Troubleshooting Mazda RX8 Power Loss/missfire with no CEL - Voiding Warranties Ep 38

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Voiding Warranties

Voiding Warranties

7 жыл бұрын

Not working on the blue beast today. My daily driver Mazda Rx8 has sever power loss and is stalling, but there are no CEL/MIL codes, and everything seems normal. So I end up doing some Rx8 troubleshooting on this episode of Voiding Warranties. It ended up being was a bad barometric sensor, and that was enough to cripple the car, but I had to go through quite a bit of troubleshooting to get there.

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@BrownyTheGamer
@BrownyTheGamer 5 жыл бұрын
did you say daily driver in an RX8 video?
@Otani_Garage
@Otani_Garage 5 жыл бұрын
I had a similar issue where my rx8 wouldnt make any more power if i pushed the pedal further than halfway. Ran and drove normally as long as i didnt go full throttle though. I tried a ton of things and then eventually came to this and it was very helpful. Ended up getting a map sensor off a mazda 6 or millenia or something for free from pick n pull and my rx8 is back in action
@riozz5201
@riozz5201 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Cuz my Rx does the same thing and I was debating on selling
@RX-8GT
@RX-8GT 2 жыл бұрын
@@riozz5201 it could also be that the connectors are dirty, try a cleaner before buying a new one. Checking the spark plugsand wires if they haven't been changed yet
@Gmgm-sk8ds
@Gmgm-sk8ds 3 жыл бұрын
Sheet it worked! I have spent hours trying to fix this.
@idkDRuMMER96
@idkDRuMMER96 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can you tell me how your car runs with the baro sensor disconnected? I disconnected mine because I'm having similar problems with my rx8 but my car shuts off immediately after disconnecting the baro sensor. Thanks!
@stokley51
@stokley51 6 жыл бұрын
My Rx8 did the EXACT thing you are talking about in this video. I think mine might be intermittent tho, i went thru the same steps you did, cleaned out the filter, MAF, checked my intake lines etc. Still kicked a little bit, same issues after all that. Then one day, i go to take it to work....i start it up, let it warm up, engine chokes once a little bit but doesnt die, runs perfect after that. ????? then i stumble on this video, im excited to go check this out and see if it works! I'll keep everyone posted!
@malakaizachary6907
@malakaizachary6907 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh a year later u get ur rx8 running lol
@yungandyofficial1422
@yungandyofficial1422 4 жыл бұрын
How’s ur car
@darthneko5714
@darthneko5714 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if I'm having g the same problem my rx8 starts stalling after I get off the highway. But its fine when I'm driving on normal roads
@XRPVampire
@XRPVampire 3 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@evanbarnes987
@evanbarnes987 6 жыл бұрын
Your a hero. Thank you
@rx8matt
@rx8matt 5 жыл бұрын
Was the issue intermittent? And did it start rapidly or gradually worsen over time?
@robke2002
@robke2002 4 жыл бұрын
Diagnostik show misfire 2cylinder do you know how to fix?
@bagface363
@bagface363 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure this solved my problem, we will see next week
@drk-is8rs
@drk-is8rs 2 жыл бұрын
Mine has the same thing i bought the map sensor and it didnt do nothing
@ElmerRodas
@ElmerRodas 7 жыл бұрын
woooow u the best fix my problem thanks
@richardras3936
@richardras3936 5 жыл бұрын
Hi .my Rx8 won't start the throttle position show me 15% open what can i do
@lckyryn
@lckyryn 5 жыл бұрын
Holy f thanks so much !
@FORTHELIFEINTHEFACTLANE.
@FORTHELIFEINTHEFACTLANE. 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I hope this is all my problems are with the RX8 I just picked up haha!!! We went through the SAME tests. It did need 2 new coils, and all spark plugs. That was not a problem at all to get done. new air filter as well. Last owner beat the car up on gravel roads. When I came across this video.... I got really excited... So when I get a boost later today (battery is dead LOL) I'm going to see if unplugging it makes a difference. My RX8 backfires big time at lower rpm (4k and below). and doesn't like to stay running, and the rpms also jump like a spazzy bunny when I try to keep the idle around 3k.... I really hope this is it for now. I do think a rebuild may need to be considered.
@malakaizachary6907
@malakaizachary6907 4 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with u on the rebuild did u ever fix ur rx8?
@SupaPist
@SupaPist 6 жыл бұрын
You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on these rotaries. I have been having a problem with mine. I keep getting a boggy sound around 4k rpms. It then clears out and I get misfire. I’ve replaced all ignition parts. I’m stuck and don’t wanna keep throwing money at it.
@MatthewLucas80
@MatthewLucas80 5 жыл бұрын
Are you still having troubles?
@mobeenkhan7809
@mobeenkhan7809 Жыл бұрын
Same problem no solution yet
@MrOwnerxD
@MrOwnerxD 5 жыл бұрын
i have the same problem on my rx8. Would not pass 5-6k rpm. But it does stay on when i move away my foot from the pedal. Could be the same problems with coils,plugs,sensors and filters ?
@bty1471
@bty1471 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your advice with my current rx8 issue. Car was running great had new plugs coils wires. However had a small coolent leak from resivor. Forgot to put cap on radiator after adding coolent one day. Drove a few miles and car overheated. I noticed turned it off. It seemed ok after cooling off . Three days later no start. Seems like coils so I replaced them but didn't help. When it overheated is when problem started. I think.. what would be your best guess be?
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 5 жыл бұрын
Take the spark plugs out and crank it with the gas to the floor. Do that for 10 sec with a minute pause about five times then put the plugs back in and fire it up. It should start. If you find oil or gas on the plugs your probably fine. If you find coolant on the plugs or get sweet smelling white smoke after it starts then you have a blown coolant seal.
@bty1471
@bty1471 5 жыл бұрын
@@voidingwarranties8081 Thanks so much. Will give it a try
@serjhey08
@serjhey08 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I just changed the sensor u said in the video and it help thank you. But I still have a problem that it won’t past 3,000 rpms. What u think it is ?
@MarcusS103
@MarcusS103 2 жыл бұрын
Oil metering pump plug can get corrosion and cause a low power limp mode situation mine had that issue I cleaned the plug for the omp and it runs like a champ now.
@DuoScythes
@DuoScythes 6 жыл бұрын
do have any video about change spark plugs? I have a similar problem, except it idle at 500rpm inside of 1000rpm. I have to press the pedal twice as hard then normal.
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
Could be an ignition coil issue or a spark plug issue. I would check coils plugs and wires first.
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
Also here is my video on spark plug changeout, not the best but helpful none the less: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZpmh6eEnLjdZ40.html
@cjcoriz1858
@cjcoriz1858 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been having the exact same problems i am going to try this my 8 is at the mazda dealership right now and they still haven't figured out the problem. Ive replaced spark plugs wires and coils the thermostat catalytic converter both upstream and downstream o2 sensors on my own it will run good driving about an hour or 2 but after that it will lose power and whenever i come to a stop it will stall and i have to wait like 10 minutes to crank it over and start again
@mikemittelstadt8748
@mikemittelstadt8748 4 жыл бұрын
CJ Coriz did you figure it out ?
@gunfighterdrummer
@gunfighterdrummer 5 жыл бұрын
And don’t take my word for it! I can see you saying that line. Hah!
@rafaelandablo8160
@rafaelandablo8160 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question my RX8 when I drive it for a few minutes and get to stop sing I press the brake and my RX8 turn off. Can someone please tell me what can be the problem.
@yungandyofficial1422
@yungandyofficial1422 4 жыл бұрын
Rafael Andablo it can be a converter or transmission or engine problem or spark plugs or air/fuel sensor
@1stylezarsantiago129
@1stylezarsantiago129 3 жыл бұрын
Hello did you ever solve the issue with the RX8?
@matthewluna3720
@matthewluna3720 4 жыл бұрын
I got a question. I just got a mazda rx8. It has 62000 miles. I just started to experience power loss when I drive it. When I put the paddle to the metal it does not accelerate as it did when I got it. My dad thinks it is the fuel pump. Should I just take it to a dealership? I do not want to destroy the car thinking I know what to do.
@MegaJarass
@MegaJarass 4 жыл бұрын
It could be a bad fuel pump, as the series 1 RX-8’s have a TSB for it. Could also be bad ignition, dirty MAF and intake, vacuum leak, etc. Recommend checking out this thread from rx8club: www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/rx-8-symptoms-causes-249529/
@gwamakaayoub1522
@gwamakaayoub1522 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, today I was driving my Rx8 and i try to redline it,but when I press accelerator pedal to the ground it automatically shift at 6 rpm, is it normal?? Second I was out of fuel when I go to fuel station then I use an empty bottle of water of about 1.5 liters to put some gas ⛽️ and put it on my car, it start well I drive it to gas station and put more gas on it, I continue drive it then the car turn off after 2 minutes when I was on my way home... I let it idle for some minute, then I turn it on, it’s works after trying more than 2 times, when it work it start misfire, although I get home safe with it, so what cause engine to misfire?
@fortunefed8719
@fortunefed8719 3 жыл бұрын
well your first problem is that you're driving an automatic
@RX-8GT
@RX-8GT 2 жыл бұрын
@@fortunefed8719 😂 i couldn't help but laugh
@TheTerrorbull1
@TheTerrorbull1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, my rx8 drives fine cold, but as soon as it heats up and I try push the rpm above 5000 it makes a strange noise and has reduced power, I unplugged the barometric sensor and ill be driving it tomorrow. ill let you know how it goes. I've been chasing this problem for a while now, and it keeps on getting worse and worse. I've changed spark plugs, fuel pump and had my fuel injectors tested and checked spark from coils and they are all fine. I'm hoping its not a compression problem.
@blinddreamer325
@blinddreamer325 6 жыл бұрын
Terrorbull did you figure out the problem?
@TheTerrorbull1
@TheTerrorbull1 6 жыл бұрын
Blind Dreamer when i unplug the sensor it has more power and runs a lot richer. My engine still has a loose bolt sound to it sometimes but still has reasonable power. I got my compression checked, it was above about 88/95 psi, above the 75 minimum but not in the 110 - 130 recommended range. Rebuild time is coming :(
@blinddreamer325
@blinddreamer325 6 жыл бұрын
Terrorbull yeah same here thank you for sharing!
@jrdod3467
@jrdod3467 4 жыл бұрын
That bolt noise go away with giveing it gas
@oscara3717
@oscara3717 Жыл бұрын
@@jrdod3467 did you figured it out?
@tray-uo5wd
@tray-uo5wd 2 жыл бұрын
Can you just leave it unplugged ?
@rickyconnelly2615
@rickyconnelly2615 3 жыл бұрын
what is the map
@yuwish6320
@yuwish6320 6 жыл бұрын
Problem sounds like a bad Mass Flow Sensor. Bad sensor signal would cause exactly the problems described. Holy crap that air filter, wtf. How long has that been in there? Should probably replace that nasty thing. Good find, though. RX8club is great.
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
+Yu Wish Air filter has been in there since 2010 ish. So too long lol. I went down the MAF sensor route first, but having a spare car to swap parts makes troubleshooting easy.
@kaizousha5531
@kaizousha5531 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because your engine bay looks like a garden, there's mods growing on your battery terminals
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 4 жыл бұрын
Mods? Or moss?
@nestornarvaez8416
@nestornarvaez8416 4 жыл бұрын
please help my rx8 20205 have no spark
@sneedlewoods829
@sneedlewoods829 3 жыл бұрын
Buy some spark plugs
@krisbeyer1970
@krisbeyer1970 6 жыл бұрын
when i unpluged me air thin my rx8 died out would that still be it
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
+kris baer could be. The engine will probably die if you unplug the sensor while it is running, but if it starts and runs great after that, you have found the problem.
@krisbeyer1970
@krisbeyer1970 6 жыл бұрын
when it worms up it will not stay running what do i have to look for now . i am getting feed up with it
@krisbeyer1970
@krisbeyer1970 6 жыл бұрын
when the car worms up it runs bad and hard to start and will not stay running at stops
@MatthewLucas80
@MatthewLucas80 5 жыл бұрын
Are you still having troubles
@Salsa-Lizano
@Salsa-Lizano 5 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewLucas80 i'm having the same issue
@essexrotary1540
@essexrotary1540 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you need to realign your fuel pump, pictures at 7:08 the small arrow on the top of the pump assembly should be pointing toward the front of the car.
@qinnixdeleon5396
@qinnixdeleon5396 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the samll arrow? Thankyou
@SilverShadowLP
@SilverShadowLP 6 жыл бұрын
did it now work? could you solve the issue? did the new Barometic Sensor Worked?
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, solved the problem instantly.
@srterickvlogs9951
@srterickvlogs9951 5 жыл бұрын
My 2004 rx8 won’t crank it make a bee noise
@srterickvlogs9951
@srterickvlogs9951 5 жыл бұрын
It won’t turn over I need help
@jamiefalk4883
@jamiefalk4883 5 жыл бұрын
Fuel pump? Mine slowly stopped running. Eventually stopped trying to get going. Put a fuel pump in and it was all fine
@RX-8GT
@RX-8GT 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the fuel pump
@johnsobery
@johnsobery 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a junkyard around there. You might luck out and find one there a bit cheaper.
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 7 жыл бұрын
+john sobery Got it used off ebay for $25. If it fails again I'll go for new.
@brjesus99
@brjesus99 7 жыл бұрын
Voiding Warranties some of the eBay mass air flow sensor will still cause a lean code you need a catch can or use the tsb from Mazda to move some lines towards the back of the intake
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 7 жыл бұрын
+J Bravo The MAF is fine. It was the Baro sensor.
@jameselliott3446
@jameselliott3446 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck dude thank you your amazing saved me so much money
@luismontemayor5713
@luismontemayor5713 4 жыл бұрын
Probably your map sensor
@markflint2629
@markflint2629 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Dirty water sucked in from the air cleaner maybe clean it with K&N cleaner ?
@yoyou1150
@yoyou1150 7 жыл бұрын
Juste by looking the milles you got. 2 strock engine reabuilt around 60k milles
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 7 жыл бұрын
Good guess, actually the current engine has around 80K. The first engine was overheated by the previous owner and then let to rust in it's own coolant for months. The current engine was bought used and has had 2 stroke premixed with gas for the 40k miles it's been with me, and is still strong.
@jrdod3467
@jrdod3467 4 жыл бұрын
Its not a 2 stroke lmfao
@khoojunfei6364
@khoojunfei6364 7 жыл бұрын
It is timing problem..easy to solve
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 7 жыл бұрын
+Khoo Junfei It was a barometric sensor problem and a real pain to find.
@GamerDock
@GamerDock 5 жыл бұрын
@@voidingwarranties8081 I am having similar issues. Did you end up just replacing the sensor?
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 5 жыл бұрын
@@GamerDock Yes, pull the plug on the sensor first and see if the major issues go away (it will cause a CEL with the plug pulled) and if that solves the major symptoms replace the sensor.
@GamerDock
@GamerDock 5 жыл бұрын
Voiding Warranties thanks a ton! Any chance you could point me in the direction of where the sensor is located on the car?
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 5 жыл бұрын
@@GamerDock Yeah, passenger side on the air pump mounting bracket. Looks like a sensor with a cut vacuum line.
@beriana576
@beriana576 6 жыл бұрын
what is the name of sensor ?
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
+beriana barometric sensor. I think some literature mistakenly calls it a manifold air sensor.
@beriana576
@beriana576 6 жыл бұрын
I unplug the sensor but still loss the power and stalling , I changed my spark plugs too and still the same . can you give me advise plz
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 6 жыл бұрын
+beriana ignition Coils are the other likely problem. If they are good my next step would be to clean the MAF.
@luismontemayor5713
@luismontemayor5713 4 жыл бұрын
Its called the map sensor
@carlreid6727
@carlreid6727 4 жыл бұрын
Mazda rx8 start for 2 minute then cut off an wouldn't start back
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 4 жыл бұрын
That's a closed loop problem, could be o2 sensor related. The car starts in open loop with some sensors not used then it slams it into closed loop after a time delay and the 02 sensor warmed up. Normally this is bumpless and not noticeable. If it won't restart for a while after I would start by unplugging both o2 sensors and see if it runs.
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 4 жыл бұрын
Also check water temperature reading. I remember something like that with a failed coolant temperature, but it's been quite a while.
@luismontemayor5713
@luismontemayor5713 4 жыл бұрын
Chek your maf ..sensor Start the car and disconnect the maf sensor if it stays running thats your problem
@cenmike82
@cenmike82 6 жыл бұрын
Check compression
@yoyou1150
@yoyou1150 7 жыл бұрын
You need to reabuilt the engine side seal and epex seal
@voidingwarranties8081
@voidingwarranties8081 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for playing the home game, but that is not the correct answer. The correct answer is MAP sensor.
@miguelramz1604
@miguelramz1604 4 жыл бұрын
No is not the map its correct rebuilt the motor my mechanics found the problems on the seals that whaybthat happens
@RX-8GT
@RX-8GT 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelramz1604 the only right way to rebuilt the motor is if you know for a fact that you already did a compression test and it's low.
@krisbeyer1970
@krisbeyer1970 6 жыл бұрын
you dont think its the ecu it runs good tell it worms up them
@mjt-ew8rs
@mjt-ew8rs 5 жыл бұрын
you are a better tech than this. you of all people should know not to ignore a dtc. a lean code is often a bad MAF. k&n filters are known for taking out maf sensors. simply unplugging does not always work, you have a good test unit. don't be a parts replacer. use your obd. I would expect you to find a bad maf sensor, the load value is off or the altitude compensation is off, often a baro sensor. both are often in the maf. put a maf in the car, or baro. I have seen this problem several times
@chicho1578
@chicho1578 3 жыл бұрын
Bro the amount of cringe 😬 smh 🤦🏻‍♂️
@jamesmirfin7480
@jamesmirfin7480 4 жыл бұрын
Talk too much with out giving the details on what you have done,
@mikep3412
@mikep3412 5 жыл бұрын
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