And why would that be bad?

@@donovan4222 echo chamber = good!!

😂☠️

Not just her but anyone who donates to "streamers"

​@@iconicspot6787 not necessarily true

Yes but let us be happy wearing clothes that were Literally made for us !

Richard, it is a piece of cloth. You don’t have to gender every single object on earth. Just go back to your dads attic and play cs-go instead of being an idiot online

@@richardabia9735heels were originally made for men

@@richardabia9735 who said you cant be happy doing that

​@@richardabia9735 It is significantly harder to be happy in that way. It is also significantly harder to be that way and not look and act in a way that makes you insufferable

Men have the right to be gay and to be loved by other men we all deserve to be somebody @godofmath1039 thanks for supporting the LGBTQ group we love the support

@@BlessedBuns Bruv who are you talking to?

@godofmath1039 u duh You don't make sense because Ben Shapiro is trying to normalize men being men. You're saying, let guys do whatever they want. We should have boundaries and restriction. Don't have sex with another man and do bad things BE.GOOD

i genuinely do not understand them are they okay

@@JuvenileFish8 exactly bro

Normalize freedom

Normalize the right to say whatever the fuck one wants if they see ridiculousness.

@@austinred458 Absolutely. Like, men should wear men clothes and women should wear women clothes .

@@austinred458why are you so obsessed with other people’s lives? i mean, i agree that men and women should stick to their own clothes but like, does anyone actually care in the real world? like, it’s their life at the end of the day, and they can do what they like. just focus on your own life instead of obsessing over clothes.

@@s.heikha yeah...and it's our life too...we can say whatever we want when we see them. We don't care doesn't mean we can't say anything.

I’m one of them

@@Legomknsw

Hell yes

“For the Republic!!”

This is cause I can get behind, for the Republic!!

I just wear basketball shorts and no shirt to bed. My big ass gets too hot. Edit: Spelling

Like. Im still confused on that one. Most the women i knew were wearing like junk shirts and basket ball shorts as "pajamas". Like most people in general i know wear regular clothes as pajamas. But i forget. Shes a special kind of stupid

If you wear pajamas outside of your house, you have problems.

@@vincedibona4687 oh yeah for sure, i just meant men wearing pajamas on general

@@vincedibona4687 I will cease wearing my Batman pajama pants and Harry Potter pajama sets when they no longer fit or are worn to shreds. And not a moment before. Seriously though-ever had a partner dress “night time sexy” to pick you up from the airport? Because… 10/10, highly recommend.

Sephiroth is so hot 🥵🥵🥵

@@SMCwasTakenreal

No dude men be men and women be women I’m tired of people saying do whatever you want oh we’re so “free” with this degenerate declining collapsing society

No

I know right? And those guys desperately try to explain why all of a sudden freedom is no longer good. After defending it against the "woke" people. It does scream triggered to me.

"Normalize xyz" is imperative. She's telling people what they should normalise, and they refuse.

The problem is normalize is used as an imperative. A man can have the freedom using a tutu, but I have the freedom to think he looks like an idi*t

"Do whatever you want, its none of my business" and "Let's all normalize, promote and accept it" are 2 very different things though.

​@@lilblondiebear her saying normalize means that nobody should tell them that they are doing something wrong or bully them rather everyone mind their own business. She is not saying everyone start doing this.

So a man should only wear clothes which can impress women?

Thats not the point, you shoudnt date people you dont like

@@wandelhok8142 His point went right over your head and crashed against the wall behind you.

@@The_Kronicus no it didnt i know what he means. My point is still valid. Have some justification?

@@Chaosssbvtch yeah...good luck saying that out loud on a women's forum. The only thing I can expect is 90% women coming after you saying "I CAN WEAR WHATEVER I WANT", " I DRESS FOR MYSELF", "STOP TRYING TO CONTROL MY BODY". And that makes sense right? But the moment a man does it, he is seen as " GAY". Why? Because he is OBVIOUSLY wearing it to get attention. How dare he wear something of his own choice.

That's not fair. Not all twitch streamers are like Pokimane.

Or just pokimane

Why would you pay anything to watch some nerd play a video game when you can play it yourself

@@Xeno_Solarus it’s not a real job. They do nothing to benefit the human race.

​@@bongjovi4928 there are some streamers who are very good at what they play, while having likeable personalities. Imo they r the ones who are deserving. And it's not like you are forced to pay them, it's still up to you

Because Ben is weird and he's trying to compensate.

No.

Make it weird? It is weird. Why on earth should men go around wearing dresses with lip stick and pretending they have a high voice? Are you even a guy? because I only ever see girls saying this bull crap.

this

I don't think guys being feminine should be "normalized." Am I insecure too?

@@lilblondiebear why isn’t it ok for us to normalise men being feminine?

@dreemlite5950 because men being feminine is not, by definition, "normal." A guy can be feminine all he wants, it's none of my business. But to suggest this behavior should be the new normal is a bit much.

@@lilblondiebear why? Why is it a bit much?

Yeah she’s definitely being a hypocrite here

she was a cam girl before twitch this garden tool not marrying in a million years

She’s part of that twitch crew who are puppets.

All these streamers are sociopaths. It's all an act.

Guess what

Beta male soy boys?

Idiots are not much of a customer. More like a sucker. So, she knows her sucker base.

​@@controshirtsyshe described the type of guys who pay her bills. She knows what she's doing.

@@controshirtsy the men that donate to her aren't masculine, they're what are called pu$$ies so she's pretending it's normal for men to wear make up just so they can keep giving her money.

@@controshirtsy what she said to normalize is what her male audience wears, she wants money

I love sml

@@Millieimpc cool me too

Hahaha how about no.

@@Nameentered you’re a very sad person

​@@NameenteredAre you ok?

Exactly because wtf is that😭

​@@TAYLORZACHLANAshaved pubes... Not a big fan, I mean that's basically a Dylan Mulvanney

@@noobwithsomecoffee8700 over exaggeration

@@noobwithsomecoffee8700 I'm just saying you're over exaggerating what I say.

Amen

Some do! And thats okay! ❤️

Ask my girlfriend that

​@@danimallover01 sure. But women and (woke)men today pretty much wanna force men to be feminine and submissive because women get a power trip over it or smth, which is NOT okay

The only thing I agree with is nail polish and makeup/skin care, you dont have to be wearing bright red lipstick and blue eye-shadow to be wearing makeup, and plus I know those things make me feel better so, you know.

Personally, I agree.

Well...I... I... I can understand what u want to point... but... but ...but tf? Ur mother is a woman! I am myself a woman and a mother of 4 ,3 are boys... what should they do? Not learning from me? At all? For real?.... that is fkd up🤦

Absolutely. Womansplaining ☕

I agree completely

Let's try to tell them what's ok to wear and see how that goes.

Gay Mr. Bean 💀 Fella walks into a room and exclaims “Bazinga!”

Lmao fr

@@NoteFromFamilyGuyLMFAOOO DAMN💀

This is the best comment I've ever read

Haha obviously. He spends way too much time criticizing things that just don't matter at all.

Well when you have women like her trying to turn men into anything but masculine lol what do you expect

You’d be shocked. Also, emo guys were laying it back when I was a kid and they wore girl jeans.

​@@christophermarang.3569 "They help me skate bro" was what I heard when skinny jeans came around.

​@@christophermarang.3569why do you think no one likes them 🗿

​@Subtlespeak i tried to wear skinny jeans jn my teen years. I was to skinny for them...

@GreyBlackWolf I was too tall for them to look right. So naturally I made fun of them and acted like they were dumb.

So you don’t believe that people should be allowed to choose what they wear?

​@@excusemeliam I'm pretty sure I believe I don't want to see your hairy belly staring at me

@@joellalthanzuala7100 but it’s fine for men to walk around shirtless and show all their body hair?

@@excusemeliam are you wanting people to where swatikas

​@@excusemeliam If your town is dominated by shirtless dude..I don't know? Is it your cultural thing?

Normalize men dressing up as Sephiroth

I like it.

@@rpandaplayz normalize Diamond armor 🥵🥵🥶

i have plans to join the marines and serve my country

Question. Based on your name, are you a biological male, not a transgender one.

Arrhrhrrhrrhrrhrrhrh give me sword and ale!!

It’s called autism

@Austrian Painter thats good but if as an daily clothing, your not gonna be able to do activities lmao ☠️☠️

Fr

When you remove shame from society, that is when it becomes degenerate

​@@zeusx6479true literal society shaming people has had some good otherwise being unemployed would be far more common

Normalize following and identifying with Jesus Christ, and not any gender or societal influence.

@@zeusx6479 You just like having an excuse to hurt people.

I absolutely agree. Thank you for this.

cringe

That is rubbish. Wear the clothes that were made for your sex !!! Simple as ABC for goodness sakes.

@@Chin-su I was trying not to do it, actually. You’re the one getting pressed.

@@Chin-suidentify politics says fuck that we all need to be angry lol

Nah Ben can't do that. He has to overcompensate for being bullied his whole childhood.

Ok. So I shall wear a klu kux klan robe and nobody should be allowed to say anything. You can wear whatever you want, but people are allowed to judge you for it. Just because you feel something is right, doesn't make it so

​@@domx7zero157 nope. Guaranteed it was you who was bullied your whole life. Couldn't be more obvious bro. And don't you find it funny that you, a person who is all about accepting people for who they are, is making fun of someone because they got bullied.

Actually no because if your going to wear clothing that's specifically not made for a certain gender DO NOT WEAR IT. Why does most of this come from girls btw? most men disagree and just want to be masculine which we were created.

Facts

Yea, pretty much. The only people who defend her are worthless themselves. Its like a giant crowed screaming and yelling and still not really saying anything at all.

@@GreyBlackWolf funny how you say that her crowd is “saying nothing at al” when you yourself are literally saying nothing at all

​@@Lola_707Funny how you proved their point by saying nothing of value.

You guys are simps

But then, a masculine woman is okay, right? Ever heard of tomboys? Why the double standards? Both are wrong.

Against the Zionists that don’t want Caucasian men to be strong and united*

@@TedEhioghae Being a Tom boy and a guy wearing nail polish are totally different things.

​@@Zero-1 just report him as spam and move on. he is one of them.

@@TedEhioghae God made men masculine and women feminine. Those who claim to be something that they’re not is a mental illness.

This

Don't worry about him. He trying to compensate because he's been called gay his whole childhood.

Ikr.

Ben is way too insecure, like most conservatives.

No. That's why we have an absurdly fat country. Because the vast majority don't go to the gym

@@Nameentered obesity is a big problem in the US because Americans are car dependent, unregulated food companies sell people unhealthy and addictive sugary products, many people either can't afford to go to the gym or don't have enough time. literally all the reasons why Americans are so obese is because they live in a neoliberal country, obesity in the states is the fault of the right not the left

@@domx7zero157 He hardly even said anything in the video. I'd assume your just a fan of pokimane so your hear to defend her very stupid opinion about a gender she isn't.

Does no one remember Johnny depp in a crop top in nightmare on elm street??? 🥰

@@nothingreally1234 Yeah, but he got kind of done in by Freddy, so the situation worked itself out in the end 🙂

For me personally crop tops are sooo comfortable 😂i wear them almost everyday😅

So then why do you wear them?

she was only saying that so she didn't get "canceled"

You say that, but there's a small but sizeable amount of women who do actually date effeminate men, even crossdressing men or genderfluid men. The problem is, women are almost all using birth control which interferes with their menstrual cycle and influences mating preferences towards feminine men.

They re whole group is sketch.

Frfr

I mean, she can still have different preferences. It’s not toxic lmao

Should men only dress a certain way to impress women?

real

Too hard for Ben, look at his debate with Alex O Connor. He does everything to avoid answering his questions.

Thank you!

si. SII. YES. YES.

Judgmental is such a loaded and abused word. There is the 'execution' style judgement, which is not being displayed here. And then there is the far less intrusive 'opinion you have of something'. And everyone is allowed an opinion. When you conflate the two, you ironically are trying to manipulate and push others to not have an opinion.

@@Niveous23 their saying people should just respect each others opinions unless it’s a really horrible one

Certain people do not deserve respect and learn by harsher language or force

YESSS

Their kenough

Her: “normalize guys wearing whatever clothes they want” You: “these are such unrealistic harsh expectations thrown by society!!” 😭

@@casebased8391 I think OP is throwing shade at Ben Shapiro and the guy who made that compilation not Pokimane.

@@TristanWintle I think you’re wrong.

Exactly clothes don’t equal gender heels and makeup were originally made for men 😭

Fr😂

When did he say that? He said he wasn't a fan of guys filming themselves in the gym...... How do you get "hit the gym" out of that?

​@@trooperdgb9722 when you find his top lip those questions will be answered to you in a shower of clarity.

Bros trying to find anything bad to say about Ben 👾

Reminds me when he used to say rap wasn't real music but he sure joined a rapper for a quick buck.

As a woman I agree, also normalize smudgy eyeliner for guys. Thats hot 💖💖

Hell yeah. With epic beards.

@@stevexracer4309 LMAO I've heard that. Suits on men are to women like lingerie on women is to men, though. Military Class A's, nicely tailored suits (not really tuxes, but those are okay for weddings), that sort of stuff.

@@redvelvet9215 Meh. I think the eyeliner should be more for performances, like on stage.

Suits are for elitists that don’t work real jobs

Ha-ha-ha! 😂

We see your cry for help dude, maybe stop standing on that Skelton and come out with that bud, just leave the nouns alone.. 😂

and no homo included

That’s Just Homie-Sexual 😂😂

@@Cent51 its a joke but not necessarily a funny one

Yes, he is the real cancel culture, most of us “liberal sissy boys” don’t cancel people, but on the other hand he is actively trying and actively cancelling people.

Pokimane is actually a guy?

Ben or the other guy,cuz I agree with both

If only you were capable of that, huh?

Never normalize ignoring people like this, they'll keep going until someone gets hurt.

Back when men still weren't afraid of wearing makeup and high heels ?

@@slavishentity6705 men invented these things for women , not girly men

@@scottrobinson7360 people invented these things for kings and emperors. Then it became "girly".

@@slavishentity6705 men invented . what is your problem

@@slavishentity6705 and why can't kings and emperors be girly men , canadas pm australias pm . as an example

Sure you’re allowed to do whatever you want as long as you don’t hurt anyone but people are also allowed to judge you as long as it’s not illegal too.

@@Marrow040 Sure, and it goes both ways as well. You have the right to your opinions and even judge, just don’t go out of your way to harm/bully the person. This is already obvious and apparent. Which brings me back to my whole point of kindness, or just having basic decency and respect (something society lacks often, especially on the internet), even if you may not agree with something. The whole idea of normalizing this and that (especially trivial things) are conversations that often goes nowhere and shouldn’t hold much emphasis or importance in my opinion. We all die anyways.😂😂😂

Then expect to be judged, if you wanna be weird, accept the consequences of it

⁠@@R11T16_ I don’t care, the whole point of my comment is to just focus on yourself, be kind, and be a decent human being, that’s quite literally it. No need to force anyone to normalize anything, just do what works for you. Who gives a fuck if Tom wears nail polish? Who gives a fuck if Jerry doesn’t like that Tom wears nail polish? Who gives a flying fuck if Sam goes to the gym for 24 hours a day?😂Different strokes for different folks. People will judge, there will always be a person that dislikes something, there will always be someone with a differing opinion. People that already do/wear what they want are aware of that. We are not put on this earth to please people.😊

​​@@Burn143But, we are put on this earth to be proud of who we are. Wearing clothes specifically for the opposite sex just to say "F*** you " to society is ridiculous and narcissistic. There is no shortage of comfortable male or comfortable female clothing. So, the targets of each clothing type should adhere to their nature. We are not better than the people of the past We are not above normal things. We are not above norms and traditions. We are not above wearing clothes that fit our characteristics. Yes love people and be kind, but also don't be a damn weirdo.

That's what I'm saying. we should normalize and legalize weed so everyone could chill tf out

I can barely stand it on girls let alone guys.

I looked at her the first time and saw his face after reading this comment 😂😂😂

Crop tops are literally men's clothes tho... Ever heard of the 80's-90's?

I don't know what a crop top is.

​@@amvp8743 that was just like a trend and no more than that and I would like to tell all my friends group opinion that no-one out of all that guys liked that

Exactly I don't understand why it's so hard for people to just accept people being happy in their own skin 🤦‍♀️

EXACLY so many people in the comment section is talking about how people don’t want feminine guys

​@@starlight4412 yeah, in the grand scheme, femininity just doesn't work out. Only the successful, rich people make the rules of our world, and it takes masculinity to become successful, so that's what you get being idolized worldwide.

exactly. Live and let live

Just like a vegan Dog....🤡

hell yeah that I can support

Bro thats already normalized

@@tanushjaison5972 they're talking about being masculine solely as a choice

@@aratof18 Nah I'm mainly talking about all the forceful feminization of men by twitter users and other only platforms

many people say what you're saying without living it but I have. My sisters constantly believe that toxic masculinity exists and that men should wear and be as feminine as they want. But when one of them says something along the lines of "real men no longer exist" the other just agrees completely. It's a bit bullshit to provoke something you yourself wouldn't want

Just wait until all these men in crop tops start claiming to be a woman and taking opportunities from these women. They won't be supporting it then 😂

l love men! let them be masculine and flawed and giv mono-syllibic grunts as answers! l didnthe cleaning! he built the cabinets! we worked together but complemented the differences and thats how it should be! right now china is building their military and trying to take over the world currency standard.. and we are letting the idiot in the WH hemorrhage monies to the rest of the globe while we need it here! we are all being distracted with "what is a woman" while our tax dollars (YOURS!) are being wasted when we need it here! dont let their agendas distract you!

@@Horzinicla Women are always confused with this stuff and never stop to actually think about it.

@@Horzinicla woman literally don't know what they want. It's not anything new.

No. People should not wear whatever they want, be them men, women, boys or girls.

@@razvan4188 they should though. Because that's how socializing works. If we wear something crazy, people judge us, we decide we don't like that, we stop wanting to wear it. Or, we don't care what people think, we keep wearing crazy things, and most people continue to not take us seriously and our life is hindered because of our choice. We wear suits because we know that if we do, our chances go up because people's opinions go up and that's sometimes crucial to us. Therefore we want to wear a suit. We might dress up because we want to, we might dress down for comfort when we want comfort. We already wear whatever we want, we just don't want to show up to a job interview in comfy underwear because that's an uncomfortable situation. Not because of the underwear but because of people. Fashion is all about wearing something crazy, then it catches on because enough of society decides they approve. And usually that isn't the majority, at first. Wear what you want and face the repercussions, say what you want and face the repercussions. Same idea. You'll find out what you don't want to say or wear, real quick.

@@TheHigherFury I would agree with you, but look how easy it is for all the weirdos to corrupt impressionable kids these days.

@@razvan4188 yeah, we should normalize ridiculing people who try to normalize ridiculous things 😁

​@@TheHigherFury if you don't have something nice to say then don't say it

How about no. It's that kind of thought process that has dudes cutting their genitals off thinking they can be girls. It's that kind of thinking that has people allowing kids to take hormone medication and even have surgeries that will have permanent irreversible affects before they can even experience real life. What's next? Allowing pedophiles to be with children? It's already considered rude and hurtful to call them pedophiles... We are now supposed to call them minor attracted people. Besides, how is it mean to say that certain types of things are meant for girls? It's literally just an opinion. So now you are essentially saying that nobody is allowed to even speak an opinion. In order to have an opinion, you have to risk offending someone else. You will create a society with authoritarian rule. Everyone must think and believe this way. Otherwise, it's gulag and reeducation camp for you. I promise you. That's what's coming. We are having our rights stripped away from us one by one. And it's all under the guise of feelings.

So normalize it........

Yeah thats what normalizing means….

@@chain12bb yeah and I hate that word. As if we all need to be on board with everything everyone else is doing with their lives. It’s absurd. Nothing needs to be “normalized” because everyone’s idea of “normal” is different.

@@daydreamdog851 “letting people live the way they wanna live” is literally what normalizing something means and your personal opinion on the word is completely and utterly irrelevant. Also you contradict yourself, before you said we should let people live the way they wanna live, and now you dont want to be on board with the way some people wanna live their lives?

@@chain12bb lmao who said it has to be relevant to you? It’s my opinion, no one is forcing you to agree. This is a good example of what I mean. You don’t have to completely agree with me here but no one is stopping you from having your own opinion on the subject. Get it?

👏👏👏👏👏

Preach! 👏👏👏

I don’t know what you mean? Do you mean men should be themselves because men are men? Or is it that men should be “themselves” even though they can’t handle themselves being men

Lovers of self rather than lovers of God In other words this mindset promotes depopulation disease mental illness heart attacks etc you're all willingly killing your own species to satiate your ego

I genuinely think I'm once a ruler in before my reincarnation

Ben doesn't have his own business.

its been this way for 100s of years stop trying to change things loser

Plus, the standards change all the time. Manly men wore crop tops in the 80s, even in media (He-Man & Liono ) Men wore tights in centuries past. The passing of time doesn't make a style right or wrong. Feeling as though something is wrong based solely on a gut feeling or what you've been taught may be what's wrong.

@@plasmakatana8291 precisely. It’s all bullshit. There is no “way things ought to be”, it’s just how it is. But that doesn’t mean that is the way is has to be

EXACTLY!!😊

Exactly, makeup was for men first. And not letting them wear pajamas is so stupid

Yup, couldn't of said it better myself.

Exactly💯sure she don’t wanna lose his army of beta males😂

Who really cares?

And she has more money than you too 😂😂😂

And how much u got sofia?

Hahaha. I'm must have missed the part where he said we must create a law that forces men to only wear masculine things? Sorry buddy, but people are allowed to have an opinion. Just because he says he thinks men shouldn't wear girl things doesn't mean that they can't. He has literally said on many occasions that if you want to dress up like a girl, then go for it. But what he has a problem with is the fact that that you are trying to tell us what we are supposed to think and believe. Your side is literally doing exactly what you are accusing Ben of doing.

That’s because you’re sexist

don't say 'nobody' because you are one person. you can't speak for everybody in the world.

I want it. Nothings wrong with me painting my nails. I’m still the same person, I’m not trying to paint myself more masculine or feminine. I’m still me, just with painted nails.

.. No?

'Nobody wants this!' I do!!! I want to see more men like this (Not the loud mouth, I mean more men in skirts and nail polish), they're hot as fuck. Love me any kind of person who's confident in wearing what they wanna wear!

Whats the issue with that?

@@herx6339 I don’t think you understand

@@herx6339 bros just begging at this point

Revannnnnn

@@herx6339 Duuude. Girls have said that to my face so many times, and it’s almost never sincere. Most of the time I see them at school the next day getting all close with another dude. It hurts but young dating is mostly to get to know potential options for marriage. I just wish there was honesty.

How about we normalize people being allowed to have their own opinions? Sorry but I'm allowed to think that its weird for men to wear things that are designed for girls. That's not being mean. Can't have a free society when people aren't allowed to have their own opinions.

I think you should look in the mirror

@@reiemmerich1800 Holy shit that roast was so fucking good. You get the *I’m a fucking retard middle schooler who sucks at everything* reward good shit mate 👏👏👏👏👏

She’s part of the twitch society all phony’s

​@reiemmerich1800 how does that have to do with anything?

What’s wrong in society is people not dressing how you want them to? LMFAO imagine being this childish

But then, a masculine woman is okay, right? Ever heard of tomboys? Why the double standards? Both are wrong..

Yup! Cause "he" wouldn't BE a MAN!!

Who cares? You don’t have to like how other people dress

Hence normalize

My girlfriend does.

@@donovan4222 Yes. I don't have to. But they should dress non-degenerately out of respect for everything sacred. If you are loud on a train in Japan, it's considered very disrespectful. There's a certain way you should conduct yourself. In the same manner, there's a certain way you should present yourself in America so as to not be disrespectful to humanity itself...

yes!

Amen

FR

​@Johnson Howard hence the reason I don't respect you.

Respect is earned not given

😂

💀

Are we just ignoring the fact that folks like Candace Owens have been echoing the same exact statements? Or that most of the pushback in this comments section seems to come from men in particular?

normalize getting a life and not ignoring the truth lmao

​@@corbinoiscoolbro look If you look to anyone be it ben, a friend, or fmaily memeber as someone who hold absolute truth.....youre setting yourself for failure and to be played/hustled. Look i like your purauit of knowledge. Listen to bens shows if you want. All im saying is take everything no matter what with a grain of salt. You should never put your faith and teust into people 100% like this tho. Especially someone who is a celebrity of some kind be it hollywood, political, online, whatever. They are personalities. They may hold some good advice or points you agree with. But do not ever fall into the trap of giving anyone your full trust I say this not trying to bash the left or right. I sau this as someone who loves acadmia, knowledge and the like. Just please be more open minded. Again not saying you are wrong for watching ben. Hell i think he makes some good points sometimes. But if you cant challenge him then you arent thinking for yourself. That doesntt meam go a full 180 and challenge him from the other extreme. No. Thats just as bad. Im saying critically break down his arguments. Ask questions. Even if you feel hes right challenge your own thoughts as to why you feel that. You may find there are some pointa you agree and others where hes wrong or could've approached it differently.

@@aliquidgaming1068 bro what. im not wasting my time reading that. u gotta be tweekin lmao.

​@@corbinoiscool What we should normalize is men not caring about how masculine they appear

@@StarFelMusic nope. not at all. masculinity is a whole mans reputation. its what he stands by and what people respect him for. its in our blood. thick and through. im a junior and im 190 pounds, can bench 285, squat 350, and deadlift 390. thats my reputation. develop yours and stand with the lord. as he will help you find your way. i plan to be a marine someday and i hope you find something to do with life instead of sit around secretly wishing you had muscles and telling the internet u dont wish u had them. quit lying and wake up bud. its 2024. new year new you. stay masculine. because in only death does duty end.

married the first woman he fell in love with, has a great marriage to an attractive woman who has never slept with anyone but him, is a loving father, is worth millions, is not afraid to speak his mind, and has guys like you seething because you've got a better body than him (maybe) but still won't ever have half the life he has, because you missed the critical window of development. Yeh, I'd say he's pretty masculine.

@@voskresenie-masculine? I have a friend, a born female, identifies as female, friend whose voice is deeper than his. I know someone who’s got twice as much facial hair as bench appearo and twice the body mass from working out alone. I know you think something as simple as marrying your first partner is “masculine” but I’ve met tea kettles with more testosterone than Ben shabibo. Btw, he’s got lip fillers. Your oh so masculine man gets lip injections.

@@voskresenie- Well if he married the first woman he fell in love with good for him, but you need to understand that that is rare and unrealistic to expect of everyone. Most people need to test out different people before settling for one. "Loving father" nice to know his children are straight and cisgender "Worth millions" so? "Not afraid to speak his mind" yeah and neither are many many people who disagree with him who are more feminine Most importantly though, I think doing what you want without caring what other people think is way more manly than only doing "manly" things all the time. If you genuinely only want to do "manly" things all the time, that's fine, but shaming men who don't and do want to do more feminine things is definitely the least manly thing you could do

@@nickronca1562 "that is rare" agreed. "and unrealistic to expect of everyone." nope. it's not. the key is to avoid even considering falling in love with someone who you haven't screened for marriage material and dropping them as soon as you realize they're not. then you don't fall in love with someone who you wouldn't marry. then you marry the person you fall in love with and commit to staying with them till you die. then you actually put in the work to make that happen. it's not unrealistic or even difficult -- it's literally how marriage worked for nearly all of human history and still how it works in many parts of the world -- it just runs completely counter to the plan mainstream society pushes for finding the 'perfect' someone for you. the tragedy is that the more people you date, the /further/ you get from finding that 'perfect' someone, since you begin to compare each future partner to the best parts of all previous partners and consequently, they will fall short in almost every way. The things you need to make a marriage work are A) attraction (but not necessarily the most attraction you've ever felt), B) shared values, and C) a willingness to stick with the other no matter what. All of these are discoverable within a couple months of dating. Most, I can tell within 5 minutes of a first date. (C) seems to be stating the obvious -- 'of course people who refuse to get divorced don't get divorced' -- but it's reflected in marital satisfaction, too, not just divorce rates. You'd think, all things being equal, that people opposed to marriage would have lower marital satisfaction rates, since they could be stuck married to someone they hate for 60 years whereas a couple not opposed to divorce would divorce after a few years of that, but the opposite is true. Turns out, when you're stuck with someone, you more often than not find a way to make things work.

@@voskresenie- You are literally contradicting yourself. Do you want people to marry the first person they fall in love with or do you want people to marry who they are attracted to, have shared values with, and a willingness to stick with your partner no matter what? Because that isn't always the first person who you fall in love with. Also what even qualifies as "falling in love" because that is going to mean different things to different people. Does merely being physically attracted count, or does there have to be an emotional attraction? Some people who are merely physically attracted but not emotionally wouldn't say they're in love, while others will. Some people who are merely emotionally attracted wouldn't say they're in love while others will. And what's wrong with falling in love, dating, then afterwards realizing you're too incompatible with each other? That makes no sense why you shouldn't be allowed to do that. Yes, your partner doesn't have to be perfect, but they should at least be compatible. Not to mention you can't control who you fall in love with. There are many many reasons why you either can't or don't want to marry the first person you fall in love with, but you're setting an unrealistic standard where what? You're either not allowed to fall in love until you're engaged, or you're supposed to end up marrying them (eventually) the moment you fall in love even if it's on a first date. Also fuck you for divorce shaming, as if some people aren't better off with it. If it's that bad where the literal only thing preventing two people from getting a divorce is feeling like they "aren't allowed to" then that isn't them making it work, that's them forcing themselves to stay with each other even though it isn't working, you jackass. Sometimes you need to date or even marry multiple people because shit happens. Things don't work out. Some people aren't as nice as you though. Some people have incompatible wants or needs. You might be dating someone who you absolutely can not tolerate the beliefs of. Maybe you can't tolerate them for a different reason. But if someone is dating someone you can't just expect them to not fall in love with the literal person they are dating if not had already been in love, and if they do fall in love with the person they are dating you can't just expect them to 100% guarantee that they get married to them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that that is one of the most gaslighting things I have ever heard.

@@R11T16_ if you want to then you don’t have to imagine it, you can do it! 😂

@@calmghosts You're on the offender list, aren't you?

@@R11T16_ you were the one imagining it, not me. 😂

@@MuDkipzCHancelLOr Ah yes, people believing people deserve the freedom to dress how they want means you’re an offender. Totally not a mentally ill opinion to have.

​Sure, wear the opposite sex clothing and walk in to their restroom, I'll see you on the offender list soon. ​@@calmghosts

Yes, thank you! Idc if my boyfriend would wear skirts, dresses, crop tops, make up and nail polish instead of suits or anything. I LOVE HIM FOR WHAT MAKES HIM HIMSELF AND NOT WHAT HE LIKES TO WEAR!❤

@@francesca_mylove Good.. You wouldn't care either even if he could improve himself and be his best he could as he is already perfect and he shouldn't put much effort in your relationship either I guess

@@joellalthanzuala7100 dude what

@@francesca_mylove ❤

@Thethemeisthereisnotheme he's saying people aren't perfect. In fact, we change all the time. Sometimes, for the worse, like choosing to be an activist in trying to delineate fundamental lines between men and women. We have people that actually believe men can give birth. That's why this is a problem. It is not innocent choice-making.

Thats even weirder. You walk naked alone

@@VVVvl230 Tf am I supposed to wear then? A full on suit and tie?

@@cloroxbleach7554 nothing? I understand pajamas if you're stayin at a friends place or something. Why the fuck would you wear that sht alone just go naked or put some clothes on

Ok groomer

​@@VVVvl230Bro you really expect a person to walk around with a business suit even during sleeping hours

yeah, if you aren't actually hurting anyone (and anyone of any sex or gender wearing ANY clothes or cosmetics they choose is not hurting anyone) it really shouldn't be shamed. mind your own business type shit. just a dude in a dress is not a threat and the worst it will "influence" the kids is that maybe they will grow up confident in themselves. now people who are putting themselves on the internet like Dylan Mulvaney, I mean you kinda accept the chance for criticism and hate when you become a celebrity. I feel as a woman Dylan is mocking the experience of being a woman. and I have several friends who happen to be trans women and my own (soon to be) husband is effeminate and cross dresses. but yeah, if you're literally going onto a stage, no shit you're gonna get hate. if Dylan removed themselves from public life, just did their thing living a normal life, literally NOBODY would care and I would say it's fucked up to even criticize it.

​@@livyann2143 holy

I normalize not paying taxes.

@@livyann2143 Not reading all that just from the first 2 lines i read

@@adelalmohtaseb5261 then why even reply to me? I'm literally just saying let people wear what they want. Because yk, they should have the freedom to do that

How do you know? Have you met her?

@@Lola_707 did you meet her ?

@@Lola_707 stop simping bro

So you think we should force people to dress like they are trying to date us? Seems like a weird idea

​@@Lola_707 did you meet her?

Normalize men wearing diamond and netherite armor 🥵🥵🥵🤯🤯🤯

agreed

Fr

Quick question though, have you ever seen a man wearing a crop top and makeup and acting like a women in history books? Damn y’all love fighting in the comments fr 💀💀 I just asked a question not whole argument

​@@Charlotte-jf2ij yes

@@Charlotte-jf2ijcrop top personally no, other two yes

Based

Imagine thinking that wearing nail polish makes someone not a real man.

@@NoriMori1992 men don't care we just laugh, girls will give you a wide ass berth because they don't like your kind. Not even the ones are into this shit who are seemingly advocating for that behavior. :)

then she dates the complete opposite lol. wemen.

You mean me that have penises? Wearing nail polish or a skirt doesn’t make you less of a man

​@@geinkatschicte Says the guy who needs to "express how manly he is" by bullying some stranger online with their "big boy feelings" but okay.

Lol and you people say lefties hug box. You're asking for the ultimate echo chamber.

But then, a masculine woman is okay, right? Ever heard of tomboys? Why the double standards? Both are wrong.

@@TedEhioghae since when does man go out saying "normalize" tomboys? Tomboys suffer bullying and most of them, if they are not beautiful with big tits and ass, unfortunately will not get the guys they want.

@@TedEhioghae a tomboy isn’t a masculine woman, it’s a little girl who enjoys activities that mostly boys do and are a little rougher than most girls. they’re not trying to be nor do they believe that they’re boys, and there’s nothing wrong with that. try again..

Or Ben Shapiro

Fr

People can have opinions about things other people do

Wrd

Exactly bro😂

or people who cant defend themselves like transitioning children...