You hit the nail on the head I was looking for a comment like this

It's better to just stay away from these people or don't even argue. Just say the truth once, and walk away. They ignore reality, and as a result, they make themselves more unhappy. If you let them pull you in to their unhappy and argumentative world, you'll be unhappy also. A person can ignore reality, but they cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

I call this mind fuckery.... When you live with someone like this, it eventually makes you question your own sanity because any reasonable person has to explore the possibility that it's them remembering incorrectly. Their tenancy to gaslight so relentlessly and to such an extreme degree, is designed to make you question your sanity. It's mental warfare and it's one of the worst things about living with a narcissist imo. It's wearing on the mind. I've found that writing things down and/or recording conversations is really helpful but not to prove what you actually said to the narc. It's for personal use only- to help you maintain your grasp on reality and remain strong enough to endure the mind fuckery without being roped into pointless arguments. They won't hear you. There's no compromise or compassion to be had. It's best to just walk away.

Genevieve Fosa Yes. I had that too. Once two narcissists insisted that I said that I would definitely do “XYZ” when I merely said I would try if certain conditions allowed. Both insisted I said it. It wasn’t a situation I was confident in, and therefore it was unlike me to state so definitely.

@@eyeamme1917 "...for personal use only..." Probably best to not let them know you are recording conversations. That would just result in a bunch of bogus accusations.

alwaysyouramanda omg lol

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Although I am too old for him to be my dad since I am 28. So to make it pg13 friendly, theres a term for adults, it instead of bucket list hes on the adult bucket list. But Amanda your right hes quite smart and the type to give good advice and wisdom. Altho if he was my dad or your dad I hope if I had narcissism like he mentions in this video... he doesn't tell me I have it in textbook form like in this video. If he was our dad he and we were a narcissist as most fathers would say 'listen you lil shit you think the world revolves about you, you dont care about anyone but yourself, your grounded.' Instead of him gently walking up stairs knocking on the bedroom door even though if hes the dad, most likely his house I could imagine him telling us things gently professionally like this. lol. If you dont agree maybe I just have a fucked up childhood lol. Sorry for rant my best friend/sis died in December so I recently started to realize I am chattering away to random people even though this wont be read by you, you or him or her or them or ... yea... enough morning coffee. Have a good Wednesday my imaginary friend.

But, I Know things ahead of time! Most folks won't LISTEN. And it is just prescient logic and then they're MAD WHEN THEY HAVE IT HAPPEN, STILL UNCHANGED BY TRUTH. INSTEAD, acting like WITCHCRAFT CAUSED IT TO HAPPEN! LOLS 😉 Um, no...logic, logic, logic!

I already know the average person doesn’t want to hear advice, or will be open to it, let alone a narcissist, so I keep to myself much of the time on trivial matters. Everyone almost always thinks they are right.

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Nancy Greydee All narcs are that way.

Yep. Mine too. Then he says things like You cant take the truth can you? In response to my denial of his assertion that I'm a slag, cheat, player etc. He thinks it, therefore its true... Exhausting.

They have their own absolute truth about their lies and nothing you say or show about reality makes a difference . Sick psychos .

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That is funny!!! 😀😅☺️

I agree.

Not ALL are incompetent! I know one who may be a crossover of several malignant types, but behaves in the main like an oscillating Narcissistic personality. The "foil" would NOT " CATCH" HIM! I am in a professional situation with him, and cannot extricate myself. He DOESN'T KNOW, I HAVE FIGURED OUT A LOT OF HIS RATIONALE AND MODUS OPERANDI. I still need his service and am in his debt. No REAL ESCAPE. AND he ALWAYS "COMES THROUGH" but I am in a real predicament and feel imprisoned... I have said a lot even saying this here, I cannot safely explain anything here...

Lisa Smith It’s hard to understand what you mean Lisa 😔, I understand you don’t feel safe 😔. I’m sorry for your situation... I have to agree being involved with a narcissist makes you feel trapped, it’s very difficult to remove yourself... I hope you can find a way and some help, obviously that’s difficult in a public forum where you don’t feel safe to share 🥴, I know that feeling 😐. But you’re right, all shapes, all sizes....Speak to a therapist online... maybe they could help you. I hope so. Good luck. You have the empathy of many of us 😘😘

@@dottyp137 Aw, thx Miss Dotty! (et al).🤗 P.S. The difficulty I have had in not attracting these types is why I am here. Dr Grande is truly a "God SEND" for me. I have to relisten to to him at times because the information is dense material, Psychology is not my field and the delivery speed is a bit fast, my phone has weak audio too! I am out of doors a lot and have a lot of other life issues. Nothing I am ashamed of tho, I'm a Christian...no wastrel ways. Just lots of stuff happens to me and around my family! You'd BE SHOCKED! My FAITH is definitely under SIEGE.

Lisa Smith step up your self care.... you know you’re a good person and don’t forget it 😘 😊

@@dottyp137 Thank you so much. I'm trying, no money makes it tough! LoLs🤣 You are KIND🤗 I have two injuries right now on top of near heat stroke and sudden Idiopathic Edema. I got a bad rope burn ) I let the boys come over and it was their first day back to school and Jr threw s toy when I was fixing the dog rope. It hurt me badly, but I still had to go work the market Sunday and skip church to do it. Hard days! Much more happened there. I got heat exhausted and rammed into a headboard I had to use as a heat shade, hit my nose hard and reinjured my hand trying to save my face... Oh well...

Grey Rock all the way, absolutely.

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As someone with anxiety, someone's tone being nuetral would make me anxious and sad

@@opossumsauce4472Same here. I have rejection sensitivity, and intentional emotionless mess would feel like hostility to me.

@@opossumsauce4472it sounds like you need to learn to regulate your emotions and ask more questions in times of stress. In this case, instead of letting your emotions overtake you because they said no with no emotion, you could ask a follow up question to find out more information about why they are saying “no” in an emotionless manner

All true. But, then there is an afterlife.

Franklin Taylor How about “subtle” instead of sneaky?

@@lisahinebeyourbest 😊more or less what I said. Subtlely investigative. I guess a person is putting out "feelers" when being just subtle, but not exclusively, I guess.

@@lyt_w8t Thank you!

Our culture has also become more narcissistic.

@@cynthiaallen9225 Yes, exactly. Thank you very much.

Nope. There's a serious, knowable pattern of relating that a narcissist uses. It's always about power. You are always their source of power. They practice mind fuckery in order to keep you down. This isn't just someone who is difficult to get along with. It's the authoritarian, abusive father type who needs to control you, and hurt you for their own pleasure. They step on your tail and bat you around like a cat and mouse. It's not your friend who always gives you the silent treatment for an hour when she's mad. It's not even the mom who yells at you too often. If you're in a relationship with a narcissist, it's an unmistakable pattern of relating. It's all about power.

It's hilarious how you invalidate and dismiss others suffering and have put yourself in the position of being the only one who can detect NPD accurately.

@James Black I'm a whistle blower I know about all of the other careers. I am curious about the helping professions. In thinking of writing a paper on it.

I just fired a therapist that gaslit me multiple times, yelled at me in front of my therapy group and devalued me for my religion, and a lot of other emotional abuses. It was horrible.

@@MonaLisaFace I have only the utmost respect for people who report people likevthat to the State Board. What happens when they damage someone,if you do not report them?

@@ShaareiZoharDaas Hunh? Nobody knows it ALL.

@@ShaareiZoharDaas WELL. I "WHISTLEBLEW" on a PREDATOR, who re-injured my hand, (because I wouldn't "PLAY") i.e. be his sexual partner, and THE CORPORATION KEPT THE LIAR, I AM STILL OUT OF WORK. I complained only about the re-injured hand due to him not fixing something and keeping the money. I didn't go on about the other to them as he is a VERY SLICK PREDATOR, HE EVEN JACKED INTO MY BANKING. I scared him though. I got a TECH GRRL'S HELP. AND I have my 2 ND son MONITOR MY BANKING and TOLD PREDATOR boss.

James F definitely. Ive seen issues in my family that go back to world war 2 believe it or not!

It happens. My wife's mother passed down many of her traumas and insecurities to all of her kids. The kids didn't get it quite as bad, and with effort, the kids can conquer the trauma. They just have to want to do it. The mother can even get better if she put in the effort.

Leo B I cant go into details but, on both my parents respective families, I have been able to understand why seemingly normal healthy, close familial bonds are absent. Not to apportion Blame, what I’ve found is repeat patterns. Some of the bonds were broken by premature deaths, some by poverty. All I know is they all endured a lot, I think some of the narcs were really suffering from PTSD but, keeping it bottled up is what had made both sides rotten in certain areas. I’m not saying anyone is bad. However I’m the first to put it all together, to release myself from some of the hurt I’d had meted out to me, due to various family members issues and addictions. I’m not cured, but I am putting an end to this going on another generation if it bloody kills me!

That is what my therapist and doctor keep repeating to me (war, camps, environmental disaster my parents and grandparents went through). I read about it but it would be interesting an episode.

@@cameronreekie6519 Its pretty amazing to hear that you've broken free of the pattern and now understand how to be happy. I'm happy for you. It takes lots of strength and humility to get to where you are now.

Great post!

Covert narcissists agree with you. The term sounds cooler. They don't like vulnerable, because they dislike being seen as such =D

Chloee Audry I don’t think I agree with you. Covert narcissists are almost always liars and cheaters. Who cares if it’s not their intention to hurt others, they still do. They also rarely take responsibility which causes more pain. They are insecure? Well who isn’t? Others who are insecure don’t cause nearly as much harm as covert narcs

Chloee Audry so its ok for them to continue hurting people? I can’t believe what you are saying. Murderers get punished regardless of their bad upbringings. What does conform mean to you?

Chloee Audry Covert narcs have no compassion. Anger is an appropriate response to injustice. Getting betrayed etc. i try having compassion for them, and they abuse me more. But that’s my problem, they dont have to conform right. There are no good outcomes for those who love narcs

Thank you 🙂

@@DrGrande Which Video? I heard you mention "Oscillation between Overt and Covert Narcissistic Qualities," but I do not recall a singular, specifically targeted video so entitled. I'm very interested as my family of origins has at least 2 of these CHAMELEON-LIKE Entities, and unfortunately I had to be screwed over by both and perhaps my "Stepfather" was also one. He and one of the original trio, STILL LIVE. Although both, OR either ARE going to be statistical victims soon enough, AGED, DISEASED, BOTH. ONE ALREADY GONE. THESE THREE HAD THE KEYS TO THE "FAMILY POWER OF NARRATIVE" (Storytelling) AND DEFRAUDED ME OF WIDER FAMILY CONNECTION AND CARE AND RESPECT AND I AM 💯 ANGRY ABOUT THE ABUSE AND COVER 😡 UPS! I'm trying to heal from their abuses and not be "Narc bait" ever after. As I still get "targeted" by male/female predators, I'd like to view that Video, very much! I WANT TO BE WELL SO MUCH! Thank you.😋

You're welcome 🙂

Learned about that definition of missing the target many years ago. Thanks for pointing to it.

Lisa, the fact you resisted tells me you possess a high level of resisustalism. Would you agree? (wink, wink)

@@storyteller0111 Yes, sadly, in fact Resistulism caused me to delay answering. I'm sorry, I'm seeking treatment, whom do you recommend Dr Grande, or Dr Spock? I rather lean towards Dr Grande, but then I resist getting an appointment...oh how can I heal? Sigh...lol!

@@lisasmith516 While I am familiar with Dr. Spock's work, as he is more of an expert for Vulcanic Personality Disorder than resisustalism, I'd recommend Dr. Grande.

You are so right! It is more cultural than anything else.

Hahaha.....lol 😁😁😁

That can't be... it's real someone here has it, THEY SAID SO! (JK 😉)

They're related

Well, you're wrong. Many people, especially fire chiefs knew that the buildings were done for once they were hit that way and had no expectation of saving the building. There are many stories of the first responders being told to evacuate the buildings because they could hear it was failing and that it was going to collapse. I'm sure the building engineers knew the building was going to collapse and I'm sure there are some armchair quarterbacks who correctly guessed it would happen. I remember watching live on TV that day when the second plane hit the South Tower. I do remember thinking that there was a good chance they were going to collapse, but also remember hoping that they would have enough time to evacuate the people from the buildings before they did collapse. I think I was a bit surprised at how quickly they collapsed after being hit but after reading the reports on why the building collapsed and the damage that was done, it did make a whole lot more sense.

You got it. Have a wonderful day! ❤

Yep and some ppl prob just give no fucks about others

sleepy_cat I know one who has a very high IQ and spends hours reading and reading all The great philosophers and masters and history like has an expansive range of real knowledge used to prop himself up.

Lol.. if you are that bad, just go to one who does sedation

'plates of parallax drive your pulse tax through the roof?' Yeah.... You might be one. Just saying.

@@brusselsprout5851 It's an interesting term and concept, which I'd never heard before this evening. Think of the putative president, constantly "overclaiming" his bank account (among many, many other things) throughout his career as a grifter--he's the "Overclaimer in Chief." I like the Asian philosophies that emphasize the importance of knowing what you don't know; but I don't want to overclaim knowledge of them. People should practice saying, "You know, I just don't know"--it actually feels good. "Ignorance is bliss," they say.

@@brusselsprout5851 Yes. An awareness of one's ignorance might be an essential precondition for learning. As would the clearing away of all we think we know. And you're right: it is fun.

@@elainelouve Other commentators say narcissism is epidemic in the world today, especially in the States (see Sam Vaknin, a self-identified narcissist who became an expert in his affliction). I plead complete ignorance of Finnish.

@@elainelouve I don't know Finnish but how do you conjugate a place name? I thought a verb is the part of speech that is conjugated! You don't conjugate nouns, at least not in English.

@@johnpaul5474 I totally agree with you here. It would be such a nice change to have people admit they don't know anything about a certain topic or that they know 'x and y' but that's it. Maybe society has become more accepting of narcissistic behaviour and that includes this type of intellectual dishonesty? As an INTJ - on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, and a 5 (5w4 to be exact) on the Enneagram - one of the things I really dislike is intellectual dishonesty which is both the tendency of people to claim knowledge or expertise they don't actually have and matters like plagiarism. My (adult) son is also an INTJ and whilst he thinks the MBTI is "unscientific", preferring the 'Big 5' (or OCEAN), he also truly detests people pretending to possess knowledge in areas they lack. Narcissists seem very inclined to 'self-enhancement', as Dr. Grande refers to this sort of boasting, and it's frustrating to hear them do this - especially when they start claiming expertise in an area you personally have studied extensively! My uncle does this. Years ago when I was studying at Uni and one of my two majors was Classical Hebrew he invited me to what was supposedly a shared birthday party - he and I are born in December. It turned out to really be all about him, and before it began he tried to tell me he, too, was well versed in Classical Hebrew. I wasn't impressed considering knowing his tendency to claim expertise he lacked. So I tested him by asking him to "demonstrate" his knowledge by first reading the Hebrew aloud and then translating it into English. Since he regularly attends church - being and priding himself on being a church "elder" (of the Open Brethren denomination: like the Baptists but with multiple men in charge rather than one Minister) - I decided to ensure I picked a section of the Tanakh (Old Testament) that he'd not likely have known by heart in English from church services. He failed to pronounce the Hebrew, completely mangling the words, and didn't translate but instead told me he was "a bit out of practice". After I then read out a long section in Hebrew - one I let him select - then translated into English, there was a heavy silence followed by my narcissistic uncle barely admitting that I was conversant with the language and merely saying he just needed to get back into the Old Testament. But he then went on to say Christians were meant to focus on the New Testament and thereby to basically disregard the fact he had lied about his knowing Hebrew and that I did but to diminish any importance of my knowing the language. That evening was then filled with a focus on him and I was fed up after a few hours of his talking to my relatives. Narcissists wouldn't know how to truly share anything let alone a birthday celebration. These days he is still as arrogant and smug as ever and I cut ties with him a decade ago. My mother is more a covert narc - their mother had full-blown NPD, imo - and she's less likely to pretend to knowledge she lacks but she prefers to avoid topics where she's not knowledgeable - which certainly limits what can be discussed, particularly since if it's not about her as a victim of other's behaviours she ends the conversation quickly. At every school she seems to have taught at she has complained of being mistreated by other teachers and has said they have taken a dislike to her. I don't think it can be all to do with office politics and think it's to do with her. She's my mother but even I don't like being physically around her, finding her draining and her energy 'negative', for want of a better term. Anyway, narcissists don't have the ego-strength to admit not knowing about a topic and since they tend to be resistant to treatment - both to attending therapy and to actually positive change - the best option to take is to avoid them or minimise contact when possible. They'll also seem unfazed when exposed and yet another trait that indicates a narcissistic type is a failure to apologise to others. I know one man who actually prides himself on never apologising to anyone. Needless to say the only 'friends' he has these days are two fellow narcissists, females who are pensioners and live seemingly to gossip about others in the neighbourhood.

M Buszka I’m not a dr but I’ve done a ton of research and it seems it is so, almost a coping mechanism or way of being because you are numb from finding out your life isn’t what you thought it was and in a sense it could be auto piollot mode at least that’s what my experience was, since I then couldn’t trust anyone so therefore I had an air of not caring and not letting people get close or show any emotion while on the inside I’m constantly trying to figure out what went wrong and what is happening in this point of my life... all the while being so in my head but the world and day to day activities goes on so what I show is basically that automatic autopilot mode and it’s narcissistic and luckily just a stage. For I knew it would take me 2 years at least to get better but I can imagine it could be permanent depending on. The amount and severity of trauma....? As for hanibal he was most definitely a psychopath

@@15-gurdjieff88 I agree of what You are talking about PTSD, but this is also why I think, CREATION of Lecter is more of a sociopath with PTSD than what I know, through of 13 years of passionate self-studing of psychopathology, psychopath. Or...hibrid that was made by authors. But there are flaws in 'psychopath theory' I am resistant to overlook. First and most important thing, considering genesis, he made it his 'signature' to eat his victims, which looks awfully close to coping with his BELOVED sister tragic death. Which drive me to another question: if truely psychopath, why he cared so much and was in such deep shock after finding out he and others ate his sister to live through? Why, at first, he seems resistant to kill those abusers years later? Why he cared for this older Japanese woman, or let Starling go? Ok last one can be something of shape of Narcissistic Affection, like if person prooved to be interesting, they will be most likely to be 'kept around' in case Psychopath/Sociopath got bored again... but Japanese woman he truely seemed to care for. Anyway, as it is creation it is some mix and as someone with brain dominated by theta waves myself, I definitely CAN see psychopath in him. Brain low on adrenaline and low amplitude of waves, he need adrenaline to stay awake, often...I am guessing on my case. I know, creation and all, but if someone after PTSD can become detouched...can possible sociopathy aspect change details to look like psychopathy? So much questions...so frw answers.

M Buszka i see what you’re saying.. personally I think there needs to be more study in this area and it should be forefront of all other mental disorders/issues in psychology and basically the development of the human mind.. I think there is more categories that aren’t labeled and therefore we are just throwing an individual into one of a couple categories when there may be many many more... and is it something that should be put into categories? Obviously we’ve went about it wrong because steps would be in place to safe guard against people that cause harm. The only solution I can logically see working is to either test every one at birth and throughout life or they die. (BrAin scans etc) or prevent birth in ones where certain genes are present. I would be in the group that should t have been born if we took that theory... it’s gotten way out of hand. I do know that narcism is spiritual and linked with demons, it’s a world that many are unaware exist and if one teies to show it to others they risk getting put in a mental institution go figure. It’s been years since I watched lecter and his movies.. I do know a man who couldn’t love but yet his relatives he had a sort of love and protection over them but it wasn’t true love and I don’t know what you call it maybe he sees them as an extension of hisself and that’s why ? Too many questions is right and I find this subject fascinating

M Buszka another way to look at it is one may be born without a soul (psycoyhpath) and one may be born with a soul but they either become “possessed “ or they lose their soul (sociopath )... it does seem they have no soul and if that is the case, then can they ever retain it?? I’d like to think they can but I don’t think it’s ever happened.. one can study it with doctor degree and what have you, but for one to be involved with a narc/psychopath/sociopath, is the only way to “see” what it’s like and how real it is. Words can’t really explain it easily, so many people misuse the words and they have lost their weight or their meaning... have you ever been involved with one? And also I think that because one is psycopath doesn’t necessarily make them bad and it definitely doesn’t make them a killer but I think there is categories/labels that don’t exist that certain types are... reptilian? And there we go again, overusing and misusing words and concepts so it loses its meaning !!! Idk the lady who made the diabolical narcissm video was spot on and shows some good points... I started watching paycopass, thanks for sharing, (phone texting so misspelling sorry )

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Yes, I must second this request. And if Dr. Grande would like some critical analysis of the 'Armchair Detective', Mary Marlowe &/or "Miss Mensa", there are reputable channels on KZfaq that have exposed their narcissism. Alan Vinnicombe (aka the 'Armchair Detective') is, in my opinion, severely narcissistic - if not a man with full-blown NPD. His behaviour regarding the 'Chris Watts case', as he calls it, has been replete with such obvious narcissism and pathological lying e.g. the made up 'Insiders' at Dodge, security guard at Anadarko - both found to have IP addresses in the U.K. not the U.S. - and his having a florist pretend to be a 'psychic' "channelling" Shan'ann Watts. AD's behaviour has been truly disturbing and his motive is money and being seen as famous. Lately, Mary Marlowe has started churning out conspiracy theories saying Chris Watts "doesn't have it in him" to murder and trying to blame NK and the 'Jim' mentioned briefly by NK in interviews with LE. Marlowe also exhibits narcissistic traits which would be amusing perhaps if her theories weren't so hurtful to the Rzuceks and if she weren't also profiting financially from continuing to focus on the case. Lately I read she was asking for PayPal donations so she could take a "holiday" with a daughter - this is quite sickening considering how her rants when not focused on how knowledgeable she claims to be - repeatedly - are disrespectful to the Rzuceks who have not only lost their only daughter in horrific and tragic circumstances but have publicly requested people, especially on social media, cease using the murders to financially profit. "Miss Mensa" has chosen to attack and vilifying Shan'ann Watts to the extent of blaming her for the girl's murders and her own i.e. claiming she pushed Chris Watts to 'snap' and murder her. She's put out books about this, also, and when criticised has instantly played the victims in a manner quite vile considering how she's attacked, defamed and made utterly false allegations up about Shan'ann. She, too, has ignored the Rzuceks' requests to stop and this is despite Frankie Rzucek mentioning her by name along with AD and a few other channel creators. Mary Marlowe has also ignored the Rzuceks' public plea by Frank Rzucek Snr. Hopefully Dr. Grande is already aware of these three characters and, if not, is willing to research their behaviours especially regarding the case of Chris Watts - narcissism is very evident with Alan Vinnicombe/Armchair Detective, Mary Marlowe, and "Miss Mensa".

@@Adara007 Dear, Dr Grande probably must abstain, I am sure he understands the indignities heaped on the murder victims' survivors and is dismayed. It is an apallingly horrific crime! But, the difficulty is, embroiling himself in something so awful as these KZfaq sensationalists with their awful circus side show! As a professional, it just does not work well, and he is, at this point, EDUCATIONAL BUT WITHOUT INTENTIONAL "BIAS" and acts primarily on KZfaq as a guide of sorts to General Psychological Deviancy and Abnormalities, but also speaks to frequently encountered Psyche Issues in General. Murderers are discussed diagnostically, but so far as I'm aware, not the profiteers of those VICTIMS and their families, LIKE MEDIA REPORTAGE sensationalizes such horrific crimes as well, most often, ETC....THIS IS not to diminish his private practice or scholarly pursuits. I just think he would have to strain so much to examine it thoroughly, cleanly and ethically that it would become a nightmare BLACK HOLE. HE might do something more general that would encompass their outlandish, venal and subhuman greed and cruelty though! YAY!

@@lisasmith516 From the perspective of having a background in the Psychological field, I can understand the problematic issues inherent in addressing those individuals on KZfaq directly - especially when it's likely to bring more attention to the channels of those narcissists who have exploited the tragedies for their own financial and psychological gain. It would likely only give them more 'exposure' and now that Dr. Grande's established a channel which is respected as informed by and grounded in science and has become widely viewed, to directly focus upon such individuals would just provide them with attention that I am sure they'd enjoy no matter how negative. What would be perhaps possible would be examining the modern-day tendency to not only sensationalise matters like true crime but to exploit the victims of violent crime as well as their loved ones - and to use social media platforms to do so. The actual case of the murder of Shan'ann Watts (nee Rzucek) and her daughters is a very evident example where this has happened and one which could be examined with regards to the tendency to sensationalism, the way conspiracy theories abound and flourish (especially due to social media), and the behaviours and personality disorders associated with the types of people who engage in such behaviours - including their focus on becoming 'celebrities' (if only in their own minds) by being seen as 'experts' of sorts in regards to true crime, and the focus on financial gain through monetizing such videos and constantly requesting money from viewers. In the U.S. such behaviours not only breach the Crime Victims' Rights Act, specifically "The right to be treated with fairness and with respect for the victim's dignity and privacy", but also the recently updated policies on social media platforms regarding content that promotes "violence or hatred against individuals or groups...and their kin [who were] victims of a major violent event" as seen on KZfaq, for example. However, those individuals who were mentioned in earlier comments disregard these rights and policies and they do so most likely due to high degrees of narcissism and sociopathy. Therefore, perhaps what could be examined is the way narcissists and sociopaths use social media with or without examining specific tragic events like the way the murder of Shan'ann Watts and her daughters has been exploited for psychological and financial gain. Certainly, social media is a playground for and much beloved by those with narcissistic and sociopathic traits and this alone is a topic which could be analysed in an objective manner and without necessarily having to name those types who want the attention of an intelligent and highly regarding Psychologist like Dr. Grande. There's a channel on KZfaq by a Derek Van Schaik who focuses on body language, criminal investigations and - to a limited degree - psychological matters, and he has analysed the narcissism and sociopathy of certain 'internet personalities' such as Logan Paul - who, among other negative behaviours - infamously mocked the body of a man who had committed suicide by hanging in the Aokigahara forest in Japan. Derek Van Schaik also examined the pathological lying, narcissism and sociopathy that Jake Paul Logan consistently demonstrates on KZfaq videos. It would be interesting to see Dr. Grande's extensive psychological knowledge and expertise applied to individuals like those brothers - without necessarily focusing on those two alone - who flourish on and because of social media. Certainly, an analysis of the way social media has contributed to narcissistic and sociopathic individuals gaining attention and financial profit would definitely be interesting and educational.