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I freaking *_LOVE_* weird plane designs! YAY!

Five weird planes and not a single Rutan design? Pretty impressive.

Interesting, for sure! Back in 1994/95 I had the opportunity to work on an experimental Thurston project, the Teal tricycle gear amphibian. TSC 1A3, I believe was the designation. Our example was almost complete when the company relocated, but I never saw it fly. Thanks for the video and stories!

There's a NASA or NACA paper from years ago, which says that if you want to design a biplane, you *do not* put the wings right in the same vertical. You instead put the upper plane of the biplane wing 1 chord up, & 1 chord forward, then you tilt the lower plane so its trailing-edge 5-degrees down. That last plane you showed was an box-wing, and the stagger was right to put the upper plane forward, but the 2 planes were too close together, from the looks of it.

I actually really like that quirky little twin from Aus. The single-engine version just looked like a great little Cessna clone, but the twin has a ton of personality, and yeah, having the extra reliability of a twin in a country that's 98% desolate bush seems like a no-brainer, especially both small like that. Given the pods just hanging out in the air, it looks easy to work on, and like it'd sip fuel. That's exactly my level of oddball, with my first car having been a Suzuki Samurai, and my favorite car having been a second gen Toyota MR2. I've always loved things that are outside the box but in sensible ways. Also, that "flying moving van" from the UK looked pretty aerodynamic to me with that vertical teardrop profile. And the staggered wing design? Those can work _shockingly_ well for slow flight and extreme critical AoA operations. I bet their loiter time was bonkers! Sort of like that flying egg observation plane whose name eludes me at the moment. Some great little planes! I'm less sure about the advantage of driving two props off of one engine, though... it might balance _some_ torque, but the engine itself will still generate a roll torque, and those belts are just two more failure points, plus it doesn't look like it gets a lot of cooling or air back there inside the fuselage.

Exactly, I love weird/experimental aircraft! Love the channel btw.

Well, that was fascinating. Thanks for doing all that research and sharing these with us.

Love odd looking aircraft. That was fun to watch, Thanks, Good video.

I love the tiny cargo craft. They look like chibi versions of larger planes and carried surprising amounts of cargo.

Very fun video, and thought-provoking. Sort of a primer for anyone interested in aircraft design. Daydreaming doesn't cost much. I expect my wings will come from St. Peter someday.

Loved the Aerovan. When one landed at Darwin (1970s) someone at our hangar said : "Nice packaging but it might look better out of the box"

LOVED EVERY YOU SHOWED...ESPECIALLY THE SKYVANS..❤

The Arup planes, from Indiana, 1930s ("Air" + "Up") The S-2 flew first as a glider, then with a 37hp ex "American Indian" police motorcycle engine. 780 lbs, it flew 85 knots, with landing speed below 18 knots. Would not stall. Video shows it to be nimble with amazing 45° climb rate. The S-4 was 1150 lbs, 2-seat side by side dual controls. Flew 100 kts on 70 hp. The S-3 performed well a few times, but was destroyed in a fire when it's shop was set on fire by arson, after tampering and possible sabotage had been noticed. Between the two, they flew several seasons at airshows, frequently carrying advertizing because nobody wanted to buy or invest despite the fact that they performed markedly better than "normal planes": they looked funny. The S-2 flew for NACA and the military at Langley (test pilot Glen Doolittle, cousin to the famous air racer Jimmy Doolittle). Charles Zimmerman was on the NACA group that examined it, and later he used the very-low aspect-ratio planform with it's super-slow stall-proof 40°nose-up approach as the starting point for his work on a VTOL Tail-sitter for Vought and the NAVY in the V-173. (NACA Tunnel tests with the V-173 showed that it didn't gain anything or particularly change anything with the overly complex wing-tip mounted props) In 2015 the Mid-Atlantic air museum in Pennsylvania reported that it had acquired the S-2 and it's awaiting restoration for display. The flying "Heel Lift" - Arup S2 Bomberguy nearly 2 minutes, but skip ahead to 48 seconds in for the video) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hN6qZLh3m52pgX0.htmlsi=dbyocU3baika_VOf Arup S-4 King Aero Aviation 2 minutes 48 seconds kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb6ihqmHqceXnY0.htmlsi=OctPp6l3jYWuclSp

I've always loved the quirky engineering that came out of South Africa and South America and maybe Australia in the 1950s thru 1980s. It was sad that this momentum didn't last. You saw this in aviation, but also in cars.... there was a lot of rugged practical designs that came into being on almost no capital and smallish markets. There was a lot of stuff that absolutely deserved to survive. The AeroVan at 5:20- imagine if that plane could be disassembled enough to fit in that pod- omg, you could have delivered a twin somewhere. I realize the solution would be to tow an assembled plane but still, it would be cool

here in Ushuaia, Tierra Del Fuego, Argentina. the Arava was used as a medical aircraft until recently

Loved it man, really cool!!

Good to see the Miles Aerovan get a mention here. As a young man my father worked for Miles aircraft and flew with their test pilot Tommy Rose. Miles were responsible for many innovative designs (the M52 being the most famous) and was another British company shafted by an inept short sighted Government obsessed with post war cost cutting.

@6:45 looks like the "new" NASA/Boeing project . Very cool video!

Thanks for sharing this, Juan. YOU ARE A GREAT DAD!

Congratulations! You found some planes I have never seen before (and I've been around almost as long as some of those designs LOL).

great music choice in addition to interesting aeroplanes!

This was brilliant. Subscribed. :D

With the paint scheme and shadows, the plane at 3:14 looks so happy.

Miles Aerovan's seaplane version is by far my favorite.👍

That was interesting and Educative to watch thank you

Sitting behind a Jabiru engine, you don't need anybody shooting at you to get you down

6:37 that could be the best one from the plane to the Truck

I love that last one. If it could be built as a FAR-103 Ultralight, it might be fun to fly. I fly a 2003 Challenger, but I'd love to get into areas that I just don't quite feel comfy setting down in. Oh, have you heard of anyone using one of those "Toroidal Propellers" on an aircraft. Quad drones and boats I've seen but not Aircraft. I'd love one if they fly.

The engine nacelles on the Jabiru twin are an aerodynamic monstrosity. The plane is cool though. Do the Petersen 260 too !

The Miles Aerovan has been my weird crush for a long time. The Sea varient would have been perfect as a lake jumper here in Canada.

RU serious?!!! I could never get sick of vids on P51’s or 747’s. 😂😂😂

Excellent video, is it possible to have it without background "music" ? The thing is, foreigners like me have some difficulties to understand everything. Without background it is much easier.

The SuperGuppy's that hauled the Apollo/Saturn 5 rocket stages. Tillamook Air Museum in Tillamook Oregon had a SuperGuppy, right on the Oregon coast. They did have some WW2 radar blimp hangars there as well. Huge barns, with it's own weather system in the rafters, and a comical baskeball hoop waay up there. Pops was a Private Pilot for over 45 years. Lots of airshows, lots of museums. The SuperGuppy's always stood out for me. Recent youtube shows a window blowing out of one in flight during transport. Very aged structures.

Stop having boring planes, stop having a boring life!

AS-37 has the perfect wing arrangement to install Custer Channel Wings with the propellers on leading edge of channel, as Antonov Izdelye did, it made some tethered flights, also with engine inside fuselage and propellers moved by gears and shafts. Blessings +

Reminds me of the WW2 bird F-82. Although they was never used in WW2 as they came in as it was just over in 1946. Minus the jet engine but it was very fast without a jet. (482 mph) Basically two p51 mustangs stuck together. 1380hp per engine. Factory made... 273 made in total. I would love to see one in person.

The Transavia AirTruk…. As seen on Mad Max.

Jabiru twin reminds me of a warthog and the aerovan inspired thunderbird 2!

Very interesting!

That was extremely coo! 'and alot of work likely?! Thank you' Most awesome! ✈️

9:57 Reference the Beech "Staggerwing" sometime, from the SAME timeframe. The Stark wings are more extreme of a stagger, but you can see the similarity.

That landing approach at 10:30 is wild.

YES the Box-van aircraft, another case of the British blocking a good idea and aircraft that could have succeed.

Do any blueprints for the Miles Aerovan exist? It seems like a promising basis for a homebuilt w/ enough cabin space to be a flying RV you can live out of...

Check out the Piaggio Avanti, 2 turboprop pushers on skinny wings with canards on the nose and a T tail, its pretty sweet looking.

I like the Starck!!

the shape of the plane is very unique

Looking at the miles aerovan, i cant help but see a mini AC-119.

look at these planes that I don't know anything about except for the wiki page. I think they are strange so I'll talk about their looks. hey look at me. uggh.....

The Miles Aerovan was popular with recreational parachutists.

@2:29 Embraer Bandeirante, the beginning of an era! It was hard to compete with this aircraft.

Twin engine jabiru. If the engine wasnt so unreliable wouldnt be necessary

Here's an interesting little tid-bit, The first image at 2:48 of the Jabiru story, is actually of a ROTAX powered J-230 with a variable prop.

The French cargo plane was an unlicensed copy of the USA Fairchild C-119 "Flying Boxcar".

P-51s and F-18s are not boring. The last example of boring makes up for the lack of boring in the other two, though.

Recipe for bankruptcy: Build *your* great idea, then try to sell it. For Success: Ask around what people really need and build it - already sold.

All of the planes are interesting. I'm not clear on how the Jubiru plane solved the ransom issue though.

Flying bathtub! My favorite.

So, I'm guessing the Transavia Airtruk would have been too obvious? Then again, I might have gone with the McDonnell XF-85 Goblin. Or maybe the Oldsmobile F-85, which looked nothing like an airplane at all...

Yea me too, I love weird designed airplanes/helicopters.

Nothing boring about P-51s in my opinion… But these strange ones are fun to consider…

The Nord Noratlas and the Arava look like copies of the US C119 Flying Boxcar, 2:37)Here they copied the modified US North American Aviation's B25G & H Mitchell bomber that was used in the Pacific during WW II. The planes had two .50 caliber M2 Browning Heavy Machine Guns (HMG) mounted on each side of the cab. Four more in the nose and a 75mm cannon. Some had 10 HMGs that fired forward.There was four Air Apache squadrons. 345th Bomb Group.

I can help thinking about Tony Stark when they said “Starck”.

4:40, the Jabaru. Cool plane but how does having the engines like that help against AK-47s?

I stopped at 07:24 for a moment to check out the Thurston Teal. The Teal was not a success, only selling 38 planes. But, what caught my attention was the similarity between it and a current amphibious aircraft, the Lake Buccaneer. It turns out that the Lake models were designed by the same man, David Thurston.

The IAI Arava was my first type rating. It was weird looking but it made up for it for being s l o w. LOL

It's a great idea for ambulances, hauling a lot of weight, etc

The Aerovan became more famous as "Thunderbird 2"

Showing the AS20 but not the Flying Flea?

The Miles Aerovan shown with the New Zealand registration I'm pretty sure was owned by AIrwork (NZ) Ltd. It was used in the 1950s for top dressing. In the 1960s I remember the tail unit sitting in their hangar in Christchurch NZ. I don't the history behind it.

i'm curious, how well did the Starky fly? anybody know?

The Arava should have been marked as a flying RV.

There is NOTHING boring about a P-51. Nothing!

Nice collection but i was expecting to see an Optima by Edgley…those are weird

Transavia PL-12 Airtruk!!!!

The story in Papua New Guinea is the Arava's arrived with some inches of sand in the bottom of the airframe. They are rotting on the ramp at Port Moresby after last serving during the Bougainville Crisis. Flying Suppository.

Earth born AI will explore the milky way.

i want the arava

What about the aforementioned Falcon XP?

Arava, Yes I saw two of them equipped with missiles ! They were parked facing our air line office. My chief pilot had them disarmed, He was concerned some idiot might touch the wrong button

How is Arava not a remake of the soviet An-14.

Jaburu is the brasilian name of this bird painted in the nose. The company has any relation with Brazil?

Not bad performance with only 2 Tiger Moth engines

спасибо

So ... the P-51 is now boring ?

I don't get bore with aircraft, can't say the same for commentators!

anyone noticed dr evil and minime

The Arava does well hauling Bolivian shale from dirt runways cut out of the jungles in South America.

Check out the Abrams P1

This is what real classics are ❤❤ \(^v^)/!

10:29 12:30 brothers?

stark did a design for aprilia too. really ugly and horribly built, they're a nightmare to work on! a a frenchman, I'm disgusted that stark was called on by aprilia..

South Africa twice 💪💪💪🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

MILES AEROVAN alll the way!! It is chubby but very efficient considering all it could do and carry on those weak underpowered engines. A few improvements and it could make a comeback!

Did they really let people on and off within inches of that turning propeller? That’s crazy. 6:23

"Door near 28?" How about Dor nee Eh?

Je possède un Starck AS70!

2:19 It wanted to grow up to be an O-10?

Love the planes . . . Hate the Simpsons. 😖