing off introduces stringing but helps with collision
@OmegaGamingNetwork 10 ай бұрын
I own a Neptune 2s and wifi is something Elegoo has struggled with for some time. However the printer isn't the actual problem, their version of Cura is. I struggled for months to get the 2s to play nice over wireless after installing the MKS module. It would work, but it was temper mental and would randomly print out absolute garbage. Then I ordered a Bambu Labs printer and while waiting on it, I decided to get familiar with Bambu studio. While I had to jump through all kinds of silly hurdles with cura, bambu slicer simply recognized the printer, set it up and ran it better by default than cura ever did. So the problem was never the printer and never the wifi chip, it was the slicer and how it communicated. It blows my mind that their own branch of slicer works worse than another manufacturers entirely. I'm still actively printing on the 2s and it's running better than it ever has and I'm getting some solid upgrades printed for it now. Which is good because at this point if Bambu pisses me off anymore, I'm going to refuse delivery of the damned thing when it arrives and just get a refund.
@ligaila2905 10 ай бұрын
what are the parameters of the retract?
@dddmmm21 9 ай бұрын
So, if connected to the house network with an ethernet cable, will I be able to send the gcode files directly to printer from my computer and bypass the pendrive?
@Billy318197 9 ай бұрын
yes you can connect to the printer through a web interface. just check your printer settings for the IP address
@quentinroa2573 10 ай бұрын
I got the Neptune 4 pro and have been trying to get a camera working on it. From what I've heard, cameras are not supported but klipper does most definitely support cameras. If anybody finds a way to get it to work, I would be grateful to hear about it.
@isthattrue1083 10 ай бұрын
I just run Octoprint with Klipper on RPI4.
@werlessonsilva Ай бұрын
I just got mine working using a way simpler method: SSH into the printer sudo systemctl enable webcamd sudo systemctl start webcamd Go onto the printers webinterface Go into settings and then Cameras Select the "Default" camera and activate it I'm running an Aukey PC-W3 Webcam and the quality is pretty good.
@NaldoCuritiba 5 ай бұрын
I have one, but I don't know how I can use the clipper. Seriusly I few that... I don't extract a 100 percent of it.
@SoaringExperience 8 ай бұрын
What I still wamt is the possibility to control via phone. See a video what is currently happening with the possibility to stop the print. EVEN when i am not in the same WiFi Network. So when I am grocery shpping (for example). This is important for bigger prints which are aking very long.
@medialuke2 7 ай бұрын
“Baby’s first klipper printer”? Did you yoink that from the MandicReally channels video or is that a common phrase I’ve never heard?
@rumingjiang9645 10 ай бұрын
is the auxiliary cooling fan controllable in GCode?
@Chirimorin 10 ай бұрын
It matches the part cooling fan speed (unless you turn it off with the switch of course).
@rumingjiang9645 10 ай бұрын
@@Chirimorin ah thanks that sounds really nice
@Teleport73 2 ай бұрын
Forget the WiFi. Just invest in a TP link power line adapter. Job done.
@Theblackdahlia1 5 күн бұрын
100%
@FuzzyScaredyCat 10 ай бұрын
I really don't care about wireless, in fact I'm pro ethernet here, I plugged mine into my network and it works.
@danjmc35 8 ай бұрын
I am getting the a1 mini or should I get this one
@anikatiemann 8 ай бұрын
I would chose the a1 mini. The neptune ist not very reliable, because it has a lot of software bugs and with the a1 you get the option to buy an ams
@DarkTrapStudio 10 ай бұрын
6:00 this machine have quiet mode fans
@danielkim6426 10 ай бұрын
Elegoo had to add Wi-Fi and accelerometer on this printer . Anycubic Kobra 2 pro has WI-FI and accelerometer for lower price .
@TheOscylO 9 ай бұрын
Neptune 4 Plus has both
@robinsonrobinsone6201 10 ай бұрын
Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro is great but I'm worried about what glue to use to make the models stick to the table. 😃😃
@tinkmaster1054 10 ай бұрын
Noise doesn't HAVE to be part of the cost of better cooling, printer manufacturers just need to start using quality fans like Noctua's. That said, a printer using quality fans likely isn't going to be hitting a $300 price point like this one. It would be great if they'd start designing things to allow fan upgrades with minimal effort, though.
@Microplastic_Therapy 10 ай бұрын
almost as loud as a Stihl bg50 lol
@rustyv6274 10 ай бұрын
I get why people want a cheaper version on a printer but they exist so I don’t get why a company like elego would waste tgeor time making this printer and not coming out with at least a larger printer
@Viking8888 10 ай бұрын
Was the video behind you? 😜🤪
@haenselundgretel654 10 ай бұрын
The Neptune 2 wasn't good. I had it and returned it after one year due to not printing reliably after printing not much over this one year.
@joearchuleta7538 10 ай бұрын
May I ask who did you buy it from that gave you refund after a year of use ? Thanks for sharing!!!
@haenselundgretel654 10 ай бұрын
@@joearchuleta7538 Amazon. They gave me a complete refund.
@winandd8649 10 ай бұрын
@0:29 My God! All those years, al those models and yet they (and many other brands) can't run a belt parallel to the axis.. This such a simple to fix design flaw.. 😖 @1:06 another example of this incompetence..
@error-hj4ik 10 ай бұрын
"Elegeoo" Elegoo fix title
@ModBotArmy 10 ай бұрын
No idea how that slipped through. Thank you.
@ThantiK 10 ай бұрын
I recently repaired one of these at my shop, and they cheaply replicated the Creality Sprite extruder for their print head. And I mean cheap as in low quality, not cheap as in cost effective.
@kilianlindlbauer8277 10 ай бұрын
At least they use bmg clone gears (neptune 3 pro had them) and not those stupid straight cut feed gears, so it can actually grip tpu
@omegadeepblue1407 10 ай бұрын
@@kilianlindlbauer8277creality sprite extruder can't print tpu? That sucks
@kilianlindlbauer8277 10 ай бұрын
@@omegadeepblue1407 it can, but only hard tpu like 90 and 95a. 85a and lower (car tires are like 70 to 75a i think) not so much, you can pretty much pull the filament put of the extruder, the generic, single brass gear extruders grip soft tpu better than a sprite extruder. Just watch makers muse tpu videos, in one of the later ones he features the elegoo neptune 3 pro which is rather good at printing soft tpu , while some printer with the sprite really struggles with the same filament
@omegadeepblue1407 10 ай бұрын
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 thanks
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