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Mechanical empires unite (not too much though my energy income is dying) 🤝

Or just be smarter machines, go Rogue Servitor! Unity up to your optical sensors!

I think the way it works is that the trade value from pops is multiplicative with empire trade value; this means the +25% you get from cyborg trade value effectively multiplies by your empire trade value bonuses, making it more like +50% after all multipliers.

Also remember you can add bio pop traits as well and the 2 bonuses you get for production from being cyborgs.

It's still totaly worth it to pay for even multiple cyborgs points considering the fact that even for species with a lot of cyborgs traits the numerous reduction on pop upkeep you get from cyborg tree, cyborg trait on personalities + the natural bonuses on pop upkeep you get per level for each governors. It make those energy upkeep merely irrevelant and way better than psionic on a trade value perspective considering the amount of trade value you get from the trading algorithm. Considering the comparison with psionic i believe the calculation make the individual bonuses for each pop producing TV is more important than the bonuses empire wide and planet ones like the other comments said.

@@robertblume2951 the job ressources production bonuses doesn't apply to TV, that's the reason why you won't lose TV for employing clerks or merchant on a 0% habitability planet despite the 50% job output malus.

It's just .27 energy per pop (or much less depending on agendas and governors). For 1 point, and a trifling bit of energy, the trade value trait is still be best thing around for a trade based empire. Plus if you really hate it that much, remove it from any planet that isn't trade focused, no big deal.

I don't think your last statement regarding Shared Burdens is correct. The worker count being greater than 10x rulers + 5x specialists is without taking the 2x unity multiplier into account. So you would "only" need 5 worker pops per ruler and 2,5 per specialist.

It's really unfortunate that the "most" egalitarian living standard, utopian abundance, really makes the egalitarian faction unity gain theme fall flat on its face due to how little political power *all* pops have.

​@@Lukashoffmann94 That's also wrong since it ignores the fact that academic privilege workers still have political power, you need 8 workers for every ruler since 1*10+8*1 = 1*2+8*2 so 9 pops would provide 18 political power under either system and an additional 3 workers for every specialist as 3 workers + 1 specialist provide 8 political power under either system using those ratios. Realistically though those are never ratios that you want to achieve as specialists are king in this game which make academic privilege so good.

the moment i say that i see him say that in the video. damn.

But the shared Burden living standard tanks unity because of the political power debuff doesn't it

This is unfortunatly a trap. This is because the unity each pop generate through faction is multiplied by their political power. The shared burden living standard does not increase political power of any strata. Compare to academic privilege who gives specialist 5 times the base political power and ruler 10 times, and the fact you want in practice spam as much metallurgists and scientists jobs as possible who are specialists, and you can see how you can massively outproduce unity compared to shared burdens. Nah the real parelemntary system build have a splash of materialist for academic privilege

Note : after the new patch it is no longer a trap. Utopian abundance provide 400% political power to every class. Shared burdens 300% but is much less costly in terms of consumer goods

i comment on your comment to double the boost

Most of the Meta is based on MP where a rush to an effective fleet in 2230 with enforced peace beforehand skews the game. SP strategies that set you up for 2275 onwards even using a handicapping origin are just too long term. Lots of the discussion around Stellaris is black/white without mentioning the settings, yet a long Huge galaxy game is very different to the compact ones used for MP. An example of good SP strategy is building bots to use as specialist workers, the pay off comes too late for MP rushes, where they'll avoid the exo-skeletons as it opens up the wrong parts of the tech tree.

@@RobBCactive Nah dude, I'm always talking about competitive 2230 strategies. And Parliamentary System is effective in that context, because it frees up plenty of specialist jobs. People think the CG bonus from Masterful Crafters is good, well Parliamentary System lets you save way more CGs by not having to pay for unity generation. And if you do choose to build even just culture centers, you'll be getting at least one extra tradition tree done by 2230. Also, what you say about robots also isn't true. Getting robots early can be extremely beneficial, because you'll have quite a few extra pops working from years 20-30 when you're trying to max resource output to construct your fleet.

@@somedudeok1451 Only if you can get the bots early enough but they consume alloys in manufacture. Recent versions have become imbalanced, but it wasn't the case in fairly recent versions. It takes quite a while to turn out bots and you're fore-going the opportunity to bee line to to tech you want as powered exo-skeletons opens up a lot of possibilities. I don't see why you're saying nah, because effectively your reply is a demo of needing to know specifics. In the past parliamentary helped with other things longer term, but just had a significant unity boost for fulfilling mandates early on in the game. Factions earned influence and you needed unity workers if you wanted rapid completion of traditions. Parliamentary has been made more viable in MP meta, but my own favourite unity strategy was slowed behind the traditions and other stipulations in the recent game. Who knows what will work in future versions as the game strategy is NOT stable.

@@RobBCactive Meta doesn't have to be stable to have Parliamentary System work in it currently. The rest of what you said doesn't really contradict my points. Robot workers remain valuable despite making bee lining more difficult (metallurgy techs are just there to make more alloys out of less workers, but you just have more workers it's pretty much the same) and Parliamentary System does the stuff I said it does in MP, so it's not a single player strat.

@@somedudeok1451 I never was contradicting your point, that was getting the wrong end of the stick. The instability makes discussing Stellaris without specifying a whole load of conditions pointless .. so I give up on this.

Montu? This isn't the lizard mans channel. This is lathrix.

@@Santisima_Trinidad Crap... Epic fail on my side than...

Eh. This build could have ignored trade completely, he didn't really do anything with that part. At least not until he was already massively dominant. It was effectively just a factions and tech rush build.

Oh, and once you get a federation and have subjects, ensure subjects can join in the federation's laws and kick out all the other members (you can fold them back in as subjects later). You can have a federation with 1 member and many subjects. Ensure your subject's contracts all have restricted voting so they are forced to vote with you. Now the federation functions as a hegemony federation for control while giving the benefits of its actual federation type. They can't declare wars as non-members, vote with you on every decision, and the whole federation comes to the defense of any outside aggression (often preventing declaration on such a large war party). Now flip your contracts to maximum opinion. Subjects don't join overlord wars (0 penalty) and overlord joins all subjects wars (+15). Once they like you, trade with all to swear fealty to get more loyalty. Personally, I'll actually set taxes to 0 if possible so that I can play around with ongoing resource trades using loyalty. Trading monthly consumer goods for any resources is still pretty strong with AI. With massive opinion, even a -200 trade can often be brought back to +100 opinion multiple times during a 30 year swear fealty agreement. Loyalty trades at a point-for-point on trade opinion. Yeah, RP-wise, it's not very "egalitarian", but it sure is powerful.