That Btwin won't see wheels that good ever again.

So Tubular tyre was 25-28 mm@ 175 psi and the 2nd tyre was a clincher @ 25mm tyre with max pressure at 145 psi and the last tire was tubeless at 23 mm with a max psi of 130 psi. Your tire widths are going to vary regardless of a consistent air pressure and rim width. I would love to hear arguement for how you felt this was a legitimate test?

This test is pretty flawed: The Tubular and Clincher wheels used the Corsa G+ tires, while the Tubeless tire was a Corsa Speed, which is a different, faster tire. All three types of tires need to be tested with the same tire: The Corsa Speed in the respective Tubular, Tubeless, and Clincher setups in order for this test to be fair.

Stig's cycling cousin! I miss top gear

That Btwin was pretty good looking with those wheels in!

The Tubeless tyre was a 23c and the others were 25/28. Would this not have had an effect on the results as well?

POOR COMPARISON for those that weren't paying close attention - a different & FASTER tire was used for the tubeless! Shame on you CW!

Thx for your test, mate!

Sick analysis. Really great job.

Nice video, really enjoyed it!

A great review and test! Thank You

Great video guys👍

One thing else they didn't mention is, clincher and tubeless rims, are now made to different widths to accomodate different width tyres to stop them going into a teardrop shape. This effects aero and the contact patch and shape of the sidewalls, surely this must make a difference?

Never ridden with anything but tubeless for years now on my mountain bike so when I got a road bike it seemed the right way to go.

For many decades the pros have used tubulars. If they're good enough for the pro's their good enough for me. I've ridden clinchers for many years, and have just started trying tubular. Thanks.

Yep heard this before but doesn't make sense to me. As i see it, the amount of sidewall deflection absorbs the road imperfections, tubulars have a greater amount of tyre to absorb this as it is a complete round tyre. Clinchers and tubeless need a stronger sidewall and hook allowing less deformation over road imperfections. So as they claim with science and rolling resistance these days, if the tyre is bouncing over the road it is slower, if not it is faster. This is why a wider tyre is faster, due to the lower pressure you can run for the same contact area. They can't have it both ways. The high the pressure without bouncing the faster you will go. So I can't see how clinchers and tubeless are quicker, plus many say tubular has the softer ride, then clincher, then tubeless, if so, then tubular should be the fastest? I think tyre choices are very marginal between them. All are good these day, but one advantage with tubular is the rims are a lot lighter and don't suffer so much from brake heat failure. PLUS using different size tyres varies weight, contact area and amount of sidewall to flex

You should have made the test on various types of terrain. it would have been interesting to see the potential differences in climbing sections...

U guys need to make a vid about how can wheel depth change our speed or disk wheel

Good test!

Would be interested to know the level of comfort offered from the Tubeless and the clincher tire. As I am not going to becoming pro anytime soon, I am debating wether I should use Tubeless or Clincher on my next wheel set.

If I want to change from Aluminium Wheel to Carbon fibre ones, do I have to have a specific size? Or is it all the same for all the Road bikes so long as the wheels can reach the break callipers?

I have tried tubeless tyres for about a year Unfortunately gone through a few tyres due to punctures (one time two in one week) Sealer only works on tiny holes Anything bigger the sealer doesn’t really work that Well In the end you need to put a tube in anyway But I have to say tubeless does really roll nicely I’m sure over time tyres and sealer will get better

It's the Stig's cycling cousin!

The test run at the same tyre pressure at 100 psi. However, tubelar tyre can run at much higher than 100 psi. And also, clincher tyre can run more than 100. So, what would be the lowest rolling resistance if we run tubular at 200 psi, clincher at 125 psi and 100 psi for tubeless?

I didn't know the Stig rode bikes

The raptor needs to keep his heels down

Palmer park velodrome, I had some good times here

Is that the B'Twin Triban 540?

6:47 The Raptor is so cool. Look at him just sitting there.

You did a good job but this is just a start. You need to test many more ranges and more wheels. Enve, Zipp Roval and etc.... test different tyre pressures, difff size tires and rim widths. Different ground characateristics like chip n seal to smooth tarmac and even some really rough .... heavy va light rider. From there you take the info and make some observations. This was to narrow of an xperiment to help me make a decision on tubeless over tubular for clincher

The raptor is like the stig from top gear

So can I put tubeless tires on tubular wheels??

I time travelled from the future to tell you that road tubeless sucks massive balls. It sprays everywhere when it doesn’t seal and stains your kit.

I have seen other tests and the tubeless tire always comes out on top. Yet pro teams are not using them and I don't know of any riders wishing that their next dream wheelset was tubeless. I would guess it is a high end pair of carbon tubular or clincher wheels.

Looks like tubeless is the way to go !

Not much difference between the tubular and the clincher- that's what I expected as I have both these tyres and find them very similar. The key point is that the clincher he is testing is an 'open tubular' i.e. Vittoria have made that clincher to the same high quality as their tubular. So clinchers may be as good as or better in this case, but don't expect any old clincher with a high weight, butyl inner and low tpi to be comparable And tubulars have better resistance to flats, and do not come off, as long as glued properly. Still good reasons why they are used by the pros. Who use tubulars such as FMB with cotton or silk sidewalls, which are in a different league

Commendable effort guys. Interesting video👍I think the results from the tubular and clincher are comparable while the tubeless setup might not be. You are using a different model tire in a different size tire with the same pressure . Compound/design, pressure/volume and aerodynamic profile will all be different. Still , no doubt that the g-speed tubuless is fast. Cheers!

excellent article - well done lads. funny story BUT you need to use the same tyre for all tests to make it believable

Ok now do it again with each tire pumped to its max spec. As a track racer, i would never race on the velodrome at 100psi

Why does the raptor need tinder?

What is ollie doing here instead of gcn

I want the test on hill

Should have been called 'The Twig'

Sew ups for racing and clinchers for everything else.

Top Gear

Am I the only one who thinks their anonymous test rider is Simon Richardson from GCN???

Nice

Why would you use the same press on all three? That is just mad.

why do you use TUBULA 700X25 CLINCHER 700X25 TUBULESS 700 X23 ????

Nor new tires system could make a difference

Everything aside, those are some super low Crr values right here.

b'twin is a french brand

What about the tubular tyres without inner tubes?

Who knew full helmet plus scarf would become compulsory. Cw ahead of the curve

Too LOUD background music.

Yeah but tubular's are cool. Which makes the best.

This changes my view that tubular is the fastest.

Not very useful. Tubular are lightest. Do the same test in the mountains. Also take tire width and correct air pressure into account.

Chuubular

1 second ago A few disadvantages of tubeless please! I'll wait. I had hippiehead know-it-all middleaged mechanics warned me and tried to keep me from going tubeless in my mtb until I decided to go figure for myself. I will be damned I won't at least try it. I mean, hainvg punture and getting stuck on the side of the road in some harsh winter cold is where you want to be for real? I went tubeless and never looked back. I will be damned I ever put a tube in my mtb tires again. Now, roadie, I just got a tubeless compatible carbon wheels, I don't know if to go tubeless, and why am I confused, this is another enviroment entirely, the roads actually have debris and nails, you won't find nails and debris, metals and sharp objects on the trails the way you do on open tarmac roads. Some argue about getting the wheel on but, I say, hey! road tires isn't something you change every other week like the mtb ones, usually you install a tire and use it till it completely wears out. So, if you find setting up wheels for tubeless is a hassle, maybe cycling isn't really for you to begin with.

Very bad test. You are comparing different models of tires and different widths. What a kick to science.

Mate really use Sealant on tubeless mate you don't have to put sealant inside just tape the inside then Make a hole for the valve then inflate it then boom don't use sealant they're unecessary Tubeless works without sealant for years sealant is just ruining your inside tires and for style only they only add weight ❤

Clinchers can be just as quick as anything without needing to glue tyres on or have a ride ruined by a puncture. Top labs have tested the michelin power competition clinchers with standard 100 butyl tubes having better rolling resistance than any tubular or tubeless tyre on the market only schwalbe was as good at pressures 80psi and above. I love my power competition with my supersonic 50g tubes no punctures and feel good andcas quick as anything else out there

Without the rider all tires can’t move.

This test was, indeed, indispensable. Very useful, much to the point.

So many flaws in the testing. I think the other commenters mentioned some of the flaws already.

cool

This was bias in favour of the tubeless. They factored out that tubular wheels are considerably lighter than clincher or tubeless wheels. Its not about the tire alone but about the whole wheel system. This is marketing. While tubs are expensive tub wheels second hand will be cheaper because of these marketing lies. Tubeless are great when they work but when they don't work they are a real let down. Just my opinion thats all.

Why is he wearing a helmet more expensive than his Btwin

I was surprised. I thought tubs is d the fastest, because that's what pros use. For budget/performance, I'd still go for my clinchers. but if budget allows, then tubeless will be an best all-around choice. PS: great experiment.

Hm, I wonder how Tubular Clinchers would fair; no sealant or glue involved, yet also light.

So, tubeless is fastest among the three, scientifically measured.

Without watching this, if the pro peloton uses Tubulars exclusively you would be correct to say they must be faster.

Industry schills schill again!

mr h's brother? :D

Putting them at 100 is not even. Tubular at 120 would feel like a clincher at 100.

So why are pros still using tubs...seems dumb??

Obvious bias to push the sales of tubeless tires. Corsa speed tubeless lol.

i already know, tubulars

Don't believe this rubbish. I am miles faster on my Tubulars over my Clinchers . 145psi Tubulars 125psi on the Clinchers. Why do track rides use Tubulars. 180 + psi

So why are pros still using tubs...seems dumb??