He also made the Steve jobs comparison to deep sea diving 🥴

You are partially right, for one exception. Millioneers club like exclusive tours. Like space flight or diving to the deepest spots, visiting unique places or riding the most speedy bikes or sports cars. Vacation on the board of a yaucht is of no more interest - they are now "exploreres". Huge money definitely damage brains first, the result is as we see.

I agree, mam

lmfao

The way is suitable because the subject is about science and facts, not social or political issue.

Definitely no remains, whatsoever. I'm no expert at all but I hear the implosion would have resulted in temperatures as hot as the sun. THE SUN. It's unfathomable.

Richard Feynman said it best "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled"

Presumed human remains have been found.

Yea. We are all so depressed abt this economic inflation we are dealing with

While billions of dollars go to the Ukraine

@mikemanners1069: It already has blown up in our faces. We, or at least many of us, are programmed to "walk it off" and to ignore the "collateral damage."

Thus the myth of Cassandra😮😮

The Navy doesn't listen to undersea sounds in real-time unless it's WWIII but the media made it sound like they do. The Navy didn't know until many days after the implosion by going through the sound data recorded in terabytes and assessing it for the time of day and small area. They don't have a room of guys with headphones listening all the time in real time. That's a huge waste of money doing nothing you know?

The navy notified the coast guard immediately. Because it was going to be days before the ROV would arrive, coast guard continued search and rescue.

From the two replies to my post, I see two completely opposite explanations for how they Navy handled the sound data. One says they did release it immediately and the other says they couldn't do so. James Cameron said he know about the loud sound at the time the sub disappeared within an hour. At any rate, I already suggested that it was possible the searchers knew about it when the public did not. My impression mirrored what James Cameron also saw - that the searcchers were running about like chickens with their heads cut off. Of course, the whole thing could have been simplified if Mr. Rush had equipped his sub with reliable and redundant tracking devices so that it could be readily located if it had been able to resurface.

@@j.m.2022 You have reading comprehension issue because other commenter doesn't refute my comment. Both can be right. Days after the implosion, the Navy identified a loud sound in the data which they think is the implosion, but it's not exact science. It's not 100% sure. But they notified the Coast Guard immediately of their discovery, and due to the uncertainty of the data, the Coast Guard decided to continue the mission as a search and rescue anyways to error on the side of caution that the data was wrong and that there were potential survivors. Finding the sub debris is what confirms the implosion data to be correct.

@@caib714 If you can't detect the inconsisitency in your statement, I can't help but believe it is you who has the reading comprehension issue. Cameron indicated he was aware of the sound having occurred within an hour of the event. You say, one one handd, that "DAYS after the implosion, the Nave identified a loud sound..." but in the next breath, you say "they notified the Coast Guard immediately of their discovery" which would mean they notified the Coast Guard days after the event (i.e. they could not have notified anyone before they discovered it in their data). Days after the event, the oxygen was already gone even if the hull had of survived. The obvious conclusion is that Cameron's source for the noise information was not the Navy... but it does indicate someone had detected it immediately and correlated it to the event in such a way that they told Cameron about it.

He is just the best at explaining the situation.

Canada is investigating the support ship, Polar Prince. OceanGate found a loophole by using the sub in international waters.

He's on record saying that "I have broken some rules building this"

Your understanding is wrong. The only reason he launched from Canada is because we have by far the closest ports to the Titanic wreck. Certification of subs is not mandatory anywhere, neither in Canada nor the United States. So right away you can see you were misinformed, because the U.S. does not have mandatory certification of subs, nowhere does. So they can't go to Canada to evade certification in the States, because there was nothing to evade. Also, Canada uses the same ROs--regulatory organizations, so we use the same safety standards. And Canada has at least as good a safety record as the U.S. The weaknesses Rush was exploiting was diving in international waters, inferior regulation of subs on a global level, and inaction in the US despite whistleblower warnings and public confessions of rule breaking, disdain for safety and disregard for human lives. Despite that, he was allowed to continue running his US company in the US, selling $250k tickets to passengers who did not comprehend the degree of danger they would be in, giving dishonest reassurances to anxious prospective passengers. Long before Rush put the submersible on a vessel out of St. John's, the closest port to the Titanic wreck, there was already a big problem in terms of safety, ethics and lack of regulation. So there is no point trying to blame Canada. Even if it were true, which it's not, you'd be throwing stones from a glass house--made from glass only certified to 1300 m instead of 3800 m, one of the many whistleblower warnings that went unheeded. You guys unjustly "BLAME CANADA!" so often you should have a song. Oh wait, you've had one for 20 years and just updated it to add heartless lyrics about our tragic and unprecedented wildfires. (600 times worse than usual so far this season here in Quebec.)

Andrew Chang is brilliant

Get a life.

Seriously. It’s hard enough finding an intact body that drowned in a lake. You think you are going to find a body that disintegrated into pieces 12,500 below the surface?

so....will they find remains?

they are fish food. just catch a few fish in that area and bury them 😅

Maybe shattered remains the titanic passe gers that submerged down the ocean got crushed into million pieces and today onky the clothes remain the same thing will happen to the titan victims.

Because it's a interesting story that involves the Titanic and a cheaply made sub taking tourists down there and it goes missing...you don't see that everyday and it gripped everyone's attention. Migrants overloading a old boat is not safe but happens so often it's just another day...

Not necessarily. Its also possible they dropped the ballasts upon losing power/communication.

​@@husg13 The fact that they lost communication *AND* tracking simultaneously says it all, catastrophic failure of the hull.

@@ingvarhallstrom2306 That's absolutely what I believed happened. I'm just not sure of whether or not they heard the hull failing and had time to dropped the ballast weights. The titan had a history of losing communication/tracking. I'm just saying there is a small possibility they lost comm/tracking and maybe power before the implosion. Which would be terrifying.

you dont know that. The weights could be dropped as the result of implosion

Usually NTSB release a final report.

The titan was 3500 metres deep.. I doubt it. The military sonar picked it up though.

100%

Please someone check my math. Assuming interior volume of about 3 cubic meters, pressure of 35 Megapascals, the energy released in the implosion would be volume x pressure, or 105 Megajoules. This is equivalent to 105 sticks of dynamite. Quite a bit of this energy would have been converted to acoustic energy in the human hearing range. Given the distance is only 3.5km and attenuation of sound waves in the human hearing range is about 1dB/km, this sound should have been audible on the surface very clearly.

BS

They are not screwed on the hull, its a cover wall that also hide electrical wires.

its for sale 795k

I also wondered the same thing

You'll never see it because people are snowflakes

Those people weren't billionaires so unfortunately, nobody cares

Well, if those migrants were in a submersible that turned into a human soup can, that would be a headline.

Just kidding 😢

The water pressure at the depth of the Titanic is more like 5500-6000 PSI. Not 2M PSI (assuming that's what you mean by "pounds").

Stockton Rush had his head wrapped around it in a millisecond before he turned into mush.

​@@arguchikI watched the same video they explained it how much that psi would be in lbs.

equivalent to around 50kg of TNT, all released into a tiny space, focused inwards.

@@tilthelightshines Ah, gotcha. I missed that bit. Thanks. :)

start with watching what James Cameron says. And they also had a mechanism to detect (nano) noises at the very start of an implosion. First they would have heard an alarm and then they would have heard noises with their own ears. They also spoke with the mother ship and were ascending

I listened to an interview with James Cameron and Anderson Cooper where Cameron said people he knew in the submersible world said that at 3500m Rush relayed a msg to the support ship to say he's dropping the batteries and coming back up. He said after hearing about that, that the men in the sub may have heard the carbon fibre cracking just before it imploded. I hope these text messages come to light at some point.

They had sensors around the vessel, effectively microphones picking up vibrations from the hull. There has been loud cracks and noises heard from the hull in previous trips. Because the ballast was dropped before the implosion, the theory goes they had heard something inside the vessel that made them wanna abort the mission.

I think he had a personality disorder like Narcissism or Sociopathy. They are just wired that way. They are callous & lack insight. They think everyone else is dumb not to see how awesome they are.

Man that's a substandard joke.

But??? He’s not wrong?

He was the one who dismissed safety. If he was stubborn other employees may not be accountable.

Not necessarily. They're going to examine the debris, they must be planning to pull them out.

@@michellesheaff3779 they said they are not recovering the wreckage

It's an investigation, not a recovery mission. They will pull the Titan debris to the surface for forensic examination.

@@michellesheaff3779 Forensics for what, they already know what happened, why waste money, Oh wait USA prints money.

The plexiglass lookout was a weak point.

@@Richy_T it is out of the field of common sense.

Tin Hat

Not too sensitive at all. If you say it's imploded and keep the whole world in suspense for 4 days, you might as well share the discovery of the debris on the ocean floor. It's too easy for the people who have seen it, to decide to withhold it for everyone else. Nobody is hurt by finishing the story. The victim families themselves might even want to see.

Stop yelling.

What would we do without such an expert analysis....

Your comment seems to be facetious, but if so, I don't get the joke.

@@arguchik There is no joke. At that depth, the implosion of that home made vanity project instantaneously turned the bodies of everyone aboard into boiling hot tomato soup, faster than your eye can blink.