Track battle: 2020 Ford Focus ST vs Honda Civic Type R

Track battle: 2020 Ford Focus ST vs Honda Civic Type R | Autocar

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The Honda Civic Type R is our reigning hot hatch king for under £30,000. But now, Ford is back with an all-new Focus ST to take the fight to Honda. It picks up where the last Focus RS left off, with the 2.3-litre turbocharged engine sending 276bhp through the front wheels. Is that going to be enough to defeat the 316bhp Civic?
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@fabian2632 4 жыл бұрын

3:23 The fuel cover flips open upon cornering..

@mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 4 жыл бұрын

I know right 😂

@ChopStickZero 4 жыл бұрын

you can see that it wasnt fastened.

@fantheman1126 4 жыл бұрын

It's an air brake!!

@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын

Car screams: IM HUNGRY!

@PiroFyre 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if this is a common problem. I know a Type-R owner that has to constantly close the door because it just opens automatically all the time.

@robertcarmona04 4 жыл бұрын

I wish this Focus would of came to the US, still love my 2017 ST it’s fun as hell to drive everyday, awesome daily

@thepassionofthegoose5472 4 жыл бұрын

Looks clean, too. ST is a great choice.

@mikesanto69 3 жыл бұрын

The one thing I really love about the Focus ST is its lift-throttle-oversteer in fast corners....basically the car rotates like a rear wheel drive car and that is awesome and way better than pushing/understeer in the corner!!!! The 2013+ cars did it too and the stock rubber that came on them was decent too but I would have loved to drive one that had a fresh set of TOYO R888's on it. One thing I hated was the Recaro seat option. I'm 6' 235 and it was like being in a coffin.....the stock non-Recaro seats were great. The Recaros in the Mustang were much wider than the Focus ST which never made sense to me

@kyleatherton88 3 жыл бұрын

its a shame for you guys in the US. ford is an american company but honestly the past 30 or so years you guys have really missed out on fast fords. in the UK we have had so many over the years. back in the day if you owned any ford with a "cosworth" badge on the back you where a king 😎😂. nowadays they are worth an absolute fortune. tge mk2 focus st and rs are my favourite. 5cyl engines engine notes 🙌. you guys missed out on those too

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@34A1A 4 жыл бұрын

either way the ST put up a hell of a fight

@micklawrence2630 4 жыл бұрын

Very close .... type r has got rave reviews everywhere..... type r = RS not the St so st has come a long way 👍🏼

@jannowak8951 4 жыл бұрын

Is it? RS is four wheel drive which makes a bit of a difference compared to Type R. More power too. Still, I agree with your conclusion.

@tropikal-1747 4 жыл бұрын

@@jannowak8951 The Type R is in the same performance bracket as cars like the Focus RS, STI, Golf R, etc. All while being FWD.

@tommy4862 4 жыл бұрын

They cost the same money so ST vs Type R. Honda doesnt have a competitor to RS.

@abaj006 4 жыл бұрын

If you watch the video closely, the driver missed a shift on the type R, just before the finish line. So I would take these lap times with a huge grain of salt.

@kongxiong6005 4 жыл бұрын

@@tommy4862 only thing I get out of this is that the ST is the better buy vs the RS.

@PeakPerformanceReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t surprise me that it’s so close, Ford have nailed it with this car, reviewed both of these on our channel and agree with all your comments about both. Great vid guys 👌😎

@Ikakusya 4 жыл бұрын

Spot on review. You guys are getting there:)

@samgab 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, as I'm considering both of these cars. Whoever flies your drone does a great job. Good videography all round, in fact.

@georgenestoridis3452 4 жыл бұрын

This duo is really entertaining. Keep going !

@oferaloferal796 4 жыл бұрын

Does not happen much for me these days, that I enjoy a car review so much that I actually tune in on a normal x1 speed and sit tight beginning to end.. well done guys and thank you!

@bazzab1000 4 жыл бұрын

Tires could potentially play a big part in those lap times.

@andrewwest5344 4 жыл бұрын

tyres also play a part too :)

@INUMIMI28 4 жыл бұрын

It does, and probably downforce for the Type-R as well

@ashleylemmer8016 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoying this test format guys.

@leoesposito8762 4 жыл бұрын

Love them both great vid guys. ..

@alexoliver2608 4 жыл бұрын

.44 is a lot closer than I thought it would be, but it's only a 47 second lap. I think a lap around the Nurburgring would be seconds difference.

@OldManOnTrak 4 жыл бұрын

I can't tolerate the looks of the Type-R although I admire what it can do. The ST is less than half a second slower, and probably the better road car - I'd take the Focus

@Shane-zx4ps 4 жыл бұрын

The type r is a brilliant road car with the suspension settings, so it’s better then the focus everywhere, what do you expect it’s only a ford...

@richardjallen1980 4 жыл бұрын

Amen to that @quiller95

@gabrielgonzalez9547 4 жыл бұрын

@@Shane-zx4ps and the Honda is only a Honda!

@rhydynamic8306 4 жыл бұрын

But in my opinion, I have mixed thoughts on the Type-R. It does well, but the rear end looks like it got smushed by Godzilla.

@richardjallen1980 4 жыл бұрын

@bapster man clearly a Honda fanboy. Did you actually watch the video? The verdict was nowhere near as clear cut as you suggest. One chose the Honda, one the Ford. And Ford Performance are on a real roll at the moment. The Fiesta ST is widely recognised as the best in its class and the Focus ST also getting v good reviews. Type R clearly a great driver's car...if you can get over the looks

@shshh-fw9eh 4 жыл бұрын

Love these cars and hope they will exist well into the next few decades.

@purgex861 4 жыл бұрын

.44 seconds slower for a car you can drive all day everday is impressive. Also the Sound in the ST is much better and how it should be in a hothatch 💪🏼

@denniskwok7613 4 жыл бұрын

The engine sound in the Ford is partly synthetic though. The Type-R sounds great in real life. Also, the Type-R would be perfectly fine as a daily.

@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын

Comparing Focus to Honda. Possible only in UK and 'Murica.

@purgex861 4 жыл бұрын

@Ken Healy yea hopefully, i bought one 😅

@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they used right headgasket this time.

@williambellisIII 4 жыл бұрын

@@jareknowak8712 You can easily drive the Type R "all day everyday." LOTS of people comfortably and happily daily drive it.

@nestorcabrales3983 4 жыл бұрын

1st car I had was Honda Si 4thg but my ST is life .

@paulb7200 3 жыл бұрын

Quick question and apologies if I missed it but did you have the focus st in race mode for this comparison?

@tobysemler 4 жыл бұрын

Another excellent review from these two. Insight balanced with emotion, and eminent clarity. The best.

@markacevedo441 4 жыл бұрын

I knew for sure the Type R would be quicker but am quite surprised how fast the new ST is comparably, And they went up to the 2.3 from the 2 liter!?

@xIcarus227 4 жыл бұрын

@Dr Beechas for real though, you probably don't want much more than 300HP on a FWD car. That 2.3 block in stock form is good for 400-420HP, which is more than enough.

@nrvous309 4 жыл бұрын

Those lap times are closer than I thought they'd be

@richardbaker696 4 жыл бұрын

Type R has grown on me - it looks dramatic rather than ugly

@Mctab 4 жыл бұрын

The ST is the winner for me, its not out there to beat the typer r that's what the rs is for. Let's be honest it was down on power and still kept up. Yes tyres make a difference but they were both on good sets of tyres.

@jmarston1043 4 жыл бұрын

well said

@georgeyy_coop 4 жыл бұрын

Kept up? Run 20 laps of this circuit and see how well it's keeping up. Would be almost half a lap by that point. I imagine the type R wouldn't misshift going onto the straight every lap like it did this one, so it'd only get worse for the ST

@bat33.12 4 жыл бұрын

The Civic Type R FK8 is £450 cheaper than the ST

@jmarston1043 4 жыл бұрын

@@bat33.12 yes but imagine having to drive around trying ur best to avoid meeting a ST on the road let alone the RS when ur in a Type R, even tho the "Type R" is supposed to be the top spec of the Honda Civic's it is a bit embarrassing knowing you can just keep up with a Focus ST - which is 2nd best to the RS

@zealeau 4 жыл бұрын

@@jmarston1043 i was inside a Focus RS and could not wait for the ride to finally end , my whole body was hurting , its not always about top speed but also on total car performance and the type r is a beauty to ride with .. if you sit inside one you will understand the difference ... also if i am not wrong the RS is much more expensive than the Type r ?

@charliejohn1 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2014 Focus ST and I'm still in love with it. I'm still in shock about why Ford stopped selling the Focus STs in the US. It is a great car.

@sassythesasquatch8006 4 жыл бұрын

way more of a market for it in europe

@TravelWBrennanMegan 4 жыл бұрын

@@sassythesasquatch8006 I can attest to that. I used to sell for Ford. People would come in to test drive an ST, but needed an automatic 🤦🤦

@sassythesasquatch8006 4 жыл бұрын

@@TravelWBrennanMegan yup wayyyy different culture out there when it comes to driving

@dawnhazelwood6977 4 жыл бұрын

Brennan Perry g

@Chewygsxr 4 жыл бұрын

Charlie Cobra Me too, I have a 14 Fiesta ST and love, I was going to get the new one but Ford pulled the plug, big mistake. ST’s rule.

@superfast30 4 жыл бұрын

Mega bro, MEGA!

@frankmolina6910 4 жыл бұрын

The Focus ST it's one of the best cars there is for the budget price...

@8SpeedNate 4 жыл бұрын

not anymore

@Diguez 3 жыл бұрын

@@8SpeedNate who is first ?

@soundseeker63 4 жыл бұрын

You have to give it to Ford chassis engineers...The Focus is about 40bhp down on the Honda yet it very nearly kept up! No way could it do that if the chassis, suspension and brakes weren't on point. The price though..... For £26/27k it would be the obvious class leader but £32k is a BIG jump over the old ST. In fact thats the same price as the old RS!!

@bat33.12 4 жыл бұрын

Add in the performance pack and that takes the ST to £33,000

@xIcarus227 4 жыл бұрын

Actual price is lower, that's just Ford's bullshit list prices. I think everyone I've seen who's bought one has had it for around 30k with pretty much every option.

@arifazar786 4 жыл бұрын

@@bat33.12 That is an interesting point.. The ST was suppose to be an affordable hot hatch.. At that price, it isn't..

@chrishallatt 4 жыл бұрын

Half a second lost easy with the miss shift in the type r lol

@STEVEBHPDEVON 4 жыл бұрын

The st has 30ps less and as seen more fun the nurburgring isn't just down the road ,wishing was lol

@DBABAE 4 жыл бұрын

Lost 0.5sec or more coming out the final corner with that miss-shift and banging on the limiter lol

@anavarro4385 4 жыл бұрын

On their video: Track battle: 2019 VW Golf GTI TCR vs Honda Civic Type R, he makes 46.60sec so there you go

@kpsig 4 жыл бұрын

Half a second in a 47 secs lap is big difference.

@Philbyyyy 4 жыл бұрын

Negligible if you just wanna drive on the roads though

@kpsig 4 жыл бұрын

Cact I I agree and then none of these cars really make any sense

@TasimanaOG 4 жыл бұрын

@@kpsig exactly... would rather have something with awd or rwd if i wanted fun / speed, not a fwd car made for tracks :P golf r and bmw m140i / audi rs3 if it was a hatch but then again golf r is the only one that makes sense and where im from the kia stinger gt is the same price soooooo

@vinodramluckan4099 4 жыл бұрын

That time difference is very small, the new ST is quite impressive.

@lungulet 4 жыл бұрын

No, it is not small! Half of a second on a 47 seconds lap it is huge! Go for 10 laps and you live the Focus behind for 6 seconds. And this is a very small and narrow trak, the Honda didn't had the chance to use all the power and speed it is capable of.

@vinodramluckan4099 4 жыл бұрын

@@lungulet I do get your point, however I do think the civic type R is a lot more of a track focused car than the ST, also the civic is more powerful, I guess most people who would buy these car's will never push them to these limits on track, for that reason I think hands down the Focus will be the easier Car to live with daily for year's to come. However I do love the civics track ability, just not to keen on the aggressive styling. Cheers.

@BrunoSantos-ie2nx 4 жыл бұрын

@@lunguletthe brand new Focus RS will tell you a story

@ashdog236 4 жыл бұрын

Lungu Gabriel it’s the ST though, the Honda should be MUCH faster, it’s not even Fords fastest hatch. That’s the RS which will clearly be faster than the Honda!

@xIcarus227 4 жыл бұрын

@@lungulet come on dude, what's the deal with using 10 laps to exaggerate your point? The result is the same. Half a second difference on a 47 second lap is really not bad for a car with 40 less horsepower and which isn't built to be a track car. The ST did very well.

@williambellisIII 4 жыл бұрын

While it's yet another entertaining video from Autocar, what does half a second matter to the vast majority of buyers? They're both relatively quick cars. Ok, great. The question I'd ask myself is this: which one is more engaging and enjoyable to drive? (Also think brand loyalty is a major decision factor here.)

@HesteBremse 4 жыл бұрын

Set aside even Brand loyalty, the Civic is screaming I am fast, and the ST is a nearly a sleeper for the untrained eye. So if Track days are not really your thing and you are not the only one to decide on which car to buy properly the ST will be the choice - while if you are into track days and you do not care how other people might look at you in your car, then the Civic is the one to have. But personally I like them both, but I find the new Focus design not so engaging - it is a more mature and practical design with a global DNA fitting more markets, while the Civic still is the stand out from the crowd hot hatch no matter where you will drive it. I would certainly have more considerations between the last generations where the Focus had a much more distinctive look. But perhaps all this will change with a Focus RS version.

@rsclaytv 4 жыл бұрын

Love my mk3 focus rs but these new st’s look quick, excited to see the rs

@michaeldeadwyler4034 4 жыл бұрын

More like which one is more reliable.

@HelloHi-tt5sl 4 жыл бұрын

@William Also reliability has a major part to play. One back in the day Stood for Fix Or Repair Daily (FORD) apparently and the other well Ive got the EP3 civic Type R from 2005 150k miles on the clock rev to near 9k.

@EliteGi 4 жыл бұрын

The track is very short with slower corners - you can bet the difference on a full length track will be amplified to a couple of seconds

@EugVR6 4 жыл бұрын

That's a close time for the positions those cars hold in the market place

@esariasesarias3793 4 жыл бұрын

Is michel better than continental contact 6, I didn't understend what you speek.

@adamsargeson520 4 жыл бұрын

The chassis in my dc2 was awesome😁

@ja390b 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see the mk2 rs vs the mk4 st

@gumpy4960 4 жыл бұрын

Half a second over such a short lap is good, but that miss shift cost time, not sure why he couldn’t just re do the lap

@pjkf01 4 жыл бұрын

No kidding. It was a pretty substantial flub-up. I think it would have reflected greatly in the time.

@corone2018 4 жыл бұрын

Gumpy 49 cause he owns the ST

@georgeyy_coop 4 жыл бұрын

Artificially creating competition 😂

@rubbish6017 4 жыл бұрын

They probably did a few laps a piece and chose the faster of the laps between both cars.

@georgeyy_coop 4 жыл бұрын

@@rubbish6017 and didn't show the footage from that lap? Seems odd if you're going to record your hot laps.

@connorbrooks1102 4 жыл бұрын

2:09 fuel cap is open 😂

@FalconXE302 3 жыл бұрын

By the sounds of it, you guys had the ST it in normal mode...I could not hear the pops and crackles you get from the ST in sport or race mode.

@PiroFyre 4 жыл бұрын

I am curious what tires they put on this car. All I could find was that they're Michelins. Other then that, I wish it came to the US as I would've waited for this with the performance pack instead of getting a Veloster N w/ performance pack. This car just looks more normal and looks like it drive more mental than the Veloster N. Plus, to beat a Type-R that comes stock with the Continental SportContact6 on a small go-kart type track, that's quite good. The N would need a much better tire than the PZ4s that comes stock with it if it wants to have a chance to beat a Type-R on a similar track.

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well!! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@ranjitaborah2252 4 жыл бұрын

Type r always rocks

@leighdicken7648 4 жыл бұрын

I love both of these cars.

@SlapbackGOD 4 жыл бұрын

I have an 2012 Fiesta zetec 1.4 petrol, just a basic car but I absolutely felt in love with it. never owned an Ford, and I was sceptical about purchasing it.. but I took me completely for the price/quality.. sound isolation, comfort and good speeds for a little engine as 1.4. it kicks very nice when pressed and responds in time when needed. I paid about 4000£ with 45k miles but was totally worth it. Honda is a dream car for me as well, but maybe one day who knows 👍

@StigMug 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like one of each . . .

@haaychblockten3821 4 жыл бұрын

Ive got the new ford focus st line x wish i had this instead though

@bertoj82 4 жыл бұрын

Well I'm happy the ST lives on over seas but it looks too egg like in shape it looks really bad but looks good Performance wise, the type R and ST need to trade some body characteristics to balance them out lol

@BaaSicStuff 3 жыл бұрын

ST is the first sport car/hatch that Ive not modified, its perfect.

@hoodman420 4 жыл бұрын

So sad we here in the U.S. will never get this car. I would trade my 2018 Focus ST in for one today. You could tune this one back up to RS power and have even more fun for a low price of $500.

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@clutchfreak13 4 жыл бұрын

8:00 that tripod xD

@jo05dk 4 жыл бұрын

I'm VERY impressed by the ST here. Nice to know there is a non-horrible looking alternative.

@buckleyjteams 4 жыл бұрын

Its like comparing the impreza to the evo you pick the impreza to drive to the tack and the evo for the track

@javierspina278 3 жыл бұрын

Civic type r vs Focus rs who is the winner?

@NaijaBull 4 жыл бұрын

Vtec has nothing to do with turbo lag, it's tuned to maintain power top end all the way to redline

@mlukubone7134 4 жыл бұрын

That’s close 😱

@user-dn3yk2qu7f 4 жыл бұрын

Where’s that bloody legend Sutcliffe

@mrnicktoyou 4 жыл бұрын

D 13 saw him at EVO recently.

@mrfrdman 4 жыл бұрын

Focus ,I like both but the Focus for a daliy :)

@NUWEST00520041 4 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice all the head shaking in the Ford vs. The civic?

@krAwly 4 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else notice the fuel cap open when the Type R went round the corner at 03.22

@SilverScarletSpider 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to see a next gen Focus RS to go up against the Civic Type R!

@xXExtremeTABXx 4 жыл бұрын

You're going to be disappointed I'm afraid. Ford has announced that there will be no next-generation Focus RS :( And therefore, probably not another RS ever again, unfortunately

@PPGNI 4 жыл бұрын

New Mountune ST will be interesting

@arifazar786 4 жыл бұрын

MP330 is out and wow..

@PPGNI 4 жыл бұрын

Arif Azar must check it out thanks

@williamcuthbertson6575 4 жыл бұрын

FoMoCo, please import these to North America. What a fun car!

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@leratonomyayi541 4 жыл бұрын

That focus is a God on the corners

@SalynnaNavirera Жыл бұрын

Any video st vs i30n?

@Inverted8 4 жыл бұрын

The US built Honda Civic 3 door looks way better. I don't understand why they didn't make that into a Type R.

@f181234 4 жыл бұрын

Gary Lee because nobody buys coupes they’ll sell 5 of them a year

@gillesthibault429 4 жыл бұрын

The Civic Coupe is Made exclusively at HCM1, in Alliston, ON, Canada, barely 4km from where I'm sitting. (Though I drive an FK7 made in Swindon UK. Go figure...)

@nunofranco4232 4 жыл бұрын

If people bought them, they would make them. If the type r was a 2 door, I wouldn’t of bought one. I have kids and dogs.

@Inverted8 4 жыл бұрын

@@gillesthibault429 I live about 4km from the Swindon plant and used to work there. I still prefer a 3 door hatchback, that's why I drive a 3 door Golf R

@gillesthibault429 4 жыл бұрын

@@Inverted8 I understand now. In North America, there has not been a 3-door Hatch since 2000 (except for the 2001/2 Si/SiR - that was made in UK). Nor was one made in North America since (only Coupe and Sedan).

@buildmorefarms1007 4 жыл бұрын

I wish the Focus ST was available in the USA! My 2016 ST3 is a blast but I would trade up for the new 2.3 liter ST!

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree!! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@H8XME 3 жыл бұрын

Where was the st’s pops and bangs 💥? My st mk4 does it all the time 🎉

@LLLLLLLLLucas 4 жыл бұрын

I'm none the wiser... is the ST front wheel drive?

@hoodman420 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@louchapuk 4 жыл бұрын

The Focus ST look's like a bus on wheels going round them corners , The Type R looks so much better , when you see them on the road, they look awesome , a proper mean looking sports hatch

@xIcarus227 4 жыл бұрын

To each their own, being in the market for a hot hatch I think the Type-R looks ridiculous at the back. This ST is too restrained in the front though, it looks just like a regular ST-Line. The back is much nicer though.

@paddydowney6269 4 жыл бұрын

Surely we’ll see a no-lift-shift fitted to the next gen of these manual hot hatches

@Forshbr04 4 жыл бұрын

Paddy Downey Which is crazy because the Cobalt SS had a no-lift shift function like ten years ago. Not saying that made it a great car or anything, but it was ahead of its time in that respect.

@deeppers69 4 жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t they be comparing the civic Si vs the focus st? And the type r vs the rs?

@javierspina278 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

@tomelliott9 4 жыл бұрын

Was expecting the Focus to get absolutely done in on the lap. Only 1% behind the Civic.

@dblue7711 4 жыл бұрын

Short lap, tight circuit, badly missed gear change . Probably bigger difference than that infers but the ST is very good.

@fell321 4 жыл бұрын

@@dblue7711 Focus has less power though.

@muldix 4 жыл бұрын

The new Type R grips! There is fuel cover to tell you.

@benjaminbrown9307 4 жыл бұрын

Wow shows that the focus st has come along way but tbh you can have as much fun if not more in a fiesta st which i do for near as £10000 less

@EvanMoon 4 жыл бұрын

Fun WINS

@jamesp8569 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Ray Winstone has a day job.

@Earl_VTEC 4 жыл бұрын

The lovely TypeR rulez the world!!!

@Dr3v0 4 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be close that close, give both cars to the same professional driver and watch the Type R win by a lot more ..

@ChopStickZero 4 жыл бұрын

Ive got a feeling the lap time is more due to how fast this guy dares to drive rather than how fast car is. Which is why its so similar. If you put my granma in a ferrari or fiat 500 with 1.1 engine, she'd lap it the same. Except constantly driving in high rpm as if that constitutes fast lap time by itself, the guy driving is very leisurely around the track.

@Maskinmester-DK 4 жыл бұрын

Not in the wet. Tyres is the problem, not the driver.

@njabulogodfrey2039 4 жыл бұрын

C'mon we talking about a brand new car here with European engineering

@Dr3v0 4 жыл бұрын

@@njabulogodfrey2039 It's a Renault, if you lived in EU you'd know what that means alone.

@njabulogodfrey2039 4 жыл бұрын

Dr3v0 unfortunately I haven't so balance me real quick

@vancehibberd1546 4 жыл бұрын

If you aren't a speed freak but enjoyed a quick rd car the focus. I'm not that, so the CTR please

@MrSlash00r 4 жыл бұрын

Younger me definitely goes for the Civic but that ST is probably a better car to actually own and be seen in by other humans with eyes

@mohammadrasoulfard-habibi3066 4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't of put it better.

@user-nr7yp2sl3l 4 жыл бұрын

MrSlash00r Honda has good reliability but yes I agree👍🏻👍🏻

@tomtom255 4 жыл бұрын

The current me knows after buying two Ford ST products that the paint on the Honda won't start peeling off after two years because it's rusting underneath, so I'd buy the Honda hahaha.

@dblue7711 4 жыл бұрын

I've never had anything but positive reactions to my Type R- Its an aggressive looking thing but it generates only admiration. I'm not fussed or bothered about "selling" it to others, I'm just relating my experience.

@kofib3 4 жыл бұрын

@@dblue7711 They look quite menacing in Night hawk black 👍

@anakmuda2544 4 жыл бұрын

please make a track battle between TypeR and A35

@benamarayoucef9402 4 жыл бұрын

Megane Rs trophy R please 🙏

@adamsubtract81 3 жыл бұрын

I just wish the Type R was a bit more understated looking.

@sage11x 4 жыл бұрын

We don’t get the focus in the US which is a shame. I’d kill for an ST wagon as my daily. And here in Detroit it would likely be much , MUCH less than the Type R which the dealerships here really gouge on.

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

I agree! Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Even if the price was similar to the Type R, I'd still choose the Focus ST based on looks, sound, and driving experience alone, not to mention the Type R's gearbox grind issues. I can't stand the styling of the Type R honestly

@GreysMonster 4 жыл бұрын

Lol the fuel cover 🤣🤣🤣

@CJax749 4 жыл бұрын

# CrazyWithGau Can’t believe he didn’t shut it properly 😂

@Chicken_Nugget1 4 жыл бұрын

Anybody get the impression that guy thinks the Type-R is a "serious bit of kit"?! Couldn't tell you why. Also... MEGA BRRRRRRUVVV!! (After viewing some more vids from this otherwise great channel the above covers 75% of his reviews about any car.)

@emmanuel8723 4 жыл бұрын

Focus for me.

@guitaristwagner 4 жыл бұрын

Pointless for me since they don’t sell focuses in USA anymore 😔

@woody555kl 4 жыл бұрын

But they do sell the ecoboost gt that thing looks way better

@guitaristwagner 4 жыл бұрын

woody555kl I’m one of the rare Americans that prefer a hot hatch. I don’t care for the styling of the new mustangs

@VAspeed3 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, that sucks. So when my ST wears out I'll have to get the Type R.

@Shane-zx4ps 4 жыл бұрын

Justin Wagner your lucky they don’t sell them cause fords are crap

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

Fellow Americans: Let's all do our part: call or write Ford U.S. Customer Relationship Center and tell them what their American customers want. If we all contact them, maybe they'll realize it's a profitable business decision to bring the Focus ST 6 spd manual transmission to the US/North American market. Wouldn't hurt to ask for the Fiesta ST and/or the Puma ST 6 speed manual as well! Ford Motor Company Customer Relationship Center P.O. Box 6248 Dearborn, MI 48126 Ford U.S. Phone: 1-800-392-3673

@Fritz___ 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t wait until the 2021 Subaru WRX & STI come out to compete with these cars🤘😎

@gillesthibault429 4 жыл бұрын

Then the 11G Civic Type R comes barely a few months later... something to follow...

@tanvirhussain6106 4 жыл бұрын

So quick fuel filler cap went flying!

@guywithjeep 4 жыл бұрын

3:20 gas cap flys open lol. I love Honda's but that's hilarious.

@djs18 4 жыл бұрын

Lol the gas cap doesn't just fly open. It was never closed properly to begin with and as a result, opened on its own.

@guywithjeep 4 жыл бұрын

@@djs18 I bet, still hilarious tho

@lewinwin9706 4 жыл бұрын

LOL fuel cover gone wild!!!

@SJcrib 4 жыл бұрын

As a owner of this ST, i gotta say it... Screw honda and their aero. But seriously, the new ST is a blast and i can't complain what so ever, just love it.

@jamaicanlovrboy 4 жыл бұрын

so crazy how ford is an American company yet other countries get their best iterations of cars.......the only car we get now is the mustang

@f181234 4 жыл бұрын

jamaicanlovrboy Ford isn’t American company now it’s a global Company

@danielleroux6490 4 жыл бұрын

I still can't believe their crazy decision to cancel this great generation of Focus and Fiesta hatchbacks in the U.S. It's a BAD move and it makes me sad

@danielleroux6490 3 жыл бұрын

@lo2713 3 жыл бұрын

As good as this was do both cars come with cup holders ? You need to start looking at the important stuff 👍😂

@cj41079 4 жыл бұрын

CTR generates so much G force it opened up its gas door lol anyone catch that? lol

@njabulogodfrey2039 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I saw that too but what sprang into my mind was maybe the fuel flap was poorly engineered for a Japanese 🤣🤣

@bob6168able 3 жыл бұрын

It would have been nice if they turned over the drivers on the 2 cars , back to back so we would know there opinions.

@Kodreanu23 4 жыл бұрын

You are living the life, aren't you?

@michaelherron4306 4 жыл бұрын

With the Honda having looks only a mother could love, the W goes to Ford

@Mike604 4 жыл бұрын

Focus looks like any other Fords on the road, no one would take a second look. No one cares.

@Peterhaynes 4 жыл бұрын

Looks are subjective, Honda still the better car.

@Emily-Double_Take_Snakes 4 жыл бұрын

One is in every way better than the other Ford is unreliable and it looks like the gtis retarded cousin

@xIcarus227 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mike604 it definitely looks sportier than the other Fords on the road, but I'll say Ford fucked up by making the front of the car look just like the regular ST-line.

@tusharmodi880 4 жыл бұрын

This guy is always on the shiken

@boabm6522 4 жыл бұрын

Audi S3 or a mk2 5 pot for me, cheap as chips (Focus), common as muck but give you the smile factor 🙃

@Nakke144 4 жыл бұрын

@Nims A What drugs are you taking? The old 5-cylinder is a much more tunable engine and any mk2 RS will easily leave any mk3 ST for dead both on the straights and in the corners.