Treble Bleed Mod: How To Add a Treble Bleed To Your Guitar

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6 жыл бұрын

What is a treble bleed? What it does and how to install it in a Stratocaster.
One common downside of many modern guitar wiring circuits is the frustration of losing high end frequencies as the volume is decreased resulting in a loss of brightness and a muddy, foggy tone. Thankfully, this is easily fixed by installing a treble pass capacitor (known as the treble bleed mod) into the circuit.
A treble bleed reduces the amount of treble that bleeds to ground allowing the you to lower the volume yet maintain the strong output and clarity.
In this video we install a 0.001uF capacitor with a 150k resistor and install it inside a Stratocaster. A treble bleed circuit uses a small value capacitor and resistor that connects across the volume input and output lugs. Once installed in an active circuit, the capacitor only passes the high end frequencies.
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@timothydaniels9624 4 жыл бұрын

The neatness of your work makes all of this so clear. Very helpful and well done. Thank you

@SixStringSupplies 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

@socialdef3 5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks, this video helped more than most others on youtube.

@philking8070 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent - I’m installing some new pickups and pots in a strat and wondered what these were about when I looked up the wiring details etc. Like you I quite like the treble to roll off a little with reduced volume, so I won’t be doing the mod, but thanks to you I now know why!

@ramencurry6672 8 ай бұрын

I bought those types of treble bleed capacitors from Amazon. Shockingly good

@karmatilya 4 жыл бұрын

I just installed treble bleed on my Ibanez and this video helped me a lot. Thank you 😊

@SixStringSupplies 4 жыл бұрын

No worries glad you found it useful!

@stevesguitarschool3654 4 жыл бұрын

Just got a new strat and was very confused why the tone got darked after turning volume down..... used to playing a guitar which had a treble bleed installed as standard, so ordered a kit from your store on account of your very helpful video... cheers!

@gawentaylor6838 Жыл бұрын

Hi, thank you for simplifying this, great video. I have a Ibanez Jem Jr, when I roll back the volume the tone goes from bright and open to less bright and kinda muddy. Will the treble boost be the right fix for this?

@calyptratus187 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the half blender mod step by step. I just finished wiring my strat. It was first time wiring a pickguard from scratch and it came out flawlessly. I want to add a treble bleed along with the 1/4 blend mod. Can I just follow this video exactly?

@joselezcano8215 4 жыл бұрын

great video. thanks

@mywaveinwoodswoodperfumes 5 жыл бұрын

i love it when it’s scientific talk. thanks

@bluwng Жыл бұрын

If we wire the middle pickup and bridge pickup in series visa a switch on a three single coil guitar we get a humbucker but it will sound muddy. If we had a treble bleed cap will it clean it up by retaining the higher frequencies? I am just speculating at this point. Appreciate any help.

@LosTroopos 4 жыл бұрын

Just found this channel while researching for my HSS strat build. Great content and very detailed stuff. Subbed immediatly. One question though: What values would you recommend for the treble bleed in an HSS configuration with 500k master volume pot? Awesome stuff!

@stevef8945 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same questions if anyone has the answer? Thanks

@okioktamiyuda3205 4 жыл бұрын

I think 0.001uF capacitor and 270k resistor

@electricblue73 Жыл бұрын

how do you connect the treble bleed capacitor if using a mini toggle DPDT switch? I have a DPDT on/on mini toggle switch that I need to turn the treble bleed circuit on/off.

@Bairov Жыл бұрын

This would be perfect with a push/pull pot, so you can defeat it for fuzz and drive pedals! Is this possible?

@sendybram 7 ай бұрын

Do I have to use orange capacitors or can I use mkm capacitors?

@bonnyr6246 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for info. Is all that copper shielding grounded (faraday?) I am doing same and dont really understand it well, should the shielding come into contact with the switch and pots when it's got a ground wire to a screw in the body cavity and copper tabs connect to the pickguard shielding? Should i leave the space under the switch and pots free of shilding so they dont ground that way?? Ta :)

@SixStringSupplies 5 жыл бұрын

Hi sir - really slow in replying but this video on shielding a guitar should help. Cheers kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsmIqLmJ16ncmZs.html

@sean_tristan31 3 ай бұрын

Hello, are the jumpers really necessary to reduce noise? I see that the guitar pickguard is already shielded so having jumpers connecting the pots would just create a loop right thus introducing noise? Thanks in advance! Would just like to clear this one up since I'm going to do some repairs on my guitar :)

@welshchris1951 7 ай бұрын

Back in the day, when you had high street component shops like, Maplin, Radio Shack, Tandy etc. Those two parts would have cost pennies. They're still pennies individually from mail order suppliers, but you have to buy at least a minimum of 10 of each. Even then, post and packing will exceed the actual cost of the parts.

@yourmaineman580 7 ай бұрын

I miss RadioShack more than most other stores from the era I think RIP a legend 🥲

@bluwng Жыл бұрын

Is the cap in series or parallel?

@blindmac1 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@fourthlayer 4 жыл бұрын

funny how english sounds so different here in NY USA! Thank you for the vid!

@SixStringSupplies 4 жыл бұрын

fourthlayer no worries. And very true!

@richardsyoutubechannel995 3 жыл бұрын

@@SixStringSupplies hi mate great video are you on facebook?

@johnjeson3052 4 жыл бұрын

This is Dncan circuit it works well but have you tried the Kinman circuit resistor in siries with capacitor 0.0012mF and 150K

@SixStringSupplies 4 жыл бұрын

I have. i prefer the "Duncan" one but the Kinman in series is great too.

@FabioHugoFrancesconi 3 жыл бұрын

The resistor colors are brown-black-yellow!?

@julianapairs 3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible add some on-off switch (f.e. 2 way slide switch) for treble bleed?

@AdolfFauci 3 жыл бұрын

Yes of course

@richie780 4 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! Can you please do a video about the GREASE BUCKET circuit? Used in some fender models? What do they do? Can it be combined with a treble bleed? you could offer this product in your range of items? Cheers

@TheForce_Productions 4 жыл бұрын

Check BrejaToneWorks fot that circuit video, and yes, treble bleed can be combined with it. Hope it helps.

@richie780 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheForce_Productions thank you for your input!

@always12am52 4 жыл бұрын

You more or less install a small jumper loop on the 5 way which connects the neck or middle tone to the bridge. It’s mandatory as far as I’m concerned in a Strat. Nothing changes with the treble bleed once it’s installed. I highly recommend doing both the treble bleed and the bridge tone control. I personally like to control the bridge with the neck tone just because I can then tone blend in position 2 and 4.

@macauley70 Жыл бұрын

i have grease bucket and treble bleed kinman mod in my fender american special and sounds killer.. no problem

@Beizeiten78 Жыл бұрын

Is this relevant in a Les Paul that already has a “50’s wiring” setup? Like, can you get an additional benefit?

@SixStringSupplies Жыл бұрын

Nope - don't mix treble bleed with 50's wiring. Choose one or the other

@stayawakeclub6899 6 жыл бұрын

Hey there, Does it matter which way you solder the leads? (polarity)

@SixStringSupplies 6 жыл бұрын

stayawakeclub hiya - doesn’t matter unless your capacitor is polarised. 99% of caps used in guitars aren’t polarised.

@cptncanela 2 жыл бұрын

@@SixStringSupplies How do I know if it is polarised?

@TinkerToneworks 8 ай бұрын

@@cptncanelaon polarized components in general, the longer lead is the positive lead (you'd see on an LED the longer leg designates the anode). Specifically for a polarized capacitor like an electrolytic, it will be physically marked on the capacitor itself which side is positive. Regular guitar wiring doesn't use polarized components 99.9% of the time (besides the pickups ofc)

@eternallearner8185 4 жыл бұрын

Bargain next to no cost mod. Here in australia the caps and resistors to do 4 of these was about $3 . from a Jaycar store.

@MrDracolucassos 10 ай бұрын

No idea so I'll ask, do it need to be soldered in some special way? I mean if any of the components (Capacitor and resistor) are one way working? I'm pretty sure resistor is not, but not sure bout capacitor.

@TinkerToneworks 8 ай бұрын

these kinds of capacitors and resistors are not polarized, so it doesn't matter which direction you solder them in.

@caffeinalized5575 4 жыл бұрын

if i use a 500k pot, is the capacitance and resistance of the treble bleed "module" still the same as the 250k pots?

@FabioHugoFrancesconi 3 жыл бұрын

Nop ! You need a resistor of 150k for 250k and for 500k Need 300k resistor

@pizzaROX 2 жыл бұрын

@@FabioHugoFrancesconi what about 1 meg?

@FabioHugoFrancesconi 2 жыл бұрын

@@pizzaROX really... I don’t know...🤷‍♂️

@DiegoApunto 4 жыл бұрын

Would it work as well with a 130k resistor? Thank you very much.

@SixStringSupplies 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man

@lolobuggah2670 2 жыл бұрын

@@SixStringSupplies what does the resistor do?

@XscudX 4 жыл бұрын

I installed this now I get horrible grounding hum

@myjames48 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, one question about the black one on the tone control. What is it and what are the values and it's purpose? Vudeo moves to fast to get info off. Jimmy in Johannesburg.

@reggiewallace260 4 ай бұрын

Why spend up to $6 on a Orange drop capacitor (depending on your source) for this application, when a Ceramic disk or Mylar capacitor costing less that 25 cents will do just as well. After all, you're just using it as a high pass filter and using a different cap won't make the slightest bit difference. It's just a simple folks, just buy what you need. Get a 100K - 150K ohm resistor and a .001uF capacitor for your single coil pickup guitar (use a 200k-250K ohm resistor for a guitar with humbuckers). Make your own. It installs as described above and works exactly the same.