Corwin, Jesse are joined by special guests Poc and Julia to discuss some of the most recent NHL drafts, how they have shaped the landscape of the current NHL and how each draft could have changed with hindsight.
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@dvotzmusiccompilationsandc56475 ай бұрын
The fact that Dallas got Robertson, Heiskanen, and Oettinger in the same draft is insane
@obscurereference62985 ай бұрын
might be the best draft class for one team ever
@jakubjohnson67415 ай бұрын
True. Let's see if they can win a cup with them.
@FinnishAmericanOnePieceFan4 ай бұрын
@@obscurereference6298up there with 1989 red wings draft class
@mchaseross132 ай бұрын
Thomas Harley, Wyatt Johnston, Logan Stankoven, and Mavrik Bourque are all looking like steals too. Excellent drafting by Jim Nill over the last several years.
@obscurereference62982 ай бұрын
no arguments here @@mchaseross13
@greedo95925 ай бұрын
Brady Tkachuk over Quinn Hughes was absolutely insane by Julia lol
@ryaneldred555 ай бұрын
Putting him over either of Hughes or Dahlin is insane to me.
@olivierpeartnoy5 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of how overrated B Tkachuk is. He's a very good player but some people think he's so much better than he is I don't get it
@Krameerf5 ай бұрын
as a sens fan hes actually really good for the type of player he is @@olivierpeartnoy
@trevgordon4875 ай бұрын
Brady is a better hockey player, better for the team than any other player on that list. Easily the most important to a team. It’s a Torontonian answer to want Quinn over Brady, so I understand where that thought comes from. But yeah Quinn is having a great start to the season. Re-draft, Brady is the answer.
@olivierpeartnoy5 ай бұрын
@@trevgordon487 See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Tkachuk is a great player but picking him over Hughes or Dahlin is mind-boggling to me
@eliasr40975 ай бұрын
I just think Jesper Bratt at least should have been mentioned for the 2016 redraft, my man was originally chosen as the 162nd pick and is definately one in the top 10 of that draft
@jakemichalowicz14035 ай бұрын
That’s what I was sayin. Can not believe he didn’t get the riser nod
@jaybob58575 ай бұрын
He should have been the top riser for sure, I was going to ask why he wasn't mentioned
@Aidan_minotii5 ай бұрын
Ikr, rn he’s a first round player
@thart13385 ай бұрын
Why was Quinn Hughes being one such a debate? Dude is clearly the best in his class.
@dushyantbhangu44095 ай бұрын
They are a toronto media company, they rarely watch anything out west
@LETZGONHLdraft5 ай бұрын
Dahlin is on pace for: 16-51-67 Points, 156 Hits, 160 Blocks.
@matthewsmith22375 ай бұрын
@@LETZGONHLdraftyeah but his team might not make the playoffs so until they’re clearly in or it’s at the end of the season and people are taking a look at his stats he won’t get enough votes
@warshawgameshd34325 ай бұрын
@@LETZGONHLdraft Quinn Hughes is on pace for: 30-93-123 Points I won't even mention the others.
@MSmith-cp1tz5 ай бұрын
These guys originally had the Canucks pick Keller over Fox. They just didn't put much thought into the Canucks
@MrKohulann305 ай бұрын
julia: (proceeds to list every single qualifier to be a franchise cornerstone when describing quinn hughes) also julia: "i just think tkachuk is that guy you build a team around cuz he just feeeels like a captain"
@Mediumreginald5 ай бұрын
Sorry you can’t admit she’s right
@MrKohulann305 ай бұрын
@@Mediumreginald Hughes is the leading hart and Norris trophy candidate rn and tkachuk hasn't even passed 90 points and isn't even the best player on his own team sorry that you're delusional
@dana1020835 ай бұрын
@Tedmetal666 facts and emotions can all be right lol😅
@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa3695 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with her tbh. If you’re building a Stanley cup caliber team, Brady makes a lot of sense
@MrKohulann305 ай бұрын
@@Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa369 bro the senators have never made the playoffs with brady, at least quinn has had a run
@Vishal6045 ай бұрын
In Quinn Hughes first two years he was already breaking records on a bad team, and he continues to make new ones VS Powers, hard to image he'll be better than Hughes in his peek
@sambirtwistle69565 ай бұрын
The chaos without DZ there to herd these cats is PALPABLE
@KrillTheThrill975 ай бұрын
What a surprise, no Jake Ottinger for the 2017 draft for Corwin lmao
@johnbuisman74645 ай бұрын
Good job on the consistency folks! I'm proud of you guys. Also, Corwin: "What is a defenseman but a Goalie with a different stick?"
@alexandregiroux37375 ай бұрын
When even 5-8 years later we can't get a real consensus on those top 5 lists from passionate fans, imagine how hard it is to rank them when they are 18 years old. Drafts are something else but that's why I'm enjoying them so much.
@whitneysmiltank5 ай бұрын
17:43 The discussion between Julia and Jesse about Tkachuk vs Hughes was amazing.
@Cedisdead5 ай бұрын
How someone can take Brady over Quinn and Dahlin is just crazy
@naedot.97795 ай бұрын
@@Cedisdeadi'd even argue svech over brady lol
@nicholaslouie75905 ай бұрын
As a Canucks fan 2016 draft was rough, I would’ve loved McAvoy on the team. 2017 & 2018 draft though, we struck gold. The Quinn Hughes disrespect is kind of crazy, but it’s your redraft so I’m not going to judge.
@Gufrion375 ай бұрын
2016 biggest riser HAS TO BE Jesper Bratt
@jaybob58575 ай бұрын
He went in the 6th rd!!!
@CanadianBongRipper5 ай бұрын
Robertson ahead of Heiskanen is crazy. Brady Tkachuk over Quinn Hughes is insanity! Wouldn't have Brady in my top 3
@obscurereference62985 ай бұрын
THIS
@eliaminator23135 ай бұрын
McTavish getting disrespected here hes so good shouldve stayed 3rd to Anaheim at least imo
@gwalker48035 ай бұрын
Nah bro what are you talking about? Obviously a goalie who's never played a game in the show is a much better pick.
@AtomicAmigo5 ай бұрын
Was really hoping to see Axel Sandin-Pellikka as a riser in that final draft class. Dude is on pace for an all time great SHL season for a Dman, but I cant blame them for not having eyes on that league.
@limpano14555 ай бұрын
him and perreult were def my picks for riser
@jeremylizotte89925 ай бұрын
Good defensemen are way more important now than ever especially with the speed and skill of todays game.... they are like point guards on basketball teams. They drive every play and put up the most minutes on each team. Teams can have amazing forwards and still lose games. It's hard to beat teams with amazing defensemen.
@tiger58695 ай бұрын
The Wild have been really good at drafting which is great news since we haven't won a game in three weeks
@jeremeymcdude5 ай бұрын
The Wild would be better at Drafting if our former coach had actually used our top draft picks actively. Best players this year so far have been young players with the exception of Kap and Boldy.
@kkacperowski5 ай бұрын
damn, big diss to hischier. Hes a cornerstone. two way complete player.
@sarahtranfo5 ай бұрын
That entire 2016 top 5 re-draft is American - unreal class
@TM-qj4yr5 ай бұрын
Hello these people are just pod caster not real nhl experts.
@leo1fun5 ай бұрын
Raymond has started the season a bit slow while Larkin and Cat were lighting it up, but ever since Cat cooled off, he's been the main offensive weapon for the team along with Larkin. Last year he had his sophomore slump but honestly I think this year he'll have a 65+ point season and he's not even playing PP1 most of the time.
@midgetplant2815 ай бұрын
What about Jake Oettinger for 2017?? I think he’s more impactful than Hischier at that #5 spot. That would also be cool cause then it’s three stars players that would crack the top 5 and imagine if it happened; the Canucks would have Demko and Oettinger 👀 nasty
@mobailey66665 ай бұрын
so disappointed in you corwin. no team should be disappointed in getting Nico. Selke nominee last year, captain, reliable, the best guy all around.
@cross27hunter5 ай бұрын
Right! Elite 2 way player who can get 80 points a season (I think more) How are you going to be disappointed
@joegeyster20965 ай бұрын
Swayman and Oettinger not at least being mentioned is criminal. No goalie love
@PhilippeLetangPoirier3 ай бұрын
Jessy talking down on slaf ,bet you are eating your socks now seeing him explode offensively lol
@AceMatthew254145 ай бұрын
Kaiden Guhle is severely underrated.
@silencz15 ай бұрын
He needs pp time
@kevinwong36725 ай бұрын
Which shouldn't be hard to do. Just take anderson out of pp1. Just do 3 forward and 2 d.
@bradgerthoffer28035 ай бұрын
It's scary as a penguins fan realizing we haven't gotten many early draft selections and we are gonna be rebuilding in the coming years
@harmangill75095 ай бұрын
It's not that scary. It's fun when you start hitting on new players and they start developing chemistry.
@canesfan15265 ай бұрын
Penguins should have tanked for a year just to get a top prospect. Gonna need a Blackhawks level tank after syd goes
@obscurereference62985 ай бұрын
why tf is it scary? there's like 8 teams with cups the last 20 years and you have 3.
@MuhammadZegras5 ай бұрын
I think the 3 cups and watching Crosby, Malkin, and letang on your favorite team should hold you over for a while
@joeyrikley-krindle85355 ай бұрын
Toronto media talking about the Habs is so mind boggling, it's hard to watch
@austinmatthews31735 ай бұрын
2017, Jake Oettinger isn’t even an honourable mention 👀
@neitzey59595 ай бұрын
love corwin but couldn’t be more wrong on the scorers>#1 defensemen take, anyone can score goals not everyone can be that defensemen that controls the blue line and the d zone
@sgttibbz2975 ай бұрын
Maybe Hughes has Captain Serious vibes on the team, as a Canucks fan I understand why he's captain and its good Petty didn't get the C given his contract holdout. JT is a bit too emotional for the C as well so really only Hughes is left.
@obscurereference62985 ай бұрын
morons: Brady is a good captain because he's emotional also morons: JT cant be a captain because he's too emotional .... morons
@calokapanen5 ай бұрын
I love the passion and trust Jesse puts in Owen Power, hope it turns out great for him
@congs51925 ай бұрын
As we go into December, you guys should do a pod on a preview of this years WJC. Look at some of the teams or standout players you expect to make it, bubble players, etc.
@nickfiacco11795 ай бұрын
Always ready for a new podcast episode
@imsofly7505 ай бұрын
Corwin you are a casual for picking Raymond at 5. I hope you read this
@G_R_C5 ай бұрын
For real, Raymond is more capable all around player every day and is scoring more right now too.
@jancihamara3 ай бұрын
1 month later, Slafkovsky keeps showing that your evaluation is so damn off, love it! xD Also Nemec killing it for Devils, what the hell is Jesse on, clueless opinions xDD
@bug08113 ай бұрын
He has 7 goals in 49 games played lol I swear mtl fans think their players are god tier
@jancihamara3 ай бұрын
@@bug0811 he's 19 lol, and his first full season 😄 seen Dubois's stats? Or do you expect 19 y.o. kid to slap in 30 goals on his first season?
@bug08113 ай бұрын
@@jancihamara your original point was that the evaluation is off, mintyukov has almost the same amount of points as Juraj in 9 less games played as a D on a worse team than mtl. Cooley has more points in less games than juraj.
@jancihamara3 ай бұрын
@@bug0811 and evaluation was indeed off lol
@MoonDragn773 ай бұрын
And the Devils are terrible right now with Jack Hughes out and Nemec is still catching up to Mintyukov in points with less games played.
@brandonm82515 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Poc being here hahaha. Great interactions with Jesse
@evannewlander75405 ай бұрын
20:56 Durzi was in the Muzzin trade. Trevor Moore was the return for Campbell.
@dustinjones19075 ай бұрын
Forget JUST this year. Hughes was first overall as of last year, you east coasters just havent seen it till now. Hes RIDICULOUS.
@ivan88050able5 ай бұрын
I don't even think Ottawa fans would pick Brady Tkachuk over Quinn Hughes....
@user-ti4lj8yz1v5 ай бұрын
So excited for you guys to come to Windsor !!!!!
@beatsbreaksbricks65665 ай бұрын
Robertson over Heiskenan is crazy talk
@20allii013 ай бұрын
It’s insane how stacked some of the more recent drafts have been
@andrewi5594 ай бұрын
I know this is from a month ago but man with how Nemec has fit into the injury ridden Devils I am so happy we picked him
@peter83675 ай бұрын
another great episode!
@whitneysmiltank5 ай бұрын
23:57 LOL Corwin's reaction
@dvotzmusiccompilationsandc56475 ай бұрын
For me only Raymond and Stutzle would make the top 5 that were originally in the top 5. I think Perfetti, Lundell, Mercer, and Jarvis have been better than the other players in the top 5.
@sewdz5 ай бұрын
as a Sens fan… Sanderson is more valuable than stutzle and should of gone #1. Points are great but Sanderson is f-ing near flawless and he’s played 1 year.
@vtvt01335 ай бұрын
I’d be interested to see what Robert Thomas’ status would be if he played for a less mid team. The guy is definitely one of the best passers in the league.
@anthonymoring70615 ай бұрын
Moore was the Clifford/Campbell move. We got Durzi in the move for Muzzin.
@owenquerin76135 ай бұрын
corwin trying to leave out Raymond, a calder finalist, is absolutely crazy
@wesleythorne66575 ай бұрын
As yes, the greatest achievement a player can earn, Calder finalist lol. You realize how many nobodies where Calder finalists lol
@matthewkabel62465 ай бұрын
Raymond wasn’t even a Calder finalist
@Strawberry-12.5 ай бұрын
You guys are underrating nico hieshier he is one of those players that might not look amazing on stat sheets but when you see him live he blows you away
@Lealternativecc5 ай бұрын
Keller to van is such a solid call ❤🎉 8:07
@Tangerine_69245 ай бұрын
Jesse has to re do the 2021 draft. In what world does mason Mctavish drop with the year he’s having
@ryanpankiewicz43565 ай бұрын
Brady tkachuk over dahlin and Hughes is laughable
@obscurereference62985 ай бұрын
no it's just sad.
@ChandlerDaughtry3 ай бұрын
As well as over Svech. Honestly I think he’s 5 imo.
@meganwilliams84945 ай бұрын
Tbh I think jesper bratt should have been in at least the top 10. Devils got the biggest steal of the draft
@jeffreysebrow85315 ай бұрын
Where does Jesper Bratt get drafted in that 2016 redraft?
@jp11705 ай бұрын
Good player. Not better than Matthews, Tkachuk, Fox, Mcavoy, Thompson
@sandreason255 ай бұрын
Where is the love for Zach Benson in the 2023 draft, he's got NHL games under his belt and is looking decent so far as an 18 year old
@gustafljung53505 ай бұрын
The fact that every highlight is a play against the red wings shows the red wings hate
@PaulieV425 ай бұрын
Finally, I get my bardown fix
@rykerwierdsma49825 ай бұрын
Like this, I think yall should do it for 08-2015.
@Pajo25ify5 ай бұрын
The absolute Heiskanen disrespect
@jameson12395 ай бұрын
Dude he’s really good but Makar, Pettersson, Robertson, and Oettinger were also taken in that draft
@LETZGONHLdraft5 ай бұрын
@@jameson1239Makar is better who else though?
@hemanownsyou5 ай бұрын
@@LETZGONHLdraft Pettersson, easily. Deal with it.
@jameson12395 ай бұрын
@@LETZGONHLdraft Pettersson
@LETZGONHLdraft5 ай бұрын
@@hemanownsyou Heiskanen is on pace for: 4-47-51 Points, 151 Blocks, +250 SAT Differential, +198 USAT Differential.
@michaeldavies4697Ай бұрын
Jonathan Lekkerimäki will end up the top of the 2022 class by the end of the decade. Sick degree of natural talent. Mike Bossy like sniper.
@loggano5 ай бұрын
It has to be taken into consideration who these guys play behind. Byram plays behind Toews and Makar and for that reason is current ceiling is PP2. Power plays behind Dahlin, who has PP1 locked up and the play flows through him. These guys haven't shown it because they haven't been given the opportunity to. I think the Power Hedman comparison is very fair, and I also think Guhle and Byram have a very similar play style as well. Guhle is in a different pair of shoes in Montreal with less consistency/skill around him but both of them show flashes of being stars when they are in control of the play. They just don't get the points to show for it due to who is around them at the time.
@megansiegner10465 ай бұрын
Yes, Wallstedt is amazing ❤🎉
@davida80525 ай бұрын
Brandt Clarke is going to be a star. The Kings are brining him along slowly and developing he defensive game. This is his first pro year in the AHL he is leading the league in D man scoring as a rookie.
@KINGPOOPS5 ай бұрын
So you admit that Quinn Hughes is probably the best player in the league at the moment, but you'll take the 70 point winger instead because you just like his vibes better?
@shoeboxbistro5 ай бұрын
Quinn Hughes isn't even the best player on his team homie
@KINGPOOPS5 ай бұрын
@@shoeboxbistro and who would that be?
@artemisgray94635 ай бұрын
Lmfaoooo just goes to show, Quinn Hughes can literally lead the league in points as a dman and captain a team from the basement to the top, and he'll still get passed over for a winger who's well below a ppg on a middling-bad team. 😂😂 That's fine, keep sleeping, that's how we got him at 7 so all I can say is thank you. ❤
@jeremeymcdude5 ай бұрын
I have a thought for a podcast, Top 5 Undrafted NHL players past present and future Top 5 undrafted that are retired or out of the NHL Top 5 undrafted Current NHL players Top 5 Undrafted players inAHL and/or currently signed to an NHL team Would be interesting to see the players that were passed over in drafts but still pressed on and made the show and proved the teams wrong about them.
@ArteoftheMist5 ай бұрын
This was fun!
@joelandersson57405 ай бұрын
Insane to not mention Jesper Bratt as a riser to the 2016 draft, are you kiiiiding meee
@dvotzmusiccompilationsandc56475 ай бұрын
How did noone bring up Lundell for 2020?
@LDJ895 ай бұрын
That framed Chel '94 is sick! I suggest people check out NoClips Documentary of "The Making of NHL '94" on KZfaq that came out a couple days ago.
@XcSNIPERcX5 ай бұрын
I can't think of any way i'd ever consider Brady over Quinn especially after this season
@user-xi4og2dq9x5 ай бұрын
Considering Tkachuk or Dahlin over Quinn Hughes exemplifies the superficial understanding this panel has of hockey at the most fundamental level.
@liammcmul5 ай бұрын
2018 Brady is #1 no question, also the reason the Sens haven’t taken the next step is because they still have DJ smith as head coach!!! Fire DJ already OMG😭😭
@Liprocky5 ай бұрын
Lucas Raymond should probably be third in the 2020 class, and sandin pelikka will be a riser in a few years
@brianschlaf70075 ай бұрын
I still think Kappo Kakko can turn things around and still see that huge potential in him
@dylanmilton58535 ай бұрын
Brady over Quinn is one hot the hottest and worst takes ever in these podcasts!
@finnishfinn5 ай бұрын
Tough one for Finnish players 😅 Maccelli was only one that got uplift, others went down
@pelataan695 ай бұрын
yup that 2016 youth world championship really pumped them up so high on the draft
@j2dzillak7505 ай бұрын
Imagine Quinn Hughes in International Competition and getting that kind of experience.
@Zach-lc6bs5 ай бұрын
id have brady 3 behind hughes & dahlin
@rickyrougs5 ай бұрын
i watched chamber of secrets yesterday and even i didnt know what jesse was referencing
@robertmulligan74755 ай бұрын
No Dustin Wolf as a riser from 2019 draft?
@silver44365 ай бұрын
Peterka deserves a mention
@TANNMAN545 ай бұрын
Surprised no one even mentioned Matthew portios for Boston in the 2022 draft
@CamTanYT5 ай бұрын
Still can’t get over the red wings taking Zadina over Hughes
@hdhdhzh2595 ай бұрын
Michkov talent is undeniable but you never know if he'll even make his way to the NHL due to Russia war
@alexremski58195 ай бұрын
is it just me or does it feel like all of these highlights are dunking on the Wings?
@BurpsMcGurpsАй бұрын
Looking back, the fact that some of them took other players over Johnston and Stankoven in 2021 is insane.
@spicoli33575 ай бұрын
Nemec just played his first game, you guys can fix your top 5 for 2022 now 😉
@campbellshepherd78825 ай бұрын
May have been a joke but I saw a post that Gretzky said Laf was the best looking player in the league with his vision and drive. And will be hot soon.
@Aidan_minotii5 ай бұрын
Hughes it up, all the Hughes’ bros be picked in the first round top 10, and we got Nico in here to
@Banans24 ай бұрын
i wouldve put bedard at second only for one reason because if hes on the ducks the ducks have so many elite prospects and if thier roster grows together you may have 3 franchise players on one team
@jayp.61665 ай бұрын
How about Dallas getting Miro Heiskanen, Jason Robertson, and Jake Oettinger all in the same draft in 2017. Unreal
@Madbro2045 ай бұрын
Julia needs to be on bar down content more often!
@Energizedd5 ай бұрын
hmm Wyatt Johnston didn't even get a mention when talking about the 2021 NHL re-draft, imo he cracks top 5
@tysonwarkentin81914 ай бұрын
Top riser for the 2020 draft is Devon Levi, no question. he's a 7th rounder who has played NHL games after just turning 22 is crazy
@Nirv_992 ай бұрын
Agree what Jesse says about Quinn Hughes.
@Mattwin19995 ай бұрын
Jesper Bratt 2016? 6th round Pick
@arothman12355 ай бұрын
was just about to type that comment!
@jacksoncollini15205 ай бұрын
Corwin tweaking about that defence to forward conversion