The reason for people forgetting is RETCON in Torchwood season 1 they explain all this. And as seen here all evidence of the word Torchwood has been deleted. Why not images? Information in general, remember in the first episode where the information on Torchwood was deleted by Yanto?

I was trying to figure out where he got that from. It seems like if that was the case, they would have showed a lot of people with mysterious injuries.

That was definitely a unique hypothesis.

Which is annoying, as they say that's him from 1939, when it's actually from the 1941. Let alone that someone was taking a picture can't fit into the episode.

@@mr.scarlo2234 Dude. The photo is from the empty child from a production pov. It's not actually meant to be him from that episode. If that annoys you then WOW

Yeah i loved Miracle Day, the conclusion is a bit meh, but everything the series explores is great.

Me too. I prefer Children of Earth as an overall story because Miracle Day doesn't quite wrap itself up as well. I suspect they decided to run with it because it was too good of an idea not to use and when else would they get the chance to tell this kind of a story in this way. It starts out and all you think about is how nobody can die but then you begin to wonder what the domino effects might be. Nobody dies. Population can only go up. Prisons become not only overcrowded but a life sentence becomes infinite. Resources can't hope to keep up. Then what? It creates so much to think about.

I mean SCP End of Death did the same thing

If you watch Everything Changes, that was what Suzie"s intentions were if Jack didn't find out.

@@theintelligenceagency3638 Pretty sure End of Death was made after this, though.

mornnx01 only in the UK but it was a Stars production that aired on Stars in America

Yeah, season one had a few terrible or forgettable episodes and only a few good ones. The rest were in the middle. This is why I am not sure if I would count 1 or 4 as the worst season. Considering the drastically different styles, they are difficult to compare. Either way, 2 is still my favorite season...

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. I’ve heard people say seasons 1&2 were the only good seasons and others say only 3&4. I think all the seasons have their merits.

that i think was a pretty dumb decision on moffats part. But I like to think EVERYTHING went back to normal in the series finale. Including all the events that were "erased"

Exactly. The hate for it is bandwagon, boring hate. If people don't like this series, why are they spending their time watching people react to it?

Dylan C - "is bandwagon, boring hate" Or you could not be so dismissive of any reaction to TW:MD that is negative.

Or I could continue to believe that the majority of hate for Miracle Day is by people that didn't give it a proper chance, and can't take change :D xxx

I think the majority of fans dislike Miracle Day for genuine reasons. Many had high expectations after the last series which is understandable and this simply means that Miracle Day didn't meet a majority of the fans' standards or expectations. It's fine if people like it (we're all different after all) but Miracle Day is expected to get criticised (and ended up getting panned) because of its Americanization and drastic alteration of what the series was which I think is justified. I mean it's no surprise that people were way more satisfied with Big Finish than Miracle Day.

I was way more satisfied with MD, but then I don't enjoy Big Finish at all. Also, I'm fine with people disliking Miracle Day for being disappointing compared to COE, but there are so many people that say it's awful and not even worth watching, which is simply not true. Just because it's not AS good doesn't mean it's terrible.

It is true tho like we have MI5 people all over the place but if I met one of them I’d be genuinely surprised and fascinated and also confused

It's set after series 5 of DW so would they even remember?

Bobzilla456 yeh everyone still remembers, but I’m pretty sure it was aired in the gap between the end of time and doctor who series 5 starting. There’s a certain moment in a certain episode long down the line of doctor who which pretty much confirms that certain events didn’t really alter anything substantially and that everyone still remembers previous alien invasions.

Miracle Day was aired between A Good Man Goes to War and Let's Kill Hitler. I don't think they do remember all the previous invasions (although of cause it is not exact and was never entirely explained).

I don't hate this as much as others do, but why is this your favorite?

Not as 'fun' as "Children of Earth" ??

i mostly meant the first two seasons or doctor who. like Miracle Day is not a fun show, but it's damn good

I'm not completely sure why it's my favorite I just know I like watching it the most. I think it may be because I love Jack's story in it and I love his vulnerability. Like Captain Jack Harkness is one of my all time favorite fictional characters and to get to see more of his past and to see him stripped of what made him such stand out character and see what is left when knows he can actually die. And a time when basically everyone he loves is dead or beyond reach with the single exception of Gwen Cooper...who has moved on and has her own life now. I just find it extremely fascinating and compelling

"i mostly meant the first two seasons or doctor who" Ah OK, that makes more sense to me. "Children of Earth" is pretty bleak I think so you had me wondering what 'fun' meant to you ;).

SuperNerdGavin no because there is too much evidence

No, you didn't hear it correctly. "We have another episode of Torchwood next week..."

Great video keep going your great!

Dannie Tate Aliens Among Us is so much better than Miracle Day and a real return to form for Torchwood. Plus i love Mr Colchester

Zak Rosenfeld Mr. Colchester and Orr are 100% my favorites on the new Torchwood team. I hope they listen to it, but Miracle Day has a tendency to put people off.

Dannie Tate Mr Colchester is the best character since Owen Harper, he's pretty much the badass dad of the team, plus Yvonne has been a fantastic addition love her efficiency approach. Orr is great and i can't wait for more development. And i really can't wait for S6 which was announced a few days ago

Zak Rosenfeld Neither can I. I want to know who the Sorvixs' God is.

Dannie Tate Something tells me that their God is connected to Billis Manger somehow considering the events of "A Kill To A View".... Or maybe I'm just hoping that cause i want more of him

Christian MH *All great shows ever are american*.....ok then

Luke Evans Neither this show nor Doctor Who is American. Black Mirror was originally British. Sherlock was British (the first two seasons are great).

Luke Evans A lot of US shows are great but there is such a thing as Americanisation.

I'm curious, what about it being Americanized made it boring for you? Granted, I'm American and I'm used to this style of television, but I tend to find the crazy action gives it higher stakes

Kayley Hodson I think it’s just because there’s such an over saturation of those kinds of shows. Even when Torchwood was terrible it still had a distinctive tone and style, and Children of Earth managed to be large scale and cinematic without it. The explosions, the American actors and settings, Gwen having the makeup of a movie star. It all feels a touch obnoxious and very much not Torchwood. It’s just that really good, high profile British TV with international appeal (especially set in Wales) is hard to come by, and the Americanisation of this show also coincided with a drop in writing quality, so the two are associated. Also, Torchwood is obviously linked to Doctor Who, literally the most British thing on TV. The Americanisation of that universe in any way is kind of insulting. Thanks for asking, hope I didn’t offend in any way!

It just doesn't feel canon to me tbh as it's so different

Henry in NorCal yess, they literally should’ve just done that for series 4

honestly miracle day is my favorite series because of how it just encapsulates you into the story and makes all the tension feel real

Henry in NorCal they actually returned to Cardiff for series 5 and 6, although Mickey and Martha didn’t appear