Yeah absolutely 👍👌

Александр Карпов haha there’s no Russian deal without finishing a bottle first, i know that! 😃😂

It was all covered in the previous video too. 👌

Pssound I’m having a nightmare with a 3.sixty.3 and some front mids/high passive set. Like tuning a mountain.

Haha, yeah, sometimes people have to be told to wake up! 😃 I have many tricks, but unfortunately i won’t share anything more tuning related than the videos in the TUNING playlist. Only other source you can pick up more info from is the RTA tier on our Patreon channel. www.patreon.com/pssound

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@Jaime Benedict Instablaster ;)

@Yehuda Gabriel thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.

@Yehuda Gabriel it worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy! Thanks so much you saved my ass!

@Jaime Benedict no problem =)

Hi James question Question what do you think of the zapco dsp Z8 iv ii ? does it work well software etc Please let me know Regards Stefan

@@81stefan1 I enjoy it alot software only on windows computer Mac laptop no software . But iPhone app and android app works well.

Thanks James can you do the complete EQ tuning via the app ? Or only with the laptop And is this unit quiet No grundnoise or hiss through the tweeters

@@81stefan1 if you ground everything correctly will be perfectly fine you can do a lot from the app.

Thanks James it will be either a zapco z8 iv-ii or a helix dsp pro mk2 still have some doubts 🤔 I now use the dm810 Its fine but I think it can be better

Probably comes from the days of not having a dsp - the driver choice would be more critical.

Shafick Nazier no, i haven’t used centre channel yet, no need in my 1 seat setups as centre image is still rock solid and the passenger wouldn’t have a clue about imaging anyway! 😃 I’d highly recommend using differential rearfill though! 💪👌✌️🔊🔊

Jesus Martin hi, please check Leo’s comments + answers below! 👌✌️🙏

@Lucas Long Nick Apicella at Apicella Auto Sound in Stoney Point, NY. He has some pre-requirements you & your system need to meet BEFORE contacting him that are outlined in the Link below to his Remote Tuning thread on the DIYMA forum. He's a great tuner and custom installer. Does really good work. He's somewhat of a youngish NY punk kid and comes off a bit cockey at times (like Peter can sometimes, LOL), but he's a good guy and knows his stuff. You'll get a great tune if your install and equipment are in order. www.diymobileaudio.com/threads/remote-tuning-you-asked-im-delivering.428133/#post-5817920

bb foto yes, it can come across a bit cocky at times, but i just try to nail the facts into people’s head! At least i don’t come with the high street marketing bullshit! 😂

Just needs tuned down alot there tweeters very effecient even morel can be bright depending where you out them dsp fixes everything tho or going passive at minimum

Colby Dolby this Zapco is dead easy to use even for newbies, whereas Helix DSP’s have so many features and pages, that most people can get lost. Both of them sound great and have head to head accuracy when it comes to tuning. I use both of them very often, to be fair i don’t want to use anything else! Latest Mosconi DSPs have all the goodies too, so i would be alright with that too, but that’s it! Helix is still leading in features and compatibility with REW, but i’m okay with any of the 2 until i can get the desired sound out of them. The Zapco HDSP V is special for me though: pain in the ass to tune with it (new software is coming), but the sound!! ❤️❤️

@@pssound9749 Yeah, Zapco REALLY needs to get the software (AND their Support/customer service) sorted out for the HDSP V units. They are so close. I've really wanted to use these new processors in my systems, but they are just not there yet. :( Hopefully soon!

bb foto it is there now, but it makes a massive difference who you buy it from, like my customers getting it from me with all the support. Devices are preset for their system and tested for weeks before they actually ship out, but i wasn’t selling them till i wasn’t confident with them.

@@pssound9749 Yes, that's very important. Unfortunately, Zapco laid that burden too heavily on their dealers IMO. No one can argue about the high quality of sound that they produce. I just take issue with companies that release their uber-expensive products too early and when they are "half-baked", which forces their dealers and early adopter customers to become the guinea pigs or "beta testers" while all of the bugs get sorted out. :/ And they ARE NOT FAST at providing updates and getting things sorted. :( They also announced these units MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, and then kept making empty promises all along the way. Ultimately, many of us gave up and lost interest, while during the same timespan Audiotec-Fischer had released and refined/updated MULTIPLE top-notch DSP products with a huge feature set and options. Unfortunately, Zapco lost a huge amount of momentum and market share during that time. And when they FINALLY were released, the actual roll-out and release of the HDSP V units was a complete clusterfook (at least here in the U.S.) and very poorly handled. AND the software was half-baked and definitely not ready for primetime. It's taken more than a year to get them to a point where they are actually semi-stable and usable. Then, of course, there was the change in distributors here in the U.S. which was another setback. While I like the concept of the HD Player & remote, it is crude and severely lacking and restrictive for the current times compared to even the most basic of smartphone music playing apps. I still have heard nothing of the optional ADC/DAC modules that they promised with the initial announcement. Are those available in the EU now? /RANT :-P

Think about it, If you're tuning a system you're listening to music in stereo so you would then tune each individual driver with Uncorrelated Pink Noise (Stereo Pink Noise). If I'm tuning a Right side speaker I only want to tune the signal going to that speaker. If you tune with Correlated pink noise (Mono) you're tuning left and right signal for a driver that's only going to be playing right signal giving you inaccurate results.

The miniDSP C-DSP 8x12 v2.0 Dirac Live unit is incredible in this regard as well. It fixes timing, amplitude response, and phase 110% better and MUCH faster than even some of the best experienced manual tuners can. It has a few quirks to figure out as the DL algorithms and measurement protocol weren't really designed with a nearfield/small-space, highly reflective vehicle cabin in mind, but it's still amazing what you can achieve in a relatively short time.

@@bbfoto7248 :DDDD

but no one in pro category uses miniDSP C-Dsp because of its terrible sound

@@mindosy I don't compete, but I'm a musician of 25+ years (Saxophones & Drums/Percussion). I have 4 vehicles with high-end systems using Helix DSP PRO MK II, Helix DSP ULTRA, Gladen Aerospace 8x12, and miniDSP C-DSP 8x12 DL. I've been using DSP and tuning my own car audio and home audio/studio systems since the 1990's. I use REW and Systune with Earthworks professional measurement microphones when tuning. My own home studio recordings of my sax & drums, and other typical "audiophile" recordings including EMMA, IASCA, and Stockfisch AYA discs, sound the most REAL and LIFELIKE in my system with the miniDSP 8x12 DIRAC LIVE...by far! The speakers in that system are Purifi PTT6.5 as midbass, Dynaudio Esotar² 430 midrange, and BlieSMa T25B-6 Beryllium tweeters with TWO 15" Infinity BETA 15X subwoofers in I.B. configuration. Other systems use Focal Utopia 8WM, 3.5WM, and TBM tweeters with Raven 12" subwoofer. And another system uses Purifi PTT6.5 midbass, Excelsus XXM325 3" mid, and Gladen Aerospace 20 tweeters with H.A.T. Clarus 15 subwoofer. Last system uses ARC Audio RS1/4/6 3-way components and Boston Acoustics SPG555 subwoofer. So I'm no stranger to high end SQ and I know what REAL acoustic musical instruments sound like in real life to compare my systems. ;-) The miniDSP C-DSP 8x12 DL sounds fantastic when it is implemented properly. I have tried the Zapco HDSP V Z16 which does sounds great (when it worked), but when I tried it in early days there were WAY too many problems and quirks with its software & firmware, and horrible dealer support, so I returned it.

@@bbfoto7248 nice setups, many of dsp you mean was tuned and your insights about Zapco is true, but one more is that Zapco sounds very "digital", Helix flat in bad side of flat, maybe you are right, but i have no good experience with auto tune audio things, especially that using EQ in sound is the worst thing

We usually run rears as differential rearfill, still properly EQ-d and time aligned. 💪🏼

Jah Son 🤣🤣🤣

@@pssound9749 awesome video, please check your DM on IG from qtn_auto

John Salinas II correct. 👌

@@pssound9749 If I am running say just the Left three way to make sure they are phased correct do I use MONO or stereo PN?

@@pssound9749 wouldn't you want to run mono pink noise when measuring pairs of drivers, such as two tweeters? Mono would essentially be measuring your "center image" and verifying there is no cancellations from miss set time alignment?

seems closed

Harwood Acoustics someone is watching my videos properly! 😉😘😃😂

Yes. 👌🤘

Leo Eskelinen check out Erin’s Audio Corner channel, he has a video about measurement techniques. I can’t share mine unfortunately, sorry.

Pssound Ok Peter. I understand. Will check out Erins Audio Corner. Thanks

@@leoeskelinen1867 Yes, Erin really knows what he is doing and is willing to share his knowledge. The reflections are part of the total amplitude response you ultimately hear at your listening position. The Moving Mic Method is much faster and gives you very similar results to taking multiple-location, fixed-point mic measurements and then averaging them in REW. There is also other software that is extremely powerful and can reveal more refined and useful data (if you know how to interpret and apply it). But those are not free like REW and require greater understanding of impulse response, phase, modal characteristics, etc. Also look up Steve Kiser in North Carolina, and Mark Eldridge (Mobile Soundstage Engineering) in Oklahoma in the U.S. Also the guys at Audio X Custom Car Audio, Florence, Alabama... www.audioxcustom.com/

bb foto Thanks for your reply. I’ve been using the MMM as my primary method. Separately one channel ear by ear first, then both channels. Starting with the midrange. What really disturbs me is the big variations in measurements. What is the purpose of using state of the art DSP when the aqoustics mess up the possibility of correct and repeatable mesuring results.

bb foto Have you used gated measurements? Maybe this is the way to go?

M*****w T****s please find PART 9. of the SQ in Car playlist, where a HELIX DSP PRO mk2 was used, shared few months ago.

Phil O. Centre channel is difficult if you don’t have an upmixer algorithm in the DSP for that.

@@pssound9749 I grabbed the Helix 3.8 because they have it or something similar. Thanks, I hope others see your comment.

No, max clean signal from source as well as from DSP to the amps, so you can keep amp gains lower to improve the S/N of the system. Controller of the DSP is usually the master volume, especially when we use digital sources.

@@pssound9749 so I would oscope my signal from the source (headunit) set that keep the source at that level Then plug the source into the DSP then oscope the dsp output then I can plug in my amps and then oscope the amp gains?

None. I think it’s explain in few tuning videos in the series, that i tune it linear and then i go on from there with my ears.

Ashton Murch once any car is parked in, it’s always on the charger. Well built systems with good equipment shouldn’t show any issue having the charger on. 👌

@@pssound9749 Good to know! Just discovered your channel a couple weeks back, it has a lot of good information and tips. Appreciate you putting out vids like this. My car is sounding better than ever!!

If only it was that simple! I’m working on a training program where even you or a shop employee will be able to learn the process. It’ll be shared soon.

Yann LECOEUR you don’t get any of that if the EQ is applied correctly at the right place with the right values.

@@pssound9749 you did not convince me. 😁 Check the group delay of left midrange and compare with the right one. Also, if you can, check the global phase response of each midrange channel in the tuning software. Each filter that you set creates a phase rotation at the F0 frequency. If you proceed with stereo EQs, everything is fine. But if you start EQing individual speakers of a pair where the human ear is sensitive (typically 20 Hz - 1.5 kHz), you will "defocus" these frequencies. This is why uncorrelated pink noise looks always sexier on our RTAs 😎 When you acoustically sum both midranges playing a correlated pink noise, some of the dips are the result of this phase distortion between left and right.

Yann LECOEUR you see you’re good to go, my help is not needed here! 😃

@@pssound9749 enjoy your holidays Peter!

jasongmt there are plenty of great guys over there already! 🤘🔊🔊

Dhanwant Agrawal there are separate videos as “teaser” where i play music, but tbf i find it comical to make any judgements based on a recording that goes through multiple channel before viewers can watch it.

Please check the other videos in the Tuning playlist to see a better picture. 👍

How can u compare the 2? Zapco is a standalone DSP, while the Helix V8 is an amp+DSP.

@@pssound9749 my fault, it's about zapco adsp-z8 iv-8, 8 channels dap amplifier. Thanks

Both sound great, have pretty much everything you need. Zapco has BT & controller, Helix doesn’t, everything is additional. Zapco is fully integrated, so you can not connect an additional (sub) amp to it, but channels are bridgeable. Helix is not bridgeable, but can add another amp to it as it has a pair of RCAs for it.

I don’t do remotely tuning, it doesn’t work.

@@pssound9749 okay Peter. Thanks for the reply.

You’ll have that peak there even if it’s in the dash with open air space behind it. It’s corner loading effect of location.

You're a luny too! XD

@@pssound9749 That notification bell works.🔔

@@timmothy19 notification bell squad represent 🔔🤙😂

LAST! :-P

I guess Dirac Live would be the optimum solution!

No, unfortunately it can not.

Absolutely, but i can not cover everything in one video and i’m not even gonna talk about how to do it when it’s already been done in the first video of this TUNING playlist. everything is listed in description for finding the appropriate links to learn more about it.🔊🔊

@@pssound9749 its an first video of Tuning playlist, mate :)

Evgeniy Dmitriev haha put it in a chronological order then! 😜😀

You're a luny! XD

@@pssound9749 as always