Its not over modelled - That is a completely unsurprising result. Type 45 is a purpose built Anti-Aircraft, fleet defence ship, designed specifically to operate in a saturation attack environment, based on lessons learned from the falklands conflict and the type 42's inability to cope with swarm attacks. Totally realistic

I expected nothing less than exactly what happened. Type 45 is far more capable than people realise. Not over-modelled in any way.

Spoiler: we may have found out why USN Carrier Bosses like having a Type45 in the defensive mix 😮

T45 would be able to engage all 17 targets at once. There are various figures on how many targets can be engages at once but 32 is a generally accepted figure. However ASTER missiles have their own guidance radars so do not need ship guidance. So theoretically the ship should be able to shoot all its missiles at at targets until it runs out. Once 24 Sea Ceptor are added these will be integrated too, The upgrade will have 24 Sea Ceptor and 48 ASTER 30 block 1 and then 1NT.

That was actually pretty accurate from what I know about the type 45 and yes, the 4.5inch gun can engage fast jet targets.

The radar is called s-1850m and it is a 3d L-Band aesa radar that is capable of tracking at ranges up to 2000km when used in a ballistic defense role. 6:40

As designed, to swat swarms of dumbasses getting too close. Props to the crew of the Duncan for staying so calm and professional.

What you have just found out is that the Type 45 destroyer us the best air defence destroyer of any nation. This is not over modelled this is what they were designed to do. The Sampson radar is designed to track over 200 targets and then prioritise the threat and select the appropriate system to kill the threat. They can engage between 20 and 30 targets at once. All of this came from analysing the naval aspects of the falklands war. The Arliegh burke is probably the best allround destroyer currently in service, but as someone pointed out the US task forces love having type 45’s along for air defence as simply nothing can touch them. They have now had an upgrade which makes them even more deadly. Generally just stay out if there envelope.

Sampson can track upto 1000 targets, the size of cricket balls travelling at 'over mach 3', upto 400km away, and control 16 interceptors onto threats simultaneously. Although the rumour has always been that tracking targets at ~mach 4.5 is well within capability. Beast of a radar, but hilariously expensive, played a significant part in half the T45's being cancelled. And yes, the main gun does have an Anit-aircraft mode, and can engage air targets at upto 20km out, but hits at that range are pretty damn unlikely.

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The ability for the type 45 to be actively tracking each jet from takeoff before engagement would allow them to get rockets off probably as quick or quicker then they did in the simulator

I had our lovely ship down for a resounding win and she didn't disappoint. Awesome!

Even before the Duncan picked up those aircraft , one would normally expect NATO EW assets in the region to have marked the pilots the moment they broke wind climbing into their relics , in the meanwhile NATO thanks the Russians for providing the best realistic training for its warships

You took on one of the most advanced destroyers in the world with 17 4th gen aircraft, you can't say you're surprised at this.

The bonus footage was worth every bit of time. I'm pretty sure even the Brits on board would have to be impressed enough to put their tea cups down momentarily for a "good show" or two. Then promptly swat them out of the air lol.

Type 45 doing what it was designed to do! The Achilles heel of a 45 has always been the lack of missiles. Adding x24 Sea Ceptors into the mix will really help longevity in a fight 💪💪

(1) The Sylver VLS (as used on the T45) is listed has having a much higher rate of fire than the Mk-41. Better missile eflux handling systems. But this is per 8-cell module, so I'm not sure how relevant this is in practice. (2) The old SM-2 required missle directors, one per target but up to 2 missles per target. The Arleigh Burks have 3 of these AN/SPG-62 fire-control radars. The new SM-6, and Aster, uses datalinks (like Meteor) and the Sampson radar can track 1000 targets. In the case of warships, this is specifically to handle swarms of aircraft. (3) Apparently the probability-kill p(k) for one Aster is (at least a bit) better than the P(k) for a pair of SM-2's, at least when the Aster was first designed, so they fire one per target, rather than a pair per target.

The suitcase shaped things on the flat roof behind the main radar are HF radio antennas designed to go straight up and bounce off the atmosphere. They enable radio comms behind mountain ranges that would otherwise be radio blind spots.

8:04 WOW that's some impressive flying Mr.Sock!

4 years ago when the Ducan was swarmed by the Russian's the daughter of our parts manager was on that Destroyer on that tour and they were not worried (well they were worried but I mean they weren't worried about the ship capabilities) they had all the planes targeted and locked. If it had gone hot all the planes would have been dead,

The scream at 14:58 is absolute comedy gold. *chef's kiss

Well it is a highly specialised anti air warfare destroyer designed from the ground up for this sort of situation so it’s not really over modelled

In the next couple years Type 45 will start to get an additional 24 tubes for CAMM increasing the firepower on these beautiful ships, It’s just a shame money constraints ruled out more SYLVER VLSs

I think this one went off really well guys. The type 45 would have been on alert and tracking everything before the engagement which would make sense as to why it was firing so quickly. They already had the targets all they had to do was push the button so to speak.

Sampson is freakin' awesome as a radar. The war in the Donbas has been going on since 2014.

That went exactly how I thought. Duncan is doing exactly what it was made for.

the Chinese type 055 is a much larger vessel than the Type 45. For reference, the type 055 is bigger than a Tico.

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Wow, I did not expect that! Love the Bonus Footage at the end!

That scenario against the Chinese destroyers didn't take into account That Royal Navy sailors would make a massive differance. I highly doubt the Chinese are anywhere near competant as the Royal Navy

The Sampson Radar spikey ball (Type 1045) is AESA and the S1850M (Type 1046) the rectangular one is 3D and is a AESA...the Type 45 has 2 AESA radars

"Clear to engage".... "Okaaayyyy...so. Ice cream then?"

In terms of EMPing them with radar, it's probably not about frying yourself much as it's directional. It's more likely the 1/r² element of RF which makes it less effective.

Great video same thing happened with closer range to HMS Defender ships from the Russian coastguard firing but out of range but they still had to get fireproof gear out because of the threat

Both large spiny radars are 3D AESA radars (although the L band antenna has weaker elevation resolution). The black flat panel Thales radar just operates at a lower frequency (requires a larger antenna, has greater range but less resolution). The round Sampson radar operates at a higher frequency, has better resolution all around and is much better at picking out close low flying threats. The 2D radars are the small ones that are used for marine navigation the side of the mast.

Interesting video and fun to watch. One point to note is that Duncan would fire salvos against inbound Mx. 2-3 Aster minimum against a smart munition, so that brings the saturation side of things further into focus.

The 45 desperately needs the additional mk41 and the Martletts on the auto cannon mounts.

I like the Su-24 "Fencer" mainly because it's an "Aardvark-ski". The Russian near equivalent of the F-111. Does this mean the Duncan is a "Flanker Spanker"?

Well a Type 45 is the only thing that could kill James Bond.

Great video as always :) These types are my favs.

It seems very accurate for public information of the ship. It was designed to be purely anti aircraft and to be sailing in a fleet with different specialisms. This doesn't surprise me at all. Brits learnt a lot in the Falklands.

I really hope they will model the Admiral grigorovich frigates. It would be awesome for y’all to do these Black Sea war games. With the best ships remaining in the Black Sea

While stationed at port Stanley the type 45 can paint targets setting off from Buenos Aires! The argies hate it as their ews just screeches at them as soon as their airborne!

Your trip around the sensors suit of a 45 was waaaaay off 😂

Did you hear about the British bulldog that killed a bear? Bear choked on it. ☺️

Was chatting about this just yesterday. Interesting times for all!

14:58 is my favorite part

I never, never, never expected that result!

My first GR video was the Kerch Bridge attack. Been here ever since.

I well remember shooting a media piece on HMS Daring many years ago, they showed us a video of the CIWS in operation tracing out letters. But they wouldn't let us use it..

I'm sadden by Cap....he forgot to mention the biggest wrestler back then.... Andre the Giant.

I definitely did not see this coming. Aster 30, best Aster!

Loved the video @Grim Reapers! Can't wait for the next video man! The British Type 45's are quite Interesting as well as the Type 22 Frigates. It would be Interesting to see how a Multinational Force with a Ticonderoga-class Cruiser, A Few Flight I and Flight IIA (Technology Insertion) Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers, 1 or 2 Type 45 Destroyers, 3 or 4 Type 22 Frigates, a Nimitz-class or Gerald R. Ford-class Aircraft Carrier, a Queen Elizabeth-class Aircraft Carrier and The French Aircraft Carrier Charles De Gaule were to Grab the Unexpected Attention of 2 Krivak-class Frigates, 2 Neustrashimy-class Frigates, 3 Admiral Gregorovich-class Frigates, 6 Grisha-class Corvettes, 1 Tarantul-class Corvette, 1 Bora-class Corvette, 4 Buyan-M Corvettes, 3 K-300P Batteries, 12 Su-24 Fencer's, 18 Su-27 Flanker's and 8 Mig-25 Foxbat's. I know this is a Tall Order given that you've got the Current Entirety of the Russian Black Sea Fleet with Their Top Notch Aircraft and Anti-Ship Missile Batteries in support going against the American, British and Some French Forces in the Area but it should be quite the Fireworks Display nonetheless. Can't wait to see how things go and I'll catch you in your next video!

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From someone who knows T45s, the Long Range Radar Type 1850M would have these aircraft as soon as they took off (along with satellite picture) and 1045 (Multifunction Radar) would 'paint' every one of those aircraft with a missile. One false move and the hatches open and an Aster is on it's way. I'd say at least 15 splashed on first engagement. Phalanx and MS30 will have anything else which comes near. Those Russian aircraft are seriously old. And T45s don't have NSM. They had Harpoon

The ship is not over modelled, it was designed to do exactly that. In fact, in reality, if we were at war, those jets would have died almost as soon as they’d taken off.

Nice comeback for the Type 45!! It may not be able to take on similar class ships, but it can scrub the skies of 2 flights of enemy aircraft with speed and style! Great run guys, always good to have Grumpnik back in the skies and Sock is.....Sock. Sweet paint job on that Flanker tho!

14:57 when grump dogged that missile 😂

I don't know if the ship was over modeled but the speed that ship was dishing out aa missles and smashing Russian aircraft was impressive to say the least.

Russian main tactic in situations such as this is: approach the target from multiple directions (minimum 4 directions), have every plane launch at least 2 missiles so that they roughly reach the target at the same time, turn around and GTFO real fast!

🇬🇧🇬🇧please read this (not worried about you reading it out just info for you) I watched that as it happened and the way the Russians buzzed they wasn't swarming HMS Defender it was a jet every fer seconds. I honestly think that they would have lost out big time. 🇬🇧🇬🇧 I know I'm going to be biased but I genuinely think that the original jet's would have gone down. They would have sent more after and THEN we would have paid but like I said we WOULD have knocked them out the sky 👍🏻 I'd love to see it run like that. Keep up the good work guys

Im so glad this tub finally came out on top..I was dismade at the last video where it was made to look pants..Yes I had wondered why rumble was quiet..thanks for explaining amd im sorry guys I cant currently afford patreon but have and will part of my hard earned cash when ever i can. Please continue to make very entertaining videos and also get cap to repeat as many amusing sayings especailly when he has NO idea what hes agreeing too

Love the outtake at the end; could watch an entire episode of you lot shooting the s*** as you arse around!

Type 45 is a beast. Real life situation I read that all the jets were locked on, and in a flick of a switch missles are launched at once its a absolute machine.

Why were you all so surprised about the result ? This is literally what T45 was designed for. It was clear in the real event that the captain was not worried at all by the Russians. He knew 100% that his ship could easily handle the threat if the Russians had done anything stupid. Type 45 is one of the best air defence systems there are.

@13:33 Fire Control Room: “prank em lads”

For the CIWS problem: could you give it a refillable magazine with a really short reload time?

I also heard a quote from the Captain in which he stated that the EWS could drop the aircraft out of the sky, but that was a surefire way to start WW3

A high powered radar can fry the electronics of a poorly built fighter, but it's easy enough to EM shield electronics so that's it's not an issue. It does take attention to detail though.

One more coat of paint and that jet would have hit the ship lol.

I think the scary part is this ship model, which did not perform the best up against the Chinese benchmark, is acturally not over-modeled. I believe aircraft in a random pattern around the ship like that just flying close by without using the advantage of long range missiles, should and will (did) get oblitrated per the video. You have a giant moving SAM site that can defend itself and has the capacity of a basically all the missile batteries you'd come across for hundreds of miles in all directions. The video doesn't even model the EW capabilities that should be far superior to any RU jet. This is what makes me excited for the future DDG(X) model. They're essentially keeping the successful Arleigh Burke model and building a new ship/design because they need an abundant amount of more physical space and power to support freakin' laser beams, crazy electronic warfare capability, and adequate room to support decades of upgrades.

May be better if you allow the Russians to get the first shot off (and see how the Type 45 responds) and also allow some of the Russians to be BVR.

I would have loved to hear the Russian Comms, when they discovered that every one of them was locked. No wonder it didn't kick off 😂

17 Russian aircraft attacking ..... HMS Duncan " hold my tea"

13:30 "Hoist up the thing! Batten down the whatsit! What's that thing spinning?? Somebody should stop it!!"

The American's just jealous by saying the 45 is over-modelled. He wouldn't be saying that if it was an American ship.

Man Cap really new some of the greatest professional wrestlers. Back when wrestling was actually fun to watch. Maybe it’s just because I was a kid.

Are there any plans to upgrade the asters on the type 45 mod? From the US carrier group vs k300p video 1990s US missiles performed better than modern asters, which obviously is just not the case. Youre trying to make these sims more and more accurate but the type 45 as it is now is far from accurate

Looking at the Wiki pedia entry, you are under loading the type 45. Before we argue the merits of wikipedia, it's a benchmark. there should be an extra SeaCeptor (24x) cells. This then enables the Asters to all be Aster 30's (48x).

Good video, Cap. No tanker or AWACS assets?

British Bulldog vs Russian Bear equals a pregnant bear. Total domination

You guys need to get on as many platforms as possible, may I suggest Utreon as an additional option.

The Radar is called "Sampson".

HACKSAW JIM DUGGINS is who Chuck Norris has nightmares about lol

I want to see a similar simulation, but using an Aegis-equipped destroyer

The longer range but 2D radar is the big one on the top. The medium range but high accuracy 3D radar is the large black one on the back. The other radars are for various other senses and systems.

8:05 thats some shaving stuff

Are they my golf clubs going round on top of that ship radar? Thanks again guys

i followed yal to rumble, but watching here until your not here because this works better

hopefully the fencers are armed with Kingbolt and AS17. because thats what I always used to use in Harpoon, and looking at the numbers.... no, not enough SAMS.... dumb bombs on an antiship mission, not best plan

What a load of balls, the moment the Brits fired, every jet would have unloaded all their missiles at the smoking wreck that would be the 45

The Bear IS aware of the reason Bulldogs have such short noses and protruding jaws, right? ;)

Eddy Wally Wow Meme always scares the sh!t out of me. lol

Is the 45 going to get updated at all? They’re adding 24 camm missiles, and the uk is adding the abm block 1 aster 30 that might really help against the type 55

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Still wouldn't have the Ensign on the quarterdeck while at sea, entering/leaving harbour or alongside only.

I really wasnt too suprised by the result ... The Russian craft were not aggresive enough in getting off as many missles as they could thou.. That being said the Type 45 is a top of the line destoyer and I would expect it to wipe out air wings ...

the EW is the little spikes on the upper part of the main mast, the domes on either side are most likely COMMs

Of course, flying around the ship like this at stand-off range WOULD end in the result we saw if Duncan was allowed to engage - all in perfect range to be simultaneously engaged by ASTER which Type 45 is perfectly capable of. You should re-run the exercise how the Russians would ACTUALLY engage Duncan if they intended to attack. Firstly 30 miles off the coat of Crimea, Russia would probably have at least a dozen land-based anti-ship missiles available to them. They’d have an AWAC up sitting beyond the range of ASTER 30 and would know the precise position of Duncan. They would launch some land-based sea skimmers and simultaneously attack low and fast with the jets precisely directed by AWAC intelligence - not hover around at 3-5 miles waiting to be picked off. Depending on aircraft type we are talking 2-4 ASMs per aircraft along with the ground launched ASMs which would soon run Duncan out of ASTER 15s and then 30s. The auto-cannon would and could probably get a couple of ASM kills - Phalanx would hit nothing until its too late to matter. If you wanted to script the perfect way of Duncan shooting everything down - you just did it! That engagement is clearly not how Russia would attack if they meant it.

hmmm, I think Damp MAY well be!!