100% agree - the 24-70 wouldn't be worth it to me because of how huge it is along with the lack of an ultra-wide end. I absolutely adore 20mm.

It’s a great camera! More to come.

Thanks so much! Yeah the S5 image is a huge step up from the G85 - so glad you’re enjoying the content!

Wow! that's awesome. Looking forward to get mine soon. Have fun, mate 🙏

That's amazing! How did your shoot go?

Couldn’t agree more! Great move. The a74 looks fantastic.

I’m so glad the video was helpful! Yeah autofocus can be iffy at times - but for simple shots (like my talking head from this video) it works pretty much perfectly!

Same. I really can't find anything that competes image and feature-wise at this price. I can't wait to do some 12 bit in the future as well!

Thanks so much!!

It does full readout 4k60?? And yes, this video was autofocus and it worked great!

I’ve had the S5 for about a month an a half I came from using the EOS R. I honestly thought I was going to regret it because of the AF but I’ve been pleasantly surprised I’ve shot mainly in autofocus since I’ve gotten it and for the most part it’s worked for what I need it to do. IMO there’s no hybrid full frame camera in its price point that can beat it. Great review sir!

Yeah with my native lenses the AF is very usable. Another commenter on this video shared that they’re going back to the Eos R - great perspective on both sides 👍🏼

@@NolanGunn I loved the R but I’d feel like if I went back to the R I would be going backwards I’m almost every category minus the autofocus and a few other things here n there.

I ordered the s5 to go along with my gh5s. They seem to overlap in the right areas. The s5 provides stabilization and that full framed look while my gh5s will provide more codecs and a full sized hdmi port. I'm curious how color grading will go matching shots for two camwra shoots.

I’m sure it’ll be great to match. I love the GH5s image - it’ll look really nice.

Agreed. I’ve found that the AF is even good enough for talking head stuff like KZfaq.

@@NolanGunn I think it is the way people see it to,5 or more years ago the autofocus of the S5 would have been called perfect and the camera would have been selling like hot cakes but being released in 2021 the S5 has alot of competition and almost all the videos people on KZfaq put up about it name and shame the Contrast based system for being "outdated" and they say there are better options out there like the R5/6 and sony A7SIII for auto focus. I believe though in a world of new technology coming out every day people expect things to get better, to improve on and over the predecessors when a company chooses to not do something like the competition not to upgrade not to advance they create something worth remembering which in the S5's case is showing people that manual focus is ok and they should not rely on autofocus for everything. Autofocus has it's place but should not become a must for every situation.

Agreed.

Damn I was tossing up between the GH5m2 and the A7c and now I’m stuck between the GH5m2 and the S5 and it feels like the difference is mostly in better S5 low light performance vs better portability of the GH5. Did you ever consider the GH5m2 at all?

I didn’t consider it since it’s the same older sensor. You really can’t beat the image out of the S5 (even with the GH6).

Absolutely! The A7C is still a fantastic camera. Like you said, you gotta know what your needs are!

With a little skill and experience, one can overcome AF, but ones skill cannot over come IBIS (usually), 10-bit, or higher mbps… …

Good points!

That's amazing! I'm so glad you've started using LOG, it's so amazing to work with. Awesome stuff 👍🏻

Thanks so much Zack! The A73 is great, my brother in law has one and it's killer 👌 To answer your question: The stabilization is "good enough" - much better then the A73 but not as good as the G85 and GH5. I'm happy to do light handheld moving shots with it, but never walking or technical hand held shots. Autofocus has surprised me! With native lenses (this video's shot of me is the 20-60 @35mm using autofocus and it never lost me) I've had really good luck. It's not perfect, but for low-pressure talking head stuff it's been great.

@@NolanGunn I walk and talk with all the time, [ my title name] you need to put it on the 225 mode if you wanna walk and talk. And the GH5 II and the G95 has excellent ibis, better than the GH5 and G85

How do you find the 20-60mm? I got a Fuji xt3 & 16-55mm, but find this combo too heavy. The s5is superb value

@@tobyr8555 the 20-60 is ok, but it’s a kit zoom. It’s not BAD but it has its place like vlogging and small video work. Other lenses are much better but purposeful. 20-60 isn’t going to give great portraits or macros but it’s a good lens. Weight wise it’s fantastic with the S5. The S1 is a tank and I only use it when shooting professional work. The S5 I use for video stuff a lot and personal use especially when traveling. I still use it professionally too. It’s good to remember it’s a 35mm sensor so everything weighs more. I now have the 16-35, 24-105, 70-200 4, 50 1.8, 35 1.8

I agree. The 20-60 is great for certain things but does suffer in more professional environments where you need more of a portrait lens.

Thanks so much!

Which one did you go with?

@@NolanGunn The S5. The GH6 came out a few weeks after I bit the bullet on the S5. But I still have M43 glass, so I'll probably buy a GH6 sometime in the next couple years.

Yeah same - I may pickup a used GH5 since they’re so cheap now!

What do you like about HLG vs LOG?

Thanks for following along! Canon is a great system as well, you can’t go wrong depending on your needs.

Canon R7 and S5 are not in the same league at all

@@Aviciiz I know they are not in the same league (I've been using cameras since 1997). But specs wise both have some interesting features which draw attentention.

@@MarioCastillion Yes but pricewise, you get a lot more with the S5 since you can get it for 1700

@@Aviciiz I know that too 😁

Absolutely! I would recommend picking up Panasonic’s utility LUTs. Start with “like709” at 90% and then if you want a more contrast tone you can use the “nicest709” for a different look. They are on Panasonics website if you Google it. Just shoot a lot of footage in different scenarios - practice overexposing, underexposing, etc and then see how they act in your editer so you can see what the footage does what it does. Usually for log you’re looking at exposing to the right - AKA +1 or +2 on your meter.

I agree, there’s something about it. But i will say having shot with the X-S10 there truly is something about Fujis sensor and colors that is very distinct. It’s a toss up for sure!

I’ll probably do an AF video - it’s a lot better then people think!

Any update coming for autofocus in soon?

Coming soon. Sometime in the next couple of months I think.

@@NolanGunn Thats good news, look forward, thank you.

Couldn’t agree more 👌🏼

Thanks as always Steve!

Thanks!

Sounds great Ari! Glad you gave it a shot.

Yeah you can buy a new body for $1500 in the US right now. Crazy value!

That’s awesome!

So the 1.5x apsc mode would put it at a 30-90 with less bokeh separation. Still a great option!

@@NolanGunn To be clear it's the same depth of field (DOF) at the same distance - exactly the same as taking a 1.5x crop from the full frame. The DOF difference is only relevant when you want the same framing as the full frame. If you stand the same distance from the subject you will be shooting 20mm at full frame and 30mm at crop (tighter on the subject) but with the same DOF. Altrnatively you would need to shoot at 1.5 times the distance (approx) from the subject to have the same amount in the frame with the crop mode but you end up with a deeper depth of field.

Correct 👍🏼

Great choice for sure!

A Nikon for video is like buying a football to play basketball….

If your focus is on landscape, having amazing color may be your best bet in the Canon. I think the S5 would be great for landscape and amazing for video, but if you’re shooting photo more and landscape is priority - go with Canon.

I really like Urth's ND's - great quality for the price.

Interesting!

What’s interesting is the S5 is technically smaller than the GH5! I would highly recommend the S5 - better image, low light, and photos. Even with the kit lens you would have an amazing travel video camera and amazing photo camera.

@@NolanGunn I know it’ll be a bit of work but could you consider doing a video on MFT 4K60 video vs the FF->APSC cropped 4k60 for a comparison? I see videos saying the crop is a negative but its still bigger than MFT so whats the con?

Great idea! I’ll have to do that at some point.

The 24-70 would be a great option if you have the budget for it. But my setup is the 20-60 for wide shots, 50 for interviews, and sigma 18-35 for cropped 4k60.

Thanks so much! Here’s the link na.panasonic.com/us/cinema-cameras/varicam-lut-library

@@NolanGunn thanks Nolan, appreciate it.

Great thoughts - the ninja 5 is definitely next up on the list of upgrades. Still blows me away you can literally upgrade to FF raw for $600!

@@NolanGunn You will find the Ninja V for $399 on Amazon. Then you will need a couple of good batteries, a mount, a good HDMI cable and a flash drive. $150 would cover that. (WD Blue SSD's are currently around the $100 mark and work great) Don't forget, though, RAW video files are massive and take up a tonne of hard drive space. When I put my 1TB flash drive on the Ninja it tells me I only have about 56 minutes recording time! You get 4 hours when you switch to Prores HQ instead of RAW. Which goes back to 10 bit color. Which is still great, but just to say, it's great having RAW, but only use it on really important shoots, clients, or your own short films. The Prores files are still amazing and in general I will mix between Prores and Prores RAW on a shoot, only using the RAW where I am worried I will need more latitude in post. The sensor in the S5 is the same sensor as the S1H as you know and it shares the color science on the Arris. The Prores HQ images that come out of that camera are top of the line, brother. It is hands down the single best deal in town by far. Happy shooting.

Great thoughts and thanks for the recommendations! It’s incredible what this camera is capable of.

I've seen the rumors!

It works great for low pressure talking head autofocus and works great for photo AF. I’d highly recommend it.

Absolutely!

Great combo! I actually have had decent luck with AF on the Lumix 20-60, but not running around stuff.

@@NolanGunn yeah, with native lens it"s doable for a lot of situations, even when my kids are not running much.

Absolutely! The algorithm is pretty much perfect, it’s just the DFD that struggled.

Hahaha but I’m afraid Dave Ramsey would ambush me in the dark right after I ordered one on credit 😬

@@NolanGunn lol

Great plan!

Depends, you get banding and some blotchy coloring in 8 bit vlog, but you can get away with it. I just prefer 10 bit because i can see a difference. And 100% agree on the IBIS piece, it would take a miracle to engineer something like that. Maybe lenses will play a part!

I don’t believe so no.

The S1H is the Netflix approved camera, but they share the same sensor.

@@NolanGunn yes, I agree but Panasonic would not even give it the full 10 but 4.2.2 for the 4K 60p. You would need a recorder to get the RAW files to compete and have victory over the others….. still, no 4k 120p. I love the S5 and it was on my cart for a long time but this new Fuji camera especially with its new Flog2 may be the talk of town soon lol though sadly it is more expensive.

Yeah definitely. Fuji is great for many things!

Xh2s is still an APSC camera thou… it can be packed with 382993 things and features, I have the XT4 - which beats it actually in some regards, and thats the reason I do not wish to get ANOTHER APSC … S5 its full frame - right off the bat, opens other options. However, at the moment I can’t make up my mind between the S5 , the A74 and / or the S1H !?!?!? 🤦🏻‍♂️😓

@@JohnJordache That's such a hard decision! Value, autofocus, and video features all competing for your money!

Depends what you need - what are you shooting?

S5 easily

@@NolanGunn I’m shooting a lot events, automotive content, portrait video, interviews, weddings. Just a general mix of stuff. Wanted something to hold up decent in low light and have great autofocus so I don’t have to worry about it.

Canon will definitely serve you better in the AF department.

Great thoughts! That's a fantastic A-B setup. I'll probably replace one of my G85s with a GH5 at some point since they're absurdly cheap now.

Great idea!

@@NolanGunn ahaha well its ok . sorry for that I am happy where I am .

a74? I'd love to do a video on them if i can get ahold of one.

Plus the 20-60mm is now 20-120mm on video :D

I’m not so sure - I think if you handed a professional a GH6 or an S5 they could get better results with the S5.

@@NolanGunn In the videography/cinematography arena, “professional” is as ambiguous a term as it is relative. There are creative professionals, and technical professionals. Realistically, either one should be able to produce real world usable industry results with any flagship camera released in the last seven or eight years, maybe even ten… The GH5/GH5II/GH5S, definitely… A KZfaqr complaining about todays cameras, is a bit like a ride share driver complaining they can’t pick people up without a Tesla Model 3 Performance, because they really need that 3.1/sec 0-60 and Autopilot to affectively do Lyft or fUber… …

Fair point 👍🏼 I agree it doesn’t really matter once you get to that level as much - but I think the image looks better on S5 and is technically better in many ways while also giving you full frame Raw external. But you’re right that a cinematographer would get amazing results no matter what.

4k60 uncropped? or regular 4k 24p?

@@NolanGunn yes that is where peoples get confused. I'd love full clarity on the issueI know it is a slight crop du to difference in aspect btwn 16x9 and 4/3 but in full mode, it is using most of the 6000x4000 to make your UHD.

Interesting.

I can definitely relate! I wonder often how they make all that money… who knows. Glad you like the S5! It truly is a fantastic camera for pro work.

I still love m43! Amazing system.

Great points! I'll check out that video. Thanks for your perspective.

I don’t think it’s an issue, but thanks for the heads up!

Oh weird. I just rewatched the video and it’s perfectly in sync. My bad.

Ha no worries!

I know!! I can't even look now because the price is so good...

Absolutely.

Awesome!

@@NolanGunn thanks, this is my first mirrorless camera, I used my mobile camera earlier. So getting started a new chapter for me..

Fair points for sure! I really appreciate the feedback - I think the GFX is an amazing camera, but I've used Fuji and don't love the interface plus it's geared more toward photo than video whereas Panasonic is so good about video and video features (plus the Fuji price of course!). Everyone has different use cases, i appreciate you sharing some of yours 👍🏻

@@NolanGunn hi again. I am a university professor in env studies who during the pandemic pre-recorded some lectures using my G80 (your G85) and now with a G9 I have two cameras to use for maybe doing interviews as part of classes (recorded videos) or can record from two directions and then edit together in post if I want. Given what students were otherwise 2020-2022 seeing over Zoom most of my students loved the video quality (8 bit ungraded but at least it wasn't a webcam!) and the audio and... since I filmed sometimes at a location (not home, not in the office) that dovetailed into the lecture subject students found my productions incredibly engaging. For my needs, get everything more or less right while filming, I don't have time for color grading 10-bit color even if I had had it in the past, and incredibly satisfied students (and instructor). Plus since content was being seen seldom on a screen larger than 14inches and extremely seldom seen on screens with better resolution 1920*1080 what is the point of "an upgrade"...and I don't want massive video files causing lag on possible poor internet connections with the students... then "inferior" MFT 8-bit is more than good enough (?). In a few years I will be 60. The internet has plenty of testimonials from oldish people who lugged full Canon and Nikon kits for decades and switched to Olympus/OM, Panasonic Lumix or even Fujifilm .. JOY returned to their photography and the videos they make. You may experience this some day too 😉 btw yes I would have to augment my MFT kit if I took up filming night time orienteering competitions in the woods in the rain... (I exaggerated to prove a point) but 95/100 times or more my MFT gear works great for my use case. The best camera is the one your have with you, you know how to use, and you (and others) are happy with the results. So have you ditched the G85? But perhaps I am mistaken but didn't you ask like half a year ago or less if YT watchers on your channel would like to see tutorials about the G85 or maybe I mixed this up with another channel. Now with your move to S5 I guess this won't be happening? I get it and we all have our rationale and use cases.