Holley & Edelbrock Fuel Bypass System: Return Line to Tank Connection (EASY & SIMPLIFIED)

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ThunderHead289

ThunderHead289

Күн бұрын

The SIMPLEST way to CORRECTLY return fuel to your tank on a return style fuel system!!
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some items from my personal bypass set up:
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@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
just a quicky for you guys today - if you go with a fuel return line/bypass system on a classic, this thing makes it easy: amzn.to/2W0uoNT later in the week here i'll have a video on setting your distributor curve - stay tuned ya toobies. Also, enjoy my “equivocate” where I was trying to say equate 😂
@lolathedog7
@lolathedog7 4 жыл бұрын
ThunderHead289 still wanna see that Mook tag team video sir thunder cock
@philr300
@philr300 4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it. "Equivocate" is a perfectly cromulent word. :-)
@john242ti
@john242ti 4 жыл бұрын
Is the F250 getting this setup as well? I bet the 390FE would be happier with it...
@XxMusclecarsxX
@XxMusclecarsxX 4 жыл бұрын
It also helps prolong electric fuel pump life for street use!
@ddgatewood71
@ddgatewood71 4 жыл бұрын
Your system is one of the first "mods" I'm doing to the Dodge. Thanks for the breakdown.
@NGH99999
@NGH99999 4 жыл бұрын
Love this concept. It's like you're using fuel to create a dedicated cooling system for the carb.
@doublem9186
@doublem9186 4 жыл бұрын
I did this to 76 F150 after watching your video , fixed my problems! Thank you!
@raymondw7875
@raymondw7875 4 жыл бұрын
Where to put the return line had me stumped for a while too. I addressed it by buying a piece of 3/8 in. x 12 in. pre-made steel brake line, cut one end off, drilled a hole in the sending unit cover on the tank, and soldered the 3/8 in. tube in place. Granted this did require dropping the tank and creating a small bracket to support the return tube just as the supply line is supported, which I tack welded in place. But it is another solid and cost effective solution, like the one you suggest in this video. Your earlier videos helped me realize my Holley Red pump was causing my carb to flood so adding a regulator let me to this. Thanks for all your great tips! I've learned a lot and will continue following closely.
@4powerstroke40
@4powerstroke40 3 жыл бұрын
Luke is my favorite car guy. Genuine good dude.
@michaelhunter8644
@michaelhunter8644 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're doing this to help people out I hope they are too
@dlucas527
@dlucas527 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I hired several guys to solve this issue for me and they never told me what the issue was. I was sure it wasn't the carburetor. My carb was new. After seeing this series on vapor lock I am sure these guys knew what this was and hesitated to tell me. My car had a dedicated return line but without the original carburetor, it was never hooked up. I even asked about it because in old photos the line was hooked up. I was told it wasn't necessary. Truly it is necessary. Lesson learned.
@hardball107
@hardball107 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, I do the same thing for my FI conversions, even for returnless set up's. We might have discussed this before but I remove the filler neck and give it a good scrubbing, using 3/8 brake line I drill a hole in the neck as low as possible, put a 120* bend in the brake line and cut it off so most of the bend is there, put it through the hole and lay the line over on to the neck and solder it in place. A hose clamp supports the line to the neck and a 3/8" inverted flare to a barb or AN fitting adaptor is installed for connection to your return line. Works like a champ. I do this even on a returnless system except I install a tee somewhere in the high pressure line after the fuel rail, tap the internal bore of the tee and install a pipe plug with a .5mm (.018") hole in it to bypass a small amount of fuel back to the tank. Always cool fuel at the injectors and flowing through the pump, no bubbles or vapor locking at the injectors and unless your pushing over 600 HP a stock pump will provide plenty of fuel. $5 in parts.
@grouprocox
@grouprocox 4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of doing this on my 62 galaxie! Inspired by you my man
@jamesmartin2339
@jamesmartin2339 4 жыл бұрын
I liked your comment on the fact that a carburetor is a static output fuel delivery system. It does not adjust like fuel injection. So you want to keep the fuel input as static as possible for consistent results.
@corbastang84
@corbastang84 4 жыл бұрын
I can say this will definitely help me! Thanks Luke!
@daniellachance9730
@daniellachance9730 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! Thanks again for your help. Going to convert my plymouth. Thanks again.!
@CrazyPetez
@CrazyPetez 4 жыл бұрын
I like this video. My only car with a carburetor, my 1869 Corvette still has the original type fuel filter that has a second outlet. It’s a very small, sends fuel back to the tank via a separate return line. Chevrolet’s reasoning was that the return helped keep the fuel cool. A lot of guys on the Corvette Forum don’t believe that and remove it. Their loss.
@1439of2000
@1439of2000 4 жыл бұрын
Did the 1869 models run on lamp oil?
@boysrback5690
@boysrback5690 4 жыл бұрын
Real horses
@CrazyPetez
@CrazyPetez 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Gilling Nothing so common as just any old lamp oil. They ran on whale oil.
@hddm3
@hddm3 4 жыл бұрын
Great tips bud! Thank you
@davidmckinney6577
@davidmckinney6577 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke it's a nice day here in Kentucky I'm going to get my dogs out too buddy have a good day buddy 👍😎👌
@roberthemphill8588
@roberthemphill8588 4 жыл бұрын
Good one Luke...enjoy the dogs!
@michaelhunter8644
@michaelhunter8644 4 жыл бұрын
I do like the music you choose for your videos to thanks
@gregboyd4509
@gregboyd4509 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Very new to carburetors and your videos have done alot for me with my Edelbrock on my 88 Grand Wagoneer.
@matthewreno8844
@matthewreno8844 4 жыл бұрын
I've got an 89 GW I'm working on.
@gregboyd4509
@gregboyd4509 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewreno8844 Good year to have. LOVE mine!
@ianwillett3384
@ianwillett3384 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks 👍
@IMPALA96SS
@IMPALA96SS 2 ай бұрын
That's how you make a pull g. nice work!!
@firstrespondergarage
@firstrespondergarage Жыл бұрын
Yes sir this works well for supercharged applications even better. 😉
@shanewright6958
@shanewright6958 4 жыл бұрын
Great job and video 👍👍🇨🇱
@erykzintak4936
@erykzintak4936 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video luke ive got a shortbox 79 f 100 and im gunna have to do fuel return cause shes rich and ive been through 3 carbs to figure it out
@edwardojr2838
@edwardojr2838 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen the filler neck tap before for the fuel return, nice mod Luke! What I did for my fuel return is: my truck came with a charcoal canister that was disconnected. That canister had a hard line back to the fuel tank itself. If u no longer use that can, utilize that hard line as a return for fuel. Be sure to clean it all out before u start bypassing fuel into it
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Here is what I don’t like about that - it will build pressure on the line which makes it hard to control your fuel pressure. I tried that in this truck, even cutting it back way by the tank where the restriction was essentially small and I still had issues. If you put a pressure gauge on your return line, it needs to read 0. But it does depend on the fuel pump you run also - Im on a big electric unit so that I bypass a healthy amount
@edwardojr2838
@edwardojr2838 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 Very true! I had just switched to an electric pump last month. Its slowly growing on me. I have a pressure gauge on my regulator as well as my carb side. Both read different numbers till I went to the red holley pump. I noticed your regulator is after the carb, is that preferable? My regulator is before my carb
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
It depends what style of return you are running - a dedicated bypass regulator is extremely effective after the carb
@MustangGuy6501
@MustangGuy6501 4 жыл бұрын
That was my idea not exactly but I was wondering if I could just tap in to my filler neck it will be easy in my 65 mustang great video
@user-yn1kx2mn9i
@user-yn1kx2mn9i 9 ай бұрын
There’s a emissions 3/8 line that runs down the passenger side frame rail that I used for the return. All of these trucks has it and it goes from what people call the coffee can under the hood and runs right to the top of the gas tank where it goes in and you don’t have to drop the tank or run a line the length of the truck. You just need 3 ft of 3/8 fuel line and a T with the regulator after the T and of course you need a electric fuel pump and I put mine right at the tank on the frame. It works perfectly and you won’t ever have to worry about vapor lock again and the cool fuel probably helps on power and fuel mileage
@AndyL940
@AndyL940 4 жыл бұрын
Pulling in the truck ( intro ) has a whole different meaning down here in the south...🤣
@zagor1453
@zagor1453 2 жыл бұрын
Genius idea,, filler neck
@stevescubas
@stevescubas 4 жыл бұрын
That is slick !
@johdirt7843
@johdirt7843 3 жыл бұрын
Question: Looking to do this on a '61 CJ5. The mechanical fuel pump typically draws from a fitting on the top of the tank. The fitting is connected to a fuel pick-up tube. I known the pumps do better with pushing fuel than they do with pulling and was wondering what you suggest. I could always put a fitting/barb on the bottom of the tank and take advantage of gravity, but the pressure of the fuel above the pickup tube should help force / draw fuel through the system.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks so much my friend
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 4 жыл бұрын
Have you found that adding the return feed to the filler neck has impacted fuel filling? Does the pump run wide open and click off properly like usual?
@baltod4978
@baltod4978 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I'm trying to keep my girlfriends grandpas truck running/alive- so she won't want to get rid of it, but it's pretty unreliable as it sits. It starts up and appears to drive just fine- but once warmed up, she loses power and eventually stalls. We also get vapor lock when attempting to start a hot truck- so I'm hoping that in following in your footsteps, we can make the truck reliable again. Do you have a video on how you did the electric fuel pump? That would be super helpful. I know in one of your videos- you said you wanted the pump to be rated HIGHER than what you'd want the regulator to be set to ('14 psi pump w/ a return regulator at 6 psi'), and I believe I might have found a mechanical edelbrock pump that is rated to put out 10. But if switching to electric is easier, I might just do that. Thanks again.
@nursecuenca
@nursecuenca 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I want to install filler neck return line to help with my truck heat soak issues. If I purchase filler neck to I also need to purchase pump? Or does it return fuel by gravity once the engine is shut off?
@MrMichaelbuesing
@MrMichaelbuesing 3 жыл бұрын
My fuel pump has a return line. I added a fuel pressure regulator and it helped. If I upgrade to a FP regulator with a return can I 'T' into the return line from the fuel pump? If so, I may put a bleed valve at the end of the carb fuel rail. Plumbing is my weakness...
@vigt548
@vigt548 Жыл бұрын
`Mystery finally solved. I never knew how to get the returned fuel into the tank.
@johnburch6927
@johnburch6927 2 жыл бұрын
Long live the carburetor!!
@thekehoeshow..
@thekehoeshow.. 4 жыл бұрын
How about if I have dual tanks? A switch valve I suppose... Thanks for the video.
@Keegan_Lynch
@Keegan_Lynch Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a sbc 350 with a 4150 650CFM and a fuel rail on it pumped by a Holley red electronic pump. Have the issue where it’s plumbing way too much fuel and starts overflowing that carb really fast. Do you think I could put a pressure regulator and return line on the other end of my fuel rail to help regulate the rail pressure so it doesn’t do that or does it need to be before the fuel rail?
@dlucas527
@dlucas527 2 жыл бұрын
The filler neck is a great tip. My car has a return line already in place but for some reason, it was disconnected. I want to reinstall it. The line seems fine. How do I test it to make sure it's ok to reconnect? I wouldn't want to put any trash into the tank from an old line. Any suggestions?
@buick1955
@buick1955 3 жыл бұрын
On many Fords from the 70s they had the egr spacer plate . Is there a easy way to remove it ? Is there a spacer you can buy ? It doesn't look like you can just remove it and set the stock 2bbl right down on the manifold . Always worried the old EGR might leak a bit of vacuum .
@lucianohernandez3468
@lucianohernandez3468 4 жыл бұрын
What about that set up for the regulator what did you bolt that to?do you have to vent the tank And also the return line is metal from the firewall back and just rubber in the bay? Would this work with a 69 f100 I got my tank behind my seat and also a 66 mustang? Any advice is much appreciated
@maddmaxx636
@maddmaxx636 4 жыл бұрын
Would you talk about installing a durapart system or maybe doing the GM HEI system into a Ford? That is the HEI module not a dist. Like how you did it and your thoughts on using a GM HEI since ive heard mixed reviews on the duraspark boxes failing. That is the ones from the auto parts stores. Since a OE box are heard to find nowadays. Great video! Also, can a do a fuel return on a motorcraft 2150? non feedback carb?
@derekjulian9471
@derekjulian9471 3 жыл бұрын
I'm doing a swap from a mechanical fuel injection system to a carburetor on a small block 302. Is it as easy as using a bypass regulator and connecting it between the carburetor and the existing fuel lines?
@gregklubek6016
@gregklubek6016 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use that return line from the old canister venting system that I removed.
@smkymtnguy33
@smkymtnguy33 2 жыл бұрын
Question for this old video: does this return setup give you problems filling at a gas station? I’ve had vehicles that wouldn’t take gas with the pump handle fully open.
@Captgreatvalue
@Captgreatvalue 4 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary if you have a mechanical pump and if I do decide to run a return with a mechanical pump does it make a difference
@matthewreno8844
@matthewreno8844 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find you link to the electric fuel pump? Thanks, and great channel!
@brianhigginbotham4489
@brianhigginbotham4489 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm....u got me thinking- my 79 302 F150 still has one of the old emissions line that runs down the pass side to the rear tank that at the sending unit I could possibly use for a return - one drawback I see off hand is its diameter is very small & may have too much back pressure??
@tri5garage544
@tri5garage544 Жыл бұрын
What in line fuel pumps would you recommend?
@TagGeorge
@TagGeorge 9 ай бұрын
I want your return fuel log. Is that just 3/8 brass barbed T and 3/8 fuel hose? What fitting do you have going from the hose into the inlets?
@richardlumb3354
@richardlumb3354 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to fit a regulator after your mechanical fuel pump without a return line?
@freshbutplain1144
@freshbutplain1144 Ай бұрын
I was wondering. For a carb setup could I just run a corvette filter/regulator and use that as a return? Where it makes return line shorter and not have to come from engine bay?
@davisbradford9080
@davisbradford9080 2 жыл бұрын
can I use the return line that originally went to my mechanical fuel pump as the return the regulator coming from an electric fuel pump.
@realistmw
@realistmw 3 жыл бұрын
What about the return line tube that goes in the tank to prevent aeration
@Steve-nu8xt
@Steve-nu8xt 4 жыл бұрын
I panicked and ran a return directly after the electric pump straight back into the tank. It seems to work. Is it a good idea?
@mmatma31
@mmatma31 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on setting up the transfer slots then starting it and adjusting to run right
@softenerguy
@softenerguy 4 жыл бұрын
He does, just do a quick look at his video logs. Very easy.
@pipelayer79ortiz34
@pipelayer79ortiz34 3 жыл бұрын
Can u run 2 bypass regulator with 1 pump , carb motor
@rong4189
@rong4189 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! I’d like your thoughts on what I was planning to do, if possible. In my ‘74 D100, I’m planning to use a later model 318 or 360 Magnum engine, except with a carb (not using the FI). These engines don’t have a provision for a mechanical fuel pump. Question is; if I used the later model factory tank and electric in-tank factory pump, can I regulate the high fuel pressure down (and run a return line of coarse) to the 6ish psi for the carb? Reason for the factory in-tank pump is they seem to last pretty much forever, and quiet too (I have 293k on the original pump in my 2000 Ram 1500, which, maybe is the exception and not the rule, but still...). I hear about a lot of problems with aftermarket pump failures lately, be it Holley, Carter whatever, and this truck will be a legit daily driver. Anyway, sorry for the long winded question! Thanks for any input!
@john242ti
@john242ti 4 жыл бұрын
Ron G Yeah, you'd just need a manually adjustable regulator to drop the pressure from the 35-45 psi used with the injection setup down to 5-6 psi. Alternatively, if the Dodge Omni (as an example) uses an electric inline pump, use one of those with your current tank and do something similar to what Luke did.
@TutorialTelevision
@TutorialTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
Late reply, but yes you can do this. I am running a carb'd 318 and opted for an out-of-tank electric holley pump. Just run the line from the pump to a regulator and regulate it down to the necessary PSI.
@danielfisch655
@danielfisch655 4 жыл бұрын
You need a guest appearance of the "Mook".
@armygreenfj3924
@armygreenfj3924 Жыл бұрын
If my K5 has 4 outlets on my fuel sending unit does that mean one of them is a return? Under the hood has the charcoal canister that has been disconnected and not in use anymore.
@SLO-down
@SLO-down 4 жыл бұрын
You had a return line on your Galaxie that was more like a vapor return line with a 0.060 inch hole drilled in a bolt head or something similar. That was more like an old school vapor separator return system. Any differences you see between the return line on the Galaxie and the return line on your truck. Do you prefer one over the other?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
That setup I made due with what I had, but it worked just fine - this style holds a lot less pressure on the pump and bypasses way more fuel. I actually have the galaxie set up like this also. I was on an internship in Virginia during that galaxie video and it was wayyy hot, had to make something work!
@kylerrichardson4858
@kylerrichardson4858 Жыл бұрын
I don't question how effective this is, but it makes me wonder. If heak-soaked fuel has less oxygen from sitting in the lines around the motor bay in a dead-head setup, what keeps the fuel from being heat-soaked while its sitting in the fuel bowl of the carb?
@brianmaynard7320
@brianmaynard7320 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a great idea!! Do you have the return regulator set at the same pressure as your first regulator?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
I only have one regulator which is the return. It maintains the pressure on the apply line and at the carb. Anything not needed to maintain that pressure is bypassed
@rogerbelcher2981
@rogerbelcher2981 2 жыл бұрын
Did you run rubber hose all the way back to tank on the return line
@justusrosas502
@justusrosas502 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a 86 chevy c10 v8 305. I have deleted my evap canister and my fuel tank collapsed in on itself. I'm wondering if it's because the line I didn't know what to with I closed off. I have a edelbrock 1406 carb
@Thecraig909
@Thecraig909 4 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming you could actually get better fuel mileage with this as well?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
With a return set up? Or what were you thinking?
@jameshagood8157
@jameshagood8157 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get better fuel mileage by doing a return setup?
@free100x
@free100x 2 жыл бұрын
I just used a brass T into the suction line side of the fuel pump. Think about it.
@vicc6744
@vicc6744 3 күн бұрын
I'm confused I have a summit racing carb with a solid type dual fuel line so how do I plumb the regulator like you have it in this video without all that rubber hose and still have the regulator as you have it here?
@armygreenfj3924
@armygreenfj3924 7 ай бұрын
My fuel sending unit has 4 tubes is one of them a return?
@TheKeymaster316
@TheKeymaster316 4 жыл бұрын
This is the next thing I’m doing to my 77....as soon as I finish painting the house. 😭😭😭
@R3TR0--93
@R3TR0--93 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I have a 87 caprice classic with a 305 small block chevy stock everything except for the carb and distributor, I have a HEI and a edelbrock 1406 600cfm. and when ever I have the AC on the clutch engages and the idle drops really bad to the point when at a stop, I have to hold the throttle to a certain RPM or else the engine cuts out, there is a AC solenoid kit that you can order, and I would like to know if you're willing to show how to properly install it and have it all set right. Would be greatly appreciated
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 4 жыл бұрын
The stock carb should have had a solenoid on it too. If you car still has the wiring harness for it, and it works, it really is pretty much a bolt-on and plug it in deal.
@jamesharris5232
@jamesharris5232 4 жыл бұрын
A/C cars come with an idle solenoid for the A/C when it's on since it draws a ton of power. I deleted mine on my 1968 Thunderbird. It's my opinion, but the A/C is always in the way of something whether it's the compressor or the lines. So in my opinion, it's best to delete it 😂
@brents4729
@brents4729 3 жыл бұрын
So youre running your pump straight to the carb then regulating the pressure afterwards? It seems to work, but seems backwards. Whats the pros to doing it this way instead of pump into the regulator then to the carb?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter where the regulator is - the regulator maintains the “rail” pressure which is what the carb sees, bypassing any volume not needed to maintain that pressure. It’s the best return system since it is always actively bypassing fuel from your fuel rail vs others that don’t bypass all leaving fuel by the carb susceptible to heat and density change. Thunderhead289 Engineer
@save16thave
@save16thave 4 жыл бұрын
Seven thumbs down? Come on guys, what does a man have to do to get a thumbs up from you people?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Say something that goes against what folks have believed for many years seems to do it!
@mkrbrkr
@mkrbrkr 4 жыл бұрын
ok, so many questions. What about a regulator with the return port (Mallory type)? I'm running deadhead (390FE) Mechanical fuel pump, Edelbrock carb, and unregulated rubber lines. Trying to methodically make one change at a time. ( also checking your setup on your vapor lock video several years ago). Any rubber replacement fuel line recommendations?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been able to make a functional fuel bypass system that actually moves fuel volume that seems to be happy with a mechanical pump - I need to cut one of the vapor return canisters open and see what’s inside
@mkrbrkr
@mkrbrkr 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 thanks! I'll keep her deadhead until I go for the full refit.
@mattsgarage6670
@mattsgarage6670 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got to figure out how to do this with my in cab tank on my 1970 f100…
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 2 жыл бұрын
What the final thoughts on this gas filler neck idea? Yes? No?
@craigdavis8738
@craigdavis8738 4 жыл бұрын
Would this set-up work on a 1970 f100 with fuel tank behind the seat?
@joshdupont2209
@joshdupont2209 4 жыл бұрын
You would probably have to drill and put in a hose barb. I'm also not 100% sure that the behind seat tank has a rubber hose going to the tank. Or if its a direct type fit.
@spymaine89
@spymaine89 Ай бұрын
did the truck have a return line ......what is diff. about yours.
@makklemon8702
@makklemon8702 3 жыл бұрын
Did you make the bracket for the regulator or was that purchased?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 3 жыл бұрын
I designed them and had them lasered, I have more
@mp5603
@mp5603 3 жыл бұрын
Your fuel pressure regulator has 2 outlines and 1 inline. For the video it looks to me that you connect the pump to the carbs and to one regulator outline, the other outline has the pressure gauge, and the inline is your return line to the tank. Are your connections like I described or am I wrong?
@NIN_THUG
@NIN_THUG 3 жыл бұрын
You can plumb the regulator either before or after the carb. In this video he has it after the carb. His return line is coming straight down out of the regulator, you can't really see it.
@robertoarias5896
@robertoarias5896 4 жыл бұрын
How would you set up the return line with a mechanical fuel pump?
@softenerguy
@softenerguy 4 жыл бұрын
The same way, but mechanical fuel pumps can have a tendency to vary in their output creating inconsistencies and problem chasing.
@bryantcurtis2665
@bryantcurtis2665 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool video how come your backyard mechanics Have such scrappy cars?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
2 reasons, most of us have these skills because we HAD to develop them. The plight of having to drive what we can afford is also our deliverance to knowledge and capability. The second reason is that nothing makes me happier than gapping people with a “piece of crap” ☺️
@bryantcurtis2665
@bryantcurtis2665 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 No disrespect I was just joking
@TheBrokenLife
@TheBrokenLife 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 Can confirm! The only stuff I've had that ever ran right is because I made it run right.
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke! Is it acceptable to run a high pressure neoprene line back to the tank from the regulator rather then a Metal line? I run a Blue Holly elect external pump, 14 psi max, and use a Holley 4160 750 cfm Carb. Thank you.
@ZachtheEvil
@ZachtheEvil 2 жыл бұрын
This is an old comment, so you probably decided one way or the other, but the advantage of hard lines is that they are less likely to be damaged by road debris. The disadvantage is they don't flex and are more difficult (but not terribly difficult) to run. Personally, I'd run hard lines at a minimum from the engine bay to the general vicinity of the tank. From there, a more flexible hose to the carb or tank would strike a good balance between safety, durability, ease of maintenance and the ability to adapt to changes (e.g. a new carb is built differently and requires the return line to run to a different location -- hoses help here). This is the same strategy that tends to be used for brake lines. At least on my truck.
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZachtheEvil Thanks for your reply! I decided to keep my tank to regulator hard line. No heat soak issues currently, (1 inch carb spacer, stainless braided dual lines from regulator to carb nicely wrapped with heat shield.) The Mustang only gets out for car shows, local cruises, maybe 300-400 miles per year.
@ZachtheEvil
@ZachtheEvil 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertclymer6948 nice. Sounds like a good setup. BTW, what motor are you running? From the profile photo it looks like a 60s era Mustang. 289? If it's stock, 750cfm could be too much. My more or less stock '66 289 engine in my truck is happy with 600cfm and honestly 550cfm might be a hair better. It's running a Holley 1850-2, the ancient forerunner to that 4160. I'm currently in the process of adding a 1 inch spacer / rebuilding the carb a small bit - what type of spacer are you running? I'm going with a 4 hole metal spacer, purely to get another vacuum port for the PCV valve and free up the port it's using.
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZachtheEvil Ok, 67 Mustang Gt S-code coupe. Originally came with a 390 4 speed. Running a Ford 460 big block that is a mild build. Has all the top shelf parts on it. Running with the 460, is a Built C-6 forward manual valve body. Running 4:11 gears with a Yukon Trac Lok differential. Full spool removed for this. 4 link suspension, coil overs, 2 1/2 stainless exhaust from headers back through magna flow mufflers. Eldelbrock top end kit, Holley 750 cfm 4160 on an Eldelbrock RPM Performer single plane. Alum radiator with two fans in front If it goes over 190 deg. Cheetah SCS shifter. Spacer is 1in phenolic forgot the make. Holley sniper elect fuel pump into a Holley regulator. Interior has been put back to period correct now. Ex-race car, ran 8's in 1/4 mile, a far cry from that now, lol Probably much I forgot but is a nice pro street hotrod and cruiser. Running 275x60r15 rear on Weld draglites. Goodyear 190 skinnies up from on Weld also.
@saulsifuentes3546
@saulsifuentes3546 4 жыл бұрын
What type of gauge is on your bypass? I looked at the link for the bypass but did not come with a gauge.
@Aaron-qg8fo
@Aaron-qg8fo 4 жыл бұрын
MrGasket 1561 sealed fuel pressure gauge. 0-16psi
@oletom6970
@oletom6970 3 жыл бұрын
How does it bypass with no return line from regulator
@decone01
@decone01 4 жыл бұрын
Do you run the same size return line that you're using for your inlet fuel flow
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
Same size or larger, indeed - you don’t want to have backpressure on the return side or you lose regulator control
@decone01
@decone01 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 ok thanks for the response
@1Darkvictory
@1Darkvictory 4 жыл бұрын
You should also mention that running a bypass set up instead of a "deadhead" set up with save your electric fuel pump because it is not working as hard with the bypass set up. Be Well and Thank You.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
That’s actually the original reason I started running return lines! There is so much I always want to say, but Iv been chastised for going over peoples heads!
@rleonekc07
@rleonekc07 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean back to the gas tank though. Do you literally run that line all the way back to the fuel tank?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Granite
@Granite 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to run both a mechanical and electric fuel pump? We are talking 7 - 10 psi here.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
If your mechanical pump fails, the electric will pump fuel into your crankcase - I wouldn’t suggest it
@kennethmonson
@kennethmonson 4 жыл бұрын
Luke will surely have a better answer, but I've read about guys running their electric pump on a toggle for warm weather starting. Flip it on and let it run a few seconds, long enough to hopefully overcome any vapor lock and then turn the electric pump back off. I cannot imagine why you would want to run both simultaneously.
@Granite
@Granite 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 I've had my mechanical pump do the same thing on its own. May just switch to electric if I kind find a reliable pump that is whisper quiet.
@hardball107
@hardball107 4 жыл бұрын
@@Granite www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_pumps_regulators_and_filters/fuel_pumps/carbureted_fuel_pumps/carbureted_electric_fuel_pumps/parts/12-427 Perfect for a carb up to about 350 horsepower, I use one on my boat.
@Granite
@Granite 4 жыл бұрын
@@hardball107 and it doesn't make too much noise? I've heard similar little pumps and they're a whole lot louder than 65 decibals. I'd pay a premium if it was whisper quiet.
@coburnlowman
@coburnlowman 4 жыл бұрын
Cordless drill and a couple tubes of good ole blue RTV😵😂😕. We've all torn into em. Don't you love a carburetor that is full of RTV????
@milkhouse01ja
@milkhouse01ja 3 жыл бұрын
So you run the regulator after the fuel goes to the carb?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’s a bypass specific regulator - whatever fuel that isn’t needed to maintain the line pressure is bypassed. This is the best design as it’s a full bypass scenario
@milkhouse01ja
@milkhouse01ja 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 boy I have a lot to learn here. Thank you
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to teach, I am pretty much retired from all this stuff largely - time to pass the knowledge on
@milkhouse01ja
@milkhouse01ja 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderHead289 well I appreciate your videos very much!
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 4 жыл бұрын
Is it a waste of time to run the return line with my mechanical fuel pump?
@nobullshit9721
@nobullshit9721 4 жыл бұрын
Yebo Screbo thing to consider is heat with gas boiling before the carb or your floats on the carb being filled with an excessive amount of fuel into the intake. You might go with a higher volume pump to keep up with fuel demands but the engine doesn’t need it all the time so putting it back into the tank is just a better solution. For most street engines with a mechanical fuel pump in the range of psi needed for it to work right will be fine 100 years ago they didn’t need a return line to make them work even had a lot of powerful engines that didn’t need it to work. .
@johnriv6761
@johnriv6761 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you talk about the ball valve in your return line? I'd think that would be useful for some people to understand.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
I actually just installed that for demonstrating how fuel pressure effects fuel level - I also do actually run them on some of my other rigs that have a mechanical fuel pump timing covers, so if the electric goes out, I can toss a mechanical on and keep going.
@johnriv6761
@johnriv6761 4 жыл бұрын
ThunderHead289 Ahh gotcha, that’s a smart move.
@kennethmonson
@kennethmonson 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnriv6761 There are a couple of his other videos where he uses that valve in such a demonstration. Pretty neat idea for his purposes.
@bam1x502
@bam1x502 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should paint it
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 4 жыл бұрын
This truck is junk, not worth the effort. Definitely a “leave it how it is and drive the hell out of it” type
@Maples01
@Maples01 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I removed all that 'return' shit from my 73Econoline years ago, I had enough leak issues, less lines the better, damn ethanol had destroyed the rubber lines, and ruined the tank, I still have the arrangement where it connected to the carb, never want to put it back on, it was Fords pitiful fix for vapor locking due to heat, if those fools put a reasonable radiator in with a fan shroud there would never have been a problem, left it up to the owners to have radiators custom built for their vans.
@frekkledipped
@frekkledipped 2 жыл бұрын
I dont get how this would work on my metal filler neck without dropping and cutting it.
@user-dd2vc5cd1p
@user-dd2vc5cd1p 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao my '74 car has this from factory
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