This Smash Bros. character will make you hate yourself.

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Ай бұрын

Coney reacts to ‪@Brawlternative‬'s video, "The Worst Matchup in Smash History was in Brawl(It's not Metaknight)", and shares his experience playing Brawl in other worse matchups that weren't mentioned in the video.
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@Brawlternative Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching! I won't mention you attempting the Dedede chaingrab because it was probably cut for a reason. Looking forward to seeing more!

@feurolant Ай бұрын

Amazing videos on your part, it's so refreshing and nice to have actual Brawl videos!

@Masaru_kun Ай бұрын

Coney bashing you and your channel and then finding out you're a 3 year sub and in his chat, is the essence of Coney...

@illford6921 3 күн бұрын

@@Masaru_kuntbf I think it'd obvious that coney is not actually bashing them

@igloo2326 Ай бұрын

Can't believe the best Tekken player of our time became a Smash streamer, ICANT

@Kazaam1996 Ай бұрын

Lazy Mattman plays Smash now?

@frickroll Ай бұрын

Hey that ain’t Dokibird

@tentalz1590 Ай бұрын

Wdym, slime already played smash

@BudewFan_ Ай бұрын

Since when did FD signifier start streaming smash?

@Jelliott_ssb Ай бұрын

Yeah, Brawlpr- wait…

@terrortaste6389 Ай бұрын

>Opens with trying to prove the subject of the stream/vid wrong >Embarasses self trying to prove them wrong This is why I love Coney

@luigiboyinblu Ай бұрын

>”I’m gonna factcheck this myself, like a true American! >Completely humiliates himself in front of MILLIONS by failing a made up tech he was told by someone else was the best with Sheik and took it at face value without questioning or trying it himself before stream. Coney is one of the streamers of all time.

@someonestolemytoast2139 Ай бұрын

he was 110% joking and baiting to get people interested but yeah we love coney

@Xanek Ай бұрын

What a thumbnail. Mr. "Knows all about brawl" Has trouble finding how moves work in training mode.

@toxic_shr00m Ай бұрын

lmfao

@ConnortheGonnor Ай бұрын

Wario isn't fat, just full of lots of helium, he wanted to be the new puff.

@christiankoll1528 Ай бұрын

I don't think helium is the source of the waft.. but it is definitely a gas

@toxic_shr00m Ай бұрын

I knew it was only a matter of time for Coney to watch this channel

@simonbecker979 Ай бұрын

Saw it coming a mile away

@nexonus9513 Ай бұрын

Wait till you lean the guy who made the video is a coney sub for 3 years

@toxic_shr00m Ай бұрын

@@nexonus9513 dude comments this 5 hours after I saw the video omegalul

@George_235 Ай бұрын

I know right

@Brawlternative Ай бұрын

@@nexonus9513 42 months, so technically 3.5 :)

@grunkleg.3110 Ай бұрын

19:17 The best part of this sequence is that I think Shiek would've landed the Up Smash if not for Ganondorf bringing his legs in before D-Air

@Kaiser25 Ай бұрын

Coney failing to demonstrate other matchups is hillarious lol.On another note, Brawlternative's contente is amazing

@castform7 Ай бұрын

9:24 The only 2008 game in which Kirby has a favorable matchup against Meta Knight is in Kirby Super Star Ultra.

@lorenzomcbo7229 Ай бұрын

"Not in my region, get f*cked pink fresh" killed me 😂. So ness was inmune to dedede

@reperfan4 22 күн бұрын

Kind of, actually. Not really "immune" but more like "heavily resistant." Dedede's big thing was his chain grabs but his chain grabs only worked on characters with certain properties. Some characters were too light or had too much gravity for it to work on (they'd splat on the ground rather than slide away thus preventing a regrab), and some characters had low enough friction they'd simply slide too far away. It all depended on the particular physics of the character being thrown. Some of those characters who slid too far away COULD be regrabbed, but Dedede would have to actually do a Dash Grab to catch them due to how far away they slid and this drastically cut down how many times Dedede could actually throw since now that they had to sprint forward between each grab they'd run out of stage after only a few grabs. So rather than an instant touch of death it was more like just a guaranteed 30%-40% and that was it. This was the category Ness and Lucas fell into, meaning they weren't as susceptible to Dedede's tricks. Mind it still wasn't great because them being dragged across the stage also meant that once the chain grab was over they were also guaranteed to be in an edgeguarding situation against a character pretty darn good at edgeguarding, but that's still better than it being a Touch of Death.

@bottleneck-5548 Ай бұрын

Coney confidently trying to prove someone wrong on the internet and then embarrassing himself on stream is the most Coney thing ever.

@MasterHeracross Ай бұрын

I literally just finished the video coney's reacting to. Talk about timing. Also I was surprised to learn that brawlalternative is a new channel making new brawl content in this day and age is an odd choice but a welcomed one.

@wumbojet Ай бұрын

Bro is like an archeologist exploring the pyramids of Giza lmao

@Adr16n1122 Ай бұрын

Coney's genuine joy as he yells "Its a weird percentage thing! I love brawl." I felt that.

@gamer-qk8vd Ай бұрын

At SmashCon 2023 I watched a guy practice the ZSS down smash loops on a cpu while he was waiting for his pools match. Unbroken stare at the CRT for like 15 minutes

@dumbchild1514 Ай бұрын

Do not be deceived KZfaq viewers, not only did he mention Pikachu fox in the original video, but the end of this video was a falsehood, he played 0 brawl after the screen faded to black, despite the implication. Coney is not to be trusted

@ilostthecat6973 Ай бұрын

Idk if this counts but when customs were legal villager vs little Mac was unwinnable for Mac. Villager just places the trip sapling in center stage and shoots you with Lloyd and sling shot and there’s just nothing Mac can do against it

@ItsMeChair1 Ай бұрын

Coney has been dethroned for Brawl content

@DrSwazz Ай бұрын

21:40 Uh oh, back to the lab again

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

lmao

@LunaticJ Ай бұрын

It’s funny whenever Coney talks about Brawl, he tries so hard to convince chat Ness is a well designed character lol

@Delta21OnYT Ай бұрын

Jokes on you Coney I already hate myself

@AlanMcClure-zu5cd Ай бұрын

Hey Coney! Judo here on my silly mobile screen name. Ftilt has percent windows starting at like 25 unstale. But it does true combo into usmash when started at the correct time. Also Ganon literally cant hit Sheik with her chain out under a platform. And needles are hard for him to deal with. Also ftilt to fair hits him at angles he can't recover from. Might not be the worst matchup but its really really bad.

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

hi judo :3 miss ya bud

@maxpower7612 Ай бұрын

If you buffer the ftilt, sheik can start it as low as 8% on fox (and falco), leading to touch of deaths off of a single falling aerial or an utilt at 0%. It's really broken once it connects, but at least it loses to shield...

@John12346 Ай бұрын

So, there is a reason why Sheik Ganon was such a bad matchup, and it was because Ganon was literally unable to approach through Sheik's old SideB Chain while she was under a platform. The move was simply too large, and was also transcendent, and it prevented quite literally all of his frontal approaches from working, even if he came in from behind where Chain loses a bit of range. His only real way to fight against it was to come in from above with an aerial (usually Dair), but if there was a platform in the way there was quite literally no reliable way for him to set that up properly. With this in mind, it gave Sheik a very mindless wincon via timeout if she ever got the lead.

@Sizzyl Ай бұрын

coney losing to the level 1 gannon really sells this video for me

@donkylefernandez4680 25 күн бұрын

They over corrected Wario's air friction in smash 4 by making him a pseudo Jiggly Puff

@onlysmiles4949 Ай бұрын

"It was banned out of pity" is incredible

@karlispovisils5297 Ай бұрын

In a cheesy Russian accent: “You want to debunk Brawlternative? No, no, no. Brawlternative debunk you!”

@YouTube_itself Ай бұрын

I saw this video and thought, man coney has talked a lot about this machup. Glad to see you covering it

@saltifyy Ай бұрын

When I watched the Ness Marth video all I could think of was how inevitable a Coney reaction was

@byrontheusurper6505 Ай бұрын

I love smash history so much for no reason

@drstclair Ай бұрын

I had this playing while playing while laying in bed. I fell asleep and Coney was in my dream. While on a field trip in the dream, i told him that Brawlternativ put out a new video about the 60:40 ditto. He acted like he didnt hear me, and proceeded to work on the video as if he just saw the video in his subscriptions. I proceeded to look up a video I had seen with the worst fighting game matchups overall I had seen. The video was from Hold Back to Block, and I was thinking of Iori vs Chin. What an odd thing to dream, but I would love videos about both videos!

@AverageDoctor345 Ай бұрын

Opening with Checker Knights startled me, I use that for my alarm lmao

@calapai7 Ай бұрын

Honestly someone could make a cool 10-15 minute video about Sonix % Mario 64 Speedruns. You explain what a timeout is, why Sonic and Sonix do it, but also Gluto and Dabuz, introduce Coney and document the attempts until he finally achieved it. I was there.

@embert.k.2107 Ай бұрын

I actually got hit by that Sheik F-Tilt infinite in bracket and I had no idea how to deal with it

@dangangalaxy9759 Ай бұрын

Man I forgot Brawl had the best music and sound design in the series

@matthewbartlett3442 Ай бұрын

21:00 YOU WERE CHOSEN ONE IT WAS SAID THAT YOU’D BE THE ONE TO DESTROY THE SITH NOT JOIN THEM

@spaceace9103 Ай бұрын

It was so cool hearing some Brawl tech I heard from oldman Coney being mentioned on Brawlternative.

@Disisdabeast Ай бұрын

I WAS WAITING FOR CONEY TO REACT TO THIS VIDEO LETS GOOOOOO

@1000g2g3g4g800999 28 күн бұрын

I thought Wario's air friction was deliberate, since he functionally has instant midair horizontal acceleration.

@YargyTheLandPirate Ай бұрын

Love that coney has a channel all for himself to react to

@joelnub9547 21 күн бұрын

Snakes brawl down throw is just like it is in ult where he gently lays you down.... i always thought that throw was really funny cause if you dont do the pummel its like hes getting ready to tuck you into bed

@LuigiLitoLL Ай бұрын

4:50 hehe, yeah...*sobs internally*

@kirbleramiku Ай бұрын

new coney video comes out while im watching another coney video. life is good.

@calic737 Ай бұрын

I don't think we talked about buffer grabs. Pikachu could also chain grab other characters a lot more than you would at first think.

@sirhawkjames Ай бұрын

that ending ICANT

@randommaster06 Ай бұрын

Props to Coney for actually testing the Brawl moves.

@SSSoftboiSupreme 6 күн бұрын

it's a good thing lucas' family isn't around to see him jobbing to the cast of brawl like that

@trueblueryu5713 Ай бұрын

Training specifically in Brawl for Supernova, AKA Super Smash con. I’ll also enter 64, since those 2 had the lowest turnout at last year’s smash con, and I enjoyed the games I played there quite a lot last year.

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

good luck, see you there :)

@babsbabsbabsbabs Ай бұрын

Played an Ultimate Local for the first time couple years ago, got all the way to semi-finals with Lucas only losing once. Lost 2-0 to a Marth. That generational hate goes far.

@1000g2g3g4g800999 28 күн бұрын

There were definitely ways to do the Marth v PSI kid infinite without moving across the stage.

@saxeladude 18 күн бұрын

less than a minute in just goes to show how much good editing can bring in an audience.

@virgilgc Ай бұрын

The ending was literally, bar by bar, "respect your elders" 2

@felipegodoy5342 Ай бұрын

I've never seen coney happier talking about brawl lmao

@tootsie_ Ай бұрын

This is like your dad sharing his "back in my day" stories.

@Losttael Ай бұрын

"Im not teaming with a Wolf, for money" 😂😂

@jackconrad7851 Ай бұрын

16:57 this chatter brings up a good question...

@Goofzillers Ай бұрын

I thought on FD specifically, Sheik could just use her side b and Ganon had no way to get around it.

@leafofufo3264 Ай бұрын

I saw this video on release, and instantly knew you were making a video

@ruben_re9180 Ай бұрын

Editors did indeed, not skip that.

@DoMorrMusic Ай бұрын

oh yeah I remember tweeting this at Coney

@byrontheusurper6505 Ай бұрын

9:33 ngl that is gorgeous

@ngcf4238 Ай бұрын

Coney & Smash bros name a more iconic duo

@Taenarius Ай бұрын

Oh hey, I saw someone in the comments of that video saying that Coney should watch this, and now here it is, Coney watching it

@kholdseid6614 Ай бұрын

When I saw this video I was hoping Coney would watch it

@itsneek1461 Ай бұрын

was watching this guy yesterday and praying coney saw him lmao

@whitekj03 Ай бұрын

I'm 30 and remember being the youngest at Brawl tournaments back in '09 lol I'm here because I remember Coney all the way back from AllisBrawl. Brawl brings back the memories for sure 😢

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

come back to brawl :D

@lancelee338 Ай бұрын

I was so surprised Coney admitted defeat

@jayde4872 Ай бұрын

5:55 he did snap your neck. I definitely remember because I would grab a lot as Snake because of it.

@kingkunikida1113 Ай бұрын

I was literally praying that coney would react to this, my day has been made better.

@gamerfreakinfoXD Ай бұрын

I love coney because deep down I just feel like he wanted to find a way to play brawl on stream

@Nintendoman1998 Ай бұрын

I thought i saw that Brawl Icies vs Ganondorf was a 100-0 matchup somewhere

@Hoodiebud Ай бұрын

the thumbnail made me temporarily think the title said "This Smash Bros. character will make you kill yourself." which doesn't change much.

@RufioTheThird Ай бұрын

I CALLED IT

@Bloodyknite Ай бұрын

>he doesn’t know how bad it is for ganon KEK

@Hoenn101 Ай бұрын

I think it’s actually probably a brawl ice climber matchup

@drstclair Ай бұрын

I love Coney Brawl videos.

@FireDevBoy Ай бұрын

Coney was Dedede Jesus

@dragocrafterr8286 Ай бұрын

someone referencing mikeneko 9:55 in a coney video is wild

@illford6921 Ай бұрын

so for Coney and anyone else, Air Friction is just ground friction but for the air so it's the parameter that controls how long it takes to come to 0 horizontal velocity in the air. Air Mobility/Acceleration describes how much input affects your velocity in the air

@karatehottie9585 Ай бұрын

Just crazy I saw brawls 2014 list and it’s full of predators

@bucketfullabiscuits7865 Ай бұрын

This brawl channel is so fucking cool I love it

@DMMegsie Ай бұрын

"This guy is wrong!" Proceeds to debunk their own personal theories.. proving the original to be more true.. "Editor!"

@ConnorGrummer Ай бұрын

Never change, Coney

@legendarysoil1064 Ай бұрын

I saw the thumbnail and thought it would be a lazy rehashing of good content, turns out it was just good content.

@Magic_Ice Ай бұрын

I first watched this video when it was less than a thousand views and the first few comments were all saying they wanted coney to see it.

@Crazy56U Ай бұрын

We can finally put Grandpa in the home, let’s go.

@dasnab2231 Ай бұрын

Coney would get air released hahaha I spit my beer out

@splish8869 Ай бұрын

I actually am looking for more brawl content featuring champs like my king brawlpro

@byrontheusurper6505 Ай бұрын

Didn't know melee ganon was mid tier, feels weird for him to be any more than ass

@TheStickCollector Ай бұрын

Interesting. This game feels like a rite of passage for new competitors

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

would love to see more people take it

@DealbreakrJones Ай бұрын

2:40 why did that guy sound like a Baldi's character

@spookyghost9653 Ай бұрын

Yooo coney reacting to brawlternative

@Joepuh Ай бұрын

the worst brawl mu is ganon ice climbers because ganon has literally 0 options to deal with desync blizzard wall

@Lando-My-Love Ай бұрын

How fitting that an ex Brawl Pro now stands to succeed BrawlPro

@NickRiddle Ай бұрын

The actual worst MU is definitely ICs vs. Ganon... Desynch blizzard/uair if he jumps was unbeatable

@shadestrider1033 Ай бұрын

Nah, At least Ganon has some tools in this matchup. He did have Dair and he could utilize flight of Ganon. Marth was so custom built to invalidate Ness’s kit that Ness loses even if he tried to play around Marth’s Grab.

@Hoshiguru Ай бұрын

Whats the name of the first ost?

@SonicTheCutehog Ай бұрын

"Um acktually it can't be THE worst because Lucas has the same problem too 🤓"

@DLAsmash Ай бұрын

Ganon vs ICs is the worst MU in Brawl and it wasn't close. Then MK then Sheik. DDD is absolutely -4. But if he had a normal spot dodge then literally only -2 Love DLA

@anthonygillette Ай бұрын

I just wish you spent more time on Ness’s brawl D-air, it’s completely broken

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

lol.....

@five_6_seven_8 Ай бұрын

The beginning be like Brawl: 😎 SSBB: 😩

@AutisticJesusGaming Ай бұрын

I LOTERALLY WAS JUST HOPINg! You would cover this guy he’s so cool!

@cfino9 Ай бұрын

when you're aware that things like mk ganon is just surface level talk, but are still victim to over generalization of match-ups on smashboards. brawl life is tough, lol