I feel the opposite. In 2012 or so when it launched i remember thinking that was really expensive for a digital unit but after seeing what it does, it's a freaking bargain.

@@blues3531 maybe I was misunderstood, and share the same sentiment.

​@@Matt_on_lifeI think they differ on the timing in comparison to the people you were referring to in your comment. "...isn't worth the cost any longer" suggests that it was worth earlier and now it isn't. Where as the other viewpoint is that it wasn't worth earlier but is worth now.

Exactly my idea. Or have the profiling done in two or three steps. Probably the reason that they didn’t implement that is that users would tweak the knobs anyway and create a heap of support tickets. But then again, with morphing you sort of have this kind of functionality as well so it must be possible to implement

I´m curious too.

Soooooooon

Think it’s already out in beta

It’s here haha

Foreshadowing

I can't find it in the uk. Either for phone or kindle.

@@murphytoonz It's not out yet

@@TheTrendkillerx OK. I'm looking forward to it. Will I need to fit a wireless dongle to the kemper? Do you know?

@@murphytoonz I think both devices need to be in the same WIFI to connect.

The Stage and Player have their own built in WiFi access points. You can connect wirelessly to Rig Manager on your Laptop or Tablet or cell phone. using WiFi.

He can't they're still using the same 10+ year old DSP tech so it's going to sound worse than newer units that also profile.

11:25 he mentions that the quality will improve, but he has no news on that at the moment. 🤦🏽

Accurate Profiles? Really, so you trust the KZfaqr influencers sitting at home claiming to know how to make accurate Profiles? Like the one guy who left Pure cabinet ON when Profiling and didn't realise it before posting all over KZfaq? Or the other scientists doing NUL tests? Make two different QC or ToneX captures of the same amp, change one EQ setting or move the mic an inch, now NUL test the two Captures and the result will be a NUL test failure. There are dozens of Profiling videos on KZfaq where Andertons, Rob Chappers, Tim Pierce, Rick Beato's studio engineer, Nashville engineers, etc etc didn't know whether they were playing the Profile or real amp....so what accuracy are you talking about, KZfaqr influencers sitting in their amateur studios looking for subscribers and hits? You're missing the point. The Kemper sounds amazing and that's why thousands of guitarists and touring bands playing to sold out arenas use them live whilst other guitarists spend their lives watching KZfaq videos searching for ways to waste more money on gear they don't need!

It’s been ten years, technology moves forward. Things get updated, . It would make sense the process, would be updated. Also, I have both and the tonex does feel a little different and takes pedals better. I still gig with and use the kemper all the time in the studio but an update of the process makes sense. Also, the null tests may not be the end all be all but they do point to something.

Not to mention the namm algorithm was just basically given out for free. All modelers and profilers should get an update or alteration based on that. It should help with the process for anyone in this industry

While your not wrong I was able to pick up a mint condition Kemper Rack (non powered for 1000 US dollars shipped. The deals are out there as some are jumping ship.

They hit the market with a $698.00 PLAYER model. I own all the Kempers and the Player is a mini masterpiece..

Why do troll every Kemper video with your Friedman comments? Grow up!!!

Firstly, why would a manufacturer have to share there invention with their competitors by not patenting it? Then I have the impression that 99,9% the guitarists that move away from Kemper to axefx , helix ,QC etc are only into heavily distorted sounds.

@@Johnsormani its for the betterment of the industry. Kemper isnt willing to make the harder the people are wanting so let someone else do it. And i would disagree about only distortion seeking players leaving Kemper, id say its pretty equal, if anything the distortion guys are the ones staying with Kemper. If they are leaving its because kemper doesnt model distortion pedals, it might be hard for some to understand why thats a big deal, but most people need the flexibility

@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender I bought my kemper 10 years ago. It was a huge game changer back then. Now , with all the competitors it might look different .but nobody is complaining that a 68 plexi doesn’t have a reverb or chorus built in 10 years after introduction. Many guitar players nowadays are just focusing on the perfect standalone sound . They don’t care about how it sounds in a band or a mix or if the audience hears a difference . Many are more focused on their sound than on making music. I play guitar since 45 years, design and build my own tube amps, but still I see a huge value in the profiler , even after a decade of use

@@Johnsormani i disagree, i think most players want a base sound and then work from that up with pedals and effects, be it analog, profiled or modelled. I open for a lot of touring acts about 60-75% use modellers. The Kemper is starting to sound dated. It may have been the best 5 years ago. But now i notice it sticking out in a plastic way, although the audience mostly cant tell the difference

k….

How many metal bands and big bands/artists are touring playing live in stadiums using Kempers and how many are using ToneX or QC?

In only read these kind of criticism coming from heavy metal guitarists that complain about capturing a 5150 on 11 with a sd1 on 10