aye, totally agree with you. Shinnok is soo overrated, Quan Chi seems to be a bigger threat (comparing to Shinnok) in post-Soviet part of the world Shinnok is literally called Grandpa

Hey true underdawg can u tell me of spawn has a teleport move

Or make a vid on all character that have a teleport move

Shinnok isn't as overrated as Shao Khan (from MK 9 and 11), he didn't do anything until Aftermath, when nothing mattered anymore, and got successfully betrayed by Shang Tsung btw, he avoided that in the original timeline

To be fair, they made Quan Chi to be an absolute mastermind.

That was for real corny😂

Your comment is sad really

@@Mikey-em8hs Just like Shinnok in MKX

@@liampatterson2946 Yep

@@Matt_Underwood Facts.

Haha do not worry, she already had her own video

I like her more than blaze

What a shit tier comment lol

@@SilkyLew blaze at least had an intimidation factor. Kronika us just a bald woman who makes other people do her dirty work despite being the most powerful character. Blaze is set up as the most powerful character of Armageddon and you only fight other people because everyone's scrambling to get to him.

@@soulcyclone360 hmmm, if eveyone wants to fight him, is he that intimidating? Lol. I'm just enjoyed bosses story more than blaze

A very clever move, considering almost nobody survived

He’s the smartest villain he’s just lost because how else can you stop an evil ELDER GOD from destroying everyone and everything INCLUDING SHAO KAHN but by having plot armor always have him being weakened not at his full power OR having an excuse to be beings who while may not be able to defeat shao Kahn because he is not a god,so cassie and Johnnys powers have no effect on shao Kahn which is why they lost but their powers can take down beings much stronger than shao Kahn which is elder gods shinnok to be specific it’s ironic how it works. It’s like being gifted with the power to defeat darth sidious in Star Wars who is stronger than darth vadar but that same power cannot defeat a weaker darth vadar it’s pretty much the same concept so it’s not to say that Cassie johnnys loss to shao Kahn was really that bad because he IS still extremely powerful and Shinnok being an elder god is really the only one stronger than shao Kahn but like I said how else can you defeat someone stronger than shao Kahn than by having plot armor by having the power to defeat him specifically or weaken him as they did in the original timeline. Shinnnok rarely is at full power. Shinnok outlived his minion,Onaga. Shinnok also outlived raiden and shao Kahn and liu Kang and shujinko tavern daegon……. And all the other villains and heroes……People severely underestimate both how smart he is which alone makes him very dangerous but also his power. You can be physically weak and yet be a much stronger being look at palpatine and darth vadar you can’t tell me palpatine isn’t physically weak and yet he doesn’t care as he knows true power is not physical like darth mauls but all in magic. In mk thjs still holds true with shinnok Beint stronger than Kahn and magic>brute force like Kahn onags. my point is proven when shao Kahn thinks he can physically overpower Shang tsung and kill him (as he always believes with anyone and everyone even this it’s not really true he’s just arrogant) Shang tsung immediatelt laid shao Kahn on his feet and back and killed him with magic effectively one shotting and killing Kahn with magic alone. Kahn’s single physical attack or hammer nvr did that in one attack. Shinnok is shown to instantly kill people with magic or by thinking it alone in mk4 and while some endings were not cannon it doesn’t matter it’s the point they did it for you to realize how powerful shinnok is he doesn’t even have ti move or fight in order to kill you and this may seem like an outdated concept that died in mk4 ending but mk11 brought it back with kronica and Shang tsung yet again.

@@fernandoenamorado2480 You didn't look at the MK9 ending for Johnny Cage after for beating Shao Khan. Johnny Cage becomes really powerful. The MK9 writers took this non-canonical ending and made it Canonical in MK10 for Cassie and Johnny. They kind of had to as only Johnny and Sonya lived in MK9. So, yeah Shhinok is great in MK10, but MK 9 told you Johnny was going to kick his but in MK10.

Guy its like the Title of Elder God has no meaning, how you gone introduce the biggest baddest Elder God of them ALL and then have hi be humiliated by a new girl with green hue, i honestly dont know at this point which studio did Shinok badly, Midway or NetherRealm

he is the "devil" of MK because he kill Lucifer, the original ruler of netherealm, and take his title. thats in mk lore. but judging by the story mode... shinnok prove to us all this time that satan/lucifer its just a cry baby push-over after all, but if you look to real life villains...ITS MAKE FUCKIN SENSE because of adolf hitler (he was weak as fuck, dont have super powers or godly abililties, he was a joke , but he was smart and manipulative and becasuse of that he led millions of followers to strike his own armageddon in world war 2.) all that im saying is that villains sometimes dont need to be strong or badass, just need to use their brains to work and do a "evil plan". i know thats stuff is cliche as fuck, but thanks to shinnok and real-life, its works fine

No no. I really like Shinnok as a character. In MK4 the dude was chewing scenery like no one's business and in MKX he gets the best scenes until he's defeated by the script... I'm not gonna blame the character for shitty writing.

Mk7* or mka

Yeah but Raiden said not today

Raiden responding with "Not today!" And zapping him is among my top 5 favorite raiden moments, Alongside 1.i must consult with the elder gods 2.his mk1 ending 3.not today! 4.his gibberish electric fly 5.every line in mk4

@@Astrendd either works.

@@Astrendd Im sure its armageddon when shinok bind raiden on the ground with skull arms

Were you also kinda hyped when he was teased in mk9, and actually making the mistake of thinking that We might finally get a worthy successor to shao kahn

Quan Chi looked ten times more badass.

We can’t blame Shinnok for that though. Shao Kahn had 3 games(MK 1 mentioned Shao Kahn) to establish his lore, and then Shao Kahn had 2 games to instill fear to players. In MK 2 Shao Kahn was very scary to fight, MK 3 he wasn’t as scary because every character could combo cheese him, but one missed combo can lead to your death by his hands. Then even though Shao Kahn was missing in MK 4 and Deadly Alliance, his story and lore was still being developed for Deception, while Shinnok’s story and lore stopped after MK 4 until he reappeared in MK Armageddon. This is not even mention the story and the fear that Shao Kahn instilled again in MK 9.

Di you want a pie!!!? Are you gay!!?

@@its_Criminal1 I always thought he was saying “Not Today!”

@@joshbruh6584 are you gay is funnier but any option is still funny af

Explain

​@@joshbruh6584 Raiden said not today

Lmao do white ppl get this reference?? 😂

You've just unlocked some great memories 😂😂 I gotta go back and watch that movie again.

Bruh, The Temptation reference works too good here. I'm dead. 🤣

YES!!!! I see you're a person of culture! 😉 Seriously though that description is PERFECT and had me dying laughing! Your comment is criminally underrated! ROFL

@@LiftedMike no

i dont really see him losing to the cages as huge L's only minor L's cuz they are from a lineage of warriors bred specifically to defeat elder gods its kinda like saying superman is a joke cuz krypotnite takes him out.

@@Crim-kun I am sorry, but that felt like a Bullshit excuse to give the Cages the spotlight in the MKX story. I really do get it, don't get me wrong, but I do not like the direction of the Green energy of the Cages.

@@Matt_Underwood understandable. i like that cages had that lineage but its the execution that makes it fail. with better set up it im sure they could make it work but nrs goes to the mcu school of making villains into jokes

@@Crim-kun regardless people would still complain about it, while praising Shao Kahn, who got his ass beat repeatedly and had to poison the last ruler of Outworld to even get the throne.

Johnny didn't completly defeated him, because shinnok got up but cassie defeating him was complee bulshit

(Back when Cetrion was revealed in MK11) Me: Finally! An Elder God being playable. Shinnok: Am I a joke to- Me: Yes Shinnok. You are nothing more than a bad joke.

I honestly had high hopes for shinok after beating mk9 but when the time came for Shinok to put up or shut up in mkx, my guy didnt bring the fight, there was such a gravity about his tease in mk9 but ultimately he was disappointing and to make matters worse he is an Elder God, i feel like he is fading into Mediocreness kinda like raiden and sub zero.

@Nick Good point

The thing is, we already have Quan Chi.

His variation with the skeleton arms are hilarious

It wouldn’t matter, if shinnok would have actually joined the battle he would have died by the hands of Shao Kahn, who somehow managed to get away from Onaga(I’m assuming Shao Kahn killed Onaga again because there’s no way Onaga would allow him to escape), killed the remaining combatants, killed Blaze(who consumed the power of the Elder Gods) and then killed Raiden. Shinnok was wise to send a clone, he wouldn’t have been able to do much. One of questions I had about after Armageddon was that now Shao Kahn pretty much became the new One Being, I wonder how long it would have been until Shao Kahn discovered there was one last elder god he can consume, Shinnok.

Cassie still feels like she was given unearned victories. The debut fight for her and the other new generation saw them all get their asses kicked by Sub-Zero, and they had been fooled into thinking he had gone bad and were cutting loose against him while he was pulling punches. Yet later, Cassie defeats Liu Kang. Then again, all the Revenants are cannon fodder no matter how many fights they won in the last game.

Johnny is a martial artist 1st and actor 2nd

Shao Kahn said it himself. He schemed all the time because he was “worthless in battle”.

I mean, that mkx beginning sequence said otherwise but he’s nerfed for the plot

@@jesuspernia8031 yeah, such irony given it's coming from a man who had to poison Onaga to get his throne and snapped Kung Lao's neck from behind. Shao really has no room to talk about Shinnok scheming.

@@nabilahmed579 well he actually nearly takes over earthrrealm, until he was beaten by Johnny's daughter, who was again from a bloodline of warriors who found a way to kill elder gods.

Johnny cage didn't beat shinnok bc in video games the fight doesn't determine the winner,it's the cutscene that does and after u play as Johnny,shinnok is back on his feet and raiden absorbs shinnok in the amulet

He was really fun in MKX, way better than previous appearances. Unfortunately, they just don't want to write him to be a consistent credible threat. He's always just a necessary stepping stone to Dark Raiden.

In your opinion which studio do you think had a better grasp on the character, Midway or Netherrealm

@@fan8157 Hard to say. They both had some good concepts here and there but they both made him very cheap.

@@Refining1 yeah maybe its a mortal kombat curse that awesome characters are ultimately made lousy pushovers, my heart breaks everytime i think of subzero and kotal kahn

"Catholic preist mixed with a clown" 💀

Except Cetrion is an even bigger joke.

Why isn't she the final boss in MK11? If she appears to clean up, what Shinnok fucked up, and follows her own bad intentions and interests which could lead Earthrealm into Chaos during the fight between Liu Kang and Raiden etc., I would accept her. But no, instead we get another elder God, bigger joke than Shinnok and we get a titan, never mentioned before in the mk-universe, who can do everything but can be killed by everyone. Kronika had to be the final boss in a MK Armageddon 2, where everyone is in there - if we get another MK game where "everyone is here".

Raiden : am I joke to you? Fujin : Am i joke to you?

Well you can always play Aftermath, choose Shang Tsung's ending and pretend that Liu Kang's ending doesn't exist. I do that

Deadly alliance is the closest

Was literally asking myself the same question when I saw the title/thumbnail, he literally only had 2 chapters in MKX and was defeated by fxckin Cassie

I mean overrated by fans who hype him up, when in reality he's accomplished nothing

@@TrueUnderDawgGaming he over captured edenia in mk4 killed the other gods, manipulated daegon then punked him later on when he raised his voice on him beside mkx shinnok had a good run

@@RinLSD even in mkx he did good he wasn't even beaten by Johnny cage just knocked down

@@TrueUnderDawgGaming Probably survived Armaggeddon if we count his Armaggeddon Ending, as it doesn't contradict the events that took place.

That’s true. Shao Kahn didn’t even feel intimidating, let alone a good fighter.

in MK9 he wasn't a complete dumbass, at least.

@@howaboutsomesoyfood He still tells Kitana about Shang and Mileena when he could easily mind control her. Still not like Mk11 but Shao is dumb in this new timeline

I used to think Onaga was strongest bcuz in his intro game at THAT exact point in time during deception arc he WAS the strongest but that was revealed that he was only so powerful bcuz of having possession and power of all of the kamidogu. But when he was defeated by shujinko,he was sent to netherrealm where he was just normal base Onaga which wasn’t actually revealed in story mode in deception as he was super powered up from the intro throughout the whole deception story but in Armageddon after his defeat it’s revealed he no longer has that power and is just Onaga the dragon king,as he was bfr his death w.o any major power ups and from there he was killed by shao Kahn sadly in armageddons story. He was more powerful than shao Kahn bfr his original death but with battle and soul absorbing shao Kahn far surpassed the shao Kahn that took orders from Onaga. This was made clear bcuz of his victory over onags which neither one was powered up. But in netherrealm Onaga met a villain that he knew he was NOT the boss of like he was with shao Kahn originally. The dragon king was out of his place of rule which was outworld BEFORE shao Kahn came into his own reign. Anyway onags met shinnok and he was scared of Shinnok and agreed to serve him. Shinnok is the one who approached Onaga offering to restore onagas power in outworld in exchange for onags helping shinnok regain his own power. That is a bold move unless of course you are stronger than Onaga which nobody was except shao Kahn and shinnok. Shinnok is the smartest villain if he was worried about onags he wouldn’t offer to restore him to power if it meant restoring shinnoks own power thst only shows me shinnok did not fear Onaga but rather saw him as his inferior. Why? Because shinnok would never dare help anyone who posed even a small amount of threat to his own power. Shinnok himself was weak in Armageddon’s story after his own mk4 defeat kahns mk3 defeat and onagas deception defeat but yet onags beleived he had a chance to kill Kahn and he himself said he wanted to kill blaze,gsin blazes power and only then would he battle Shinnok again. He didn’t have plan to battle Kahn with blazes power that only tells me that Onaga himself believed Shinnok is stronger than shao Kahn bcuz onaga didn’t feel the need to attain blazes power for Kahn’s defeat which he failed at but yet Onaga didn’t believe he could defeat shinnok UNLESS he had blazes power. Also Onaga himself is NOT one to take orders from anyone unless he KNOWS he can’t win. He certainly didn’t fear shao Kahn even though Kahn ended up proving Onaga wrong that Kahn had surpassed Onaga after onagas original death. So yeah due to armageddons official story of events it means defeated villains after their mk3/mk4/mk6 defeats proved Shinnok>Shao Kahn>Onaga. In the battle of Armageddon shinnok was not the real shinnok.in deception THAT version of onag would have definitely defeated shao Kahn and shinnok from armageddons timeline where they’re all weak after their defeats but Armageddon Kahn was pretty powerful. Do I think Armageddon blaze was stronger than Onaga kamidogu? I don’t believe so. Shinnok is naturally the most powerful main villain if you don’t give any of them any boosts but then again,if you count shao Kahn with a massive soul boost in mk3/mk9 ending and onags with kamidogu then it’s only fair to count shinnok with kamidogu SUCCESSFULY MERGED WITH the power of the one being from the animated movie bcuz Shinnok took what Onaga did in deception and actually succeeded in merging them but a step further and attainted the one beings power directly this I believe is the strongest villain at any point. Onaga. Point being if ppl want to compare a kamidogu powered Onaga or soul boosted Kahn its only fair to compare a kamidogu boosted shinnok in which case he now far surpassed Onaga kamidogu. Onaga has the power of the kamidogu individually but shinnok has the power of the kamidogu MERGED into one to release the one being and successfully absorbed the one beings power within his own body. I don’t think even onags and Kahn are strong enough to contain the one beings power within their own body’s. Shinnok in his base full power is proven to be able to war against all the elder gods in his story. Shao Kahn needed the massive soul boost Amp in mk9 but shinnok had no crutch like that.point being thst shinnok is probably the only villain who is naturally strong enough as an elder god who almost defeated them all in the original story only he can absorb the one beings power rather than the one being absorbing shinnok and his body. Again if we count boosted versions of Kahn and Onaga it’s only fair to count shinnok boosted too in which he took it a step further than kamidogu Onaga in power. I’m sure a kamidogu Onaga and a blaze Kahn would defeat shinnok without him having any power ups but if shinnok himself has the one being power up then it’s game over for all of them. Shinnok is Onaga superior in mk story and made a fool of Kahn. I didn’t want to believe a base shao was stronger than Onaga base but sadly Kahn was the victor of their battle in Armageddon. However I do believe the same Kahn who defeated onags in Armageddon would defeat shinnoks clone but not the real shinnok

No he’s not he got defeated by Cassie whereas shao got defeated by the champion and a powerful elder god buffed raiden. In mk11 I dunno what that shao was but I’m going with the mk9 shao.

OK so this Sparks the question, who would win? Kk in a wheelchair Or shinnok in a wheelchair

@@phobia_master-lord_of_early Well KK still has his arms

Oh god i made a joke now it's Sonichaxd vs Nephilim jokes

Well, in mk11 aftermath you play mostly with the villains.

@@jomnix which is why i enjoyed it even though story wise it was a drug trip

He is the best!

You're not alone, he's a great big bad imo and I mean I know his character depth doesn't reach any further than "I am the God of death, destroyer of all!" But that's kinda the point.. he's the devil of Mortal Kombat. Also I've always loved his signature skeletal hands that were as iconic as Scorpion's "GET OVER HERE!" and I LOVED his mkx designs.

He's great but NRS make him sound so generic.

He is my favorite villain of the netherrealm era of mortal kombat ,i can say nothing about the midway era i only play mk9,mkx and mk11

It's LORD Shinnok to you peasent

Shang Tsung: Hold my souls.

Onaga

Rugal

Deagon

@@lewisaino who is that?

Hell yeah! Give us Dark Raiden and give him full chapter ffs! He have such big potential as character!!!

I disagree with that. Cetrion is a beast and powerhouse.

@@onagaali2024 well obviously she’s a powerhouse she’s a goddess lol. She was still extremely poorly done even one of the developers posted about how he was upset with how she turnt out.

Ur watching it right now

Kronika is the lamest villain

@@yermaw2195 IK I said it as a joke

BecUs in normal mode he’s easy as hell but if you set the difficulty to very hard/hardest it’s a totally different boss battle lol

Basically have everyone die but himself

I have a full video on Kronika as "The Worst Boss"

The Shinnok that went to the pyramid was a clone.

@@Holanda_ and? He was able to scheme in mk9

Exactly

He is supposed to be an elder God. He should be stronger than Shao Kahn himself but that isn't the case.

@@theretrogamingnerd3316 exactly.

Yeah it was all an act

I like Underdawg, but he should check his facts before recording.

@@arturdabrowski3976 He really should have.

I found what UnderDawg was thinking of. Read the edit on my first comment.

Johnny's bio from Armageddon outlines him tracking Shinnok time thanks to his time being dead just before, kicking his ass, Shinnok teleports away, and Johnny just calls him a coward. So canonically yeah, he ran like baby.

Havik and Hotaru too