Throwback pastor reacts to John Piper

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@anthonym.7653
@anthonym.7653 7 ай бұрын
Piper has been preaching a whole other gospel for a long time now.
@VinceOlson96
@VinceOlson96 7 ай бұрын
John Piper looks physically and mentally ill here
@zacy-t2771
@zacy-t2771 4 ай бұрын
Yeah he does. I’m noticing a trend of this between pastors with warped theologies, they just act kinda strange.
@Gasowsj8383
@Gasowsj8383 3 ай бұрын
​@@zacy-t2771They're all demon possessed.
@angiew2324
@angiew2324 Ай бұрын
A little off subject but he reminds me of Bernie Sanders. 😂
@FloridaMark1611
@FloridaMark1611 7 ай бұрын
Tulip is a wicked flower.
@Wisppp_
@Wisppp_ Ай бұрын
I used to really like Piper. I’ve never heard him say something like this until now. I’m floored.
@allysonp2254
@allysonp2254 7 ай бұрын
Wow, just wow!!! And, the manic body language 🤪
@bwink23
@bwink23 6 ай бұрын
He is manifesting demons
@meravids6740
@meravids6740 4 ай бұрын
My hair stood on end the first two seconds.
@mechaishida7588
@mechaishida7588 7 ай бұрын
To be perfectly honest, even prior to realising that Piper was ‘Reformed’, I found myself being put off by his erratic mannerisms and wild gesturing. Even now it makes me cringe, more so because what he’s conveying so emphatically is a false Gospel!
@FlyDog79
@FlyDog79 7 ай бұрын
I’ve never even seen him preach until that short segment and I couldn’t wait for it to end.
@JamestrustsGod777
@JamestrustsGod777 6 ай бұрын
This clip of John Piper always gets me. I kind of laugh when I see it too. It's like he's having a manic episode.
@williammiles459
@williammiles459 7 ай бұрын
I notice the deterministic teachers using adverbs/adjectives, always qualifying the precious Gospel.
@garyburns1033
@garyburns1033 7 ай бұрын
You Do Get To Heaven By Faith Alone in the Finished Work of Christ Jesus ❤Don’t let anyone Tell You Differently
@FlyDog79
@FlyDog79 7 ай бұрын
💯
@RawLoveRaw
@RawLoveRaw 7 ай бұрын
Sermon on the Mount???
@woodswalker64
@woodswalker64 7 ай бұрын
Your faith MUST be accompanied by works - James 2:22, 2:24, & 2:18.
@dough3821
@dough3821 6 ай бұрын
@@RawLoveRaw The Sermon on the Mount condemns each and every individual. NO ONE can obey all of those commands. Also, remember that you would have to keep each and every command perfectly if you ever hope to get to heaven by your works. That means if you've ever lusted after a woman one single time in your life (Matt. 5:28), you are doomed. We're all doomed and headed for hell if our works or obedience have any role to play whatsoever in getting us to heaven. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:23-24).
@dough3821
@dough3821 6 ай бұрын
@@woodswalker64 Salvation is not some kind of cooperative effort. It's a FREE GIFT that is received by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone. "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5). James 2:14-26 is written to BELIEVERS to urge them to make their faith PROFITABLE to themselves and others. While justification before God is through faith alone (Eph. 2:8-9), other people cannot see our faith; rather, they can only see our works. Furthermore, there will be great profit in the form of future reward for the believer in Jesus Christ who walks according to good works in this life.
@minorsingingairhead
@minorsingingairhead 7 ай бұрын
The most respected false teacher in evangelical christendom.
@natureboy2396
@natureboy2396 7 ай бұрын
Amen brother.
@johnnyrose6052
@johnnyrose6052 7 ай бұрын
Let's throw some Works in the mix as well
@dough3821
@dough3821 6 ай бұрын
Yes, but be sure you don't put the cart before the horse. If you throw works in the mix in order to earn, maintain, or "prove" your salvation, you will wind up in hell according to the Bible. "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5)."
@LifeClipsPodcast
@LifeClipsPodcast 7 ай бұрын
WOW!! I always reflect upon Galatians 1 - another gospel. Another Jesus...yikes. That is some scary stuff. BUT so is John P : )
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
Right on! - Trent
@zeljkonedimovic206
@zeljkonedimovic206 7 ай бұрын
I can't believe what I'm hearing! And why this kind of gesticulation!?
@ElizabethW70
@ElizabethW70 4 ай бұрын
There is a Pastor in Barrie Ontario, Canada who is so impressed & believes everything John Piper says, that he actually sounds & acts like him when he's preaching. Oh & Yes he's a Calvinist, too. This Pastor gave the whole congregation a John Piper book to read.
@graftme3168
@graftme3168 6 ай бұрын
Is Piper losing it?
@AbideMinistriesJesus
@AbideMinistriesJesus 23 күн бұрын
“Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5‬:‭1‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@YHWHJ316
@YHWHJ316 7 ай бұрын
Looks a bit crazy 😂
@MichaelMckamieHunger4truth
@MichaelMckamieHunger4truth 7 ай бұрын
We are saved by grace, through faith. But works is proof that you are saved. James 2:20 james2:18 James 2:26 rev. 20:12.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
Works are not proof of salvation, but they are proof you are a profitable believer toward others and God. - Trent
@dough3821
@dough3821 6 ай бұрын
James 2:14-26 is written to BELIEVERS to urge them to make their faith PROFITABLE to themselves and others. While justification before God is through faith alone (Eph. 2:8-9), other people cannot see our faith; rather, they can only see our works. Furthermore, there will be great profit in the form of future reward for the believer in Jesus Christ who walks according to good works in this life. If you think your works prove that you are saved, that can only prove that you are lost. John 5:24 says that we have already passed from death unto life from the moment we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Works are not mentioned in this verse, because works cannot in any way, shape, or form be added to the gospel (either on the front end or back end).
@bwink23
@bwink23 6 ай бұрын
Who are you proving salvation to? Jesus? The one who gave it to you as a gift? Is Jesus an Indian giver now?
@markseowlichang123
@markseowlichang123 5 ай бұрын
Piper is basically saying: Christ died got nothing.
@Gasowsj8383
@Gasowsj8383 4 ай бұрын
He hates Jesus and he hates God's Grace.
@ReformedMike
@ReformedMike 3 ай бұрын
@@Gasowsj8383😂😂😂😂😂
@Gasowsj8383
@Gasowsj8383 3 ай бұрын
@@ReformedMike I don't know what you find so funny. John Piper is an unsaved devil who's going straight to hell and will bring thousands with him.
@stefanlabuschagne1
@stefanlabuschagne1 7 ай бұрын
Greetings from rural central South Africa. My question always is how much love must be shown? How much good works? How many sins to be repented of? Give the number. Becuase if you have to show love, repent of sins, do good works how will I ever know I have reached the goal? And if you cant know if you reached the required tarket then The Word of God must be false because 1 Jn 5:13 states a person can know based on Christ’s work.
@panama2468
@panama2468 7 ай бұрын
If works are not a part of the deal, then why even make the verse that says that "by their fruit you shall know them". Clearly at least a single action is required to show change. If not, then that verse is meaningless
@stefanlabuschagne1
@stefanlabuschagne1 7 ай бұрын
Ok is the single good action the by-product (show) of God giving me the unearned gift of being a child of God? Or is the single good action the work I must to do to earn the free gift from God of naking me His child? I really dont want to bring devide between believers but I think we must underdtand the Word of God better and talk about it as all off us are so trapped in human church traditions.
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
The phrase “ye shall know them by their fruits” is not even in reference to knowing if a person is saved or not. It’s referencing knowing a false teacher by what they teach; their words. - Trent
@redeemed2517
@redeemed2517 6 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine🎯
@nicholasnovak4
@nicholasnovak4 7 ай бұрын
"by grace, through faith".... By grace alone, through faith alone... "And it is not of your own works lest anyone should boast, but is a gift of God "...
@timlund747
@timlund747 7 ай бұрын
Faith without work is dead.
@ianhelgerson6146
@ianhelgerson6146 7 ай бұрын
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
@JesusIsGodInTheFlesh3
@JesusIsGodInTheFlesh3 5 ай бұрын
​@@ianhelgerson6146Praise God! God bless you brother, I see the Holy Spirit in you using the word of God to make your point.
@AbideMinistriesJesus
@AbideMinistriesJesus 23 күн бұрын
@@ianhelgerson6146amen ❤❤❤Praise Jesus
@zacy-t2771
@zacy-t2771 4 ай бұрын
Bro I’m sorry but what is he doing with his arms 😭
@SahihChristian
@SahihChristian 3 ай бұрын
These are the people bashing the charismatics 😩
@clkasozi2954
@clkasozi2954 5 ай бұрын
Lets also add that although we are saved through faith alone...one shouldnt continue living in sin.....at a distance y'all are advocating for yhe samething
@thehoopmagician2672
@thehoopmagician2672 Ай бұрын
It’s horrible these doctrines can make anyone go mad
@GodSeekerElijah
@GodSeekerElijah 3 ай бұрын
Think about it. Hes redefining faith, because the definition of faith is different than the way faith was practiced in the bible. Abraham wasn't faithful just because of His beliefs, but his actions matched up with His beliefs. Thats true faith.
@Luke-tk9lm
@Luke-tk9lm 2 ай бұрын
Abraham wasn’t always faithful in his actions. He lied. He heeded to to leadership of his wife (just like Adam did with Eve) and produced an illegitimate child with Hagar. However, because Abraham was justified by faith, God did not impute Abraham’s sins to him.
@RawLoveRaw
@RawLoveRaw 7 ай бұрын
If good works were not absolutely necessary, why did Jesus give the Sermon on the Mount!!??
@ianhelgerson6146
@ianhelgerson6146 5 ай бұрын
To show sin is deeper than just physical action, that we are also judged on our thoughts and content of heart. No where in the sermon on the mount does Jesus say we need good works to be saved. Read the new testament and see how blatantly we are saved by faith, not works. It's said time and time again.
@Billy-Brown
@Billy-Brown 2 ай бұрын
Piper it don’t matter how you try and wrap that one up …. It’s still works you still hold the teachings of JC higher than the scripture You follow and worship the wrong JC the power he has from his pulpit is incredible you can almost picture the congregation drinking this down Pray for him the whole church that someone may come into his life to get him to see reason for he is long in years God bless great clip very alarming to be honest
@valerinaneverson4724
@valerinaneverson4724 7 ай бұрын
U MUST 1st "BELIEVE" ... 😘 .... 2nd WORSHIP him in SPIRIT & TRUTH..... 3rd... OBEDIENCE is better than sacrifice
@paulmkz
@paulmkz 6 ай бұрын
Saved by grace through faith. This isn't complicated. If you are dying from being dehydrated and need water and turn on a pipe and drink water. What saved you? The pipe? The water? Or the pipe and the water????........ It's the water. Water is like grace. The cells in your body need what ? Its water. A pipe does nothing for your cells. A pipe and water can't fit into your cells . It's just water alone. That is what grace is. Your sins need grace to cover them.
@kimberly5465
@kimberly5465 6 ай бұрын
So, he's saying salvation comes some time after faith. What about the blood sacrifice that Jesus paid? Doesn't this just loop back around to works in some way?
@doyouknowjesus1132
@doyouknowjesus1132 Ай бұрын
Faith is required. it's believing Jesus is the Christ and what he has done at the cross of calvary. turning away from sin. anybody can have faith, but not everyone believes in Jesus Christ who is and always was God.
@PhilOverstreet
@PhilOverstreet 3 ай бұрын
This isn’t a reformed position. What’s the point of attacking Calvinism though? And I would ask Calvinists what’s the point of attacking Armenianism. We shouldn’t divide over open handed issues. The body of Christ is one. Back to piper though: I think he was trying to tie in salvation by grace alone through faith alone with James 2 but didn’t explain it well.
@SheepofChrist818
@SheepofChrist818 6 ай бұрын
He teaches a wicked gospel
@sharonlouise9759
@sharonlouise9759 7 ай бұрын
"What??!!" Where does the Bible say that? Oh... it doesn't.
@RawLoveRaw
@RawLoveRaw 7 ай бұрын
Sermon on the Mount!?!?
@TheScribe88
@TheScribe88 7 ай бұрын
To be saved yes faith in Jesus Christ. And keep his commandments. #1 commandment that counts for all is love the neighbor as you love thyself. Demonstrate love for if you are willing to do help someone than you truly love them, talk to them, stear them towards Christ and help them attain their salvation. Not just bury the treasure Jesus Christ gave you but share it with thy neighbor and all who are in your life and around you, and come across. Love those who are turned away from Jesus Christ for we were that person once and someone talked to us bout Jesus and gave us the good news out of love. Share it brethren. GOD bless you in Jesus Christ mighty name, Amen 🙏
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
You never always keep that commandment. You do not have to love others to remain saved. Believing in Christ is what saved and keeps saved. Loving properly is what you’re capable of doing because you’re saved. You now posses the Spirit by faith in Christ, and you can walk in Him. - Trent
@TheScribe88
@TheScribe88 7 ай бұрын
@@BibleLine yes, I agree we can fail at everything, we aren't perfect but that's what Jesus commanded so we gotta do our best to follow through for he loves everyone. So must we. It's hard I get it especially when someone does you wrong, or even harms you, but the Holy spirit will keep you at peace no matter what your going through. Seek Christ's face, ask to have a personal encounter with Christ. I had mine and my life in an instant changed. Not how I expected but I died and that's how I had my encounter with Christ Jesus my LORD and Saviour. I was giving another chance at life, I am being led as much as I possible can by the Holy Spirit I see him working in my life with even the simplest things. Thank GOD for this new life and the edifying and molding that's going on in my character and my life. I'm not perfect and he knows that I fail more than I would care to admit to myself but he still loves me no matter what. Embraces me with open arms and I want to just share this JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE, and IS KING. SURRENDER TO HIM, FULL FAITH IN HIM BRETHREN. Most people say they have faith in him but I see it more often than I expect is that they say they have faith but their actions don't agree with their words. It's hard I get it cause most people with their mindset, theirs built lives they took years to have and to pick up their cross while everyone "thinks" they are doing good is so difficult. Most people want to fit GOD into their busy lives and that's not how this works. Give your life to CHRIST and let him mold, guide and change you into the person he knows is best for you. Most peoples schedule is 8-10 hrs for work, 2 hours for fam, 2 hours for gym or video games, 1 hour for GOD if that, 6-8 hrs sleep. And what we must do is give 24 hrs to GOD and let him sort out the life he knows your truly gonna be happy and let yourself be guided and actually listen to his voice.
@2411Stuart
@2411Stuart 7 ай бұрын
HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THOUGH 😮 💯 THE MAN OF JEHOVAH IS CORRECT IN ALL HE IS PROCLAIMING FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND!😮 YOU NEED TO GO AND SHOW THYSELF APPROVED.😮 CAUSE YOU ARE NOT SHOWING ANY SIGNSOF A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN AND U CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN YOURSELF WORTHY OF KNOWLEDGE OF, OR BEING TRUSTED WITH LEADING HIS PEOPLE!😮 ✌🏿❤️🙏🏿💯
@gerzonmondragon5954
@gerzonmondragon5954 7 ай бұрын
So did Jesus lie to the thief on the cross. Where was his good works. I no way think we should sin and not do good works because that is the fruit of the spirit and we will know them by there fruits.
@RawLoveRaw
@RawLoveRaw 7 ай бұрын
Was He lying when He gave the Sermon on the Mount?
@gerzonmondragon5954
@gerzonmondragon5954 7 ай бұрын
@@RawLoveRaw are you claiming that HE did
@robbieg.3462
@robbieg.3462 7 ай бұрын
I like your content. Piper is a great man of God andI have learned a lot from his teaching. I’ll admit his word use on this particular subject can be alittle iffy. He’s not wrong though. If faith without works is a DEAD faith, then that dead faith will not save you. And here he is talking of ‘the fruit of love’ from genuine faith. Love of God and neighbor which fulfills the entirety of the law according to Paul and Christ. And 1 Corinthians 13. It’s safe to say that a faith that exudes no love, is not a genuine saving faith.
@robbieg.3462
@robbieg.3462 7 ай бұрын
Btw, people use the thief on the cross as an example of faith alone, which is fine, he clearly wasn’t able to perform any works. But he DID show good fruit of compassion/love towards Christ. Now whether or not we will consider love as a fruit or a work or both im not so sure.
@DavidWilliams-jt1im
@DavidWilliams-jt1im 7 ай бұрын
Moses wasn't allowed into Canaan due to his unbelief! He certainly knew God existed and he had tremendous faith! His unbelief was disobedience! He repented and was later ressurected by Michael and was seen again by Jesus on the mount of transfiguration! It's all a gift even faith, but we HAVE to consent! We HAVE to obey! The commandments hang on: love God with your body,heart mind and soul and love your neighbor as we are to love ourselves! Not to get saved, but because we are saved!
@landrewmackinnon4888
@landrewmackinnon4888 7 ай бұрын
What?
@oscarholley891
@oscarholley891 7 ай бұрын
Wow you saying you are justified by faith alone but you just don't get to heaven when god justifies you because you are resting in the person and work of Christ he says it must be accompanied by your ability to love which human love is not gods love and its based on your ability to love like god as if God expects humans to love like him i see god saving us first and etching into our souls his love so we can share it with others but in order for this to happen we have to be justified first so we can acquire fruits of the spirit but if our ability to love is the requirement then we all have failed and will continue to fail because even believers will fall short of the fruits of the spirit because we will never ever never ever express the fruits of the spirit perfectly so hes being legalistic about the fruits of the spirit something i did when i was a perfectionistic always looking at my thoughts ,feelings and emotions and responces and always seeing i came up short so i had to punish me both me and god was pissed that i fell short now i got to punish myself according to both myself and god be cause he was unhappy with me
@jasonh1685
@jasonh1685 7 ай бұрын
Actually, you are not guaranteed a space in heaven, and only through good deeds and repentance. Does a person find forgiveness from sins in order to achieve a status in one of the glories of heaven. It states in the scriptures that God cannot look upon evil, and Jesus is the mediator… God resides in heaven, and our souls cannot withstand his presence when we have sin attached to our souls… Jesus does not automatically remove the stains of our souls without us, repenting and doing the best life instead of what we want we do what he wants which is not the fun life but a respectful and meaningful life that is unselfish. Jesus is the teacher and the scriptures explain what it will be like for those that repent, for those that do not, and for those that do not know.
@davidcardona2974
@davidcardona2974 7 ай бұрын
Revelations 20: 13. Not faith alone. We will be judged by our acts. You’re just another phony like that guy
@BibleLine
@BibleLine 7 ай бұрын
That judgment is for unbelievers. Nonetheless, believers will be judged according to their works, but it is because they already ARE in possession of eternal life. Cf 1 Cor. 3:10-16 - Trent
@michaelmassar7786
@michaelmassar7786 7 ай бұрын
Didn't Jesus himself say there can be no faith without works, meaning that true faith bears fruit.
@antonbierman1062
@antonbierman1062 7 ай бұрын
What?
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