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Hornady usually loads all their 9mm defensive JHP ammo pretty weak The Critical defense/Duty FTX projectiles and all of their XTP Projectiles offerings. If you want good Hornady handgun ammo get it loaded by any company other than Hornady itself

@@djangofreeman9382 I don't carry any Hornady ammo especially not in 9mm or 45. I just want to see how it compares in tools tests.

​@djangofreeman9382 After talking to Hornady, these bullets are not xtp rounds. The jackets are thicker on the duty than on the defense.

Critical defense is for nubies

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I tested some large caliber critical doodie while i watched this...my results varied...the velocity and expansion were excellent though...

I came in here to post this. I am defeated. 😂

Butt head was here

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Good test! 45 takes it for sure! Tools man you are a winner! A beacon for those of us who follow you!

I carry that load every day of my life. They got a sweet spot with the 135 grain bullet. It's so dang consistent.

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@@timrobinson6573My thoughts exactly! Plenty of scenarios where a barrier blind bullet could make the difference in a gun fight. Personally I prefer 9mm NATO +p ball ammo in my carry guns or this load the critical duty +p.

Ball ammo for self defense? Why would you want a disadvantage

I've heard about what timrobinson6573 is stating. After the initial shot is fired the attackers will oftentimes run away or take cover and continue their assault from that position. This hints at the value of using a bullet with good stopping power(especially for the first rounds) to take them out of the fight ASAP. Some people get the notion that stopping power is unimportant because they can just fire as many rounds as they have in their magazine. Though if the bad guy can still move after that first shot, he is likely to get off the X. That first shot may be your best opportunity to avoid a long-drawn-out gunfight against someone hiding behind cover.

@@HWG-wm8ld How is that a disadvantage? 2 holes are better than 1. Imagine being stabbed with a pencil, now imagine being stabbed by the same pencil from the front of your chest and the back of your chest. Which one do think does more damage? I guarantee you will bleed out much faster with 2 stab wounds over 1. The whole expanding bullets are overrated and under penetrate. 9mm is a very weak caliber as it is. Also to add to that if caliber doesn’t matter ie… 9, .40 .45 than why does it “need” to expand? Shot placement matters and you shouldn’t be shooting at anything or anyone with a bystander behind your target anyway so hollow points are moot. I carry with what I train with. Most people never train with their +p HST hollow points.

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Well I'm disabled. I can't do the .45

I love 45 but the 9mm does beat it in a lot of other ways, mostly in availability I'd say. However, I don't really believe that either one is more deadly than the other. Call me crazy all you want. People have eaten up 45s like they're nothing, people have tanked through 9mm like they're nothing, yet some have succumbed to only a few rounds of .22 or .380. I'd say shot placement is indeed critical for duty (hehe), which truly matters over caliber. If someone is accurate with a .22 or a .380, but inaccurate with any larger caliber, then that's perfectly fine as long as they hit what they're shooting. If we really want to talk about ease of shooting here, the 5.7x28 would be best for recoil sensitive people and disabled people, and it's accurate. Myself, I carry a 1911 in 45 because it's just a classic carry. I used to carry a Beretta 92fs in 9mm, then a single action 357 magnum, but switched to my 45. My first handgun I ever shot as a child was a Ruger 1911 in 45, and I remember loving that gun and the recoil wasn't bad. I have great hand strength so it doesn't matter to me today. However, I'd be comfortable carrying a .22 just as much (I actually carry a naa. 22 magnum most days in a vest pocket). But at the end of the day, we can all agree that training *is* paramount, and caliber size won't matter if you can't hit the broad side of Lizzo. Stay safe and God bless

Head shots trump all others and rifles are vastly superior to handguns. Still the size of the hole a bullet makes is tops for handguns as the bigger the hole in a blood vessel or heart, the faster is the blood loss which means the aggressor will stop fighting quicker.@@YoushouldloveyourselfNOW1738

lol no this shows how comparable they are. 45 loads seem much more finicky about barrel length and weight too, seen some of his tests that were very underwhelming. i want to like 45 its cool. even 40 is very impressive in his tests sometimes much more-so than 9 or 45. but 9mm hits well above it's weight, many of these good loads are ridiculous with the 9 and it is always going to have more capacity and likely more control. i agree the 45 was devastating and impressive but the 9 was very good as well. this is a load i want in 45 for sure, much better than critical duty which was very different in different tests depending on the barrel length. 45 seems to need more speed than people think to do anything special.

@@YoushouldloveyourselfNOW1738 I remember reading about a Police Woman who was shoot to death when she opened a door in a raid and the thug was standing there holding a small revolver chambered in 38 Special. He shoved the gun into her left breast and pulled the trigger. She was dead before she hit the ground.. Then I remembered my Uncle telling me in 1959 when I was 10, how a Japs head exploded when my Uncle shot him with a .45acp fmj bullet at close range. I think folks have not realized how effective handgun bullets can be a very close range. It is hardly ever mentioned in ammo discussions.

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Me too. I had some Sig ammo but noticed the projectile pushing back into the casing just from chambering. I went to the CD 5 years ago.

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Thank you sir. The big guy hit hard.💥🥊💥

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They did their duty!😎👊

Appreciate that. I was very happy that these don't muffle the gunshots. If I use the on-board camera mic, it does.

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Yessir. I was happy to see em moving nicely.😎👊

Better penetration works better.

Thank you sir. I gotta get some carbine stuff done.

Excellent test as usual. Both the 9MM and 45acp did exactly what they were designed to do. I just joined the members list a few days ago and I am thoroughly impressed with your test and format as such. Just glad to be able to help support my new favorite KZfaq shooting channel. Keep up the outstanding work, my friend 👏

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Where and why do you shoot defense round to know if it performs better? I've had boxes of defense rounds for years.. no need to use them in a situation.

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It should already be, but some folks cant handle the hat!😉

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Thank you sir. Hornady loves their red plugs.😆

I believe the intent of the plug is to keep the hollowpoint from getting clogged and not expanding.

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Thank you sir. Appreciate you!😎👊

@@ToolsandTargets I appreciate the work and the honesty you deliver in every video. I no longer buy defensive ammo until I see you test it.

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Thank you sir. Been raining here all day.😆

Seems like all the Critical Duty always has been expensive in the smaller boxes.

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