Me too

if y where in your place y would run away in your place, bad firmware. bad drivers, most of the time if you use the pc in domain, it won't turn off only if you force the power button. display driver crashing etc personally y won't get other than Asus or hp.

Just like our sponser Dbrand.

@@adriancoanda9227tf did you say?

@@tahmidrahman5367 sponser

100% The fan noise and cpu vrm temps are out of control year after year on this model. They need to vapor chamber the damn thing already

feels lazy. make fun of the silly apple notch, but not mention something like this? come on...

@@brohanson and funnily makes mention of the notch with a side by side which clearly shows the apple display as taller than the dell's: apple increased the height of the display so you have a 16:10 below the notch, so it's not like you're actually losing any screen real estate. Essentially it's a free menu bar (which apple's own fullscreen takes in account). Not that apple's laptop cameras are not unacceptable garbage, but the fury over the notch won't ever not be nonsensical.

they mentioned it for like a second around 3:40 they mention you have the option for an I9 but the laptop doesn't have the thermals to support it

Better dont mention that noisy fan or else Dell will not ask them to review it next time (and get $$$)

Yep definitely good advice and that explains why the gaming benchmarks are poor and lower than my MSI laptop that has a 130W 3070... More people need to check the maximum TDP of the card when buying gaming capable laptops that have an RTX card to avoid being disappointed

​@@nooneinpartI think it does make a difference vs the 4060, but at such low tdp it isn't worth the money

@@nooneinpart It does run worse. I watched a different review of the laptop and the 4070 performed even worse than some 3060 laptops. It's a complete waste of money if you're planning on gaming on the side with it.

​​@@nooneinpartit's a relative issue. The 4070 should draw 200w, whereas the 4060 should draw 115w. So if you're only giving them say 40w, that's 35% of the 4060 but only 20% of the 4070. So you wind up in a situation where, because of the thermal limitations of a laptop, the 4060 can and will outperform the 4070 because you are getting more of the available performance

40 series cards perform surprisingly well at lower power

Yup, Dell laptops are pretty Expensive for the Specs they Offer.

Not to mention that the macbooks now probably smoke the Dell on both performance and battery life.

@@ArthropodSpidey They will smash it on battery life but be nowhere close performance-wise. Identical spec premium Windows laptops from Lenovo and Asus with a 4060 can be had for only 1500-1600 ish a whole 700 less.

@@Ec1ipse.. nowhere close? What absolute nonsense. Have you even used a M1 or M2 powered Mac? The M2 Ultra is a monster and doesn't require 250W to run like Intels chips do. They also run at the same wattage and speed when they're not plugged in. You have zero idea what you're talking about.

​@@ArthropodSpideyAnd even the XPS 15 has a worse port selection than a MacBook Pro. Who would have thought!?

The world of thunderbolt awaits you.

@@FlyingGuy123 we should still be living in the world of put the fucking IO on the laptop

I have like 7 wires sticking out of my laptop. It looks like it's on life support. I wish I had thunderbolt.

@@FlyingGuy123 The best life is to have 2 Thunderbolts (one on each side) AND the rest of the normal IO. When you use it at home, just use your dock, but when i'm, for example on the train, i'm not going to pull out a dongle for my usb a headset

@@alexanderbr8525 fantastic example. Made me think

Also in this camp. It kept going so I ended up putting 32GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD and a new battery in it over the last year. The thermals are definitely bad under heavy loads. Surprisingly the throttling wasn't caused by the CPU/GPU but the VRMs overheating. A thermal image was shared around back in the day which identified the problem areas. If you connected the VRMs with thermal pads to the bottom aluminium case and pointed a fan pad at it the throttling stopped. After doing it I could actually play BF4 for longer than 20-30 minutes which is when they would get heat saturated.

Would definitely buy another. The warranty was great and it's easy to find parts and work on it yourself.

My 9570 exploded in a hot summer xD 1 year after warranty over so I’m done with them.

I've used a Dell Precision 5520, after more than 5 years of usage, to a Precision 5570 - not because of lack of power or functionality, but because the battery was beyond gone. These devices are brilliant and are even better than XPS. That being said, while the warranty service is great, a 1 year base warranty isn't so much. When we got my wife an XPS 9570, we paid extra for the 3 years extended warranty.

my XPS 9550 is still running strong too! The only "repair" I've had to do is replace the battery a few years back but besides that, it's been doing great. When this finally kicks the can, I'll definitely be going for another XPS!

Non issue

@@8020Alive it’s absolutely an issue. The fact that I NEED TO boot into an unoptimized Linux distro on a laptop to get better sleep drain than Windows while traveling is a MASSIVE oversight. I got so fed up with losing 15%+ battery daily in sleep I went and bought an M2 MacBook. No regrets. I shouldn’t have to dualboot PopOS just so my laptop doesn’t murder itself connecting to rogue Wi-Fi APs while I travel from worksite to worksite for work. If you actually care about using your laptop’s battery windows is ABSOLUTELY a non-starter in 2023.

I'm frankly astonished that Microsoft hasn't quietly gone back to offering hibernation by default. It has all the upsides of "modern sleep" without these ridiculous problems...

@@PhysicsGamerit’s even stupider when you consider how fast modern NVME drives are now. (Sleep stores in RAM, hibernation stores in storage.) MS’s trend of trying to make laptops more like phones is incredibly asinine. I do not need background updates while my laptop is off Microsoft please politely get the F out of my space and stop using my computer for me.

@@firstwolfplus You can easily enable Hibernate though and Hibernate isn't that slow off of an SSD.

PLEASE, throw in a G14 while you're at it

You’re very confused about what the phrase “must-do” means

yeah, and void your warranty! A must do indeed

ah yes, just instantly void any warranty you have

@@Hentjim this wont void your warranty in most parts of the world i imagine (certainly wont in EU), and it shouldn't void it in NA either but i know NA has some horrendous warranty laws so it wouldn't surprise me.

Right the first thing that I should do after purchasing a high-end expensive laptop is to void the warranty.

I assume Dell dropped the barrel for thinness as well. I know they have a micro-barrel but still.

The Dell USB-C charger is 130W out of the box and supports up to 180W (you can buy that charger separately), so there's no lack of power - it is not limited to the standard PD 100W, like other laptops are.

How many issues have you had with them? I always hear QC problems

@@fran2911 This current one (XPS 15 9500) hasn’t had any issues of note and has actually been pretty great, but the previous iteration of the XPS 15 from over 3 years ago (9550) had all sorts of issues. A hinge that broke after a couple years (current one has a much better designed hinge), there was BIOS issues that caused a flickering screen that only got fixed by downgrading the BIOS, touchpad issues, and more. The one before that from 8 years ago (XPS 14 L421X) had some issues too, so they’ve gotten better with each iteration fixing the major pain points

@@BlindMango thanks for the detailed reply!

​@@fran2911where's the reply?

@@wilsonbotlero2363lol

The main problem with the notch is just that it doesn't support FaceID

I remembered Linus said something along the line, where they (the reviwerer) kept asking for thinner bezel with webcam and facial recognition but at the same time complaint about the poor webcam performance. This is what they wished for when asking for thinner bezel accordingly to manufacture. At the same time, LTT usually are more forgiving with Windows laptop than Macbook anyway

I kind of like how it looks.

It you spend 100% of your time on desktop, sure.

​@@breaddough-vk8gf thinner bezel results in worse webcam performance which they complaint as well..

How’s the battery life and does the laptop heat up quickly?

@@w_21 I usually use mine plugged in, and I've also set the setting in the BIOS for that so that it tries not to kill the battery from always being plugged in. But Alex is right, the battery life isn't amazing. If I had to be on the go, away from an outlet all day, that would be an issue, but it's not a problem for my usage.

@@RobBulmahn what about the heating problem?

@@jemsjayswal7458 I've never noticed a heating problem, but I usually don't push my laptop super hard (got my desktop for heavy workloads/games).

Same here, overall happy with my 2022 XPS 15. Don't use the headphone jack though, as it doesn't disable the audio changes (DSP) done for the speakers and makes it sound horrible. If it doesn't, let me know as that means I'm using the warranty to have a tech come out and check my laptop out. Drivers and windows reinstalls haven't fixed it for me and it makes the headphone jack completely unusable imo. Oh, and I'm not the only person with this issue.

All what a Touchscreen on a Laptop gets you are ugly fingerprints on the screen. I just never got the point of this on a Laptop. There's just no benefit to it except for the "uhh look what I can do. Does this make you Mac users feel jealous, yeah?" - no it doesn't.

@@Raja995mh33 Touchscreen is useful on thin and light 13"-14" laptops but 15" or bigger I don't see why you would need a touchscreen especially if the trackpad is big enough like on the MacBooks (the one benefit to getting a touchscreen on a Windows laptop is that they are glossy)

​@@Raja995mh33depends, I use mine on my old xps 2in1 all the time. Though 2 in 1s are a different category really.

​@@Raja995mh33 Navigation, scrolling, zooming, moving things around... there's many things. Sure everything can obviously be done with a touchpad, but if you learn to use the touchscreen effectively, it can be great addition to normal touchpad.

@@chandler2 the 1300's battery is long gone, it flat shorted and probably would've cought fire if I hadn't been there. The 1501 and both 6400's don't think they have batteries (guessing the control IC chips died in them)

Hp already does hp 845 g10 with that cpu

@@breaddough-vk8gf they aren't great, but neither are most tech companies

@@breaddough-vk8gf all purchases require weighing pros and cons. I don't agree with apple's policies, but many major computer brands (dell, HP, Lenovo) have been moving toward the same model. Very few budget- mid range computers allow you to upgrade in any way that is significant. I'm not going to buy a plastic chassis gaming computer with a 12lb weight for a daily driver. I also don't need more than 16gb in a laptop, personally (I have a 128Gb desktop workstation and at my job I have access to a supercomputer) MacOS is fine. I'm not buying a laptop to game. I'm buying it for programming and productivity. It's not as good as Linux, although it doesn't have hardware compatibility issues like linux, but imo it is better than Windows. Battery life is impeccable and the screen is amazing. I like the keyboard and have gotten used to the functionality of the shortcuts such that it doesn't bother me anymore (other than a dedicated delete key) You have to weigh everything when you make a purchase. There wasn't a better option for me, and I personally don't think many people would feel differently. Apple is a sleezy company, but so are the other major manufacturers. Lenovo was my preferred brand previously, but their quality doesn't hold up unless you go for the highest end. If you aren't in the highest end there can be hardware compatibility issues with Linux. I need unix for my work. I wasn't going to bother wasting time trying to make Linux compatible and I've not had a single issue with compatibility on MacOS (for my use case)

Agreed, doesnt have to be gaming all the time

This would be great! I don't plan on gaming at all on the xps lol

I havent seen an LTT Video in 2 years. Man they got bad. Just comparing to the whatever macbook this is and not even becnhmarks, just games. Thermals werent referred to. Its seems like somebody ordered it, they got a macbook and made a oneroll. What the heck. They comletely miss the sense of discovery.

Dell doesn’t really do AMD cpus. They have contracts with Intel and nvidia.

It would be nice if all laptops came with options to swap between performance vs battery hardware options, for people who use theirs plugged in vs those who use theirs out

Same here

You put your trust on a wrong guy

@@jcfawerd haha maybe I just wanted to, family discount so I was locked into Dell

Lol

My wallet does not go brrr :(

​@@mattgriffin0231if your wallet does not go brr for a framework laptop then it might probably not go brr for a regular laptop with same specs.

If you're cool waiting 3-6 months for it 😅

Until you wait almost a year for the release and then find out they're not supporting Nvidia video cards...

Headphone jack, audio drivers, modern sleep and DWM are just a circle jerk of weird behavior lol they try so hard to make the experience better with driver handling and all their software to the point i think it makes the experience worse.... i have waaaaaaaay less issues with the last 3 PCs i have built lol

Dell quality control is horrible please do not buy Dell, extremely disrespectful company to knowingly deliver so many lemons.

Sounds like a hatchet job of a review. Almost all components failing is not very realistic

I have this issue with my XPS15 9550 for 6 years and I thought of giving the XPS 17 9730 with 4070 a try, it blue screened within the month of me not updating anything and it just had a motherboard change last week because of a BIOS flash fail…..

@@breaddough-vk8gf Not sure how having to decide between outdated official Dell Nvida drivers that crashed games when trying to play new-for-the-time games or New Nvidia-direct drivers to attempt to play games on release, which caused the XPS to BSOD during regular usage my fault, but go off king. Also, not sure how getting a BIOS error 3 years after purchase for not having something that was never included with my XPS my fault as well, but sure, blame me and not Dell. Shame on me for expecting a $2K PC from a multi-billion dollar company to work with minimal hassle! :P

The gpu for the 2022 version was a 3050 I think he said?

Should it really help all that much? I mean ideally you’re not using the dGPU at all unless under load, at which point it’s a question of if it can get the work done faster than the battery life hit of the better part.

Same but blade 16. 1000 nits miniLED trumped ~400-500 nits OLED. Also wanted a USB a port for my mouse.

@@breaddough-vk8gf Most of the upvoted comments here are about how poor the thermals are on this lol. I didn't buy it specifically for "Gaming", I was casually gaming on it a few hours on the weekend. I also wasn't playing modern AAA stuff on it. I was playing casual older titles 10+ years old that would easily run on that hardware. Dell had very strict throttle limits on my XPS where it would downclock the CPU when it was even in the 80s if the GPU was pushed at the same time. The ASUS G14 is smaller, lighter, and can actually sustain its performance because it's cooled better with more heat sinks and much louder fans. The Lenovo Slim isn't much heavier than an XPS and can also sustain its performance with decent temps. Dell prioritizes aesthetics/quietness over maximum performance. That's fine for people like you and your workflow, but it doesn't change the fact that it can't sustain its performance over a lengthy period of time and it struggles to cool the hardware inside it when pushed hard. I'm glad your happy with yours and maybe thermals have improved compared to my older model, but it doesn't change the fact that plenty of others have a differing opinion than yours on the XPS line thermals just by reading these comments..

Fact is there are laptops around the size of an XPS now that can perform much better when the CPU/GPU are being pushed to the maximum. The Asus G14 is smaller than the XPS, under 4 lbs, and can sustain its performance under load. Even Razer has had laptops the same size/form factor as the XPS that have better performance/thermals. I get why people love the XPS. Its build quality is top notch, good keyboard, great screen, small, compact, etc. That doesn't change the fact that the thermals are garbage on it and it struggles to sustain performance when pushed hard. Some people like you don't care about that, but plenty of others like me and others in this thread do care though.

@@breaddough-vk8gf All caps? Just chill man. I get your team XPS in every way and that's fine. It's ok if people have differing opinions about things but I'm also not going to keep arguing about it lol. Plenty on this comment section have stated pretty much the same thing I have said about the thermals. Either way, I hope you enjoy your XPS and glad it works for you.

@@breaddough-vk8gf Uh why are you even still replying to me? I said go enjoy your XPS and be happy with it and I'm not debating this anymore. Is it really worth having any form of resentment towards a stranger online who has a differing opinion of a laptop than you? You think the XPS performs well and doesn't throttle under your workflow. I think it throttles easily and is a poor choice for many people that need a laptop with a high end CPU/dedicated GPU for demanding tasks. Differing opinions that aren't going to change. The end.

I have a 3rd party dock detected as 90W, so it is better thank my old 2019 XPS 15, every 3rd party charger has been detected as 65W. Everything over 100W are non standard USB-C wattages, only dell ones will be accepted over 100W

I use a £550 Lenovo I5 with Iris Xe on a 65inch LGC1 4K and have NEVER had any issues playing 4k Netflix or the desk top? How did you have problems with 4K mate?

@@tobynorris5074 For example split screening a 4K youtube video and some other website caused so much load that I couldn’t smoothly scroll anything or move windows around without stutter. This is the 3rd Iris Xe Laptop I’ve experienced this with so I’ve gone with an amd this time

The main issue with the MacBook is it is so expensive. Add on to the base cost you also have to buy adapters for SD cards and am ethernet cable

@@williamshakespeare9815 It's not necessarily more expensive for what you're getting. That and many people don't need Ethernet or SD card readers, especially in an era with Wi-Fi-equipped cameras.

Because it smashes all productivity purposes with a 13700h and a 4070

@@profacecreator3810 Well no. 1) It's a productivity-based laptop, your argument would also apply to the gaming benchmarks which they did anyways. 2) It has a severely limited 4070 with a 50W cap. The laptop suffers under load and thermal throttles itself to death. 3) This whole video feels very sponsored. It might be a good productivity laptop compared to a 2015 chromebook, but it is not compared to others in its pricerange. a laptop with better performance could be had for 1k$ less from the likes of asus or lenovo.

Not to be rude but why would you want a 4k screen option? I use my computer for both gaming and productivity (from standard office applications to video editing, rendering and programming) and don’t really ever think the resolution of a screen is a limitation.

@@henryfield2153 For the XPS usually they come with 3.5 Oled or 4K IPS (for the 9500, 9510 and 9520), and I want the 4k option because it's IPS so I wouldn't have to worry about burn-in, and also a higher resolution gives you so much more screen real estate (i.e. more lines of codes, more content while web browsing,...), and compared to a 1080p screen it's night and day, also realistically 4k on a 15inch laptop is pretty overkill (I prefer 1440p) but those were the only options Dell has been providing for years, and I just don't want to deal with the hassles of having an Oled display so 4k is my preferred option.

@@henryfield21534K video playback, whether it’s your own videos for creator reasons, or 4K movie streaming from the likes of Netflix. Also, Dell likes to pretend that 1440p doesn’t exist when it comes to the XPS line (even though that’s probably the happy medium here) so your only two options are the 4K screen they try to upsell you on with better brightness and whatever, or the budget base spec minimum brightness 300 nits if that 1080p screen that Dell is certainly skimping on. That’s why.

I certainly know someone that actually uses a Razor Blade, or at least I’d like to think I know myself anyways.

I can say with my personal experience with the FrameWork 13 coming from an XPS 13 that the FrameWork has way better thermal management. Also the XPS' hinges, fan bearing, display coating quality is super disappointing. All issues Dell seems to not care about fixing in newer generations of laptops. For the FrameWork I would say the touchpad is worse but then again everything that is improved over generations can be easily upgraded. Loving the FrameWork so far, can't wait to order the 16 inch model.

I'll also say I used an XPS 13 for Linux a while back buying the developer's edition thinking there might be better support. I was wrong. Not only was the battery drain awful due to the hardware trying to keep the network and Bluetooth on even when asleep, it also didn't come with the bios configured properly. This is just all the issues it had running Linux...

I have the current gen xps 15, and had most of the previous gens as well. I can wholeheartedly advice against getting an xps 15 if you will be daily driving linux. From intermittent touchpad delay, to terrible battery usage, to spotty wifi and bluetooth issues. And oh yeah, the subwoofers don't work either in Linux.

I found him a little slow this time around 🤣

The pricing is decent considering it competes in the premium laptop space.

was is battery life doing office tasks with a mix of video watching?