Three Investigators Who Need Some Help! (Arkham Horror Discussion)

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Quick Learner

Quick Learner

Күн бұрын

In this video I'll talk about some ways we could help Jim Culver, Jenny Barnes, and Calvin Wright by adding some new cards to the game in future expansions!
00:00 Intro & Skids
02:27 Jim Culver
07:46 Jenny Barnes
12:23 Calvin Wright

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@toastkawaii8942
@toastkawaii8942 Ай бұрын
What Calvin needs are (more) cards that make you take direct damage/horror as additional costs for better effects. Or a permanent that works like Dark Pact but with damage/horror instead of doom. Let him use his life and sanity as a resource.
@TheDugbo
@TheDugbo Ай бұрын
At first I thought about if they made an expansion with signature cards for each investigator that only they could buy, but that wouldn't be too future proofed. So I think if they did something like "drifter only" and then Jenny and Calvin could take it and also future drifters. Enjoyed the video!
@WayOfHaQodesh
@WayOfHaQodesh 29 күн бұрын
Really like this idea, more synergistic cards for traits like drifter, Police, criminal, believer etc.
@mighij
@mighij 29 күн бұрын
This could actually work well. Adding a few Performer Only cards to the pool to help out Jim, Lola, Marie and Patrice. It would go a long way without affecting other investigators too much.
@WayOfHaQodesh
@WayOfHaQodesh 29 күн бұрын
@@mighij Yeah plus it would play on deepening what it means to have those traits, is not just some fluff or descriptive words but those words actually carry some gameplay elements and come with their own mini cards pools, allowing the building of more fleshed out Drifters or Performers.
@WayOfHaQodesh
@WayOfHaQodesh 29 күн бұрын
I would love to see more support, perhaps in asset form, that utilise multiple stats or lowest stat, think Savant, which is excellent for the 3333 Jenny stat line, Lola and Amina likewise. I see this as the greatest strength for such investigators, and they will always be better flex roles, that's just a product of such Jack of All trades stats. I see Calvin as way more combat focused, as he's got Spirit access, and most spirit cards are dealing with combat, maybe a weapon in survivor that like butterfly swords could leverage 2 or even 3 or all 4 stats.
@rupert7565
@rupert7565 Ай бұрын
Some ideas: Jim: asset 5xp,reaction after revealing an non auto-fail token, you may take 1 direct horror to treat it as an skull/tablet/... token instead. Maybe forced, but limited to specific tokens and non-direct? either way, this makes the trumpet also a bit better. Calvin: an event with some strong effect, this test uses your lowest stat instead.
@moooseman3
@moooseman3 29 күн бұрын
Effects testing your "lowest stat" is a pretty neat idea! It's the next logical step from Savant.
@rupert7565
@rupert7565 29 күн бұрын
@@moooseman3 yes i was thinking of savant and of resource tests, both rogue cards, but testing lowest stat feels much more survivor, who tend to be middling in all stats.
@TheApple176
@TheApple176 28 күн бұрын
The biggest problem with Calvin is figuring out a mechanic that rewards him more than any other investigator. Every time I’ve built a Calvin deck it’s always felt like I could be doing the same thing with another investigator, and they’d be doing it better. I suppose the best fit would be base skill value, so we’d need to see a lot more cards supporting that mechanic.
@Quick_Learner
@Quick_Learner 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, that would be another avenue. Like I said, Trial By Fire is interesting but ultimately is very expensive unless you can take a lot more tests per turn. I do tend to include Rise to the Occasion (0) in his decks as just a nice +3 wild card.
@888Grim
@888Grim Ай бұрын
Excellent video, really good point about testing sprint. For Jim, I was thinking they could print a spell-cycle (if they are gonna keep doing those) that is Song traited, maybe with a lvl 0 Song Of The Dead and a lvl 4 version that deals 2 base damage. Then along with that they could add some trait based payoff cards, like an event that draws cards (maybe 2 per) for each asset that you control with Song and/or one other under-utilized trait like Ritual, so that it's not too parasitic.
@Vak_Fairmont
@Vak_Fairmont 29 күн бұрын
Like for Skids playthrough, it is VERY good
@xiscythe5640
@xiscythe5640 28 күн бұрын
For Jenny, instead of add your book to this skill test (making a baseline of 6 while Tony has 8), I rather think about: add your lowest base skill. This makes "all 3s" Investigators pop off rather then any other. Ofc. these effects should be a little bit stronger or less expensive, since adding a maximum of 3 to a skill test is not the best effect anyway.
@danielgilson4731
@danielgilson4731 Ай бұрын
Listening to you talk about Calvin, i think that more effects like spirit of humanity would be great for him. Specifically, I'm imaginging a lvl 3 card that works the same but with actions. Like: [fast], exhaust (cardname), take 1 damage and 1 horror: gain 1 action.
@TheApple176
@TheApple176 Ай бұрын
Regarding Jim, I’ve always felt that as well as token fishing, there is potential for Mystic to be home for an archetype that allowed you to forgo the randomness of a test by instead having cards that allow you to choose one of the (negative) symbol tokens to resolve instead. I’d love to see a package of cards that play with this that is playable for mystics general, and doubly so for Jim.
@moooseman3
@moooseman3 Ай бұрын
Maybe a higher level Dark Prophecy that lets you choose any of the skull/cultist/etc symbols? It would have to be balanced pretty well since that's most of the way to Seal of the Elder Sign and it almost guarantees you can pass the test with upside.
@fredfredrickson5436
@fredfredrickson5436 Ай бұрын
Some level zero splash that facilitated multiple token reveal for certain tests scattered throughout the classes could potentially present the opportunity to beef both Jim and Calvin in one stroke while tempting other investors too. It strikes me that the designers could offer a suite of spirit traited events that revealed four and resolved two tokens during: A fight action for guardian, an evade action for rogue, a test during a spell action for mystic, and an investigate action for seeker, with the option to take a damage or horror to resolve just a single one of those tokens instead of two.
@stevenburton7725
@stevenburton7725 29 күн бұрын
I don’t know if Jenny needs anything else besides from Green Man Medallion and Charon’s Obol. Her late game is completely insane!
@astutedunsparce4036
@astutedunsparce4036 Ай бұрын
No Amina let's gooooo
@PseudoNymh730
@PseudoNymh730 Ай бұрын
Marie Lambeau is an investigator that has long needed some love from the designers. First of all, her statline is meh. It looks decent at a glance, but since there's very little you can do with 4 Intellect that you can't also do with Willpower her statline is mostly redundant. Also her card pool is super restricted for absolutely no reason. There are very few Spells outside of Mystic and among those none of them are very exciting options for Marie, so her access to Spell cards is basically just bad Mystic access. There is no tradeoff for her restricted card access, like the extra stat point that Mark or Rita gets or the bonus xp that Mateo or Kymani gets. Also the Doom portion of the Mystic pool has been very neglected by the designers, and never seem to be that great for Marie. The fact that Marie's card access prevents her from even considering the upgraded charms from Scarlet Keys further suggests to me that the designers aren't thinking of her when they design new cards. And if all that wasn't bad enough, she has one of (if not THE) most punishing weaknesses in the game. Not only does the Baron take up your ally slot, he can be difficult to get rid of and is the only signature weakness in the game that can kill other investigators. He's also an unavoidable silver bullet for Elle Rubash, which otherwise might have been the best Marie card ever printed. When you look at other investigators who get a bonus action most/every round, it's kind of crazy that Marie has to risk punishing the whole party (if her doomplay goes awry) to get access to her extra action. What on earth did they think was so good about Marie to justify all this? Is there even one thing she can do better than any other Mystic? I contend that Marie Lambeau is the most neglected investigator in Arkham.
@fredfredrickson5436
@fredfredrickson5436 Ай бұрын
Agreed. The doom-mage archetype is fun but challenging in Amina, but Marie is hamstrung to the point where playing her is frustrating. I'd like to see more of a design build out in the direction of doom manipulation that made it worthwhile for other mystics to dip a toe in the pool while enhancing Amina and Marie in particular. Some doom/horror, doom/damage tradeoffs would be nice, but the designers could really go crazy with any number of exotic positive and negative effects to add or subtract doom to build a viable, but exiting, high risk economy around it.
@Xathos
@Xathos Ай бұрын
Calvin Wright is trash. The best thing they could have done is made him a 2 across the board, and cap everything at 6.
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares Ай бұрын
Hard agree that Jim and Calvin need some help (Jim a LOT of help), but I love Jenny and think she's good, especially in single player. She can do everything and is one of the best dynamite blast spammers in the entire game because she can make the money for it easily, play scrounge for supplies to pick it back up, and get to the point where she can even "Double Double" it. That tactic alone can invalidate like 70% of the scenarios she finds herself in, and her deckbuilding is pretty flexible for her to go the Geas+Dark horse route (for just good stats overall) or the Black fan/well connected big money route. She also has access to Charon's Obol which makes getting to these XP breakpoints pretty quick, and then she snowballs midgame scenarios really hard. I don't think shes the best in the game or anything like that, but I've always been very confused when she gets compared to "bad" investigators. I think she's absolutely the best of the 3/3/3/3 statlines that exist so far, though i've only done one campaign with Wilson Richards so i'm not 100% set in stone on him yet.
@Quick_Learner
@Quick_Learner Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm not that down on Jenny, there's a reason that was only a few minutes of the whole video. I agree on Dynamite Blast. However, I think it'd be nice to add something new that really shines in her, that gets people talking about her. Every new campaign that comes out there's inevitably something that looks like it goes hard in Trish or Daisy -- why not something new for Jenny one of these days?
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares Ай бұрын
@@Quick_Learner It would be nice if less of the already strong investigators got stuff and instead the bottom 3rd of the roster was more fleshed out, balance I think would certainly improve the health of the game. But yeah, I think for me Jenny is in about the direct middle on power level comparatively which i think is NOT how the community feels lol
@xiscythe5640
@xiscythe5640 28 күн бұрын
For me, its not about her being awfully bad. The card pool is good enough to make everyone playable imO. But Jenny in many circumstances (not dynamite blast) can be swaped out by another invastigator being better at exactly the same deck. Thats what I do not see for Wilson Richard. He is basically a stat 4 while invastigating or fighting since you can run him purely fueled with tools for either fight, invastigate or flex.
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