Narcissists actually have a high suicide rate as at their core they hate themselves. I think a lot of people mistake narcissism with like being obsessed with yourself and thinking you’re perfect but it’s actually the opposite. You hate yourself and think you’re the worst and so you have to project that you’re the best and buy the best things and force your children to act like the best children etc that’s where the abuse comes in.

​@@skyrimbarbie5253I think there are two types and one is the insecure depressive type

There are narcissists who hate themselves at their core, but after living with a diagnosed, abusive one, I can assure you that not all of them are like that. I talked to his doctor about his behaviors before I left him, I was really, really wanting our marriage to work, and was told that while some of them can be helped with therapy to learn to basically deal with whatever makes them hate themselves, there are others who truly believe that there is nothing wrong with them, refuse to take responsibility for how they treat others because in their minds, someone else is always wrong. That's why they have to treat you so badly, to make you learn why you're wrong so you'll do it their way. They truly don't care at their core, about anyone but themselves. They can love another person to a point, but they will never love anyone as much as they love,and like, themselves. So with all due respect, because you are right about one side of narcissism, there IS another side to it that is just selfish, mean, and quite frankly, can be very scary.

@juliestrickland7754 yup,that is definitely the other( probably more common type, both being unhealthy for others)

@@CC12398 yes. Both are very unhealthy for others. While I can have some sympathy for someone who hates themselves so much that they feel they have to harm others, whether mentally or physically, it only goes so far because the damage they do to others is far worse than what they do to themselves. Some will argue and say suicide is on par with hurting others because it's basically the worst way you can hurt yourself. But is it, really? When you die, your problems, of whatever type, are over. So in the case of a narcissist, they are free and the people they damaged are still left here to deal with the results of their abuse. Let me be clear that I'm not speaking against someone who kills themselves because of horrible depression, bullying, etc.. I'm speaking specifically about narcissists. Because if my ex ever did it, you can rest assured he would leave a message letting you know exactly whose fault it was, every thing they said and did to cause him to do it, ect.. It would be because he was throwing a fit, wasn't thinking about the fact that he couldn't get out of the consequences of the action, and his last thought would be "This will teach them to..."( Fill in the blank). So in some cases, it's the ultimate act of narcissism.

They can do it for a few reasons. They have convinced themselves that they would all be better off dead than to have to live the rest of their lives in shame because of his failures. They're also able to remove themselves from the violent act since they've become masters of disguising who they are. None of them likely knew much about the person they called father and husband. They've perfected departmentalizing every aspect of their lives so he was able to mentally check out while he was bludgeoning them to death. The fact that he didn't cave his mother's head in like he did everyone else's tells me that his mother is the only one who truly knew who he was. What was left of him, anyway.

Narcissists in particular blame others for their problems, all the horrible things that are inside themselves they project onto other, and they are absolutely full of rage and fury for all the imagined ways they've been wronged.

It's demonic, this mother should have raised her son Christian and this wouldn't have happened to her.

​@albertafarmer8638 😂oh yeah because Christians are soooo much better f

He was just a sick fuck from day 1!

I know right,it's not like serial killers,serial rapists,predators have it written across their foreheads that they are such.Their always nice kind normal people.

Exactly, he was extremely cold and scary - deep down. You never really know a person

He was such a nice, quiet man. A good Christian 😂

​@@jennifermaddy2442Ted Bundy was the model for that I feel like ,so many people questioned his guilt because he was nice looking ,educated and "normal " as many people said during his trial.He was actually getting live letters from women ,some actually in the court room and they gave the letters to his attorneys,just insane .

There's no hate like Christian love.​@@Godless_Doc

Thanks for watching!

@@thisisMONSTERS ALWAYS!

Huh? This was NOT obscure 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

​​​@@6Haunted-Daysthe first comment got 265 likes. You got 2 . Jealous?

I don’t usually like the older cases because they are hard to relate too, but, as always, you told their story in an engaging and interesting way. Thanks for the video ❤❤❤

It happened on the same planet im from.

​@@Obsidian369 Surprised at how childish this response is, are you 5? What's your point? being closer to an event doesn't matter? Think about that for more than 5 seconds and see how dumb it sounds to everyone else...

​@@Obsidian369I'm from planet earth too 🎉

​@@Obsidian369 I can see this may be the truth 😮

I remember this story very well. I live near the University of Maryland & it was covered extensively in the news media. I also recall it being reenacted on America's Most Wanted. Such a heinous crime perpetrated by a man who was upset that he didn't get what he wanted at work!

Psychopath, actually.😔

Ditto, scary!!!

By the way, I read that the windows in the List home were found to be worth a small fortune... he didn't have to kill them.

​@@polarbearsrus6980right. The huge ceiling in the ballroom was Tiffany glass, and worth about a hundred grand.

​@@The_Whimsical_Stenographer Of course, that didn't come to light until AFTER he killed his family. And after the house had burnt down. The irony of it all.

But John list got away with it

Not necessarily I grew up on Roosevelt Street right off of Center Street, right directly behind Suburban hospital where the bishop family home is. It is very well known by generational families here that he was a spy and most likely his family was killed and he got away. He had inside information do you really think the best man would have gone his whole life and they never would have caught him I doubt it. He was a test dummy for the government and everybody in this area knows it. But he's certainly dead today. Things aren't always a simple as some man killing his family what, he had a daughter and they found out about her as this video says her mother was originally a part of the Pagan biker gang which is not even mentioned in this video. He was selling passports documents he got a lot of money selling information to other governments similar to Hanson, but only in a different time. They don't tell you everything in these videos. I've heard more stories that I can tell you over the past 40 years. There's a lot of discrepancies. There's a lot of people have said that there was a look-alike going around town in North Carolina, Motel clerk said the man did not resemble Bishop who bought the pickaxe and Hammer at the hardware store in Bethesda, interesting story but there's more to it he's not a John list. He certainly didn't kill his family to protect them if he did kill them at all. Because you can't go through a house and kill that many people unscathed yourself. No DNA was ever found from anybody else that in itself is also very suspicious. The government can make a lot of things happen. Seriously if they can kill a standing US president in broad daylight. In front of hundreds of people and tell them all they didn't see what they saw what else can they do ?

@@patriciapadilla2022I was wondering about the possibility of something similar happening… but then again it has been so long since this happened which can generate a lot of tall tales. I can’t say for sure either way.

@@patriciapadilla2022Did you live at 5803 Roosevelt Street, by any chance? You might be interested to know it was the childhood home of a sociopath named Ron Pataky. He lived there with his younger brother and parents for less than a year, during World War 2. Please google “ron pataky.” He is a violent psychopath whose longest incarceration was twenty days in jail at age 63. Ron never was prosecuted for a felony. When he was a teen, his parents moved from the DC area to Ohio. They never returned to the DC area, but the facade of the house at 5803 Roosevelt Street in Bethesda looks very much like it did eighty-plus years ago.

I'm so happy to hear you're cancer free. Let's have a better year together!

@@thisisMONSTERS Lookin' forward to it! 💖

Oh honey You've really been through it huh Hope all is well now and you are feeling better I got bit by a lone star tick Gave me a disease called alpha gal. I've also been sick all year. After I found out what was wrong and started eating the right stuff I'm now feeling better😊 Stay safe and sane

Prayers for you lady! You sure are an inspiration to others! Like me!

@AussieBrit I’m so happy that you’re cancer free. Just wanted to say hello & give you some 🖤

Which countries were "dangerous" at the time they were stationed there?

I highly doubt that. Keep in mind that one dog tracked him about 300 yards down one trail before he "disappeared", while another picked up his scent in the information stop and only tracked him as far as the parking lot. My guess is that he did go into that park- but only to that ranger station or whatever it was and then about 300 yards down one trail- before turning around, walking back to the parking area and getting into another car, perhaps one driven by the female companion someone else mentioned seeing him with. While the state and national parks may not have had as many visitors years ago, today, the Smoky Mountains parks is one of the top visited parks in the nation, if not the most visited. That's not to say he couldn't have disappeared in there and never been found- 4 or 5 others have over the years. Many others have been lost but later found, either dead or alive. It's one of the top 5 "deadliest parks" but I think that mostly people who aren't as prepared as they believe they are or try to go off trail or run into bears (in which case, most are found, at least in part).

Why pack a suitcase etc if he was going to off himself

Believe he went one for as long as life allowed.

@@Lena-so2lq I agree with that. For me, at my age, that makes the most sense. It’s also consistent with his psychological state as a narcissist.

He was a vile evil creep.

Thank you so much!

​@@thisisMONSTERSJiles, you just rock. Through and through. Happy New Year to you. Here's to your channel surpassing your wildest, most monstrous dreams. 🎉 🍻

Wow, thank you so much!

Hi friend I'm from the state of VA. In the states Nice to hear your comment I'm part Cherokee. I love to hear the people letting us know who they are and how they feel. Lovely comment Ok Stay safe up there And stay sane in these crazy times we all live in Love and respect from Virginia 😊 ❤🎉❤

Miigwetch for your comment. (Ojibwe for "Thank you") Nice to hear from you. @@lindaarrington9397

If you get into college you have to work your ass off to make the grades 😅 Yale … I can’t even imagine! 😅

Thanks so much!

Hi there I'm in Virginia USA

Believe it, psychopaths live among us.

Agreed. Plus any meddling from the feds is fairly easily explained as covering their own asses.

Overly involved mother? I don't think so. He drained her significant fortune in order to finance his entire life. Everything. He couldn't let her out of his sight. Brad Bishop was a complete failure at every level.

Yes, it's giving John List vibes, very sad case😢

Thanks so much. Happy new year to you as well!

God failed them .

In the time of no internet that would have been as easy as just moving far away enough for nobody to know who you are

His understanding of all those languages and world wide travels helped!!!

He probably tried contacts in his former posts in Africa where the cost of living is lower, changed his identity illegally and moved elsewhere

Personally I'd prefer not to have an endless supply of material but much like rehab facilities you have to keep the cheap drugs coming in for a facility to keep it's doors open.

I’m gonna try to make that happen. Thanks for your support!

@@thisisMONSTERS no problem. You help me get thru my work days with all the work you do. I truly appreciate your work and how seriously you take your craft. Everyone can tell a story but to be able to keep ppl coming back is an tru gift. I appreciate you sharing your gift with us.

Tarantino. Yup.

evil tarantino

D.b.cooper. bradley cooper?

He does indeed 😅

I was saying the same thing!!! Except John was dumb enough to not change his appearance. This guy prob put all his training into play with his escape. We’re on the same wavelength my dear

I could not help but think of John List, another family anihilator, who remained on the run for many years before he was nabbed by law enforcement.

When I was a kid, America's Most Wanted did a profile of John List and the music they played to show the classical music he left playing in the house when he left after he killed his entire family and the scary nature of what he did terrified me. I can t remember exactly how old I was. I'm guess between 7-9 years old. Just hearing about a father who killed his own mother, wife and children was a concept I had never even thought about before at that time. Up until that point, to me a family consisted of people who loved each other and wouldn't do anything to hurt one another. I was confused and terrified. On the show, they recreated what they believed he would look like at that time with a life-like bust of him and that thing was terrifying to see. It must have been accurate because I think he was caught shortly after the second time that particular episode aired and the person who turned him in said that she had seen the episode and recognized him from the America's Most Wanted profile. This case is extremely similar. I hate thinking of the possibility that he lived a very long life after that and may possibly be deceased without ever being brought to justice for these horrible crimes. Shame, shame, shame!!

I think that family annihilators share certain characteristics and that studies should be conducted to identify risk factors. I note many of them, like List, experience failure that they hide from their loved ones, tend to be extremely conventional, and are financially dependent on their mother. In the 1950's, an Ivy League degree was a gold ticket to success. Brad, therefore, was not achieving the success many of his peers were experiencing,@@beautifulsurprise9424

I just said the very same 😢

Yeah, I don’t think I would like any part of my body pulpified, especially not my brain.

Especially in regards to a child. 😭🤬😳

You almost worded this all wrong but you redeemed yourself 😂😂😂 Don't feel bad all of Monsters know what you mean.

@@user-qm2li8zx2d Haha! I tried!

@@FLo-jc7ig You seem like the sensitive type.

Honey don't sweat those ugly troll comments I think your comment was very good and I agree😊

@@lindaarrington9397 🤓

Thanks!

Everything has been great. Thanks for asking. You have a great new year as well!

I’m happy everything is going good for you. May God bless you and your family.🙏🏼

Thanks. I'll check it out!

Great suggestion! I'm hours late to the party, but I strongly second this request!

Thanks! I narrate from a script so it’s not that hard to upload it into KZfaq. I bought an app that I use to generate CCs for other video clips that is way more accurate than YT and then it only takes a few minutes to make any minor corrections to those. I’m glad I can help. Thanks for watching!

That’s definitely an interesting case. It’s been a while since I’ve seen anyone with talent cover it. It would be a great case for Monsters to cover.

Robert Marshall would be another one too.

I shall forever believe that MacDonald’s family was murdered, and that he was framed for it, because he refused to go along with having drugs shipped back to the USA in the bodies of dead soldiers. I believe Helena Stoeckley (sp?) and Ted Gunderson.

I believe he did a series on family annihilators a while back

Thankyou I'm going to look up the two cases this thread has mentioned. There's a family annihilator case from Australia from 1950s or 1960s where the father killed his entire family, which was his wife & kids. I'm positive it happened in Melbourne, Victoria. He was caught, convicted & was then released from prison after a considerably short sentence compared to the horrific crime he committed. He was released from prison with a complete new identity.

Thanks so much!

@@thisisMONSTERS 🤩💕. Fan girl-ing it right now! 🙃🤭🤣

Thanks so much. Same to you!

lol same … I was wondering if I was the only one who did that… bc you already know it’s gonna be good!

Me three 😂

Thanks so much to all of you!

Me four!!

me five :D

Thanks so much for watching!

@@thisisMONSTERS I'm always watching 👀🥸🕵️‍♂️👤😅

He was born in ‘36. So, he’d have been 44-45 in ‘80. Severe mental illness could account for advanced aging, perhaps??

Bonne Annee! From south Louisiana

I know I have heard most of his cases but Jiles seems to have info I've never heard or was new 2 me This cases I haven't heard about Haven't seen it on any other channel so I feel I got the best that's put on utube as first time😊

Same to you!

No, thank you!

Right back at ya Sally ! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU! From another Monster viewer. 🇺🇲

happy new year, Sally, and greetings from Germany ;)

Agree. Back then you could just disappear. Why not just abandon your family?

@tonyahinrichs8828 I suppose the same could be said for the likes of John list, Chris Watts and many others. It's that selfish attitude of I don't want my family but nobody can have them, I get to decide whether they live or die as they are just extensions of myself.

He was suffering

@@rocksanne58 I was thinking maybe about being in the closet (don't think I'm buying into the mkultra theory)

If you’re curious about psychology, you can look into the commonalities of family annihilators. Unfortunately this happens enough for it to have its own label.

@@pr0cessa I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about!

@@rocksanne58 I meant maybe (among other things) brad was struggling with sexual orientation or gender identity, something like that in a time when it wasn't acceptable in society. MKULTRA, I was referring to the theory presented in the video, that brad was one of the CIA operatives or others involved, who were subjected voluntary or involuntary to LSD and other drugs as a sort of human experiment

Thank you. Is it slightly concerning that the pronunciation of 'vague' is more disturbing to me than any crimes discussed in the video? Probably I'm just glad that someone else mentioned it first.

Bon Matin!

Thanks so much!

@@thisisMONSTERS you’re welcome!

Honestly.... Good for you!

It could just be that there are certain cases that are really hard to get through and that’s okay!

​@@Sarah-re7cgagree some are hard for me to stomic 2.

It’s not I SEEN. ITS I SAW please take this as a friendly correction.

@@lsimon343 bro most people know that is just lingo so you’re coming around here telling people to correct something that they know is wrong in the 1st place

@@lsimon343 I think that is correct.

I guess that makes sinse(lol) as I speak it.

So when is seen supposed to use? Use it in a sentence. Ty