Tory Wipeout: What Happens Next?

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20 күн бұрын

How radical will Starmer’s Labour be in government? Would a change of the voting system only further strengthen the far right?
In the first episode of Keir Starmer’s premiership, Rory and Alastair answer all these questions and more.
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@schofield4836 19 күн бұрын

Loved the bit where Alaister got fed up of Nadine, turned to Rory and said “say something grown up, Rory” and Rory came in with his beautiful calm articulate example of a true gentleman. Love watching Rory handle people with kindness and reason and when he diffuses them, he does it with no ego so makes them feel safe

@DaboooogA 19 күн бұрын

Calm, Articulate yet unelectable.

@josyms7849 19 күн бұрын

What time was this?

@schofield4836 19 күн бұрын

@@DaboooogA oh bah humbug to you. Why take a nice comment and taint it with something cynical? You don’t need to do that

@schofield4836 19 күн бұрын

@@josyms7849 not sure

@JelMain 19 күн бұрын

@@DaboooogA Not according to many, but more importantly, having been at his side when Boris did the dirty on the lot of us, completely demoralised about politics and no longer interested. And no, Rory, the low turnout was NOT about apathy, but the same alienation you feel from the whole system. Representative Democracy has definitively failed, because the Parties no longer represent anything other than themselves. You treat the electorate as vote fodder, presume we'll follow blindly - we won't - and don't listen. The only solution is to return the final say in legislation from the monarch to the people, in an effective form of Direct Democracy, a ratification referendum instead of Royal Assent. Does the electorate actually support each Bill completed this week? Yes/No.

@jonathanward7320 19 күн бұрын

Alastair and Rory done the Rest of Politics community proud on Channel 4 last night. Well done 👍🏻

@paulc1553 19 күн бұрын

Agreed!

@samueljweston 19 күн бұрын

Agree. Unfortunately the way Channel 4 “organised” the coverage was a disaster.

@sunseeker9581 19 күн бұрын

@@samueljweston i liked it more of a debate format. Campbell couldnt admit that Starmer hadnt really grown his vote share. Just wanted to push a labour line of a wins a win

@davidhollins870 19 күн бұрын

Nads was on the bottle.

@Maz3040 19 күн бұрын

Agreed sad they had to content with Doris

@Joker-yw9hl 19 күн бұрын

Nadine Dorries was insufferable last night. The type of woman to make the whole room uncomfortable and relieved when she leaves

@ProphetAndLoss 19 күн бұрын

She was acting like a rude and shouty drunk. I stopped watching for a while and when I switched back she had gone on "a break" which lasted all night thankfully.

@rolandrothwell4840 19 күн бұрын

Actually (apart from an unhealthy obsession and adulation of Johnson) Nadine has some good insight into the reasons why the Conservatives have collapsed. And she's loyal to the Conservative party. She'll never defect to Reform despite her anger at not getting a peerage. 😂 she hates Campbell - its personal

@yasminanjum3310 19 күн бұрын

@@Joker-yw9hl She made stupid allegations against others & she was told to stop lying... She just sounded ridiculous...& still very pro Johnson. I was glad to see the back of her...

@veeday1146 19 күн бұрын

@@yasminanjum3310 She reminded this oldie of another past oldie and writer of unreadable books, dear saccharine Barbara Cartland. Always dressed in pink with a candy floss air about her, it was like looking into the future for a naff Nadine. Always after the money and vulgar with it. She certainly lowered the tone of what could have been the most thoughtful and serious coverage of a momentous occasion.

@markstv40 19 күн бұрын

She reminds me of that Glenn Close character when it comes to Johnson, just hope Johnson’s kids never decide to keep rabbits

@scottsaunders5087 19 күн бұрын

Lizz truss and Reece mogg gone literally made my year 🙏🏻

@tonyharpur8383 19 күн бұрын

👏👍😜

@jimmyjohnstone5878 19 күн бұрын

@@tonyharpur8383especially him. I expected her to lose but it was great news to hear of his demise too. Cannot stand him.

@tonyharpur8383 19 күн бұрын

@@jimmyjohnstone5878 we are not alone in that sentiment! 🙂

@viewfinder914 19 күн бұрын

And it's only July!

@FionaJane-vc2tw 19 күн бұрын

Plus Fabricant, Baker and Shapps. Beautiful.

@jumpingalaxies951 19 күн бұрын

I don't say this flippantly, you two should be very proud of the quality you're bringing to public discourse. Watching the scenes today, tears in my eyes, 14 years seeing my students growing up in absolute poverty, unable to get a dentist, a new pair of shoes, enough money to be fed at home. I can't stress how important this is to the lives of millions across the country. Please keep doing what you're doing, rational, non emotional rhetoric, arguing against populism, and the far right.

@jeanbuchanan1660 19 күн бұрын

Lol

@drummingtildeath 19 күн бұрын

This exchange really sums up the quality of left versus right discourse these days.

@deadliaski 19 күн бұрын

Comment sums it up perfectly. UK has become a nation of chuggers with begging bowls already being polished😂

@pip1723 19 күн бұрын

We should judge Labour on how they perform not on what you think will happen that would be the rational thing to do .

@jumpingalaxies951 19 күн бұрын

@@pip1723 odd statement, by which logic you'd not cast a vote in support

@paulc1553 19 күн бұрын

Well done Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell putting the hours and shift in. Cheers!

@666Eva 19 күн бұрын

Rory looks wrecked!

@marleneboycie4004 19 күн бұрын

@@666Evalol

@margaretbloomer9001 19 күн бұрын

Mogg losing his seat. Pure bliss. 😎

@briandelaney9710 19 күн бұрын

He’s Evelyn Waugh without the talent or wit

@Shaftofthor 19 күн бұрын

He will be briefly banished to his native 18th century

@alexkuznetsov4334 18 күн бұрын

Amen brother!

@damienadams2070 18 күн бұрын

Moggy finally got his catnap 😂😂😂

@emilymaitlislaptop 18 күн бұрын

The Haunted Pencil has been erased. 2B or not 2B, that is the question...

@josephtaylor6285 19 күн бұрын

An American in New York here. You gentlemen are one of my go to’s for British politics. Wonderful analysis.

@mattinterweb 19 күн бұрын

Spot on by Rory. Truss not only incompetent but as her demise clearly showed, classless too. Good riddance.

@redrev674 18 күн бұрын

Galloway classless too.

@Whizzer_ 19 күн бұрын

Watching you both and Emily on Channel 4 was fantastic - my two favorite podcasts together!! Thanks for your hard work!

@emilymaitlislaptop 18 күн бұрын

Her laptop agrees.

@andrewhurstcars 19 күн бұрын

Marathon for you two.

@elliotwilliams7421 19 күн бұрын

Called snickers these days

@RHD 19 күн бұрын

Excellent job tonight Rory and Alastair! Finest political commentators by far.

@DFD542 19 күн бұрын

On Liz Truss' very heavy price: 115k a year guaranteed for the rest of her life. Over three average salaries combined. What a punishment

@SK-hq6ux 19 күн бұрын

People like Liz stress seem to care much more about how they are viewed, so a big price in terms of her ego and ability to re-shape the narrative in her future prospects and possible book writings with her continuous efforts abroad in the Americas

@SimonFrack 18 күн бұрын

@@SK-hq6uxMeh, it just buys into her delusional conspiracy about the deep state sabotaging her and the public not understanding how great she is.

@talkwench340 18 күн бұрын

For 44 days 'work'.

@pjl8119 17 күн бұрын

Truss should be put on trial. She did more damage to the British economy in her brief time in power than Putin has done in his entire lifetime.

@R-11034 17 күн бұрын

Don’t forget she’s also getting 24/7 police protection at taxpayers’ expense.

@harrybhalerao8315 19 күн бұрын

I agree with Rory, the gracious concessions from Sunak, Hunt, and Rees-Mogg are a credit to our democracy and how civil politics can and should be. Let’s hope we can maintain that as the USA seems to go the other way.

@pwood6532 19 күн бұрын

As a Brit now in the usa....you dont realise how important that is until its gone.terrified about November.

@stuartcollins82 19 күн бұрын

That was a comment I made to someone earlier today. I was surprised at the grace, humility, and humanity in many of the tory concession speeches. If they'd displayed those qualities over the last 2 years, they may have had a more successful election.

@neilbundy8028 19 күн бұрын

I loathe Rees Mogg, but he was humble and honest last night

@JohnRawlinson-lt3uz 19 күн бұрын

41% of the electorate didn’t bother 14% were already angry and are going to be furious that they only have 4 seats to show for it That’s more than half of this country who have no faith in the Lab/Con/LD Uniparty - the smoothness with which the political commissariat exchange offices is going to have very little bearing on what unfolds over the next 5 years. Invest in pitchforks and lanterns!

@barryhomeowner9293 19 күн бұрын

@@JohnRawlinson-lt3uzTo fight against the wetherspoon army of reform voters? I think I'll just bring shiny keys to distract them

@Adipsia1 19 күн бұрын

Can we just loop a video of Liz Truss being slow hand-clapped and reluctantly being forced on to the stage to accept her humiliation please ? That was the best start to my day.

@geraldbutler5484 16 күн бұрын

I wish we had the declaration of results in Australia. I think it’s great to see a pompous Tory next to a monster raving looney or Lord Buckethead.

@mskatonic7240 19 күн бұрын

The thing about the SNP a lot of people overlook is that a lot of SNP voters weren't that bothered about independence per se: maybe they favoured it but not strongly or didn't think it would actually happen or didn’t actually care. A lot of Scots saw Labour in disarray, wanted a competent centre left government and went for the SNP. For as long as the SNP delivered that at Holyrood and Labour remained in the wilderness, the SNP did well. Once Labour pulled itself together, the SNP was inevitably going to see a decline. Couple that with financial scandals and the leadership in disarray and you get a wipeout.

@Me-gy7yk 19 күн бұрын

I suspect what happens next is that the headbanger wing of the Conservative Party peels away and joins Reform, as they see the party as the best for their own careers, and the Conservatives drift back to the centre. Get back into Parliament, Rory. I'm a lifelong Labour voter (or was until recent elections saw me turn to Green) but you're the sort of politician I like. Not a fan of Jess Phillips usually but her winning speech was magnificent and she's risen hugely in my estimation.

@terrystewart1973 19 күн бұрын

Alternatively, the Tories continue their rightward travel, embrace all of Reform's points, and end up inviting Farage to join the party. Electoral suicide of course, but a lot of the Conservative members aren't the brightest bunch

@JesterEric 17 күн бұрын

Jess Phillips was quite happy to pander to them when they were voting for her

@CostanzoFerraro 19 күн бұрын

Thank you, Alastair and Rory, for your professional and objective coverage of the election. You embody the excellence the BBC was known for in the days of Robin Day, Peter Snow, and David Dimbleby. Shows my age. I regularly watch your podcast from Italy and recommend it to my students to learn from your civil discourse.

@LuzDoSol-yr5bv 19 күн бұрын

It's the best podcast politics at the moment. Most importantly, easy to understand their analysis. 🎉🎉🎉

@rivgacooper5330 19 күн бұрын

@LuzDoSol-yr5bv Completely agree these two have a huge amount of chemistry as well, they make talking about politics fun. The more people who listen to them the more informed and politically engaged our population will become.

@LuzDoSol-yr5bv 19 күн бұрын

@rivgacooper5330 Truth that!!! The differences in political analysis make me at least a better participant. I laugh so hard a click with Alistair and Nadine Doris this morning. The politics of populism and celebrity type of character needs to stop. Britain is away better than that. I am still not totally convinced about Stamer, but at least we have a new day, new politicians. 😂😂

@chrisbrook7639 19 күн бұрын

As I watched I wanted it to be just the two of them. The engaging analysis and understanding seemed lost on so many of the guests - not just Nadine !!

@jake751 19 күн бұрын

🤮🤮🤮

@TheCountZopolai 19 күн бұрын

It's extremely refreshing to watch two people talking about these issues like adults. I don't agree wholly with either of these people's views- but I could at least seriously consider voting for them Hopefully more of the same going forward.

@tullochgorum6323 19 күн бұрын

On the LibDem strategy, I was campaigning for Tim Farron in Westmorland and Lonsdale. On the doorstep we kept it local, stressing Tim's exceptional record of working for the constituency. And we focused on the need to beat the Tory to achieve national change. Supporters from nearby constituencies where we weren't players poured in to help us. It worked - the result was a massive swing, turning a 6k deficit with the new boundary to a 21k majority. We even grabbed much of the Labour vote...

@kingflynxi9420 19 күн бұрын

I'm a labour voter, I'm really happy for you guys. You deserve a fresh start too and 70+ seats is the perfect way for your party to stretch it's legs

@dreamcrusher112 19 күн бұрын

Yep deep in Wiltshire Labour was 4th behind Lib dem, then Tory, Reform and finally labour. People need to realise the Tories lost loads of voters to lib dem. Look at the south west, lib dem stronghold for the firs time in a long time!

@rolandrothwell4840 19 күн бұрын

Well Done to you, thank you so much for your hard work! Marvellous. I didn't vote tactically, but voted Liberal Democrats regardless of it being a safe(ish) Labour seat. I'm so proud of the LibDems getting 71 seats!! 😊

@ataraxisbuildsthings429 19 күн бұрын

Tim was our MP until recently (we left Levens in 2023) absolutely superb local MP. Congratulations to him and you all!!!

@tullochgorum6323 19 күн бұрын

@@ataraxisbuildsthings429 I've been involved with a number of constituencies and never seen anything approaching Tim's level of dedication. For example he's raised the funds for a whole office-full of case-workers. He doesn't impose his Christian views on anyone, and is hugely involved with the community. Canvassing with Tim is a nightmare because he gets involved in lively discussions with every second voter and we have to drag him away...

@mohammedomar4652 19 күн бұрын

i watched channel 4 all night ONLY because you guys were on and let's face it you banged on about it for weeks - but you were brilliant - you guys were the sensible voices - then we had the lunatics widdy and dorries - nadine was described as 'deluded' by one of the audience members - but us watching know she couldn't go further as it was TV - but for me she is disgusting and vile and why she so badly wants to have boris's babies is beyond me -

@mandywilliams7319 19 күн бұрын

Agree 100% with this

@mohammedomar4652 19 күн бұрын

@@mandywilliams7319 thanks Mandy .... so it's not just me. i don't know if you saw the interview with count bin face - but that made me roar -

@ginnypeckham4022 19 күн бұрын

I'm also beginning to think that Widdy has a massive crush on Farage.

@pjl8119 17 күн бұрын

Widdy and Naddy are mentalists.

@HJJSL-bl8kk 19 күн бұрын

Initially I was rolling my eyes regarding Ed Davey's stunts but he's made young people know who he is. Two months ago they didn't recognise his name.

@tamartiger9055 16 күн бұрын

Agreed. My local LibDem candidate pointed out that without these action man antics Ed Davey would not have got a fraction of the air time that he got as a result of them. He’s not a daft as his antics made him appear, it was an effective strategy in terms of gaining an opportunity to be heard.

@HJJSL-bl8kk 16 күн бұрын

@@tamartiger9055 Every stunt had a message too, eg Lake Windermere is full of shit thanks to privatised water companies. Fair play to him.

@ScottishJazzman 19 күн бұрын

Traditionally a centre-leaning conservative voting remainer here… Rory nailed it on his assessment there. I voted Lib Dem, as did many of my friends and colleagues.

@tadgray9114 19 күн бұрын

The Lib Dems have such a perfect opportunity now to bring in those moderate conservatives. I strongly believe the Tories will shift further to the right, and their traditional base will simply move over to the Lib Dems.

@Chris-hf2sl 19 күн бұрын

Yep - same here. switched from Conservative to Lib-Dem. The Lib-Dems were the only party that campaigned for Remain in the referendum. That alone would be enough for them to get my vote, but if there was ever any doubt, Boris fixed that.

@BjørjaBear 19 күн бұрын

Worst comment on the night was Nadine Dorries trying to put the 'sexist' label on Alistair Campbell.

@VinceLammas 19 күн бұрын

It's not sexist to point out delusional fantasies!

@BjørjaBear 19 күн бұрын

@@VinceLammas indeed not, and it was such a silly copout.

@jaxcoss5790 19 күн бұрын

@@BjørjaBearI was embarrassed for her.

@nomisnagol1423 18 күн бұрын

He isn’t a sexist but he is a war criminal who should be appearing at The Hague not trying to reinvent himself as a thoroughly nice political commentator. Just remember the thousands of innocent men, women and children that died because of him and Blair

@pelagionyx 19 күн бұрын

God, we're free after fourteen years.

@tomo_xD 19 күн бұрын

Nothing will change, except that there'll be more wokery

@jsquire5pa 19 күн бұрын

Cheeks of the same arse 😂

@barbarasears6858 19 күн бұрын

So happy fantastic coverage last night went to bed at 7 30 this morning didn't want to miss any of it

@MichaelBennett1 19 күн бұрын

@@tomo_xD I find your lack of faith disturbing.

@pip1723 19 күн бұрын

Perhaps judge the Labour government on how they perform ?rather than what you think will happen ....

@davecap2641 19 күн бұрын

I am a Brit living in Greece, I was looking forward to watching Alister and Rory on Channel 4 even though it started at midnight, Greek Time. Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to have mad nads on the panel. When I saw her I went to bed..

@K_Ri-mw4hr 19 күн бұрын

I am a very proud Labour Supporter. But we need effective opposition, opposition that are in-touch with the voters If the Tories drag themselves to the right, they'll lose the support and faith of most of their voter base. We need moderate tories, tories who argue about policies and not wage culture-wars, sensible Tories who'll hold Labour to account

@Chris-hf2sl 19 күн бұрын

Sadly all the sensible Tories were either thrown out after the referendum or left of their own accord upon seeing the s**t-show that was about to unfold due to Brexit. Rory Stewart was one of them - a great loss to Parliament.

@wendyknight9574 19 күн бұрын

Lib Dems have a strong presence

@jobrodie7514 18 күн бұрын

I was so impressed with the way Jess Phillips stood up to that gang of yobs. Always good to see a gutsy woman.

@RAMSEYM2402 17 күн бұрын

Gang of Yobs? You can't say it can you, who these yobs were? 😂

@jobrodie7514 16 күн бұрын

@@RAMSEYM2402 Of course I can it was televised. I chose not to give vermin publicity.

@michaelfarrow5817 16 күн бұрын

Maybe they were openly wondering if she was going to quit, as she had threatened to on a number of occasions. At least her partner in grandstanding, Heidi Alexander, will be there to keep her company.

@chrisalbertyn2981 19 күн бұрын

You guys are heroes! Rory, on your interview on Pod Save UK (sorry for mentioning other pod!) you said that action over talking has the biggest impact. You guys here - communicating politics to the public - have a huge impact Sir. Thank you!

@Weakeyedominant 19 күн бұрын

They don't really, they largely speak to the converted as KZfaq likes to recommend this content to consumers of the same political persuasion so it rebounds in its own echo chamber.

@seriousoldman8997 19 күн бұрын

@@Weakeyedominant Like every other tribe?

@robcarrol 19 күн бұрын

The channel 4 coverage was excellent, the ridiculous Nadine Dorres defending her pet buffoon was hilarious

@haakontangvald-pedersen8374 19 күн бұрын

(First comment here, from Norway.) Labour got two third of the mandates with one third of the votes. LibDems got 71 seats with less votes than Reform, who got 4(?) seats. The need for electoral reform seems obvious, especially since your 'multi-party' 'splintering' is probably there to stay. No reform, and the trust in the political system will continue to wither. (Norway has 9 parties in parliament, and no majority party. We quarrel about everything, but the more important the topic is the more we come together and compromise. EVERY party, from communists to populist right agrreed on new and dramatically increased defense spending in the last few months.)

@nickbarton3191 19 күн бұрын

In principle I'd agree, but I suspect that nothing would get done with a UK collation.

@rivgacooper5330 19 күн бұрын

@haakontangvald-pedersen8374 Norwegian are good at compromise, your system works for you. The British, well not so good it would be a total mess. We hear that some European nations take 6 months to get a working coalition, and if this happens in the UK we'd be screwed. Our involvement in the stock exchange requires a stable government, Norway is not so reliant on markets, and what shareholders think of it. We are not the same country, I spent a long time in Norway and would love the British to be more Nordic but we are not, a significant number of the UK electorate would accept high homelessness for a 1% tax, that does not happen in Norway.

@_Wombat 19 күн бұрын

@@rivgacooper5330agreed on all counts. Those who shout for the removal of FPTP have no idea the mess we would end up in. If Reform want to win seats then they need to be tactical with where they stand and campaign. Take a leaf out of the Lib Dems book.

@craigsoota1 19 күн бұрын

We have been in desperate need of PR for years and it’s important we call for it consistently not just when the results become more anomalous. People claim it would or it wouldn’t work.. the key thing is we need to try because it is not right when people’s votes count for nothing.. in FPTP so many people do not vote because they know they will not be represented

@_Wombat 19 күн бұрын

@@craigsoota1 the turnout has dropped for reasons other than FPTP. FPTP is the same as its always been, so it's affect on turnout is also the same. Your claim that it's the cause of low turnout isn't logical. Personally I understand the arguments for and against - but I dread the idea that we end up with politics like the Spanish have where they wind up taking years to form a semi-functioning coalition government.

@Rum8146 19 күн бұрын

Dorries: ‘Kind of ridiculous’? Too kind 😂

@Govanmauler 19 күн бұрын

I had to keep changing channel 😂

@alc7926 19 күн бұрын

⁠@@GovanmaulerMe too, it was excruciating to watch Dorris, it sounded as though she was on the grog.

@johnlinney8685 19 күн бұрын

What is utterly ridiculous is that most right wing Tories whether still as MPs or defeated, all believe the only way their party should go is ever further right! Have they learnt nothing?

@pimmspimms5462 18 күн бұрын

It’s terrifying. They are terrifying. Utterly unhinged.

@keithburrage1424 18 күн бұрын

I suspect the likes of Francois are incapable of learning anything!

@Archie460 19 күн бұрын

So good to see Jeremy Corbyn take Islington 💯

@thealternativeview2692 19 күн бұрын

Glad to see Corbyn and Farage win. Labour won't get a minute's rest from the left and the right.

@chelloandra 19 күн бұрын

Yawn that fake socialist fool

@maxinejarrett7077 19 күн бұрын

@@thealternativeview2692 Should make for exciting politics!

@bigjohn697791 19 күн бұрын

One of the problems with the conservates. If they had more normal people not rich elites or Eton alumni they may well have been more grounded.

@chr1srugby 19 күн бұрын

Alastair shutting down dullard Dorries was a delight to see. Great coverage guys!

@iannicolle3154 19 күн бұрын

watched all of Channel 4s coverage here in Melbourne, Australia. Great job Alister and Rory !!

@fionarangel9486 19 күн бұрын

Commentary from both of you has been an absolute delight throughout this campaign - thank you! 😊

@Govanmauler 19 күн бұрын

Rory is right , Rees Mogg may be the absolute worst, but in his speech I found myself smiling with him and not at him.

@baljj 18 күн бұрын

Rory and Alastair has single handedly rejuvenated my interest in politics. Such top work. Legends.

@belindamay8063 18 күн бұрын

@balij. Is it possible that they will bring back “ proper politics” - politics as it used to be? In recent years it has plumbed the depths. The voters have been dumbed-down with constant drama, the studied clownishness of people like Johnson. Passive entertainment rather than participation. And yet - watch Rory cunningly redefining himself. He knows where he is going.

@BellaRainDrops 19 күн бұрын

Holy crap I stumbled upon your channel while looking for news overnight, took a chance and had a look and wow I'm impressed by you both and I've learned a lot and you have a new sub here.

@Mike20216 19 күн бұрын

The low percentage of the final labour vote share is a bit misleading as there were a lot of tactical voting going on.

@robdodds7696 17 күн бұрын

And Tories tried to suppress the votes with talk of massive majority making it not worth voting. A bit rich that they are now pointing out poor turnout and low share. Tactical voting was crucial though.

@aaronsmith4949 19 күн бұрын

Well done guys! Wish we could have voted for you two!!

@Weakeyedominant 19 күн бұрын

I couldn't ever imagine voting for Alastair Campbell. This pair should stick to pod casts on KZfaq.

@nomisnagol1423 18 күн бұрын

Why would anyone vote for a war criminal. ? I guess his conduct in the run up to the cataclysmic disaster which was the invasion of Iraq has all been neatly brushed under the carpet.

@MrBileDuct 19 күн бұрын

What is most self evident is that the more we engage and listen to our previously perceived adversaries - the more we can find in common - and the more we understand that our core values and humanity are aligned. Listen - Consider - React!

@Steve-co1ic 18 күн бұрын

A lovely moment was watching Liz Truss being forced to stand on the stage for the results, they should make a poster out of it

@marybaxter4779 19 күн бұрын

As a Brit living in Canada, I listen to your broadcasts regularly, Rory and Alistair, as they are articulate and insightful aided by your combined experiences and wit. Thank you so much for keeping me abreast of the realities of Britiish politics. I am proud to be British for the civilized and respectful conduct of most of the politicians, particularly compared to those in the USA who often make me cringe. Well done to you both and thank you!

@J-PoN 19 күн бұрын

What happens next ???? Wear wellington’s for the next week !!! Major parts of the country is set to flood with Tory tears 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jaxcoss5790 19 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@Biblio1000 19 күн бұрын

You guys never stop being absolutely fascinating with your insights, integrity and intellectually rich discussions … Marshall Kutuzov and British elections: well done Rory!

@emmabovary9374 18 күн бұрын

@@Biblio1000 Yes, Kutuzov (a military genius) knew how to deflate the ego of little Napoleon by letting empty Moscow burn on his arrival in 1812. This had precedence in Ancient Greece when the Athenians emptied Athens in the face of Persian invasion, only to trick them into the trap of Salamis. Hubris always loses in the end!

@annesolbe2872 19 күн бұрын

My daughter at Uni in London stated that all her friends were voting Labour until the last few weeks and then all went Green.

@kityfitz 19 күн бұрын

Same in Leeds - as all were really encouraged by the Muslim who won for the Greens.

@sirhch1 19 күн бұрын

Greens are a huge story being ignore by almost everyone. The increase in overall vote was quite astounding. That they pulled off 4 seats in the first past the post system is huge.

@MalcolmMacKenzie-ou1mt 19 күн бұрын

@annesolbe2872 Greens are just communists Anne.

@JonnM 19 күн бұрын

That’s kids for you.

@DomHorne-t2h 19 күн бұрын

Well done them. Voting for what they believe in and ignoring the 'Greens will never win' dismissal

@Joker-yw9hl 19 күн бұрын

The issue with Labour having this landslide with only 34% of the vote is something I do not think people can complain about when turnout was often averaging in the 50s per cent. I didn’t expect a turnout that low

@Michael-sh1fb 19 күн бұрын

I think it's a mistake to conflate indifference between the presented options with apathy.

@LuzDoSol-yr5bv 19 күн бұрын

Liz Truz, Penny Mordan and Jacob, Fabricant. The public, in general, did exercise their democratic decisions. 🎉🎉🎉

@t.p.mckenna 19 күн бұрын

I feel uncomfortable at what I feel is Alastair & Rory's fawning on Nadhim Zahawa. We must never be allowed to forget, this man attempted to evade £3 million in Capital Gains Tax on the sale of his YouGov shares. He also conducted a vindictive campaign against tax lawyer, Dan Neidle, who uncovered the missing CGT. Zahawa at first claimed he was falsely accused and had 'followed the rules'. That then became an admission of carelessness. An oversight he explained, and accepted as such by HMRC, except that they then hit him with a massive £1.5 million fine. Those are very uncomfortable facts which we're not about to forget anytime soon.

@tom5216 18 күн бұрын

Did you look at Alastair's face. At times a wry look of cynicism when Zahawi was wittering on.

@onemanfran 18 күн бұрын

They aren't fawning. However, whatever wrongs Nadhim has done don't negate the fact that he is quite polite and respectful to talk to, so they at least give him space to talk. Unlike someone like Nadine Dorries who constantly tries to talk over people and spout nonsense.

@t.p.mckenna 18 күн бұрын

Thank you for the replies, but I stand by remarks. The man is shameless, still self-fanning his and Johnson's 'triumph' of the vaccine programme. Such lives as were saved rather compromised by the excess deaths from early lockdown exits, eat out, and the wholesale importation of the virus into care homes. Apart from anything else, the real credit of the vaccine implementation should go to the NHS and the local councils and a process that cut out the private profiteering sector.

@tylertomlin3911 19 күн бұрын

Watched you two on channel 4 all night, and morning! Loved you two- as a one nation Conservative Rory is a great representative!

@Cherrytune386 19 күн бұрын

Utterly shameful that people still voted for the Cons tho'. Well done Labour🌹💪🥰❤❤❤❤❣️

@steveknight878 19 күн бұрын

I worry that it is probable that many people didn't vote FOR labour, but against Tory. Will they like what Labour will do with this big majority?

@garyambrosini1427 19 күн бұрын

34% Vote Share. People just dislike the tories more than Labour they do not like Labour!

@leecudmore-ray6697 19 күн бұрын

@@steveknight878 more people vote Labour than you realise. There was a LOT of tactical voting, helping the Libs.

@rivgacooper5330 19 күн бұрын

@leecudmore-ray6697 Yep I live in the seats where only LibDem and Tory can win, around Richmond, Kingston area and about 50% of the people I know want to vote Labour but don't because of the seat we are in. If we have PR a lot more votes would come put of this South London area for Labour.

@steveknight878 19 күн бұрын

@@leecudmore-ray6697 I'm sure that there was a lot of tactical voting of all sorts.

@thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527 19 күн бұрын

The killer of the SNP was the Bipolar views like the freedom of speech laws and sensible trans laws but then crazy Climate policy on oil, the thing that really killed Sunak is the fact he was installed after already losing the leadership contest and i think the Tories leadership will be a revolving door as i don't think the members will go for Braverman and Badinock and probably go for someone else and the internal fighting will turn ugly fast

@kathwilliams9944 19 күн бұрын

Please keep on doing what you are doing. A shining example of fair and considered debate . You complement each other perfectly . Keep up the good work. I hope the country will be patient and give the Labour party the chance to get the country back on trackk 🎉

@Wedgehog 19 күн бұрын

Not sure if you gents will read this, but thank you for the coverage. I'm from Lancashire but living in Tokyo. The C4 show started at roughly 6am for me and I followed you both throughout the working day. Truly fascinating and excellent commentary. Cheers!

@richardb2580 19 күн бұрын

Loving all the congrats in the comments to you two .... I totally concur. Thanks guys!

@trick1838 19 күн бұрын

Rory, we need a man like you back in government, your the only one who would make me vote tory.

@AliceHutchinson-ve2lw 16 күн бұрын

Rory's book however explains why there is little point in voting for an individual unless you also want their party's policies, very sadly as I would otherwise agree with you. If you haven't read his book I highly recommend it.

@trick1838 16 күн бұрын

@@AliceHutchinson-ve2lw I'll have a read . Thank you.

@emmabovary9374 19 күн бұрын

Rory Stewart - honest and brilliant, as usual.

@simonbrownportfolio 19 күн бұрын

I’m emotional it’s the same feeling you would get if your Mother in Law drove off a cliff in your brand new car. I feel a sense of loss of 14 years of opportunity but to see the face of Liz Truss standing on that stage was so worth it. On the day only a handful of my family stood around the grave of my father with what can be described as a minimalist cowboy funeral the parties were taking place in number 10. We don’t forget moments like that and many families had similar moments. So thank you to anyone who voted against them last night. ❤

@Chris-hf2sl 19 күн бұрын

"same feeling you would get if your Mother in Law drove off a cliff in your brand new car" - made me laugh - shame to lose a new car like that.

@SuezWSuezW 19 күн бұрын

I'm so sorry for your pain and loss. What a dreadful time we've all had!

@simonbrownportfolio 19 күн бұрын

@@SuezWSuezW thank you so much for your kind words 🥰

@pimmspimms5462 18 күн бұрын

I’m so extremely sorry for your loss. It’s unforgivable that you couldn’t say goodbye to your father in the way that he and your family deserved. I will never forget or forgive the Tories for all of the harm they have caused to this country and its people. Your vote… my vote… and so many other votes have helped to deliver this message to them. Sending so much love to you, 🕊️ x

@dylanevans2498 19 күн бұрын

Reform is the big news here. There's a reason for that.

@Brian-om2hh 17 күн бұрын

Hardly, with just 4 MP's. They can all fit into one car....

@fingersfinesilver 19 күн бұрын

I watched Channel 4 (via KZfaq) Particularly loved the "fewer" comment against Nadine.. That was great coverage and you guys did an excellent job

@Panini_Edirisinhe 19 күн бұрын

Yes, a very strange election, 🤪 which has kept me up for more than thirty hours, and I'm a seventy-five year old retired Sri Lankan teacher who has never been outside of Asia. And you discussed the election before the South Basildon result came. Please spare a thought for us. Channel 4 has done some very good programmes on Sri Lanka.☺

@kirstymctear5030 19 күн бұрын

FPTP must go.

@SolarMumuns 19 күн бұрын

Why? I'm interested to know why.

@sapienproductions 18 күн бұрын

@@SolarMumuns Belarus and the UK are the only stupid nations that still abuse their electorate with FPTP.

@phoneme52xxx6 18 күн бұрын

@@SolarMumuns Because FPTP is not exactly democratic

@benas_st 15 күн бұрын

It simply doesn't represent the real situation and the votes of the people.

@youknow6968 19 күн бұрын

I think labours low vote share is a result of the Gaza protest votes, it's not just Muslims, but others too. And, also the result of tactical voting, where Labour voters would have voted for other candidates to keep the Tory candidate or Farage lot out. I'm sure both the above must account for at least around a million votes, most likely more. That's over 10% of their vote count, adding at least 4 percentage points, likely more, to their vote share.

@pgpython 19 күн бұрын

Ultimately reform is destroying the right wing vote. It's not that Labour are doing amazing. It's that the votes that would have gone to Conservatives are now being split with reform allowing Labour to win because their vote isn't being pulled in any direction. Ultimately if Labour does OK and starts to make progress some progress in key policy areas this will spell trouble for the right. Half the problem with the conservatives campaign was it was terrible as they weren't offering anything. It was I know things are bad but don't vote for the other party as things will be worse as opposed to what? The rubbish situation you have led the country in. Thats hardly a ringing endorsement. The point of an election campaign is to persuade people why you should vote for their party not why you shouldn't vote for the opposing party!

@youknow6968 19 күн бұрын

@@pgpython I agree. My comment was purely regarding labours vote share, and the possible causes.

@user-ie4df1fm1y 19 күн бұрын

Been a pleasure listening to you two. Freedom at last after 14 years of misery.

@clubwho 18 күн бұрын

i met Rory playing football, during a winter up in Scotland. A very lovely chap, with integrity, grit and humanity. Alaister - seems to have mellowed and become somebody I would have dinner with. Good show.

@eliseleonard3477 19 күн бұрын

Ch4 election coverage was fantastic. Thoughtful and civil discussions (except for Nadine, who was a harpy). As an American I was amazed by how much I learned overnight of UK politics, and also deeply impressed by how local and human MP elections are. The tradition of seeing all the candidates on stage when the count is announced is beautiful. Here in the US we have one Representative for about 700,000 people and campaigns spend a ridiculous amount of money from God knows where, so we don’t don’t have anything close to those community center speeches. Moving stuff!

@petesies1856 19 күн бұрын

Channel 4 eleciton show was by far the best in my opinion. Switched between all at several occasions, inc. Scottish and the energy and dynamix nature of the Channel 4 presentation was far better and more engaging. Good job to everyone involved!

@afmorriarty 19 күн бұрын

Gentlemen you are the epitome of how people from opposite sides of the political spectrum should interact. 👏👏👏👏

@GuyWicks 19 күн бұрын

"You can sleep when you're dead" Well done guys. Fantastic to follow this with you.

@tadgray9114 19 күн бұрын

Regarding Jacob Rees-Mogg, he did the most perfect concession speech. No personal attacks, no excuses, just a congratulations and a thank you. Exactly how it should be done.

@mrharry448 19 күн бұрын

Robert Buckland (to Heidi Alexander) was bizarrely amazing. Had the BBC panel and hosts almost standing and cheering. Then he ruined it straight after by being petty in an off stage interview.

@EasyTiger.01343 19 күн бұрын

He could have had a final whisky and then shot himself. That would have been quite fitting…

@KevinClvrke 19 күн бұрын

Politicians should be like that more often, showing a little bit of a human side and dividing the public less. Glad he's gone though

@talkwench340 18 күн бұрын

Exact opposite to Steve Baker.

@cahillgreg 19 күн бұрын

The take away is - the uk has no measure of how far it has fallen

@annemoncrieff3875 18 күн бұрын

Au contraire many of us do realise.

@kerrynewnham8946 19 күн бұрын

Bizarrely Nicola sturgeon was one of the commentators on itv I think. It must have been so painful to publicly see SNP crumble

@alanrobertson3172 19 күн бұрын

Very impressive endurance by AC and Rory. Looking forward to the ongoing analysis of Starmer and Labour Party.

@carolineclark4760 19 күн бұрын

The work starts now to help the left behind and those who have fallen behind since 2010. So much to do to change the direction of the statistics on poverty, health and life expectancy, educational achievement for the many (not the few), job and career opportunity for the young and the old, housing et al. Alastair and Rory, please keep on proving a forum for real discussion and debate about how to do that

@monk3yboy69 19 күн бұрын

New Labour had 13 years to do all that . They had plenty of opportunities to reverse and correct some of the Wicked Witch’s disastrous policies….but chose not to. So I’d caution against expecting anything like change from this new lot. I say new lot because this is no New Labour. These are the old guard … And they were tired before Tony took them over . Buckle up kids, it’s going to be an interesting ride .

@yourmother2739 19 күн бұрын

Free Palestine! Corbyn should be PM.

@paulemerson2902 19 күн бұрын

The best politics podcast on You Tube

@cabra2365 19 күн бұрын

Great job chaps. I love the balance of views between you as much as your encyclopaedic knowledge, it's so easy to listen to.

@FionaJane-vc2tw 19 күн бұрын

I will listen to this valuable commentary when I have stopped dancing from seeing the Tories finally kicked out! Please, Starmer, make sure you pursue Boris & Co for their corruption and get those billions back.

@rare6499 19 күн бұрын

Wait, you think Labour governments have never made mistakes or wasted money? I’ve got news for you. Maybe start with that war they embarked upon with essentially false evidence.

@garyambrosini1427 19 күн бұрын

You are delusional if you think things will change

@rare6499 19 күн бұрын

@@FionaJane-vc2tw wait, you think the Labour Party never wasted money? Short memory obviously. Perhaps we should pursue them over Iraq first.

@antygod 19 күн бұрын

@@rare6499 you've had 20 years to do that.

@FionaJane-vc2tw 19 күн бұрын

@@rare6499This lot gave billions to their mates. It's called corruption.

@yasminanjum3310 19 күн бұрын

Up for 26 hrs....😮

@leebeenine 19 күн бұрын

great discussion and analysis hope it keeps going

@gailhill5734 19 күн бұрын

Well done guys and rest of ch4 team for a great show. Stayed up all night and loved it. Tories will infight and rip themselves apart but agree with Rory about concerns over low turn out, low Labour support and rise of Reform. However although it would potentially give them more seats we MUST move towards a form of PR if we want political legitimacy in future and encourage the 40% to actually vote....whoever that might be for

@gregh378 19 күн бұрын

I loved Alistair's no nonsense approach to Nadine Dorries last night

@heliotropezzz333 19 күн бұрын

Turnout is low. Apathy? Complacency? Disaffection? New ID rules?

@jaxcoss5790 19 күн бұрын

All of the above.

@wendyknight9574 19 күн бұрын

The repetitive mantra of the ignorant is ‘Don’t trust any of them - they’re all the same’. Labour hasn’t been in power for 14 yrs!

@salagam 19 күн бұрын

I was fully prepared to watch Channel 4 coverage for the duration last night. Rory, Alastair and Emily M are 3 voices I would choose to listen to over almost any other in politics. However the inclusion of Dorries and Widdicombe really tainted my experience and I ended up flitting between all of the najor networks. Surely there were other dissenting voices that were more appropriate? Well done to RS/AC/EM for getting the sensible grown up opinions over.

@iangraham4707 19 күн бұрын

Do enjoy Rorys explainers, very important part of their podcast, keep it going gents, all good stuff

@mbarker 19 күн бұрын

Another great podcast, thank you! And your election coverage has been wonderful. Honestly, if I hadn't heard you say in your brief election-eve episode that you were going to be on Channel 4, I would likely have missed your excellent combined knowledgable & insightful analysis. And yes, I was well impressed by the quality of guests on Channel 4 (I'm slightly ashamed for only having the Beeb on a second screen muted). Almost all the former MPs were smart, articulate, and much less partisan.

@davemartin8577 19 күн бұрын

Currently making a vain attempt to survive on 2 hrs sleep because of you guys. Absolutely worth it though 😂

@mammalmusings3498 19 күн бұрын

9.6 Million people, as many as voted for labour's, voted for a party that wants proportional representation.

@twoeggcups 19 күн бұрын

PR will let the fascists in.

@Ghengiskhansmum 19 күн бұрын

It's not a party, but a millionaires business scheme.

@paulembleton1733 19 күн бұрын

The majority of Labour voters and members also want proportional representation.

@bigfisher4354 19 күн бұрын

@@Ghengiskhansmum Says the new labour party, the child of Tony Blair, the man worth hundreds of millions.

@PopsicleSponge 19 күн бұрын

just as many people didn't vote to leave the EU and we still did.

@JR-yd6ug 19 күн бұрын

The Portillo moment was definitely Liz Truss. She was furious. It was fantastic. Running away like coward instead of making a speech showed how little emotional intelligence she has.

@pimmspimms5462 19 күн бұрын

Thank you, Alastair and Rory. You must both feel bloody knackered (😂)… but your election coverage has been exceptional and completely unmatched.

@johnomalley760 19 күн бұрын

Labour still need to regain respect on their position concerning Gaza.

@Roodeal-1933 19 күн бұрын

The media's focus on Labour's potential majority and Conservative decline in recent polls desensitised the public to the election results. We went into this election expecting these results. After the exit poll, the media seemed to immediately focus on Reform and their supposed 13 seats. It feels like this was led by the media needing a new angle to report on since Labour victory was in some ways 'old news'. We have to make sure the coverage of Farage is proportionate and does not feed the frenzy.

@wekashan 19 күн бұрын

I think Campbell raised this with Channel 4 presenters by asking the mention the 4 seats the Greens won, and give their side of politics equal amount of air time that’s seems to get hoovered up by Farage

@madcowgimbo 19 күн бұрын

Great bit of analysis. I really like Rory. I'm not a conservative voter but I think he would have made a great prime minister.

@smokyhealer125 19 күн бұрын

Labours most memorable moment was Keir telling us how his father was a tool maker

@buntyjoy1800 19 күн бұрын

Im sick of hysteria, lies amd extremism .

@matthewstokes1608 19 күн бұрын

So you watch a sick-minded liar like Campbell - how much blood spilled by his and his close friends’ hands… He fooled us all and destroyed the lives of MILLIONS of innocent people - and caused the twisted mess that is now our broken country.

@PBI45 19 күн бұрын

Maybe we need a Mr Boring, that's my view on it. Someone measured rather than a childish entertainer.

@paulgnsn554 19 күн бұрын

One thing I wanted to ask both Rory and Alastair..what is the main focus of a new opposition? I'd love to believe that some soul searching goes on, followed by a very in depth look at which Western governments are succeeding in growth and the welfare/happiness of their citizens, then trying to work out if those policies would work in the UK, and if not, if there was a way to adapt them. Does this ever happen? Or is the thinking mostly insular and ideological rather than holistically pragmatic?

@HMJ66 19 күн бұрын

Probably just more stoking culture war nonsense to try and regain some credibility with the Reform crowd. There's literally zero chance that the Conservative party will look anywhere other than perhaps the US and Russia for "inspiration" as to how to run government and what the new government should be doing. To them, Europe is just a big scary place full of foreigners where nothing good ever happened after 1945.

@jsquire5pa 19 күн бұрын

😂 .. the naïveté of people on this channel is pretty funny

@paulgnsn554 19 күн бұрын

@jsquire5pa I realise it's naive. But that's no reason why it shouldn't be considered and every indication of why things go round and round.

@jsquire5pa 19 күн бұрын

@@paulgnsn554 you’ve asked a question to them with an utterly obvious answer that is the complete opposite of your milquetoast middlebrow centrist view of the world … try and take in information from more than just your narrow little perimeter ..