The thing about this series is that it seems like someone with a cursory knowledge of Star Wars wrote it (which is exactly what happened). The two minutes between Hayden and Ewen were beautiful. We needed more of that and more MEANINGFUL dialogue between the too.

Owen, Beru and Luke are the only characters that got out of this series not only unscathed but in a better position than before. The characterization of Owen especially makes him a much more sympathetic character in A New Hope and makes his and Beru's death more impactful for the audience.

Like most of us here, I wish there was more of Hayden and Ewan. Reva shouldn’t have more screen time than Vader himself.

They could’ve easily fixed the problem of Kenobi not killing Vader by making Kenobi sense Luke was in danger forcing him to leave Vader immediately before getting the chance to kill him. Instead, the writers had him sense this after the fact. Such a simple fix.

If they wanted Obi-Wan to win, they could make the Grand Inquisitor and troopers come to Vader's rescue.

For somebody that claimed 'Sith Lords are our specialty', Kenobi fails to finish the job all too often.

It is amazing how Disney can get the characters SO right and SO wrong at the SAME TIME.

All nitpicks aside, I really think Owen was amazing in this episode and the actor deserves praise.

The Qui Gin bit really annoyed me because I feel he should have shown himself sooner to motivate Kenobi instead of appearing at the end saying “you did a good job” when Kenobi overall did not do a good job lol at least I got to see Liam back in the role though I guess

If Vader had his own lil ship to go after Obi-Wan, why couldn't the big ship continue to follow the rest of the jedi? Pitch Meeting Ryan will have a blast with this one.

You’re completely right about how they should have doubled down on Obis trauma. That monologue by Ani/vader at the end is some of my favorite SW material, just imagine if they built to it with the CW bond of the two, the meditation of Vader and Obi, damn we almost had it

Reva was completely unnecessary, her inclusion actually hurt the show as it took time away from Vader/Ben/Leia. She could have been replaced with any random Inquisitor and it would have made the story better by allowing them to focus on other things. And, before people call me a racist or some other BS, I'm not saying she's necessarily a bad character. It's just obvious Disney used Kenobi to setup whatever project they have in mind for her next, completely to the detriment of the story they should have been focused on telling. I know this show went through a lot of rewrites, and God does it ever show, but it seems to me they should have trimmed the fat on the narrative to give a leaner, more focused, and all around better season. Edit: But hey, at least it's better than Book of Boba Fett...

Seeing Reva defeated at the end, with Moses Ingram acting her ass off, it became clear to me that the show did her and her character dirty. I honestly think she could've been a fairly good character with better writing. But I suppose she still has the chance to become that if her prematurely announced spinoff is better than what we saw of her in this series. Not that it says much, let's be honest.

To those who loved Kenobi, I’m genuinely happy for you. But for me? No. The handful of okay - good moments this series produced did not make up for all the shoddy filmmaking, weak writing, and glaring lore issues it created. This is one “rematch of the century” that did not need to exist.

I'll never understand why Lucas Film didn't make this show their number one priority financially and put their top creators on the project. Dave Filoni and Jon Favreua should've had bigger roles.

It's either easy or hard to believe how they manage to screw up everything they touch at this point... That's what happens when fans demand Deborah Chow get a trilogy or whatever after watching the 3rd episode of the first season of the Mandalorian and see "a little mandalorian action"... Fans have incredibly low standards in my opinion and disney doesn't care in general because it seems that their main idea is to have a Obi-Wan vs Vader rematch to seel subscriptions and then everything else they came up with was just so that they could get to the "rematch of the century"... sad really

Rebels had a more emotional Vader fight with Ashoka complete with a stronger half mask reveal. Jedi: Fallen Order even proved you could do an Order 66 survivor confronting a conflicted female Inquisitor that gets stabbed in the stomach by Vader, complete with escaping the underwater fortress and using the Force to hold back leaking water. All better directed, written, and brought to life with more time to flesh out the key characters. At least for me, Kenobi tried to imitate these past scenes causal audiences are unlikely to watch, due to disregarding animated content and not considering video games, but executed worse than those prior scenes. Edit: If not with Qui Gon, more flashbacks through Anakin would deepen Kenobi’s emotional arc. The main issue is not doing more with the potential of this story as this could’ve been a more emotionally poignant version of Jedi: Fallen Order with Kenobi and Reva.

The lightsaber choreography was noticeably better here and it was neat to hear Hayden's voice mixed with JEJ's. That said, I don't understand why they insist on having Vader and Obi-Wan talk to each other solely in one liners. The dialogue sounds computer-generated. You'd think we'd get at least _some_ meaningful conversation between the two. Instead of fleshing out the characters, it feels like they're primarily trying to patch up plot holes.

I think Reva COULD have been an actual driver of the story in this episode. Obi Wan should have got a sense that Luke was in real danger during the fight and had to choose between engaging Vader again to finish him off (and the risk of dying in the process) or risk Luke being killed by Reva. The "sense" of Luke's life being in the balance could have been the reason why he chose to leave (and in a panicked hurry). I, too, had trouble believing he would let Vader live after telling him that Anakin was dead and the person who killed him was standing right in front of him practically begging for death.

“Oh no our hyper-drive doesn’t work!” Obi-Wan then proceeds to lure Vader away with escape pod and use its hyperdrive to get to Luke later. They had a hyperdrive the whole time why do they think we don’t notice these things?

They ended the series as well as they could have with the setup they gave, but I don't have the satisfaction that comes from finishing a truly well-written story.

Reva had absolutely no reason to want to kill Luke other then to force a redemption arc.

The wheezing sound that Vader's life support made brought me back to the first time I watched RotJ. I know it was probably an easy decision for them, but then they seemed to intensify it a bit, tearing at my heart even more. Overall, I share your opinion. Thanks for sharing!

I love the Ahsoka parallel because it means that both Ahsoka and Obi Wan, two of the closest people in Anakin's life, take off two sides of his mask but don't reveal Anakin fully until Luke takes off Anakin's mask when he is redeemed.

My thing about the fight is that it felt like their fighting styles were flipped. Vader is usually very aggressive when fighting and never goes on the defensive as his style is to overwhelm the enemy with powerful strikes to off set them but it’s Obi-Wan who acts like that where he should be defensive not aggressive. Vader acts like he does not care that he is fighting the person who he thinks took everything from him and does not go full out in rage against him. Even in A New Hope, at their age, you can tell who is the aggressive fighter during their fight and Vader is trying to strike Obi-Wan down with all his might. Sorry for the long post but I just wanted to let my thoughts out after watching the fight.

The mix of Hayden/James voices are so well done. Vader's voice changing back and forth is badass and heartbreaking at the same time

According to rumors I heard from another channel talking about it, there was cut content from the fight where it originally was Qui-Gon's voice convincing Kenobi not to kill Vader, as the force ghost still believes there is glimpses of light inside Anakin.

I was with you on Leia not remembering Obi-wan when she gets older, but I was reminded of the most awesome teacher I had when I was 10… He was cool, he knew everything and was so much fun. I had that teacher for a year in 3rd grade… A year… Can’t remember his name… Can’t remember the classroom. Can’t even really remember what made him cool. Now I have no problem with Leia remembering him as the hero her Dad sent. At least she knows his name…

The worst part is that the thing that "why the empire wont arrest Bail, knowing damn well he has connection to Kenobi"

You know, this episode really gave me some feels in parts and I liked most of the show. I thought the Anakin and Obi-Wan stuff was fantastic. Sadly though, the Disney era is summed up by missed opportunities and easily avoidable mistakes. We see the same pattern over and over. Disney frustrates me more than it satisfies me

I feel like you might be missing the idea behind Obi Wan and Luke's conversation on Dagobah - and I can't blame you, I struggled with this for many years. It wasn't until a long conversation with my cousin that we worked out that maybe Obi Wan really isn't suggestion Luke kill Vader at all. As with anything, it requires a change in your perspective, a change in the way you interpret the scene. You know, looking at it "from a certain point of view." If you revisit that scene, Obi Wan never actually suggests Luke kill Vader - he only explains that he must confront him. It's Luke who replies "I can't do it Ben, I can't kill my own father," and Obi Wan responds with "Then the Emperor has already won, you were our last hope." He seems understandably disappointed, but I don't believe it's because Luke won't Kill Vader. I think he's disappointed in that Luke only sees one option - killing Vader. He's disappointed that Luke fails to see that confronting Vader doesn't necessarily mean killing him. That he's the only hope in turning his old friend back to the light side and restoring balance to the Force. As he states in A New Hope, "there are alternatives to fighting." Yoda eludes to this in the scene earlier in that the final test for Luke is confronting Vader and that this test will determine if he is truly a Jedi Knight. Neither Obi Wan nor Yoda ever suggest killing Vader, only confronting him. And as Luke is still learning, he hasn't yet seen that there are other options other than killing him - and that these other options are truly what it means to be a Jedi. With this in mind, you could interpret that what you're seeing from Obi Wan is disappointment and frustration that Luke fails to see this. Now as with anything, this is merely an interpretation, but once looking at it from this point of view, the scene finally started to make sense for me.

Funny how Yoda was never mentioned since he was regarded as "the Jedi Master who instructed" Obi-Wan, how else would he be able to commune with Qui Gon without the training Yoda promised Kenobi? Even on Dagobah Yoda could have talked to Ben through the Force or Kenobi could have paid the Jedi Master a visit in person.

So let me get this straight, reva essentially shows the grand inquisitor mercy with a pathetic stab, Vader, who chopped off a mans head with his own lightsaber AS A JEDI, essentially spares Reva and Obi wan (twice) Obi wan after clearly not learning his lesson on mustafar spares Vader. Lazy ass writing man

I felt that every good moment this show managed was outweighed by several bad ones. I wanted to like this, I really did. This was mediocre at best, when it should've been a grand slam.

You’re so right about lack of tension with the characters having to survive. So, I completely agree with a more introspective on Kenobi. His grief his force ghost training… Vader should have lost and then be left for dead. Then the line in Return of the Jedi: ‘and now his failure is complete’ would have an added weight because Kenobi failed to kill him twice. And the: ‘Now I am the master’ line too. And Vader, now more angry than ever with Ben and having given a promise to the Emperor to find and kill him… He then just let’s Kenobi chill in Sand Land for 10+years until A New Hope…

"Struggles to justify its own existence." From a narrative standpoint, absolutely. That said, for all its faults, they got me. I was straight choked up at the end, with Obi-Wan's final acceptance of Anakin's "death," his words to Leia, meeting Luke. It may have muddied the waters of the story a bit, but I think it worked well as a love letter to fans (especially prequel fans) and an emotional (at least) bridge between the prequels and the OT.

I thought Quinlan would show up, after that name drop a few episodes ago. But I'm glad he didn't, for his own sake.

The camera and how the fight was shot was a solid 2/10. I really dont understand what the hell they are doing at lucasfilm/Disney. Atleast the acting from ewan and hayden was AMAZING

The beautiful thing about repeating the Ahsoka mask thing was the symbolism with it. That the two people closest to Vader broke him but it took his son to fully break through to him. They weren't enough to save him but Luke is. It makes 6 more powerful. Ahsoka took the right side of Vader's mask off and Obi did the left. Each did one half and saw Anakin inside and yet they couldnt save him. Luke was the one who got his mask fully off and brought Anakin out. It's such a beautiful ending and justifies itself by showing Ewan and Hayden together again and giving adults like me who grew up with the prequels (grew up with Hayden and Ewan and Natalie like OG fans did with Mark, Carrie, and Harrison) a continuation that we never thought we'd see again.

While i did really enjoy the duel, this series has introduced so many plot holes and inconsistencies I have trouble keeping track of all them. As George Lucas would say “it boggles the mind”.

At this point, I can't just look at this episode on its own. I have to look at the whole season now that it is over. Overall Obi-Wan Kenobi has been disappointing. My feelings coming out of this are similar to my feelings coming out of each of the sequel movies. There are too many contrived moments that happen without any logic, so many missed opportunities that would have elevated this project, and lots of hype from the fans and Lucasfilm that never really paid off.

Like Josh from Den of nerds pointed out..it feels like they had these few well established points they knew they wanted to touch upon and then they were like..ook we have to make these characters do something to get to these points. So yeah, a meh overall.

They should have had Reva die off in front of Kenobi when she finally redeemed herself. It would have made more sense of her dying along with the secret of Luke. Her surviving that stab without being completely consumed by the dark side makes no sense.

The Kenobi series gets a 4/10 for me mainly because of cool Vader scenes and the Qui-Gon cameo. I feel like people aren’t highlighting the biggest flaws of this episode and the series at large. Obi-Wan FAILED. He had one job. Protect Luke, and he failed. And not only does he fail because of his mistake of leaving Tatooine, he leaves AGAIN. What?! And on top of that, he goes to the Organa family on their FUCKING HOMEWORLD. Like bro, are you hoping someone spots you, you wanna spell it out on the Tatooine sands that you’re associated with the Organa family? Leaving Reva alive is mind bending for me, I can’t fathom it. She’s clearly unstable, has violent tendencies, is bat shit crazy, she knows exactly where Luke is and knows he is also associated with Kenobi like Leia. She could blow their whole scheme out of the window with a mood swing. They let her live! Kenobi and Uncle Owen have to be the dumbest and most naive motherfuckers in the galaxy, save for Bail Organa. Like I’m surprised their hearts remember to fucking beat their IQ is so unnaturally low, hate it. This whole show was a waste of time with teases and missed opportunities galore! The Vader and Kenobi rematch was nice and beautiful, in no way does it excuse nor justify the rest of the contrived, unpleasing, disappointing, half assed, half baked, horrifically written and egregious series that is Kenobi. Yoda was wrong, there is no other hope, if this is what they have to offer, it might be time to cancel that subscription. Edit Where is Duel of the fates!? Prequel music? Epic space opera? Huge oversight, fucking massive PLANET sized.

i thought it was mid. Liked the fight itself but hated the whole reva psrt and the mask thing just made me think they were ripping off rebels

I think I end the series with just one big........ *sigh*

The scene with Qui-gon brought a tear to my eye. But not just because it was awesome to see him but because it points to what this show should have been. It should have been about obi-wan and him coming to terms with Vader, but not just obi-wan, but the entire Jedi order and how it failed Anakin. It should have bridged the PT Jedi with the Jedi in the OT. That they let midiclorians be more important then the spirit of the Jedi. They let dogma of no attachment blind them to the needs of Anakin. Take all the time with Reva and put it into flashbacks. Obi-wan, though seeing the failings of the Jedi comes to terms with Anakin/Vader, frees himself and helps him and yoda become the wise mentors we loved. This show like almost every LF project after the purchase is a complete failure of writing, vision, and understanding of what Lucas created. Star Wars is truly dead. A couple of good scenes don’t make up for this.

Imagine if Obi was standing over defeated Vader, ignites his lightsaber, and says something about finishing his mistake of leaving him alive, and when he's just about to strike Quigon yells in his head to stop or to leave him.

For me, too much of this series is made up of moments/scenes/stories from previous content but that content was better. There's obviously aspects of Jedi: Fallen Order here, but the game was better. The Vader/Ashoka fight in Rebels was better and more emotional. One of the problems with Disney's ownership of Star Wars is that previous content is just better.

Vader is still looking for Obi Wan after this series because in Rebels he intended to find Ashoka to get to him but apparently kidnapping Leia or threatening Bail would have been an easier thing to do to get to him. Also it seems strange that Bail didn't asked Ashoka to help him because according to the Ashoka novel they knew each other at the time Leia was kidnapped and she even worked with him at some point because of her involvement in the rebellion.

A couple of moments in this episode really made me feel like this could have been good with some proper re-writes and editing. The ones i can think of right now are: Even if it is mostly a copy paste from rebels, the vader/anakin scene with the broken mask was still very good, both in execution and storywise, Obi-wan just walking off makes no sense obviously, but with just a few edits that could have been fixed (vader collapsing and either having obi-wan not check if he's actually dead or having the inquistor and/or troops show up to save vader). The mix of Haidens voice and James Earl Jones was really good. The scene with Obi-Wan and Reva. I'm ignoring everything else that happened before this moment, but in a vacuum, Obi-Wan offering wise words and guiding her towards the light really felt like the Obi-Wan i have wanted to see ever since this series began, it was only now that we truly got it. I also like Moses Ingrams acting in this, i just feel it's sad that all the set up to get to this point has been so poorly written. The final scene between Obi-Wan, Owen (and technically to Luke), i don't know why but to me it felt like a cathartic moment, ignoring everything else, just having Obi-Wan meet Luke and say hello there. Yes i acknowledge the meme, but it's also very fitting, considering it's the first words we hear from A New Hope Obi-Wan. Over the course of watching this series i've reinforced my belief that Ewan Mcgregor is irreplacable as Obi-Wan. Not that the series itself has done much to help with that view, but he still shines through in several scenes. Having seen the entire series now, i feel baffled over the earlier episodes, how poorly they set up the events that take place. Skirting around the canon just to try to patch it up later, still messing with things like Leia's and Obi-Wans relationship to the point that their later (canonically) interactions make no sense... I could do without the series, but now that it's here, it has a very mixed bag of a few great individual moments and a lot of poor writing/editing which shows a lack of understanding of Star Wars or just people in general. And the shaky cam done in post in a bunch of episodes, especially episode 5... just stop, please. It looks horrible and does nothing to hide the poor choreography/tactics used in the non-lightsaber fight scenes. If you got this far, thanks for reading my rambling thoughts. :)

I think the point about "why didn't Obi wan kill Vader" is easy to explain. Obi Wan made the same choice as Luke, for different reasons. If Obi Wan had killed Vader, no matter how bad of a person he was, it would have been in cold blood, this was a downed, defenceless opponent after all, and doing so would have been a path to the dark side. Remember that Anakin was right, "he's too dangerous to be left alive" is not the Jedi way, unless you think what Anakin did to Dooku is what Obi Wan should have done to Vader here?

I completely agree with your assessment here. Overall Kenobi was a mixed bag for me, and I really struggled with why he didn’t kill Vader.

Vader finally had the High Ground and didn't seem to know how to use it.

My main issue is still: How the heck is this Vader being an apprentice and Obi-wan being the master? Their positions have completely changed! There's no excuse for how canon breaking this is! Not even the original trilogy is sacred anymore to this greedy corporation...

All I learned is that Obi Wan Kenobi is now fully responsible for every single death at the hands of Vader. "I will do what I must" my ass. They didn't write this in a way that makes sense for him to leave him alive. He just walks away to let Vader continue Murdering and destroying. So, Obi Wan is actually a HUGE fucking asshole.

Once again, almost all the initial fan speculation on what this series would be about was way, way better than what the IP merchant du jour managed to produce. This isn't (pop) culture, it's just "content".

1) How did Reva get to Tatooine before Obi-Wan? Without a ship? 2) How did the Devastator catch up with the civilian transport but could not overtake it? 3) Howcome the Devastator didn't catch the civilian transport in a tractor beam? 4) Howcome the Devastator didn't launch TIEs or any of it's other myriad of support craft to follow the civilian transport after it split from Obi-Wan? It has 72 TIES and a ton of transports and shuttles... 5) Howcome the Devastator wielded so little firepower? We're talking about the exact same ship that literally cuts a Nebulon-B Frigate in half in SECONDS in Rogue One, while simultaneously reducing the Profundity to a burning wreck, can't subdue a tiny civilian transport that seems to have battleship-levels of shielding? 6) So the small shuttle Obi-Wan took had a hyperdrive? Yet nobody thought to put the 8-10 people that were in the transport in this shuttle and use it's hyperdrive and abandon the transport?

How they could've justified kenobi letting vader live. Kenobi moves to make the killing blow but in that moment he experiences a force vision of the future showing luke grown up battling vader with vaders final like echoing in the background "tell your sister you were right" thus kenobi stays his hand knowing vader still has a role to play.

That finale had two scenes I absolutely loved. Kenobi apologizing to Anakin, and Kenobi telling Leia about her parents. Beautifully done.

I actually quite liked that Vader's mask was destroyed much in the same way as in his fight with Ahsoka. In my mind it shows that neither Obi-wan nor Ahsoka, people who were very close to Anakin, were able to fully bring him back by defeating him. Rather, it was only Luke who was able to fully remove the mask, and thereby bring back Anakin, by showing mercy.

Obi Wan: "My work here is done" Owenn: "But you didn't do anything"

I didn't see Reva going after Luke for Vader. I saw it as Reva went after Luke because he was more important to Obi-wan than she was and when she was about to do the deed PTSD from Nightfall kicked in and she realized what she was doing and what she'd become. Hope this helps!

All episodes considered, this series really did almost feel more like a coming-of-age story for Leia than it did a journey of self-forgiveness for Kenobi. I appreciated everything that Ewan and Hayden put into the series-they gave their best and I wish they had been allowed to do more of it. Even though it could have been different, maybe better, I am still glad that we got we did. I feel like the Leia portrayed in Kenobi added something truly valuable to her story: By showing us what Leia was like as a young girl, how she came to care for the people in rebellion against the empire, and her taking ownership of the rebellion-all of which strengthens her image as a leader. It showed that her choice was not only a result of following her father’s lead, but it was also inspired by the strength and bravery of the people that she saw fight and die to fight evil. When she was getting herself ready and put on Talla’s holster, and then they stopped on a still of her standing there I honestly teared up. She had become the rebel princess that we all loved, who would someday to blossom into the leader the rebellion would follow. It really felt like our princess was back with us again... Blair has done just such a masterful job portraying her and I think that Carrie Fisher would have been very proud of her...

-The shaky camera and the constant POV switch to Reva made the fight really underwhelming. -The end of the fight was probably the best scene in the entire series...but then I was basically screaming "WHY ARE YOU KEEPING HIM ALIVE AGAIN?". -Him calling Vader "Darth" felt really shoehorned and made me go "Really? You are trying to explain THAT of all things?" -Obi-Wan's conversation with Leia was really nice...but I'm still not sold on Obi-Wan NEEDING to have spent time with her in the first place. -Everything related to Reva felt like filler. In the end, I felt her character was completely pointless to the series. I didn't even feel like they focused too much on her, she just felt...useless. Give me her story in another series ("Star Wars: Inquisitors" for example), and I would've been way more invested and they would've been able to do so much with her too. Basically, this episode felt like all the others: Very enjoyable moments and ideas, but with my brain constantly going "...but why?"

My ideal "Kenobi" - It's a standalone film instead of a series - The central conflict is Kenobi's guilt and his inability to commune with the force (maybe make it so that he can't use the force at all at the start) - He meets up with Yoda so he can help teach him (Like he said he would in ep 3) - He learns that in order to gain peace he must let go of his guilt - Kenobi and Vader have a shared force vision (maybe multiple) and they have a kickass duel. - Kenobi defeats him and gains inner peace, now able to see force ghosts and become one himself when the time comes - Vader still says "You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did" because that's a perfect line I don't think it made any sense for Obi-Wan and Leia to interact and know each other so well. Their duels where they spare each other were pretty dumb and made no sense for their characters. Vader and Kenobi at this point actively want to murder eachother. Making their duel a force vision neatly ties up this inconsistency Whether or not Kenobi is alive is left ambiguous in the eyes of the empire because from Tarkin's perspective a force vision is not a reliable sighting

The point of the mask being broken scenes between this show and Rebels is that two people close to Anakin’s heart were able to partially remove Vader but not fully and Vader still remained, while Luke was able to remove the whole helmet and lead Vader back to being Anakin and be redeemed. Both Ashoka and Obi-Wan didn’t mean enough to bring him back to the Light, but Luke did.

The reason the empire doesn’t investigate Bail and Leia is because they aren’t aware. The plan to lure out Kenobi with Leia was Reva’s plan, which it’s never even made clear of Vader knew about. The higher up’s did not know HOW Kenobi was lured out, Vader and the Inquisitor never saw Leia and although the Inquisitor certainly knew there was a girl involved in finding Kenobi, he probably didn’t know which girl. Reva wasn’t about to go tell the empire all about their potential enemies, because as we find out she was secretly working against Vader.

This was not the “rematch of the century” the episode and entire show needed more depth & coherence than just spectacle for me. Unfortunately i can’t count this as part of the canon, but merely a underwhelming ‘What if’ at best.

It was my understanding that most of the refugees were force sensitive, given how they were using "the path". Which is why the Grand Inquisitor was hell bent on following them over just Kenobi.

What I found strange was when Leia walked away from Obi Wan, Harja stepped in front of him say she needs space. What makes him think he knows what she wants

No, the lines in A New Hope do not make sense. Leia's introduction to "General Kenobi" talking about how he served her father years ago in the clone wars, would only make sense if she had never met him. They could have solved that by never calling him Ob-Wan in this series. How could they have fixed it? Some minor writing adjustments and Leia grows up fondly remembering an old Jedi named Ben, never knowing his real name. Vader talking about being but a learner also doesn't make sense. He hasn't been a "learner" for a decade now. He's been a sith lord. So there is no way he was talking about this battle in this TV series. It would make more sense for him to say "When last we met, you got lucky. Now you're older and I'm stronger. It won't be so easy this time!" Or something like that. But of course he didn't say that. His line in A New Hope could only be a reference to the days when he was actually a student and Kenobi was the master Jedi. How could they have fixed it? Don't have them fight a big battle. In Episode 3, Kenobi gets away without ever crossing lightsabers or getting dragged through the fire. In episode 6, Vader and Kenobi are about to square off for the big battle but then Kenobi senses Luke's danger and forgoes the battle with Vader in order to save Luke. Easy. Would fans be disappointed to not get the big battle? Maybe. But at least they wouldn't be out of sync with A New Hope, they wouldn't make Kenobi so weak, and they wouldn't have a stupid ending like having Kenobi walk away after beating Vader without putting an end to it like he said he would. The mental gymnastics needed to make those two lines from A New Hope fit with this show are too much, too silly, to make any sense out of it. It's just poorly written.

No way people are praising this episode for a few member berries lmao, the standards are so low

The biggest flaw of all this... despite the great moment of Obi finally realizing Anakin was "gone"... he left him AGAIN instead of killing him... so Obi is complicit in allowing Anakin to aid the empire's terror and reign AGAIN. In fact, this is the biggest sin of this entire series... nobody believes in finishing the job... people just leave people assuming they are no threat or will die on their own... how many times does this lesson need to be learnt?

We actually can make sense of why Leia doesn't seem to know obi wan in a new hope. He told her to not tell anybody about their interactions. So in her message to him in ANH she pretends not to know him in case the message ended up being found by the empire. But later on when Luke says Ben Kenobi she instantly knows it's obi wan. She doesn't need to be like "who's Ben kenobi? I wanted obi wan." Edit: Now admittedly I jumped the gun and wrote this before you finished your point. But I would say that she didn't care about sending the message due to the fact that her and her father were basically already screwed. They know damn well they're part of the rebel alliance after scarrif

I feel like a novelization of this series could be a vast improvement on this story since it would naturally have more dialogue and we'd be savvy to the characters' thoughts and emotions, arguably the most important things in this kind of story.

Why was Vader unable to deflect all those rocks from obi wan? Pretty sure he is immensely more powerful in the force at this time.

More people need to realize, the reason why the finale was so good, is because of Andrew Stanton coming on to help with the writing for parts 5 and 6. The man has a DECORATED writing career with Pixar animation studios. He wrote some of their BIGGEST movies. Like it just makes you wonder "why was he up there all this time?" cause it just confirms my suspicions that Stanton should've been the man to hire from the get go. Then the show would be A tier instead of mid tier.

I had so many little problems with this episode that I couldn't really enjoy the good stuff, which was the emotional part of the duel and Reva coming to her senses. I'm usually not that nitpicky, but this series just kept piling on lore inconsistencies / things that feel off. In this episode: another slow-motion chase without the proper sense of urgency, the Imperials only being able to go after one ship, Vader again not completing the kill, Obi-Wan not killing Vader, Obi-Wan escaping the planet with no mention of the Star Destroyer in orbit, Obi-Wan sharing an unbreakable bond with Leia, Owen & Beru not asking for any help or hiding somewhere else for no good reason. What will they tell Luke when he asks why someone tried to kill or kidnap him? Why make Reva returning with Luke so dramatic if everybody already knows that Luke survives? And finally, Qui-Gon's appearance felt a bit rushed and unearned. In the entire series before that moment, I believe he's only referred to once.

When the series is good, it’s good - but the rest of the time it’s mediocre. My biggest gripe is that Leia has closer connection to Kenobi than Luke. To me it just doesn’t add up with how distraught Luke is when he dies if this is there only or main meeting. I’ll also admit I’m a part of the crowd that wanted a more introspective series.

I enjoyed this ending. Still waaaayyy too much interaction between leia and Obi wan for me. And they were playing with fire having Reva get that close to Luke with her lightsaber. But this Vader and Obi wan duel was amazing!!! To sum it up for me, this was a great finale with a poor build up.

I can always tell the action to story ratio of an episode based on how much praise it gets on social media. This holds true for the finale

Asking "Why didn't Kenobi kill Vader" is an ultimately unanswerable question. Not only the heavy hand of continuity forbids it, but it is not answerable due to pragmatic concerns (we want to sell Darth Vader toys), and primarily genre conventions. This is akin to asking "why doesn't Batman kill the Joker?" Within the melodrama of modern comics and movies that are intended for a general audience, heroes don't kill anyone unless A) they are faceless, nameless bad guys, and/or B) They are acting in active self defense (hot blood). If Vader were beaten and Obi Wan walked over and calmly cut his head off, the genre conventions would break, because it would feel like murder. Regardless of how one like to imagine the "real world" would work, Star Wars exists within an Action/Adventure family fare universe that doesn't support certain actions. Within that context, it makes perfect sense. I enjoyed this series immensely, and felt it had no more plot/dialog or character weaknesses than is typical with any Star Wars offering. Could it have been better? Sure! Could it have been worse? Oh, absolutely! I felt it delivered on its promises of a character arc for Obi Wan, interesting new characters, parallel story development, themes of redemption, forgiveness and transcendence, all while working as an acceptable bridge between RotS and ANH. No, it probably didn't check every box every Star Wars fan would agree was necessary. But that would be an impossible goal anyway. Excellent show!

There was no need for this to be a 6 episode mini-series. I feel like the writers are just trying to fill up time with nonsense because they don't have a whole lot to work with. If this was more tightly condensed It could've been much better.

It was fine, it had an incredible scene with vader and obi wan and it was nice seeing liam neeson back. But in my eyes they didn't justify the existance of this show and i'd rather they never made it and instead did a film with a different and more focused story.

I know Obi has to leave Vader alive because the OT (and more) exists, BUT it doesn't make sense in context of this episode. Why does Obi leave Vader alive???? I get that Obi had an emotional moment, but he also knows that if he leaves Vader alive, many many many more people will suffer and die. If he leaves Vader alive now, that means Vader still exists as a huge threat to any surviving Jedi and the Rebels. Obi is making the same mistake that he made on Mustafar, walking away leaving Anakin still alive.

I dont understand why reva was told that not murdering an innocent child honours her murdered youngling friends. Surely kenobi should demand some sort of action to make amends for all the terrible things shes done over the last decade, such as protecting those the empire will continue to persecute rather than making reva out to be a tragic hero

I loved the parallels between this episode and shadows of the apprentice part 2 in rebels. The fact Ahsoka split the left side and obi wan the right side, as if each of them were only a piece in turning anikan back to the light. Then luke emotes the full helmet

The broken mask scene scene was one of the most viscerally emotional moments in all of Star Wars. I also noticed that whenever the blue of Obi-Wan’s saber reflected onto Vader, Obi-Wan was making an appeal to Anakin. The soul of Anakin was trying to resurface. But then, when the lighting turned red, the dark side overtook Vader again. Incredible execution there. I don’t know man. I had a few different complaints and nitpicks throughout this series, but I just loved so much of it. Moments like this scene made my love of the narrative overpower the other things I didn’t care for (i.e. certain writing decisions, some moments of execution, etc.)

I guess some of us really have to lower our standards so that we can enjoy Star wars again. Yes there was qui gon, yes we had the rematch between Vader and kenobi, but come on, it really just wasnt well made

The reason Obi Wan doesn't personally kill Darth Vader is for the same reason he hadn't in Revenge of the Sith and won't in A New Hope. He can't kill his own brother, Anakin Skywalker. Even if Vader is all that remains, for Obi-Wan, it would be too much pain to bring him to kill Vader because it would still feel as if he were killing Anakin. George Lucas confirmed that Obi-Wan Kenobi was more powerful than Darth Vader during A New Hope, so it begs the question, why doesn't he kill Vader there and then and stop this evil madman for good either? Because again, he did not have the personal willpower to do so. He believed that would be Luke's responsibility, eventually. Whether you consider this philosophy of Obi-Wan's cowardly or foolish is fair, but it has always been present in George Lucas's Star Wars. This is nothing new.

Prime Vader Who has created his own Saber form and is a beast in disneys own canon comics and who is arguably stronger than ANI Mustafar ...losing to a out of practice Kenobi using the force is insane first of all obi wan was considered to have one of the weakest connections to the force in the temple , then vader just letting him walk away.... this changes the context of vader as a character when he lost on Mustafar it was because of his own arrogance and failings as vader he learnt and overcome this and became ever more powerful, fully developed his power with the force created his own saber form to specifically destroy Jedi to the point Sidious had to over him to stop , Now vader is not even a threat a out of prime kenobi can beat him.... Makes sense next month there is a issue when vader and palps are going to have a saber duel ... now who cares vader wont even be able to do scratch him if he cant even beat old kenobi not really a point in reading the comics anymore disney just does whatever in live action.

I'm looking forward to the follow-up series "Aunt Beru, Sith hunter"

It was a mess. The show did nothing but raise up Leia as more important than Luke, set up an unnecessary spin-off for a character of little-to-no importance (Reva), and continued in the vein of crapping on the men of original trilogy.

This entire show just completely disappointed me. It could've been something genuinely interesting by doing some kind of introspective look into Obi-wan's psyche, with flashbacks and talking with Qui-Gon and such but Disney just wanted to peddle more crap with Star Wars slapped on it. I'm not too concerned about every single piece of lore and canon fitting together perfectly, but I do expect at least some general consistency on a basic level. This show didn't just fail in being an interesting expansion on the Star Wars universe, it missed so many basic narrative requirements to be a compelling story regardless of the Star Wars aspects. It makes so many needless mistakes I genuinely question if any of the people working on this show have a second of experience in screenwriting, it's atrocious. There's no explanations about how Reva beat Obi-Wan to Tatooine. Obi-Wan just randomly makes enormous jumps in his abilities, he can't move a tiny object more than 2 inches but then holds back a literal ocean within the exact same episode, with no explanation. There's so many other basic narrative issues that completely break the suspension of disbelief, like characters openly talking about what should be extremely sensitive information out loud despite being surrounded by people who should realistically kill them for it. Like Reva saying how she wants to kill Vader right in front of dozens of stormtroopers, or Tahla talking to Obi-Wan over comms right next to multiple Imperial officers, and Obi-Wan and Leia talking about the force and stuff in the back of Frenk's truck despite knowing he was a friend of the Empire without knowing if he could hear them or not.

the two things that bothered me most: WHY leave Darth Vader alive? They really needed to cover why Obi Wan didn't finish him right then and there, knowing what a threat he was. As Mace Windu would have said "He's too dangerous to keep alive!" and... what the heck was Reva's purpose in going after Luke?? why? why why?? she was already out of Darth Vader's good graces, and the inquisitors... there was just no point in her trying to... kill Luke?? makes zero sense at all. All it does was give her a chance to turn. and yes, I totally expected Vader to say something like "Who has the high ground now?" :D I did like how they made much more sense of Kenobi saying Darth killed Anakin in Episodes 4 and 5 Very good episode and series assessment, Thor Skywalker!

When Obi-wan breaks free from the rubble, he essentially feels like what I was expecting Luke to be like in the sequel trilogy. The power level would make sense for a character like Luke, with so many years to train. For Obi-Wan, it kind of just pulled me out of it. It was very cool, but this nagging voice in the back of my head wouldn't let me fully enjoy it.

When Vader says, “I did.” I honestly felt chills. But it took a long windy road to get there.

Suddenly now I wanted a scene (this is in jest) Where Obi wan kenobi is laying on a couch explaining his emotions and feelings and how Anakin's fall is his fault and the creation of Darth Vader he feels is his fault. A really touching moving scene exploring his psyche and his introspective view of himself. And then the camera pans out and it is the jawa who steals his air conditioning sitting there listening to him like a therapist. Giving him occasional feedback in Jawaeese, while subtly pillaging Obi-Wan kenobi's things, while he's focused on his therapy session.

The series didn’t need to be made. My exact thought when it was announced was “Why?”