Reva: Where were you when my family was killed??? Obi Wan: Killing a pivotal member of the Separatists, getting stabbed in the back, falling to my death, almost drowning, having to Metal Gear my way out of enemy territory, resorting to stealing the ship of my enemy and having to go on the run almost immediately, not to mention having to bear the weight of my best friend turning evil and having to put him down. Reva: Well, you still have to apologize anyway! >:(

Vader didn't even use a lightsaber at first when Reva attacked him. This alone shows that ALL inquisitors are just pawns of the Sith.

The events that will lead Reva to Luke are legitimately some of the most contrived circumstances I've ever seen in star wars. It relied on Reva meeting Owen, Bail sending that message, Obi Wan not deleting that message, Obi Wan giving the message to Haja, Haja dropping it, Reva finding it, and Reva surviving. All of those things taken separately are contrivances, but putting them together is just, wow.

The part that bothered me is that Vader or at the very least the inquisitor didn’t finish her off, I felt Vader definitely would have killed her, especially after watching the flashback when he anakin talks bout mercy

It was most unwise for Bail to send that message…Firstly, he doesn’t know who is listening and secondly he gave way too much details!! He could have just asked if the “mission” was successful and he will do everything he can to help. Better yet, don’t send the message at all. I cannot believe someone who’s involved in politics and intrigue can be so lacking in judgment…

Like the sequels, the show has wasted the opportunity of bringing Hayden and Ewan back. Each episode should have had a flashback that showcased the relationship between Obi-wan and Anakin at different points before Anakin's fall. In addition, the show still suffers from writing issues and no sense of logic in many moments. It seems like every episode you can tear apart the story and the situations the characters find themselves in and it's really frustrating to watch. Overall it has been a very disappointing show. One more episode to go. Let's get this over with.

As I expected, Reva's motives make no sense. She saw that Vader killed her friends, therefore...she is angry at Obi-Wan who trained him for not saving her? (Why didn't he just say "I was on Utapau, attacked by clones"?) And therefore she serves Vader, hunts all remaining Jedi, tries to kill them, chops hands off and tortures a child to find the Rebels? She is a horrible person and I cheered when she was stabbed...but then she lived.

I always felt that going out of their way to "fix" inconsistencies always made them worse. In my mind after seeing Revenge of the Sith, I reinterpret the line in A New Hope as Vader saying he was just starting to learn the dark side and now he has mastered it. The inconsistencies between the Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy are for the most part inconsequential and can be explained away with "from a certain point of view", I think the only one that can't be explained away is Leia saying she remembered Padme.

This episode was an example of the problems with this show as a whole: great moments undercut by terrible ones.

The flashbacks with Anakin and Obi-Wan sparring with each other was pretty dope, even though Hayden Christensen looks kinda older in his Episode ll prime, but still. Good to see him again. I had alot of TFU vibes with Darth Vader force pulling a ship and ripping it to shreds. It was quite satisfying to watch Reva getting owned by Darth Vader, but I think he should've either snapped her neck or decapitate her the same way he did with Count Dooku. While this episode did had flaws, but It was honestly way better than last weekends episode. I'm so nervous about next week's final episode. "Somehow Grand Inquisitor returned."

You're not being overly picky or critical, at all. This is the kindest review of this episode/series that I've seen by far.

Episode 6 prediction: Owen, left for dead with a lightsaber wound to the stomach, lies apart from a three way standoff between Vader, Kenobi, and Reva. In the balance, Luke Skywalker and the fate of the galaxy. The tension crescendos when suddenly…Beru parkours into the fray! With a blue milk blaster in each hand, she douses Vader until drowning and then turns her motherly smile toward Reva. “Child” she says, “come in from the heat and come down from your hate. Return to the light” Reva begins to cry and lets go of the dark side as she’s gently lead into the home. Ben, hears his name from Owen and rushes to his side. With painful breath Owen tells him “You really screwed the bantha, didn’t you, Ben”. All as Luke lies fast asleep in his bed.

It was amazing seeing Hayden again! Even though I wish they had used CGI to make him look 19.

Seeing Vader toy with Reva so effortlessly only using the force was so satisfying with how awfull that character is, but was let down that he did not count dooku her, the dual sabers made me expect it, but good lord i can never take stormtroopers seriously again a billion troopers missed hitting a bunch of rebels in a tight corridor, wtf, and so much for purgetroopers they are useless here.

I considered since the very first episode the Bail Organa Plot Hole, how stupid would have been not following him or tracking his communications once Leía was kidnapped. And still he literally just shows up at Kenobi’s home out of nowhere. I mean, how come Reva have the resources to kidnap a princess in her own garden, but not the means to spy on her father and just wait until someone shows up?

I get that Reva is probably sticking around potentially even past the last episode but Darth Vader not straight up beheading her like Dooku seemed way too merciful for someone who just helped Obi-Wan get away. It also makes no sense how they used Reva since Vader easily could have ended things on Mapuzo and they haven’t really made it seem like Vader purposely let him get away. I’m also bored of the villain becoming or secretly being good trope in Star Wars. This series is deeply flawed fan service can’t repair the glaring plot holes and inconsistencies. Maybe I have boring tastes but I would have been happy with a series where it’s a character study with Obi-Wan mostly learning from Qui-Gon. Maybe even fighting some inquisitors or some other threat without facing Vader directly. Overall I enjoyed this episode but the series hasn’t justified its existence and I’m not sure it will.

I'm pretty sure no one was sad about Tala. We're still mourning Wade.

If Reva had actually died right there, I’m NOT EVEN GONNA LIE IT WOULD HAVE TOTALLY MADE ME ENJOY HER CHARACTER SOOOO MUCH MORE IN THE PREVIOUS EPISODES 😂😂😂😅 so many amazing scenes… yet so much bad writing…

Honest it's disappointing that the show clearly has potential but it's held back with the writing. It's a shame that with good writing this could be a very memorable show. I don't know if the writers are holding the show back or the Disney execs with rigid timelines.

My favorite part is when Roken tells Obi the hyperdrive doesn't work meaning they're basically all going to die and Obi, after having a force brain freeze just ends the conversation by saying "Thank you"

So Reva, left for dead, discovers a broken communicator, hears a garbled message and, with her last ounce of strength thinks: better get to Tatooine. Sigh.

Anakin: “Your weapon is gone. It’s over.” Months later Anakin loses lightsaber in AotC Obi-Wan: “This weapon is your life.”

Funny how Obi-Wan is like "he knows I'll do anything to protect this people", when the last time they met he fled twice, and, before that, he tried to lure him out by snapping kid's necks and Obi-Wan stayed hidden... It's like the writers don't even care about their own canon. And Reva surviving a lightsaber going through her as a kid? Nah-huh. Then she survives again because they decide to leave. Come on...

when Obi-wan said "Until you master it, a Padawan you will be." I interpreted it to mean that until Anakin masters his own impulses, he will always be subservient and therefore will never be the master of himself.

You're right, Thor: In many ways, it was one of the better episodes, but, at the same time, still wildly flawed.

It was great seeing Hayden again.

Yup you nailed it man. I just finished the episode. And I had to rewind when that second ship took off. I was like wtf did I blink and miss something. Oh nope they pulled a rise of skywalker and had a second hidden ship like with chewy dying. I hate bait and switches it was silly. And the lightsaber to open the door was my first instinct lol like duh. Then the troopers walk slowly forward and just die. They miss every shot. Except when they are literally 1ft away. It’s insane. I mean I know they are bad shots but how is it even possible to miss all those targets. They where just standing in a hallway with no cover. I get the stormtroopers had no cover but that’s cus they have armor on. Which does nothing. Or maybe they are just knocked unconscious but man that was hard to watch

also, did Obi-Wan and Reva use the force to speak through the wall or something? Is that a new power the force has? Or did her whole platoon hear her confession??

If they had gone through with Killing Reva and she’s confirmed Dead, would have raised it 20 points

I’m actually fine with the grand inquisitor surviving the stomach stab, his species has two stomachs and with his force abilities I think that’s an acceptable justification. However Reva is presumably human, unless she has a modded stomach i don’t think she should survive.

Honestly it's the best episode so far just because of the flashback in my opinion. It was fun to watch but dear Lord the continuity errors are soo bad in this series, and they seem to get worse and worse by each episode. Bad show, but good precious flashback with Hayden and Ewan. I agree with you mate ;)

I loved how powerful Vader was in this episode. Some good interactions between Reva, Vader and Ben. Leia fixing the doors, ehh, sure. The imperial officer and robot dying together like they were lovers was… Anyway, I liked it. Overall a much more fun and action episode but good action not just pointless chase scenes or rooftop floating. Only wish they had made anakin in the flashbacks from the clone wars so he fits looking a bit older and war torn to show he still after all that time didn’t really learn those lessons possibly because he was thrust into a war and didn’t have time to.

It's crazy how your reviews almost always hit on all the exact same things I enjoy or hate about a show or movie. It's nice to follow someone with such similar tastes to me.

A couple questions about Bail Organa's message: first, how did he know that the Empire was involved with Leia's kidnapping and not random criminals? I might just be forgetting, but where in the story did Kenobi tell him that? I thought they hadn't talked at all since Part 1. Second, he straight-up knows who Vader is, not to mention he's alive, but apparently he never told Kenobi that lol. Makes sense for Bail Organa to have this knowledge because he is a senator, but it's just funny to me that he never thought to mention it to Kenobi all those years.

I loved this episode and this just makes me really wish we got an Obi-Wan movie. Obi-Wan deserves a bigger budget and a tighter, well refined script to take everything up a notch. I’d love to see some of these new environments on a grander scale also.

I appreciate that you keep it real and call out the dumb stuff, Thor. We want star wars to be good star wars. Not just to exist. Also. Why on EARTH would Vader not just kill Reva? Seriously? Super out of character just to preserve Disney's precious new character.

Despite some of the cool stuff, notably the long overdue flashback, there are still so many plot contrivances and poor writing decisions that have been increasingly popping up since the first episode. Vader watching the second ship just fly away. Reva not using the ships flying away as the perfect distraction to stand a chance at striking Vader which would explain how he could let the ship get away. Reva surviving a stab wound like the Grand Inquisitor did and Vader leaving her alive. Kenobi giving the hologram to Haja so he can drop it so we can drag out the Reva plot till the final episode. Wish I could love this series but I’m not really expecting much now. If I want Kenobi post ROTS, I’ll stick to Twin Suns from Rebels. If I want a female Inquisitor story with a surviving Jedi confronting the trauma of Order 66 and Vader I’ll stick to Jedi: Fallen Order.

You are right about Bill organa. The reason they split the twins up at the end of our OTS is so that they don’t lead to one another. This is why Obi-Wan goes to the desert alone. When they brought Leia in it ruined all of that. We’re seeing the repercussions now of that plot hole.

Are we actually supposed to be scared for Luke at the end of this? We know that literally nothing can happen to him. And nothing can happen to Owen or Beru. What are the stakes here?? I loved individual scenes in this episode (and throughout the others), but I’m finding it hard to get invested in the series as a whole because there’s nothing at stake. They’re not giving me a reason to care. I was so hoping this series would be more about Obi-Wan’s force journey with Qui-gon, but of course, we are once again disappointed by Disney Star Wars.

I feel like the scene with Vader pulling the ship was meant to show how fast he acted on grabbing the first ship he seen without analyzing or using his senses. I think that's what the flashbacks are meant to coincide with as well.

I think you just summed it up for me, I've been mulling the episode and couldn't get what I thought in order, you nailed it with the best and worst episode.. Don't get me started on Bale Organa, wtf was he thinking lmao just send it to Vader next time and cut out the middle man.

"Dammit, Ben, I'm a princess, not an electrician!"

Vader’s desire to prove himself shows up when he insists on going after Kenobi alone, no reinforcements. Instead of doing something like ordering Reva and the troops to bring Kenobi out to him.

This series implement's Kenobi's 3rd law: for every good moment there is an equal and opposite bad moment.

Vader vs Reva was magnificent. The fact that he doesn't even draw his lightsaber is so badass. The rest of it was pretty bad. Reva could have been a genuinely great character if they had handled her differently the rest of the series. Honestly, a series from her perspective, infiltrating the ranks of the inquisitors with the intention of killing Vader. That could have been really cool.

I have to admit, I actually got distracted with the cool parts of the episode, I really enjoyed it. However, just as you point out, many things don't really add up if you take your time to look at it. I think I'm still kind of disappointed that the show only started to become really enjoyable until this episode and that, at least so far, it could have been so much better than how it is. (Thumbs up for the flashback though)

The Padawan Anakin flashbacks were the best part of the series so far, and even those were kind of meh. What're you trying to tell us, that Anakin is prideful and headstrong and blinded by his own desire to win? I'm pretty sure his first fight with Dooku and the entirety of Clone Wars showed us this already and did a better job of it. Which just made this whole sequence feel like pointless memberberries.

I don't know man... "I had to hide amongst the bodies as they went cold." And somehow, one of the most force sensitive beings in the galaxy (Anakin/Vader) couldn't sense another force sensitive still alive amongst the dead? His motivation was Padmé, and the purpose for executing the order was to become powerful enough to save her. I don't think Anakin was letting ANYONE out of that temple unless they legitimately escaped. Edit: and then let her live again after her betrayal. That alone was my biggest issue with the episode. There is legitimately nothing formally logical about any of this.

That title perfectly describes this episode

So what I’ve said from the very beginning of this show… when Obi wan left Tatooine… the show failed and is a complete shit show. Obi wan left Tatooine. The only way that works is IF HE DOESNT GET SPOTTED. This is not Obi wan. This is not a Star Wars show. These writers are 10 years old and they think “Star Wars is all about laser swords .” And the only way that this show makes sense is if they have a neuralyzer from MIB…

regardless of my thoughts of the episode. I have to give Talla a shout out for eating that thermal detonator, that's 10d6 damage with no armor and a strength stat of 2 or 3d6 to soak. definitely would have earned a force point or two if she lived.

This series is one entire movie so I think that’s were getting episodes. I remember Lucas saying a long time ago that the original movies are all meant to be watched in order as one giant movie. So I’m ok with what they’re doing here. Some parts of a movie will be slow, while others will be super important to the story so I’m ok with the approach of this.

The line 'I was but the learner' in A New Hope I took to be Vader referring to his mastery of the Dark Side of the Force.

Man I don’t wanna lower my expectations towards Star Wars to an DCEU level to still enjoy it. I need good stories and not only memberberies and some what good CGI.

I think you missed the point that Anakin was showing those first symptoms of darksideness, and they both Obi-Wan and him recalls that same moment that Anakin treasures with rage, beyond the point of being brothers afterwards. That's the main plot of this episode.

I really appreciate your videos and the analyzing and breakdowns that you do. That being said I think what people sometimes forget is that it's easy to sit back and think about what should have, could have or they would have done, but if you've never been in combat or something like that there are many many things that you don't notice and when you have an overview of the entire situation it's easy to pick apart and say they should have done this or should have done that. But I can tell you from combat experience it's never like that. You don't have an overview of the entire situation and I think people need to stop and think about things like that when they're criticizing! Keep up the great work and I appreciate your videos and what you do and enjoy watching them

Spoiler. Is nobody going to talk about on how Reva was having a weird flashback of Anakin stabbing her when Darth Vader stabbed her? Like what was the point of that? Was she stabbed in the past and in the future as well and survived the past? Like you said, surviving stomach stabs is a normal thing? I was very confused on what the meaning behind the flashback stab was as she said she was hiding amongst the dead. If she was stabbed, how was... you know what? I'm giving this more thought than the writers. Screw this.

This show has been ok and sadly that's not enough to keep me invested in star wars. Hayden's performance was great and Ewan has been killing the acting, actually everything about the show except the continuity, the story and the the inquistors has been good. But getting Obi-Wan and the story right was the most important thing here, one of which they succeeded in at a decent leven and the other one just not.

After loving Star Wars for 27 years, i think this series kill any little hope i had for good stories, the reservoir of trust is fully depleted, i wanted to like it but they clearly don't care to write smart stories, so why would i care.

You forgot the fact that Reva and Obi Wan were openly speaking about treason with stormtroopers only like a few feet away. Fix for that is, Obi taunts her, she gets up close in his face, then they talk. It's better than what we got. Overall Reva was better this episode but I really hope those rumors of them making a Reva show are false. There's no way they would have just let her live like that.

6:08 I think the point they were going for was that as Anakin was so hyper focused on victory that he couldn't see the bigger picture, Vader was so hyper-focused on capturing Obi-Wan that he too missed the bigger picture of Kenobi and his allies' plan for escape. True, others would have fallen for this trap too, but Vader's strategic prowess and sensitivity in the force towards the presence of others would often let him see traps like this coming ahead of time. But because his blind rage against Kenobi was all he could see, he fell for their trap and was fooled. He's making the same mistakes Anakin once did. He is still in many ways the learner.

VADER HAD TWO SABERS FOR A MOMENT JUST LIKE HIS PADAWAN, HE LOOKED OUT INTO HYPERSPACE IN THE SAME FRAMED SHOT AS HIS PADAWAN, AND HELD THE SHIP IN PLACE JUST LIKE HIS PADAWAN NO I WILL NOT SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Also yes the flashback does perfectly explain how Vader/Anakin always thought: victory over any cost. It's why he lost on Mustafar, it's why he lost Kenobi now. Vader was so intent on the thing in front of him, he lost sight of his surroundings. It's why he nearly lost Ahsoka Tano during the Wrong Jedi arc; he was so focused on trying to find Ahsoka, when she escaped, instead of trying to find the real culprit, that if things had gone real south real fast, Ahsoka could've ended up dead because of his narrow mind set. And it's why he wasn't able to kill Ahsoka during their duel at the pyramid. Yes Ezra pulled her aside, but he didn't realize his surroundings until Ahsoka stabbed the unstable ground with her sabers, he reacted instinctively to decapitate her, but was too late. And it's why he cut off Luke's hand, it's why he nearly lost his son all together, all of Anakin's actions can essentially be explained with that single sentence.

Did anyone else feel like the whole Leia in the craw hole trying to open the hanger door took waaaaay longer than it should have? I mean I didn't time it, but it sure felt like she was in there half the episode.

Hate to break it to you Thor but Bail, and his family should already be in trouble with the empire. In episode 2 Reva tells the grand inquisitor that she found in some records that during the clone wars Bail and Kenobi were connected, and she kidnapped Leia to try and lure Kenobi out..... and it works this alone should implicate Bail as a Jedi sympathizer and traitor to the empire. Yet we know that both Bail and Leia are members of the imperial Senate during a new hope. This just makes Bail look even more stupid when you think his reasoning for sending Kenobi to rescue Leia was to keep her secret safe.

This series had far, far too low a budget to compensate for a script lacking as it was. Usually, you compensate for lack of substance with extra flash. I wonder if the studio knew it was going to be a stinker and hobbled the money they were willing to sink into it. I mean, wow, but did it show it's low budget, time and time again.

Thor - as usual I agree with your take on this episode. Two questions or issues I didn't really see you cover: 1) do you accept that Reva merely being present at the temple during Order 66 would mean that she knows that Anakin is Darth Vader?; 2) do you accept that Vader would just leave Reva there without ensuring she is dead?

I agree that there were some problems with this episode like Organas message, but I believe that the storm trooper scene was Reva on purpose allowing Kenobi escape to go help with the ships without looking suspicious and later allowing her to "sneak" up on Vader. As it was implied that she switched sides after Kenobi mentioned the families back there. The part about Leah fixing the door also seems a bit nit- picky since it was implied that she needed to check one specific breaker, which seems reasonable to me especially considering that the droid helped at the end. One thing I don't really like about this episode is the entire thing about Vader having planned everything out, don't get me wrong it's really cool but to me it just seems a bit vague like what was the exact plan he had? Why did they need Reva? Like Vader is ruthless enough to kidnap a child to lure out someone. Also how long has the plan been in the works? Since order 66 in the temple where he led Reva live? Or only since the start of the series? It just doesn't seem very fleshed out to me, but there might be some room in ep. 6 for this to be explained a bit more.

I didn’t even think they tried de-aging Hayden. I just figured he wanted to actually play a role without the suit or without CGI facially. And Deborah Chow was probably like “yeah you know what, I’ll let you do it, who gives a shit? It’s been 17 years, you deserve this!”.

Finished the episode and immediately thought to myself, “wow this was a pretty good one, prob the best episode so far.” Then started watching reviews from KZfaq channels and thought, “wow this is apparently the worse episode in all of star wars I guess.”

Blind spectacles over good writing and logical storytelling is the Disney way and it's quite frankly disturbing how people can accept such terrible writing. Cool spectacles with weak substance indeed 🤷

Bail Organa's message was the most stupid action within the framework of Obi-Wan's plot to protect Luke. I don't understand why the writers keep doing those mistakes which undermine the plot of the series itself. I think the writers have not (yet) turned on their brains.

A stormtrooper covered in armor 1977-2022: *dies in one shot* A Rebel 2022: *that has been shot* sits down for a minute, perfectly shoots a blast door panel to save everyone, activates a thermal detonator while surrounded by stormtroopers who can't look down.

This is the Rise of Skywalker levels of stupid when it comes to tactics and storyline. Great moments strung together by terrible writing. Book of Boba Fett had pacing issues, but at least it made sense and no one did anything uncharacteristically stupid. Tactics in it are still terrible, but to Boba's credit, he doesn't have much experience leading an army.

I used to watch movies and shows with basically my brain turned off, allowing me to fully enjoy the content without noticing any small and "medium-sized" issues. Nowadays I can't really do that anymore, I see myself noticing small things that are clearly or not-so-clearly out of place, which leads to disappointment. I've been a fan of Star Wars since I was a kid, and I really want to enjoy Kenobi - practically my last hope for the whole SW universe to keep going - but many of the series' issues are in the way. Putting them aside, this episode had many cool and enjoyable moments, I'm just unable to forget about stormtroopers being the "best" stormtroopers, second ship taking off and flying away way faster than the first one, and the whole Bail problem

I really questioned some of the creative choices made in this series why on Earth wouldn't Reva attack Vader when he was using the force on the ship he was totally distracted and the writers could have used the Reva attack as a moment to distract Vader so the ship could get away. Not have an entirely empty ship just waiting for him. Man that was stupid. The writers could have had a moment where Obi-one uses the force to attack Anakin from behind to win the past match and he remembers that moment just in time to block Revas attack from behind but having to let the ship go. Completing the cycle. Vader whooping her without even taking out his lightsaber was a nice touch though. Like somebody else already commented tons of Great Moments and other moments that just leave me scratching my head

While canon inconsistencies really bother me, he’s complaining about the empire being dumb, while in ROTJ they are literally defeated by teddy bears with logs. IT IS NOT THAT SERIOUS.

As others have pointed out this whole making child Leia so over the top awesome is ridiculous. Anakin was shown to have failed many times in pod racing prior to his first win. This is in spite of him having the highest midicholrian count ever. Leia is being treated like Rey, her failure is being too good.

Honestly for the first 4 episode I was on the side of: "Give it time, its not as bad as you think, there's still potential"... Now however I can't lie to myself anymore, the show has been really mediocre and failed to convice me it deserved to exist. The story is laughable at part and the visual and set looks cheap. Looking back this show made more confuse and frustrated than anything

"I know we said no communication but your silence is killing me" WHAT!?!?

Vader: Could he mean old Uncle Owen, a sassy water farmer that lives on Tatooine.

I disagree 100%!

Why on earth did Reva not attack Vader while he was pulling the ship down?!

So here's my theory. SPOILERS BELOW THIS POINT. this story was originally written to have taken place within 6 months to a year after the revenge of the sith and was changed to account for how older ewan mcgregor looks. If you place the events of the story shortly after a lot of the issues people had with this series are either better or make more sence. 1. Obi-Wan is a shadow of his formal self. Basically nothing we think about when we think of a Jedi. Well within the 1st year you would expect him to be a lot more depressed, defeated. Plus shortly after order 66 Jedi's would be hunted which he would have to cut himself off from the force which also add to his depression maybe even guilt or resentment for the situation. 2. Taking Princess Leia as a baby clears up any of the issues about her remembering him or any of those questions about their relationship in episode 4. 3. senator bail organa going to Obi-Wan. A year after the revenge of the sith, they would still be sticking to a lie about who and where Princess Leia came from and wouldn't want people to dig any deeper and they would have hid the kidnapping entirely and Obi-Wan would have had no choice but to leave Luke and go after her. 4. Reva- is a former jedi that assumes Anakin is now Vader based on the display of power with the force, and the legend of Anakin. But it really doesn't matter because who ever it is they have to die and Is so blinded by the hate or sense of duty that even if it means getting Kenobi killed to get close enough to vader its worth it. Also as a Jedi she would have been trained explaining her skill with the force and not a mary sue.

So they knew Vader would come in and catch the decoy ship just in time and force full it down... Then would not be quick enough to grab the 2nd ship (or sense Obi-Wan on it)?? Jeez thats some quick thinking there. What a plan! omg horrible. So Vader did not notice or hear the second ship starting up?? Who was even on the decoy ship?? Where was Reva while he was doing all this? Surely the backstab timing was when he was force pulling the ship... :((( OMG HORRIBLE. Vader was happy to sit back and let Reva handle the situation from orbit, yet he knew she was not loyal and was still prepared to risk Obi-Wan potentially getting away?? omg horrible. And that whole fight where the storm troopers come through the doors after Reva just walks up and opens the 4" thick door with the light saber was some of the worst choreography I've seen. The storm troopers were just not moving froward. They were walking in slow motion and seemingly not ever closing the gap. It was one of the worst Star Wars scenes I have seen. Damn, like I would never pay for a Disney Subscription (borrowed a friends login), but I really don't understand ANY of you who give Disney money.. The level of content they produce is hilarious.

Why was Anakin so aggressive during training? Did he just have a bad day?

Some decent moments in this episode for sure but that Bail message was symptomatic of the writing problems this series has. Why did Bail Organa send such a compromising message to Obi-Wan, and why did Obi-Wan leave the communicator he'd just received that message on with some fella? Because the plot demanded it.

Firstly, Vader's message never made sense literally. "When I left I was but the learner, now I am the Master." He wasn't LITERALLY a padawan learner in Revenge of the Sith. He must of meant - I was the rookie Jedi Knight, but now (A New Hope Era) I have a TON more experience. As much experience as you my old Master. Second, you need to stop thinking about why YOU think characters actions are DUMB, and consider WHY the Characters think their actions are Smart. Bail Organa realizes that if Obiwan is captured, so is Leia. Being a child, Leia will blab about her dad. That means Bail's position has been compromised, too. It would be simplest to run for his life, but since he endangered Obiwan by making him take on this mission, then he's going to take up Obiwan's mission to protect the boy. Bail is gonna use the last bits of his connections as a Senator to disappear beyond the Outer Rim. He had to tell Obiwan, in case somehow Obiwan got out and went looking for Luke. Bail was an ally of the Jedi, so he probably believes that if it's meant to be, the Force will be on their side. Bail might have some old Jedi texts from the Clone Wars era, that he thinks he's got the basis to at least get Luke started on the ways of the Force. Or, again, if it's meant to be, The Force will lead them to another master beyond the Outer Rim. Yes, if was dumb of him to blab about Tattooien and the Owen farm, but sometimes you just blab things without thinking when you're in a hurry.

The "Now I am The master" line from ANH was re-conned to refer to Anakin being denied the title of Master and told to take a seat by Mace Windu.

I liked this one WAY more than any of the previous episodes. If the final episode is on par with this, the show will have redeemed itself to me.

Watching this at 2am I thought wow this is amazing. Watching this again after I woke up I thought it was laughably bad with sprinkles of fan service. There were lots of great moments for sure, especially seeing Hayden back. I'm happy they didn't de age him because then we see his face and all his mannerisms that the tech can't pick up on. Vader was pretty sick in this episode too, the fight choreography matching bits of vader/luke and anakin/obi in rots was coo. There shouldve more flashbacks especially to clone wars in the beginning of the show but heres a small list of things I found annoying -stormtroopers are hilariously incompetent - so is the empire -how did reva survive exactly? It looked like she got stabbed in the flashback? -bales message. I don't even know what to say about that -leia fixing wires for the whole episode basically - the GI saying "Revenge does wonders for the will to live doesn't it" then he proceeds to leave her there with a stab wound and nothing but her revenge and her will to live to keep her alive and he just hope she bleeds out and dies. That to me was even stupider than bails message. Still no qui gon, still no Yoda. This show stinks and has little to no rewatchability. Thanks disney One final thing I'll say is it's nice seeing fans actually stand up and say this show stinks. Not just on KZfaq which usually is 'negative' but Twitter too. First time I've seen a consensus on Twitter say the overall show is not good enough which is somewhat refreshing to see.

I was laughing my balls off when Vader force grabbed the huge escaping shuttle (from fifty feet away, 40 feet off the ground and the thrusters were engaged) and then held it until the engine malfunctioned, pulling it to the ground and ripping the fuselage off it in two huge clumps yet in Disney/Lucasfilm's own creation Rogue One he didn't even attempt to stop the Tantive IV as it escaped him from Scarif. This is approximately eight years later and we can automatically assume Vader is much stronger with the darkside of the force considering how he tore through the hallway of the disabled rebel frigate like he was set on God Mode.

Great points made here Thor, you addressed the glaring issues while also giving light to all the cool shtuff too! A few things I would add, :SPOILERS: Reva's arch and Tana's fate both should have occurred a bit earlier in story. The lose of Tana alongside Wade could have added more gravity to their escape in episode4 while Reva's reveal would give room to more complexity for her character if brought on earlier in the series. Looking forward to how this first season wraps up, and will keep up with your commentary!!

I loved it when Vader walked into the hangar and just easily stopped the ship and threw it down. And then proceeded to easily beat Reva with little to no effort. It was so bad ass. But am I missing something? Where did the other transport come from? Did they mention there were 2 and I just didn’t hear it? And why did he just leave Reva on the ground??? It’s so obvious she’s gonna survive this (for a second time) just like the grand inquisitor and maul which makes Qui Gons death look silly now…..

I enjoyed seeing anakin as a padawan with obi wan the most.

Which episode was everyone's favorite and least favorite so far?

Am I the only one that noticed how dead coruscant looks in the background? Like seriously theres a trillion people on that planet at a time. Were they all just asleep? Or did someone at Disney say "hey. You know what everyones gonna be so focused on obi wan and Anakin that we can probably make it a bit cheaper!"

Their flashbacks would've been better (more believable) if placed closer to rots rather than (pre?) AOTC.. At least from my point of view, still good to see though..

For me, the production value of the entire hangar area was so low that it pulled me out of the story too much to really enjoy the cool parts. It just felt and looked like a big flat soundstage with sand on the floor. The utterly unconvincing cannon shooting squibs at the door was hilarious. Blaster rifles could've done that much damage. Lifeless battle choreography with the stormtroopers walking in slow straight lines was cringeworthy as well.

It’s getting to the point where more Jedi survived Order 66 than died in it

How can something that's already ROTTON get "spoiled"?