But its copy reels and yt shorts are still brain damaging plus super nsfw

@@RationalBeing-rh1zf Indeed, we have too many irreversible problems these days, fixing one is better than none

you guys are poor

@@RationalBeing-rh1zf reels and yt short are somewhat still not able to copy the braindead tiktok feeds

@@plutorocks1 fr

The difference is in this case its a foreign power, not a company that if gone too far we can very likely go after.

@@matthewal9545 What law could we use to go after any of these US companies if discovered they were tweaking the algorithms to prefer one candidate or party over another? I cant think of any. Somehow we've given the right to free speech to companies.

@@RobRaines Companies are considered people so that is why that. But laws can be changed, in principle the US on their own soil can go after companies. A forien power can protect a company on their soil buy just saying no, if the US wanted to do it. How the US is planning to ban tik tok, is to basically legislate that google and apple cant have it on their app stores. There will still be ways to access it, but their block the two big gate keepers to get it.

the world was a better place without social media, I dont get your point.

1 thing you forgot - Tik-tok isnt a infomation circle, but just a brain killer (like shorts in KZfaq, neverending shorts in Facebook, whole Instagramm unfortunately and even Twitter) And yes, probably social media WILL be isolated each from other countries (like China already did and Russia is trying to do... whooops :), because there is no governments liking someone else put a sh...t in brains of their citizen, read it like You or Me (they want that privilege only for themselves ;). Thats why search engines of Russia are blocked in many European countries already which is way more important than dumd/straight forward influence app like Tik-tok. Noone need 98% of citizens being even clever actually, thats why we have shorts in youtube/facebook, tik-tok or instagramm and maaaaany changes in education programs. But making most of citizen dumb and easy influenced governments of many countries got easy controlled idiots with the tiny-tiny problem. Dumb idiots (like You and Me) are easy influenced from ALL sides nowdays. At the moment China fight this problem by using global firewall, and continue influent you via Tik-tok. Not a miracle that USA want to play this game too, completely understandable decision. Next step after social media will be more global things (like editing Wiki historical parts/harder, or making technical information less accessible/easier :). Or maby (but less likely) big countries will stop to saw tree branch they sitting on, making 98% of citizen as close to idiots as possible and will use another solutions.... naah i dont believe it, its always easier to control bunch of idiots than trying to explain something to more or less clever ppl. Me personally would block Tik-tok at very beginning of its creation and would make life of ppl making to bring it to my country by workarounds like VPN much harder and would implement something similar at the same time for my idio... i mean citizen. But you still may live in world of pink ponies and cry about human rights on information (which isnt Tik-tok story at all).

​@@isaacnewton6930 adding to this, if some technology is acting sussy or having some sussy consequences should we just let it roll?

Yes. Globalization was a mistake.

Yeah this isn't the best take by Titus

It is and you are right. Facebook helped commit mass genocide of an entire minority in Myanmar. Social Media applications have too much influence and can be extremely dangerous for the population as a whole. Bans NEED to happen and that's coming from me... a guy who makes a living on social media.

@@TitusTechTalk I'm happy you agree. Ban is a harsh word, but regulation is also a loaded term. Wish there was a less polarizing way to discuss this XD I also didn't consider how this will effect online creators.

Each country has different laws, and I'm sick of being forced into the box with the lowest common denominator to be completely honest. Every country SHOULD have their own home grown companies that adhere to their HOME GROWN laws. Places in this world are completely different, and deserve their own completely different social medias, that I don't know, their SOCIETIES use the way their societies choose. I have zero in common with lets say, a communist citizen that chooses communism in another country at all. Idealistically or morally and would more than prefer they not have a say, or sway in my country at all. These aren't "platforms" they are 100% propaganda outlets. ALL OF THEM.

"India could completely ban American apps". Who gives a shit, that's a them problem at that point. Dumb slippery slope argument is dumb.

I would agree with you but in china, tiktok pushes learning, science and positive experiences, as he said It is a cyberwarfare weapon, that dumbify everyone elses Governments have meddled with it already, it's tainted

Everybody talks about China censorship but nobody talks about US or Europe censorship, which is literally the same. I guess it's okay if US government forbids something, but not okay, if it's China. What a wonderful world we live in.

@@khlebnikov97 "literally the same" is the most bullshit statement i've seen today. Have you ever even googled anything about China before shitting with your fingers? Why don't you go to China and try to say it out loud "Tiananmen square" in front of a police officer, or try to access all the websites you use on a daily basis in the USA without a vpn? The fact that 4 thinking people liked your comment scares me

"We as humans can still choose were we decide to get our information from." Using that logic, we shouldn't care at all about misinformation/disinformation. And this is a known adversary that has at least attempted to interfere with elections and will continue to do so. Russia did the same thing. If you don't think that's a problem then you're part of the problem.

@@khlebnikov97 Exactly!

This isnt a "democracy", this is a "REPUBLIC"

4 - is a way to go. Go and popularize this way to China. P.S. Democracy doesn't equal to freedom, so would not suggest to use them like this in one sentence.

They will use VPN. Banning is the stupid thing that you can do. Take it from an Iranian who has the most restricted internet and right now I'm typing in KZfaq comment section.

(Yes) The world would loos anything important. lol But banning one doesnt change anything.

They have that in the US too.

Absolutely, the lead paint is getting to Chris on this one.

they dont like it when you notice things

Every important person supports AIPAC why don't you?

LITERALLY THOUGH

@@battokizuPig

Every sane person will understand that a platform that brainwashes the public for specific agenda should be banned 😅

no it shouldn t

Exactly my point. When a social media platform steps over the edge and does any type of political influence they should be banned. TikTok isn't even the worst. Facebook has more blood on its hands by its assistance to the Myanmar government and helping them commit mass genocide in 2017 against Rohingya. Hundreds of thousands of people were exterminated all from Facebook propaganda put out by the government officials at the time. People need to start waking up to the dangers and influence that social media has.

Like drugs

I know right? Because if China is going to influence us, we might as well start literally becoming China lmao.

Which is precisely the reason they are banned in China, by the CCP. Socialists/Communists know better than any group in history about propaganda and manipulation.

"I'm more concerned about my government having my data, then some foreign country like China." Looks like you're one of those who needs better critical thinking skills.

@@frankboyer1490 Are you retarded? Why would I give a shit about China? I don't live there and if they really wanted my data, they could just buy it. Not sure why you trust the US government so much.

@@frankboyer1490 Are you re****ed? Why would I give a shit about China? I don't live there and if they really wanted my data, they could just buy it. Not sure why you trust the US government so much.

@@frankboyer1490 Are you re****ed? Why would I give a s**t about China? I don't live there and if they really wanted my data, they could just buy it. Not sure why you trust the US government so much.

@@frankboyer1490 @frankboyer1490 Are you retarded? Why would I give a shit about China? I don't live there and if they really wanted my data, they could just buy it. Not sure why you trust the US government so much.

Yeah this was not it

usually people promoting this rhetoric are getting paid under the table, like at least they’re doing it for coin.

​@nocte_dieque yeah, well, anything to prop up the corpse of the flawed system, I suppose.

Just you, me, and 16 others on this planet train their own feeds. No way vulnerable young minds can do that. Political content still exists on Facebook. The ban of TikTok is an isolated event solely because it is from the CCP, the classic American crappy red-scare rhetoric. Though I agree with the banning of TikTok since the app does push stupidity out, it doesn't address the underlying issues at all. The US is just as bad as China when it comes to spying on its own citizens. And if you live in a country with uncensored information... why rely on TikTok for politics. More and more people are relying on social media for information, which can be seen as good. It can display some truths to those who seek it, but most of the time, they are just echo-chambers propagated by algorithms. Media literacy out the window, consume predicted content, do not think. Instagram and TikTok both employ the same bullshit algorithms, this ban is literally useless, and only emphasizes the US' need for control over social media. Hell, most of political activism on social media is mostly performative. The revolution won't start on social media when the US already controls it.

If all social media was banned, you wouldn't be able to watch Chris Titus and comment here.

@@KuleGuy27 - Ban the internet too

Many of the most gullible and manipulable people I know are Gen X and Boomers - coworkers, bosses, relatives. They snap up any headline they read without questioning it, fall easily for scams, etc... I think the correlation between age and wisdom/critical thinking is far lower than is commonly believed. Experience helps, but many are very easy to forget their experiences, or are quick to dismiss a new situation they're pre-disposed to liking/believing as being similar to a situation they experienced that turned out to be bad/untrue.

It's more how things are done by CCP than anything else. TikTok could easily avoid a ban by moving away from the CCP.

Think of what the Public schools influence our kids with. He's just talking out of his azz again.

💀 you imposter 😅 just kidding, love you back for honest comment.

Hope you didn't lose social credit /s

@@fallen4021 sc +100000 for being a honest Chinese

Ban could be avoided, if China take off their firewall i suppose. But unfortunately THEY started this ban idea by blocking western social media, meanwhile influencing other countries through their plattforms like Tik-tok. So its quite logical decision. Imagine someone goes into your house digging into your family pictures/reading your mail/saying what you should buy tomorrow, and same person wont let you into his house to avoid same situation. How would you act in this situation? Me personally would ask that person to shut his mouth or wont let him into my house. Same situation with Tik-tok. China want influent all world without letting world influent them. Not all clever enough to understand when they are fooled and due to less experience young ppl are much easier to be influenced. That's why they are best auditory for the companies/governments with possibilities to plan anything further then tomorrow. Have you ever seen how 5-15 year old children want to buy certain toy/electronic use exactly this application and nothing else being unable to explain why they want THIS device/application/toy? Personally seen it many hundreds times and most common phrase would be: "because everybody have it". And that just a market tricks. Same way influence works in politician point of view, lifestyle, making personal goals etc for older people, but way-way worse than children or asks more complicated methods of influencing (unless they brainwashed idi...ts which become quite often picture nowdays).

Everyone knows its not just about TikTok (well our audience mostly). The US already spies on its citizens, I don't need China in that mix either. Privacy laws will never pass since Americans and the world in general slowly gave up their privacy rights anyways, under the guise of free choice. US simply wants more control, that is all. The US government doesn't care what social media you use as long as they control it. The internet as we knew it is dead, corporations are just playing with its body. Regulation will never happen until people wake up. I'm all for the banning of TikTok since it will literally do nothing in the long term. Just another braincell zapping app banned. What we need is regulation against corporations like you say, but we know that is never going to happen. Why would the US want to ban US based social media applications? More data and profit for them. No precedent will be set at all so that worry is pretty useless. The US says they worry for their youth, but in reality all they want is control, funny. Instagram can be just as brain-dead as TikTok, at least it isn't under China. No way kids are training their own social media algorithms, they are molded by it instead. The same can be applied to adults, just scroll on any political post on Instagram and you can see lots of bots and troll-farms instigating fully grown people. Your TikTok content will be on Instagram instead for the US to harvest. China already does this with US based social media applications as well, so why can't the US ban their applications too? I agree that its a useless ban, but shit... I'd rather have my own government spy on me than a foreign one. No way in hell would the US would reform TikTok either since doing so would basically be admitting that Facebook and others need drastic reforms as well. The only valid reform for the US would simply be that TikTok becomes a US based company... for you guessed it... control. These nations do not give a crap about our privacy at all. RIP the free Internet

Same with ig reels and yt shorts

@@RationalBeing-rh1zf not the same You have cases where TikTok were literally spying on journalist/rapporters.

@@RationalBeing-rh1zfThe thing is that Instagram and KZfaq aren't owned by the ccp.

@@notoriog and that's it? Content of tik tok and reels/shorts are almost time waste(sometimes very rarely useful). That's why my teachers always advised me not to use it because it's very addictive too

@@notoriog anyways even tho ccp spying suxs more im still against yt and ig spying

You're stupid, wrong, and need to go learn your facts before whining in a comments section. I bet your mother is twice the man you are 😂

Sometimes I think it should, due to Google way of control it. But this platform have too many useful information for learning to say easily - "yes it should be banned". 80% of youtube data can be deleted easily without any loss, but is too big to filter it easily. Tik-tok if honestly is waaay less useful.

Such a bad take.that proves some people need their food chewed for them…. The internet back then was the wild west and was untamed. With ai, older people now online in droves and the amount of sheer data they have been able to amass and utilize to profile you they can pretty close to literally control your thoughts and push ideas directly to your brain you would have never had, especially older people that didn’t grow up on the internet and don’t understand it and much more children that are addicted to it. You might be in the middle of those people that grew up with the net but not young enough to understand things without it too, but from your comment you seem to be neither. Back then you going on forums and people sharing freeware or music is different from a singular company owned by an autocratic foreign regime affecting political elections around the world. And most people dont bypass the great firewall in china only a select few that are willing to risk it or are even tech savy enough to understand what a vpn is, in autocratic country like china. Terrible surface level take…

It's not the fault of the EU regulations that you get a cookie popup on every site, it's the fault of the platforms who want to collect your data and purposely make it difficult to say no. I don't think banning TikTok achieves anything, but the idea that the internet should be unregulated is ridiculous. We live in an era where the internet is controlled by massive corporations - they need to be regulated.

@@Zedris That's a little bit schizo posting, but even if Tiktok or China does that, how is it different from American government that also spy and control people? And why should we suffer for a small amount of people (old ones). Also there are better ways than banning stuff.

clueless kid. I blame TikTok.

Especially considering here in America we don't have a democracy, we have a representative republic. Which also was put in place to specifically counter the mob rule, and many other problems with a pure democracy.

Nobody has said that it doesn't have to do with China.

@@frankboyer1490 but it is.

@@shoddits2156You said it has nothing to do with TikTok and that it has more to do with China. Nobody is saying different.

@@frankboyer1490 ohh, I thought you meant the opposite

yes, big tech do it, but it is up to local government to decide how to eliminate undesirable influence. However, I think a counteraction must be education. It is more effective. Censoring in info wars is bad move for all people. You need to take undesirable information and explain to people why it is "wrong".

Imagine thinking that the Communist Party of China aka CPC or it's company ByteDance have the "massive power" to influence tiktok when in reality, tiktok is controlled by BlackRock who holds 60% of the shares in the company which means they (BlackRock) are in fact, the shareholder with the most control NOT the CPC.