Splash Mountain: Why Tiana's Almost There (and why that's okay)

Splash Mountain: Why Tiana's Almost There (and why that's okay) | STATE OF THE PARKS

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Some Jerk With A Camera brings back State Of The Parks with a lengthy editorial video essay on the history and future of Disney's iconic flume ride Splash Mountain, as well as the movie it's based on, 1946's Song of the South, and why everybody needs to please calm down about the recently-announced retheme based on The Princess and the Frog.
0:00 - Opening disclaimers
1:30 - What did I miss?
2:39 - Disney World reopened during a pandemic?!?
5:17 - Splash Mountain is being rethemed
10:07 - You're not gonna #SaveSplashMountain.
13:23 - Joel Chandler Harris and Uncle Remus
14:50 - Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah
16:55 - Song of the South is bad and also racist
21:21 - Should Disney erase their racist history?
23:57 - The Bear Country problem
24:52 - The no flume ride problem
26:34 - The America Sings problem
29:03 - How Splash Mountain got its name
31:03 - Song of the South's final rerelease
32:23 - Splash Mountain opens in 1989
35:13 - Hey, it's still open in Tokyo!
36:16 - The Princess and the Frog
37:42 - Jurassic Park: The Ride
38:20 - Why Tiana is a better fit anyway
41:46 - Why Disney announced this in 2020
44:35 - Credits
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@Hewylewis 3 жыл бұрын

I'll bet they'll have Lewis the Alligator play "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah" on his trumpet as an Easter egg. :)

@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, Idea Hewy.

@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын

that would be amazing

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

I like that idea and I can totally see that

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

Now I want a Princess and the Frog ride even more!

@waltdisney7512 3 жыл бұрын

Just like the real-life Louis Armstrong (the character's namesake) played back in the day! Fans should push hard for this. :)

@ToucanLDM 3 жыл бұрын

That "Someone's Waiting For You" chorus was too much! XD

@c0mf0rta61ynum6 3 жыл бұрын

I think the song from The Rescuers that would have made the most sense for that part of the ride would have been "Rescue Aid Society".

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

@@c0mf0rta61ynum6 yeah but that wouldn't have been as funny

@jacobcolton3828 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like Tomorrow is another day is the only song people know from that movie

@michaelwilliamybarra2409 3 жыл бұрын

@@TonyGoldmark Speaking of music, who's the artist who plays the cover of "Zip a Dee Do Dah" at 15:41 and 46:36? I thought it was Ray Charles, but I'm not getting any results like that same video and audio I've marked. Is it someone else? (To be clear, for those who inquire my choice of words, I'm not well versed in varying pop artists in general so I'm only asking which artist made a cover of this popular song I don't particularly care for(I don't think it's bad or good, I just don't care, it's Disney and that's all that matters to me really), and I went of a quick but vague visual image of Ray Charles, hoping I'll have SOME guidance towards any videos available of this one rendition I'm finding myself really liking.)

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelwilliamybarra2409 It was indeed Ray Charles, from THIS special: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b82Gpsqg1snGoY0.html

@matth3w2002 3 жыл бұрын

I swear to god if this ride doesn't have a commercial with a bunch of teenagers trying to ride the new ride but aren't able to, leading to them having an out of body experience including hip hop construction workers, it will already be worse than splash mountain.

@cameronpearce5943 3 жыл бұрын

20:00 'Get Out ~ The Musical' Is it wrong that I kinda want that now

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Only thing we need is a full version of "Everybody's Got a Sunken Place" and 10+ more songs

@PaintSplashProductions 3 жыл бұрын

I 👏 want 👏 it 👏

@sarahmcmann5253 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForrestFox626 yeah that would be awesome

@jacobcolton3828 3 жыл бұрын

They also could have made a little mermaid ride, but it would have required CRAB EXPERIMENTS

@Jonathanest90s 3 жыл бұрын

We already got one. Just go to California Adventure.

@allisonmartin3982 3 жыл бұрын

But we must condemn it for not having CRAB EXPERIMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!

@allisonmartin3982 3 жыл бұрын

Mattbrain It means CRAB EXPERIMENTS

@allisonmartin3982 3 жыл бұрын

I mean needs

@allisonmartin3982 3 жыл бұрын

Who liked my reply

@antifagoat6591 3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else have a horrified laughing fit at the "Sunken Place" song? That's a new level of horror comedy - SOCIAL horror comedy.

@sethbrokmeier3744 3 жыл бұрын

You know, that would have been even funnier if he had included a clip of the sunken log car.

@SiRenfield 3 жыл бұрын

I laughed my ass off, which I guess is appropriate

@quietchap 3 жыл бұрын

As many others have said, there NEEDS to be a Tiana's Place restaurant to complete the theming. It would especially fit in New Orleans Square in Disneyland

@daelen.cclark 2 жыл бұрын

Well put.

@captaintaco979 Жыл бұрын

You finally got your wish!

@quietchap Жыл бұрын

@@captaintaco979 I know right?! When I heard the news I lost it. Couldn’t believe they actually did it

@matthewn1566 3 жыл бұрын

How sweet that you'd pay tribute to Chadwick Boseman at the beginning of the video. Wakanda forever.

@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын

WAKANDA FOREVER TOO!

@lunamalfoy7 3 жыл бұрын

I look forward to Tony renaming his channel to "One User".

@freakfoxvevo7915 3 жыл бұрын

"One User With A Camera" perhaps?

@brycevo 3 жыл бұрын

This is honestly a good thing. The ride gets to stay, except now it gets some well needed deep repairs and a fully updated story featuring a character from a movie that deserves more love. I hope we can also get a Tiana's Place food area nearby. But the whole scrubbing all traces Zip A Dee Doo Dah is a little too much. It's still deeply ingrained in the parks, and I'm disappointed they're removing all traces of it

@JazzyTyfighter 3 жыл бұрын

Even before this retheme, I was wondering why Tiana’s Palace never became a reality at New Orleans Square. I would pay good money to eat her pumpkin gumbo and beignets.

@Jonathanest90s 3 жыл бұрын

Jazzy Tyfighter that needs to be built too

@BostonMBrand 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the imagineers will probably leave in some form of splash mountain references, whether it be small nods or something else. They’re going to want to appeal to all fans in order to maintain sales.

@Pratchettgaiman 3 жыл бұрын

Not related to Splash Mountain, but if you want to read the Uncle Remus stories and not feel bad about it, you should check out Julius Lester's Complete Tales of Uncle Remus which have the benefit of an actual black person having written them as opposed to a white guy trying to capture slave dialect....yikes. Also Lester's just a good writer, plus they include artwork by Jerry Pinkney!

@MistCLaneous 3 жыл бұрын

And then Universal made a direct-to-DVD animated feature based on Lester's telling of the stories! Not kidding.

@monhunterz5430 3 жыл бұрын

@@MistCLaneous Is it good, or at the very least inoffensive?

@daelen.cclark 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like fun.

@VirtualBoy500 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely had assumed that Splash Mountain had just always been at the park since it opened. This backstory is fascinating

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Idk how or why but for whatever reason it just seems like it was always there.

@SonofMrPeanut 3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanfilipovits21 That's a credit to the imagineers. As far as the mountain and how it compliments the environment, they made it feel timeless.

@Robo983 3 жыл бұрын

That revelation legit felt like a Mandela effect thing.

@cyanmanta 3 жыл бұрын

As someone born in 1983, I can tell you that Splash Mountain opening definitely happened in my lifetime. I was eight when it opened in Florida.

@VidtopiaEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын

*Tony Goldmark uploads new State of the Parks episode* OUR THEME PARK KING HAS RETURNED!!!

@Linkbrawler9000 3 жыл бұрын

“Everybody’s Got a Sunken Place” had me dying. Great content as always!

@sydneyagnew8748 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, how DARE you remind me that The Wild was a Disney movie.

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

I forgot The Wild even existed

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I had to watch the whole damn thing for the podcast. Y'all can handle ten seconds of it in this video.

@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын

The Wild was Madagascar but less funny?

@Collageman90 3 жыл бұрын

@@teddyfurstman1997 The tragic thing of that movie is it was the final film to have Will Vinton's name on it before his retirement and death.

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

@@Collageman90 Well... that's depressing.

@c.w.r.794 3 жыл бұрын

It is for this topic, I have willingly disassociated myself with Disney related Facebook groups. They are just a whole new level of crazy

@clarkmorgan4199 3 жыл бұрын

You said it!

@Emplordxiii 3 жыл бұрын

While I do enjoy the ride due to being a great mixture of a log flume and dark ride attractions, I’m fine for it being replaced. The animatronics are in terrible shape and updating it to Princess and the Frog could bring in some new, imaginative set pieces, effects, and animatronics. Plus, having animals that actually exist in the bayou could make it more authentic than just jamming in random animals from America Sings.

@Emplordxiii 3 жыл бұрын

Mattbrain I was expecting some touch ups on the animatronics when the ride closed for a major refurb back in 2018 but it was just the drop.

@JazzyTyfighter 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Imagine the modern technology from Disney World’s Snow White ride in this one with improved animatronics and crystal clear projection technology.

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, u need to write a book on the history of Disneyland or WDW. It’d be hilarious and I’d read the f**k out of it.

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

Eh, maybe someday.

@sethbrokmeier3744 3 жыл бұрын

I'd buy it. A book on not only the whole of the park but the impact, history, and purpose of each ride. That sounds amazing!

@lukecarlson4710 3 жыл бұрын

I’d buy it.

@AlbinoAxolotl1993 3 жыл бұрын

Or you could write the forward of one by Defunctland.

@iHeartsNostalgiaPit 3 жыл бұрын

@@AlbinoAxolotl1993 ^this!

@Tacom4ster 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't watch the movie unless Spike Lee and Whoopi Goldberg gets a commentary to watch on the background

@locuas5601 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly. I would be genuinely interested in it being dissected and used as study material in specific types of classrooms. particularly in classes dealing with racism and movies of this topic.

@NugicusStreetPhotography 3 жыл бұрын

@@locuas5601 If they could manage to stay awake through it.

@jenniferschillig3768 3 жыл бұрын

You read my mind about having "ARE YOU READY?!" playing as you ascend the lift hill. The ride's storyline just HAS to involve Facilier in some way. (You know, "he escaped the demons" or it's his ghost or some such.)

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

We could go with the cliché we are going you one more chance?

@kingralph627 Жыл бұрын

3 years later the Nutcracker joke has aged like fine wine

@Juanthemtg Ай бұрын

I actually watched the film and I LITERALLY don’t remember a SINGLE thing

@BrandonCroker 3 жыл бұрын

Plenty of sunshine headed my way ‘cause I’m almost there!

@biblegirl 3 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is as a kid I assumed the Knott's log ride was a rip off of Splash Mountain. It was the sort of thing you felt like was always there.

@goob_goob_gooby_goob 3 жыл бұрын

Introducing... ...One user with a Camera!

@IfIHadMyTimeAgain 3 жыл бұрын

*One user with a Muggle contraption

@NugicusStreetPhotography 3 жыл бұрын

One baby boy with a camera.

@TheITinFIT 3 жыл бұрын

I worked on Pirates of the Caribbean back in 2012 and I remember overhearing a CM saying that Imagineering was already working on a Princess And The Frog revamp of Splash Mountain way back then. The same CM claimed that they saw a virtual mockup of the attraction so I took it with a grain of salt. Good to see it’s actually happening, though. I appreciate the animated segments of Song of the South for its, well, animation, but Princess and the Frog is the better all-around movie that deserves a ride.

@kylemorello4787 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@sarah98917 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen it, but the cartoon characters look cute

@oyster2746 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta say I was pretty neutral on this change...till you mocked up the "are you ready" lift...I need it

@sustelsuk 3 жыл бұрын

Kinda weird having a ride based on a film that no kid aren’t able watch due to ‘issues’

@tscream80 3 жыл бұрын

"What movie are those singing gators from?"

@SiRenfield 3 жыл бұрын

My dad actually did talk about the movie and it’s controversies when we were waiting in line (he is a Boomer ,but he’s not white just for the record). I liked the SOTS Splash Mountain as a kid mostly because I was a naïve little girl that just thought bunnies were cute (that and Jess Harnell I guess LOL). I also have a weird, fun story about a Brer Rabbit doll I got at the gift shop

@sarah98917 3 жыл бұрын

I do admit, that is confusing.

@TheFoxFromSplashMountain 6 ай бұрын

@@tscream80They're not even from Song of the South, they're from the defunct Disney attraction called America Sings, as are most of the other characters in Splash Mountain.

@VentiMel 3 жыл бұрын

I'm all for the change. I do like Splash Mountain, but I adore Princess and the frog so I'm on Team Tiana. I wonder if they would change the name of the ride, I could totally see them naming it Splash Bayou or something similar.

@MegaAnimationFan 3 жыл бұрын

So in short, this video could be summarized with "Here! Educate yourself" XD Great video as always Tony, I was looking forward to this for a while and I was not disappointed :)

@StoogesFan 3 жыл бұрын

I will miss Splash Mountain, but re-theming it to Princess and the Frog will be a breath of fresh air, and going on the same rides over and over again would inevitably get boring and dated, so I'll be looking forward to the new ride. And with re-theming, can Disney World change the Dinoland USA, that section of Animal Kingdom is boring and feels like you stepped into Six Flags (not a good sign), instead change Dinoland USA to a Zootopia themed area.

@BostonMBrand 3 жыл бұрын

Well they should keep the Dinosaur ride in some way, but I agree. I also agree that while it will be missed, the new Splash Mountain theme would work perfectly.

@wesleyhunt7599 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone loves Dinosaurs though! I think they should add to it and spice it up, but not remove it.

@samuelazzaro 3 жыл бұрын

I'd say just make it more in themeing with the area near the dinosaur ride. Maybe add an aviary because......well birds are dinosaurs.......

@StoogesFan 3 жыл бұрын

Universal has the Jurassic Park section which beats Dinoland USA effortlessly.

@BostonMBrand 3 жыл бұрын

Wesley Hunt I agree. I’ve always enjoyed the ride there (the one where you travel through time to capture a dinosaur). I’d hope it could become more than the Kiddie section of Animal Kingdom.

@KRPeart 3 жыл бұрын

Fine, I can accept Splash Mountain going away. But all I want now is a proper "farewell" celebration for its closing, and an Easter egg of it in the retheme.

@freakfoxvevo7915 3 жыл бұрын

Covid makes me fear that the "Farewell celebration" won't happen, but the Easter Egg is basically guaranteed, Disney does it practically every time a ride is replaced/rethemed

@merimoon731 3 жыл бұрын

Stevefreak VEVO they probably won’t start returning it for a while, they’ll most likely want to want to keep it around through the 50th Anniversary. And they literally just started planning it, something this big should take all the time it needs

@SiRenfield Жыл бұрын

I mean the Easter egg isn’t impossible considering P&TF is set in the 20’s and Uncle Remus has a…complicated history in African-America culture, but admittedly Disney seems to want to distance themselves from the property further

@Emplordxiii 3 жыл бұрын

@20:56 funny thing about Birth of a Nation: l live, and including my neighborhood block, in the former area that housed the studio lot owned by DW Griffith. Hell, the area that housed the main office, which has a Historical Landmark plaque, now sells Propane and propane accessories. I’m honestly surprised that no KKK members live here. I guess my diverse neighborhood kicked them out at some point.

@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын

Congrats, Tony 'One User' Goldmark, you earned it!

@keelzforreelz7526 3 жыл бұрын

Omg that camera flash when he threw Brer Rabbit into the briar patch 😂😂😂. They really tried to make that moment a bigger deal than what it actually was in the film lol.

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

Well there really weren't any other parts of ths movie for a big log flume drop to take place.

@SonofMrPeanut 3 жыл бұрын

11:29 The internet broke Dreamfinder's brain.

@anone.mousse674 3 жыл бұрын

Above our heads Just like a vulture A bloody war Raged over culture Before your eyes The standards double fast Only care if Your word's the last!

@SonofMrPeanut 3 жыл бұрын

@@anone.mousse674🎶 EXCRUCIATION! EXCRUTIATION! 🎶

@anone.mousse674 2 жыл бұрын

Attraction Name Confirmed!! "Tiana's Bayou Adventure."

@garfieldthecat927 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I'll miss Splash Mountain. Despite how much good memories I've had on that ride, I think I've ridden it enough to let go of it without feeling sad. I'm happy for the time we did have with it. Had the theming been changed to literally any other movie I'd be sad to see it go. Princess and the Frog is one of my favorite Disney movies and I was sad to see it get shafted for as long as it has. I was glad it had a presence in a few shows, but I always thought it was one of those scrappy cult classic Disney movies that'd only be referenced a few times, but giving Princess and the Frog their own E-Ticket is really going to boost the IP's worth in the eyes of Disney. Splash Mountain always gets long lines no matter what time of day so giving one of my favorite movies such valuable real estate is extremely lucky. I hope Laughing Place gets rethemed to the 'Other Side'. A physical animatronic interacting with his own shadow would be fun. Letting the projected shadow interact with physical props would be great. I hope Ray and Evangeline are in the finale as stars shining over where the steamboat is Splash. I love the idea of getting Tony Baxter and the Mickey's Runaway Railway director to work together on this ride, it's like the past and future of the company coming together to create another great ride that'll no doubt be in the parks for a long time.

@admechskitarii6967 3 жыл бұрын

I was already on board with the retheme, but realizing how utterly perfectly Friends on the Other Side would fit the ride now somehow makes me want it even more Edit: I somehow forgot Dig a little Deeper was a thing and now I want this retheme even more than even more

@trashymc4564 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy idea time. Song of the south legit seems like it would benefit the most from whole "live action remake" beige disney is doing. Disney gets to keep zippidy do da and gain all the brownie points from "righting a past wrong".

@admechskitarii6967 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how feasible given how much baggage that movie already has, but I see your point

@trashymc4564 3 жыл бұрын

@@admechskitarii6967 if not a direct remake possibly a side-make or something. Similar to the Pete's dragon remake, dramatically different but covering the same ground. Though I also see what you mean about baggage. If they do anything it would need to over shadow or completely mis direct people away from the orginal movie.

@tkayube 3 жыл бұрын

@@trashymc4564 I think the best thing to do would be to cut Uncle Remus out and just do a Br'er Rabbit movie, sticking mainly to the original folktales themselves and not what Joel Chandler Harris did with them.

@trashymc4564 3 жыл бұрын

@@tkayube honestly that sounds like the best way to handle it. But the time for doing that has long sense past. The best point that could have happend is when splash mountain first happened, but due to it being made while walt was around you would probably get a mass amount of complaints about "altering walts history" or something.

@casihamilton3773 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, you're the one who brought me around on this issue by reminding me what great music would be used. I was always a big fan of Splash Mountain for purely nostalgic reasons. It's the only ride I really remembered from my childhood trip and when I went as an adult it was at the top of my to do list and I had a great time. I didn't look deeper than that. When this all started I asked for opinions from friends with more insight into it, namely POC on my friends list to see if my opinion needed adjusting. In the end, I decided yes I agreed it needed the retheme, but I was still sad to see it go. Until you posted about Friends on the Other Side. I have been 100% on board ever since.

@Meowanaise 3 жыл бұрын

I don't get the outrage for the change. It's not the first nor the last ride/area Disney will update as time marches on. And frankly, Princess and the Frog feels like the perfect thing to retheme it on. Not only does it transform the ride as one of the few reminders of a movie Disney regrets being in their stable of films for its racism into one that empowers black people. The bayou setting just makes sense for a water themed ride.

@JSwag_Reviews Жыл бұрын

Well Disneyland will be making a huge mistake look I understand it’s just a ride but people really do have a heart for splash especially people who have informed themselves on the good stuff that “Song of the South,” offers.

@JonsMovies104 3 жыл бұрын

Remember when they wanted to save Tower of Terror with a petition but didn’t work? Now after what’s been happening fans started a petition to change Splash Mountain to Princess and the Frog and it’s actually happening now they wanna save Splash Mountain with a petition again. You people can’t change your mind can you?

@HBarnill 3 жыл бұрын

I’m old enough to remember the complaints against ToW in DCA.

@Emike-nc9ew 3 жыл бұрын

Both were for the better...for the most part...

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

@Nikola Leviathan I mean, it's easy to say that now because Splash Mountain is what you're used to. But who knows? The new ride might be even better. Sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.

@clarkmorgan4199 3 жыл бұрын

And now they're petitioning to Bring back the Disneyland PeopleMover,@@TonyGoldmark Because we miss the PeopleMover.

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

@@clarkmorgan4199 sweet! hope that petition succeeds!

@lom7487 3 жыл бұрын

My take is that the brer characters and their story (that’s told through the ride), due to Disney’s suppression of SOTS, kinda evolved past SOTS and it almost seemed like they became park-based IPs like Figment, the Country Bears, or the Hatbox ghost. They were the characters from Splash Mountain and Critter Country first, then characters from SOTS second. Also the ride is just... so good. It’s fun. I love the music from it so much and its presence at all will be probably be ripped from the parks :( So i will be sad to see characters almost exclusively now associated with the parks go away, but Princess and the Frog is my favorite Disney movie so I’m glad to see it get rep in the parks as well

@BugsyFoga 3 жыл бұрын

Something tells me this change is gonna get a similar response to the time The Twilight tower of terror was replaced with The Guardians Mission: Breakout (which i hope it isn't entirely the case)

@ForrestFox626 3 жыл бұрын

Some fans can be way too petty.

@SRHunt85 3 жыл бұрын

Disney did such a good job hiding song of the south that when I was a little kid, I found a picture book that was a written version of one of the segments (I almost wanna say it was the baby *shudder*) and I thought it was a splash mountain book. Regardless, I’m 100% down for SM’s retheming. At least kids know who Tiana is.

@jenniferschillig3768 3 жыл бұрын

Not too long ago, in a used bookstore, I came across a Disney picture book from the seventies that retold the story of Br'er Rabbit and the tar baby. Only someone at the Disney picture book division must've gotten wise, because in this version, it wasn't a tar baby but a stuffed rabbit coated in sticky glue!

@Teag_Brohman15 3 жыл бұрын

all that's left now is for half of Critter Country to turn into Gravity Falls (come on now, you people know you want it)

@juliagoodwin9510 3 жыл бұрын

Yeeesss...

@illusionsmage 3 жыл бұрын

I mean thematically it wouldn’t work but...... GRAVITY FALLS DARK RIDE YES! BRING ON THE NEW MUSEUM OF THE WEIRD!

@SuperNova-mp5zp 3 жыл бұрын

But has Disney ever done a ride for a TV show. I don't think so I've been waiting years for a phineas and ferb Rollercoaster thrill like ride XD. (Like that will ever happen) (probs in epcot ala test track with some education stuff on friction and inertia or something XD)

@illusionsmage 3 жыл бұрын

Super Nova1486 Actually yes. There's Gadget's Go-Coaster in Toon Town which is for the Rescue Rangers, and they did a retheme of the Motorboats to gummy bears. And that was all following Disney Afternoon Avenue, a retheme of small world mall to promote the Disney afternoon program block.

@SuperNova-mp5zp 3 жыл бұрын

@@illusionsmage Oh well never mind then cool! thanks for the cool theme park trivia! I wish they would do it again then especially for shows like Phineas and Ferb and gravity falls that have either been long-lasting or had in impact. I sort of get why they might not do it (due to shows not being as memorable,"classic", or well known in the long run like a movie) but there are most def exceptions.

@becuaseimbored3481 3 жыл бұрын

29:44 Michael Eisner in this picture looks like a soulless husk being puppeteered by mickey

@JohnPannozzi 3 жыл бұрын

40:50 Actually, the animated segments from Song of the South were included as extras on the DVD and Blu-ray of Alice in Wonderland, so maybe that's what that family was thinking of.

@joeymartinez5814 3 жыл бұрын

31:02-31:41-Actually, another big reason as to why Eisner gave to okay to build Splash Mountain was because, while Song of the South was being surrounded with controversy, praise was still given to the animated portions of the movie (even among those who hated the film), which further excited the Disney Imagineers.

@samuelazzaro 3 жыл бұрын

7:40.....man the Emperor's New Grove deserved a ride

@Alejandroigarabide 3 жыл бұрын

The gag before the credits was AWESOME!!!!!

@RyswagPlays 3 жыл бұрын

I'm fine with this as long as the ride itself isn't changed beyond a "repair" to make it smoother. There's so many cool things they could add with the new Princess and the Frog theme and I just hope they don't cheap out on it.

@Emplordxiii 3 жыл бұрын

@ 40:47 I can see how they came to that conclusion: one of the DVDs of Alice in Wonderland had the animated segments of Song of the South as a bonus feature.

@nightwolfMKT 3 жыл бұрын

I want to see Princess and the Frog-themed splash mountain, there's a lot of cool stuff they could do with the swamp theme and music Honestly I didn't even know that Splash Mountain was based on something, I thought it was just a big ride whose thing was being a huge landmark like Space Mountain.

@anone.mousse674 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just excited at the idea of Keith David in a Disney Attraction.

@admechskitarii6967 3 жыл бұрын

Anon E. Mousse keith David is the most perfect being on this planet

@kylemorello4787 3 жыл бұрын

@@anone.mousse674 it just occurred to me, this movie includes a scene of Goliath crushing Darkwing Duck! A Disney Afternoon fan's nightmare!

@BostonMBrand 3 жыл бұрын

The possibilities are endless. Dig a little deeper could be the finale to the ride, they could reuse a lot of the older animatronics (not that I don’t want new ones (I do!), but the animals and a lot of the other character models could fit well to the existing skeletons), and the drop having friends on the other side. Oof so many good things to come.

@Falxifer95 3 жыл бұрын

Reminder that unless you're a Disney turbo nerd, a dark ride enthusiast or, obviously a contrarian thunderchud who never gave a shit about Disney theme park rides until Twitter reminded him to be offended at something involving Disney, no one rode Splash Mountain for the dark ride aspect, nor did they knew or care to know it was a Song of the South themed ride.

@JazzyTyfighter 3 жыл бұрын

A part of me will miss the Splash Mountain music, but if we get better animatronics, better projections, more songs, and Dr. Facilier, I will definitely prefer this retheme.

@nth460 3 жыл бұрын

Just discovered your channel, and MAN, you are criminally underrated!!! I don't usually watch long-form content but I've been watching one after the other of your videos. These are so well written and performed and are so consistently quality all the way through. Hope you keep up the great stuff my friend!!

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I've kinda left videos behind for now, and I'm devoting most of my attention to my weekly podcast, check it out! escapefromvaultdisney.libsyn.com/

@nth460 3 жыл бұрын

@@TonyGoldmark awesome! Will check it out later today

@cartooncaleb24 3 жыл бұрын

12:18 - 12:45 is an accurate representation of how I feel whenever I go on Facebook

@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@budlombardi8893 3 жыл бұрын

Splash Mountain being made in the 80s is my favorite corporate twist since Ouija Boards being invented by Hasbro

@colorlesscanvas1151 3 жыл бұрын

I used to watch song of the south when I was younger the only thing I remember is zip-a-dee doo dah. Actually I think I just kept rewinding that part.

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

Same here! I think Zip-a-dee-doo-dah is the only interesting or good thing to come out of that movie. Except for maybe splash mountain itself.

@CharlesMoss091 2 жыл бұрын

2:00 Well, that aged like fine wine *sarcasm mode*

@TonyGoldmark 2 жыл бұрын

....yeaaaaaah, sorry about that.

@KilamajaroKen 3 жыл бұрын

Splash Mountain has need a good full deep refurbishment for the last decade. You can only repair 40 year-old animatronics for so long before it would just be cheaper to replace it all.

@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын

Also, Princess and the Frog and Waterslides make sense.

@sabrinamiller3671 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows the REAL reason they're closing this thing is because of that little incident with animatronic Brer Fox threatening to marry some poor guy's dad.

@bonkman64 3 жыл бұрын

Did that happen or is that a joke?

@sabrinamiller3671 3 жыл бұрын

@@bonkman64 It's a creepypasta.

@Spiderman-wt8hb 3 жыл бұрын

That Wild clip probably made me more uncomfortable than any horror film I’ve ever seen. Also, are you considering moving one movie later to a podcast like state of the parks? (You know, whenever we can go see a movie again)

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, Escape From Vault Disney kinda already IS One Movie Later in podcast form, but with older movies and TV shows.

@waverod9275 3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried his "Escape from Vault Disney" podcast?

@Spiderman-wt8hb 3 жыл бұрын

Tony Goldmark Fair enough, I guess there probably aren’t enough movies yearly with theme park connections to devote the time to either videos or podcasts. Been following the podcast since it started and love it. You make consistent great content.

@adamgrunther1367 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Chadwick Boseman.

@jedisquidward 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought Princess and the Frog screamed for a ride. It had a great stylized world and just makes so much sense. The only things good about Song of the South are the technology of the Animation blending and the Uncle Remus performance. I don't even think it should be looked at politically. Princess and the Frog is just flat out much better and well known than Song of the South. Hell, a lot of people don't even know Splash Mountain is based on Song of the South, that's how rich that world is.

@Keopro 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, did anyone else see that yellow hat go flying in the Splash Mountain ad at 32:46? "Take a ride on Splash Mountain so we can get your money and your belongings!"

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

I think that was a balloon

@Keopro 3 жыл бұрын

@@TonyGoldmark Possible but I'm seeing a potential brim as it turns. In either case, I'm retroactively misremembering that as the slogan for the ride to forget the fact that the song from the other ad is on loop in my head.

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

@@Keopro Huh. Upon closer inspection, you're right. It was a hat. Well, that's what the lost and found is for.

@juliagoodwin9510 3 жыл бұрын

Years ago when my family went to visit my relatives in California, we went to Disneyland. I seem to remember my cousins finding a sword from the Pirates of the Carribean gift shop just floating in the water... hey, free sword!

@coredumperror 3 жыл бұрын

"The local bear sheriff, or "beariff" if you will." Thank you so much for making that stupid word pun. I love it.

@PaintSplashProductions 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I don’t go on Twitter

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

Can't say I blame you.

@nonspiderweb 3 жыл бұрын

That "Are You Ready!?" dub over the climb was EXCELLENT! I agree with Jake Peralta it gave me literal chills!

@dark12794 2 жыл бұрын

20:05 had me about dying, that is underratedly horrifying and hilarious.

@Wintermute01001 3 жыл бұрын

26:30 Incidentally, Murderous Bear Cops is the name of my Whip Warriors tribute band

@Danny-qc8fv 3 жыл бұрын

Always happy to see you make...well, whatever you want! Great video, Tony. Been loving the podcast!

@DeanIrvine 3 жыл бұрын

The ride needs changed badly, and personally I’m looking forward to seeing what they can do with the princess and the frog theming, I’m just hoping for actual animatronics and not face projections. And song wise, the only thing I’ll miss is people reaction when they think a frog has asked them to show him there balls.

@SoloJona 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, this has been one of your best (and I think most important) videos up to date

@ThatEccentricguy 3 жыл бұрын

Does anybody have a connection to song of the south that is as strong as a young child finally seeing themselves as a princess

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally doubt it. I don’t think anybody sees themselves in SotS the way kids see themselves as princesses or pirates.

@FireBlastStudios 3 жыл бұрын

I for one look forward to one day riding "Princess Tiana's Splash Mountain Mardi Gras Bayou Adventure"

@lakewoodninja 3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing rumors from like year or two after the movie came out that splash mountain was going to changed.

@thecinematicmind 2 жыл бұрын

James Baskett is the only actor to technically win any Oscar for a voice performance. 94 years and only one actor.

@TonyGoldmark 2 жыл бұрын

And it wasn't even JUST for a voice performance, he also physically played Uncle Remus.

@thecinematicmind 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyGoldmark That’s why I said technically because of James Baskett’s performance as Uncle Remus making this clear.

@thecinematicmind 2 жыл бұрын

@@TonyGoldmark What I’m fascinated as I’m reading the history of the production. I keep thinking about the role of the voice actor in narration, voice acting and now motion capture and despite the significance of radio, TV and video games in voice acting with how prominent it is. In cinema, it never officially gets recognised in acclaim.

@raphaelmarquez9650 3 жыл бұрын

The Jurassic World retheme also somehow made the ride inferior to the original version from both a technological and storytelling perspective, so we can safely assume that the Princess & the Frog retheme will make the ride superior to the Song of the South theming in both categories.

@colorlesscanvas1151 3 жыл бұрын

Princess and the frog fits it so well! Instead of those awful bramble vines imagine beautiful bayou trees as you splash down.

@TheLostBoysGirls 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree with you more.

@anneofgreengables1367 Ай бұрын

Well…missed opportunity 🤦🏻‍♀️

@IWillBeHers 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting on tenterhooks for the Splash Mountain rap to show up and was not disappointed. I remember that fondly from the Disneyland Fun Sing-a-Long video (put the Sing-a-Longs on Disney Plus you cowards. Except maybe the Song of the South one).

@kellswitch 3 жыл бұрын

There may be a wait for your videos, but they are always worth it.

@the-aspiring-creator4249 3 жыл бұрын

This was a very well done, thoughtful and measured look at a subject like this. Really don't have much to say other than that, this was really damn good. As for the stuff about the ride in question... I was fine with this change from the beginning. I mean even when setting aside all the oddities of the fact that this was a ride based on a movie that Disney themselves has deemed too insensitive to even think about rereleasing in the US, I never saw any reason why they should keep an attraction based on something that is so irrelevant and I say this as someone who really does love the original attraction. But... if given the choice between hearing "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" the hundredth time and riding on something based on one of my favorite Disney movies which has the possibility of giving me the chance to hear "Friends on the Other Side"? I mean... goddamn it I know exactly what I'd choose.

@wstine79 3 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see the video. Tony's videos are a rare treat.

@mariomouse8265 Жыл бұрын

I believe that this video was Tony’s last attempt at any video format, before he dedicated his full time to Escape from Vault Disney It’s funny because it released the exact same day that I had to take a gap year and return to my home country because of COVID-19

@ForrestFox626 Ай бұрын

To be fair, running a podcast isn't exactly a small project

@ronjoe17 3 жыл бұрын

Always great to see a new video from you, Tony. Awesome work as always

@gozerthegozarian9500 3 жыл бұрын

"..where criticism means cancelling and cancelling means nothing at all!" XD Tony, I love you!

@westheriault3797 3 жыл бұрын

I am still obsessed with the return of the *ding* "toldja!" Bit. Like yesss a reference to my favorite video that also continues the point you're making? Astounding

@TonyGoldmark 3 жыл бұрын

It was too perfect.

@Suburbansanity 3 жыл бұрын

great video as per usual! thanks again for the quality content

@jaelynn6087 3 жыл бұрын

this video was amazing, and this was the first person who i saw had an actual educated take on this. thank you!

@RaccoonRevolution 3 жыл бұрын

I fully admit I was waiting for the Ric Ocasek clip during the Zip A Dee Doo Dah supercut. You did not disappoint.

@cyanmanta 5 ай бұрын

I'll tell you a big reason the Florida parks reopened earlier: the DVC. Pandemic or not, Vacation Club members either use their points or they lose their points. It's also why WDW recovered so quickly after the 9/11 travel drought compared to Univeral Orlando.

@nataliekmaguire 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, it's so great to have you back, and the full beard looks great on you! Amidst all the very heavy insanity these past 6 months, I've really missed the escapism of listening to you lose your mind over Disney.

@bullmonty764 Ай бұрын

19:41 That hits the nail on the head with my thoughts on pretty much all of the controversial characters in classic Disney movies. I can see where people are coming from when they say that characters like The Crows, Tiger Lily, and even the cast of Aladdin are problematic, but I try to look at the bigger picture behind them. As a result, I can see that they have some (not a lot, mind you, but some) positive attributes to them. Tiger Lily has an actual personality and a more appealing design than the rest of the Native Americans (and even then, they trounce the Lost Boys in combat and were even *more* offensive in the original stories). The cast of Aladdin are primarily likeable, heroic portrayals of Middle Eastern people at a time when you didn’t see that like, at all (and not even too often now, at least from what I can tell). And the crows are not only among the few characters who actively support Dumbo’s plight, but are based on black entertainers of the time and are predominantly voiced by an actual black choir. The only exception is their leader, whose real name, by the way, isn’t even Jim - he’s actually named Dandy, a name which began being used in the *1950s.* Again, these characters are still overall wrong both then and now. So I sympathize with those who disagree with me, and I’m aware that I’m in the minority. But I also believe that there should be a discussion about this sort of thing, and I think that discussion should include somewhat more open-minded people like me. By the way, I’m aware that I’m going to Hell for expressing these flaming hot takes, so don’t bother pointing that out 😂

@cadet1313 3 жыл бұрын

Love your work Tony, thank you so much for this stuff.

@HBarnill 3 жыл бұрын

I despise cancel culture but when a bigot tries to cry out about it, don’t take it seriously. They’re the ones that are far more likely to cancel others. They poison the conversation. You’re either for cancel culture or you’re not. I don’t like hypocrites. And no, I don’t believe this change is an example of it and yes, I do believe in consequences for bad behavior. Context and nuance always matters.

@katherinealvarez9216 3 жыл бұрын

F. N. Lorter amen. God I need to get out of tumblr. Nuance and context do not exist there.

@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@adamdavis1648 3 жыл бұрын

@@katherinealvarez9216 Nuance and context are pretty rare online in general.

@katherinealvarez9216 3 жыл бұрын

@@adamdavis1648 true

@maikeruasmr8591 3 жыл бұрын

I believe in rehabilitation is better to deter bad behaviour. It's usually a result of an internal problem

@Emike-nc9ew 3 жыл бұрын

¡OH NO! briar patch has been crushed....

@wereedbooks 3 жыл бұрын

Laughed so many times watching this and even thought about some things a little bit, too! Hope you are doing well Mr. Goldmark. Looking forward to the next one (also your twitter name made me cackle hahaha)