ULTIMATE HUB VS MID DRIVE EBIKE TESTS!!!

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@neekodevinchi 3 жыл бұрын

Sick video Andy. Shredding the gnar!! Steve's custom Orange kept up with the ultra motor so I'm sure that will raise eyebrows. I might shoot a video comparing a Specialized Levo vs my bafang ultra bike. Keep up the vids mate and digging the new track towards the end of the vid 😁

@colossuses 3 жыл бұрын

A video comparing the two would be great 😁👌🏿

@AliMohammed-tq8ym 3 жыл бұрын

Andy /Steve loved da video keep it going guys can’t wait for da next one 👍

@francisogrady1780 3 жыл бұрын

Good video nice to see the 2 being compared, have a mid drive myself love it, but thinking of getting your 5000w bike for myself Andy. Sent you an email with some questions looking forward to hearing from you Andy..

@duncanswave 3 жыл бұрын

Love ur work mate !!!

@00708046 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison and fair analogy . Maybe do a leisire rough trail comparison with climbing and no racing , swapping bikes and both giving your opinions . Something for the average Joe .

@broadsworddannyboy655 3 жыл бұрын

Hiya Andy. I’ve just built a 1500watt hub motor bike with 52volt battery. So my my question to you is. What’s the difference between the basic Chinese speed controller you get with the kit and a phase runner SC? And does it include pedal assist? Would you recommend the investment to change it? Cheers,Danny

@juliodefreitas157 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and thanks for sharing your tips 👍

@ronniew945 3 жыл бұрын

When do you think you'll have the battery and controller in the same housing ?

@hhead56 3 жыл бұрын

Great ride love it thanks.

@TommyLuptak 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been building electric propulsion for 10 years. So what electric bicycle or vehicle do you need? All of them. Lol Build for what you need. And size motor, controller and battery for the task 😁 Thank you for your videos here!!!

@eddiewong461 3 жыл бұрын

That ride looked fun!

@ChrisRollins 3 жыл бұрын

that intro was slick! 🤘🏻

@cwitham69 3 жыл бұрын

The tortoise & the hare ... Thanks for another great test/review mate! I run a 6061 alloy FS frame with a 52v-21aH LunaCycle BBSHD w/ Hot Rod programming using a Shimano 3-speed IGH chained to 52T/22T gears. Huge torque in 1st gear and 47mph on the flats top end. I cruise with normal traffic & walk abouts at sane speeds and more than respect laws. I'm more than satisfied!

@AliMohammed-tq8ym 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they would change the law it is quite safe to stay up with traffic and what did I read 47mph 😃wohh 👍👍

@cwitham69 3 жыл бұрын

@@AliMohammed-tq8ym Yeah, I agree and believe that traveling at/with traffic speed is safer than being an obstacle to it. I love 'flying' on two wheels!

@gingerichdylan9999 2 жыл бұрын

@@cwitham69 How is it working out for you 10 months later? I am looking to do a similar build, anything I should keep an eye out for?

@cwitham69 2 жыл бұрын

@@gingerichdylan9999 It performs really well. I really enjoy it. It gets a lot of attention on the roads too. I would invest in as much battery as you can afford and keep it at 80% only charging it to 100% when you're going to ride.

@HiPpYBoAtErS 3 жыл бұрын

great video thanks Andy

@craigelliott4338 Жыл бұрын

Not long found you two. I live close by, I'm definitely testing my build there, I usually row or hike there... can't wait to tear it up.

@daved4547 3 жыл бұрын

@9:14 I thought we were about to see a 'george, watch out for the tree' moment! 🤣

@DudeStuff 3 жыл бұрын

Andy was so close 🙈😂

@tm-xz2ng 3 жыл бұрын

When does your vapor kits ship was looking says oct thinking of getting one

@JebusPrimeDLC 2 жыл бұрын

Do hub motors have any issue with curbs/stairs or bottoming out? Or is there enough clearance for them?

@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice and informative video. Quite fun as well! You forgot to say hub motor is much cheaper.

@tallcool1jeff 2 жыл бұрын

You forgot to say mid Drive is far superior to HUB Drive

@sigmaoctantis_nz 3 жыл бұрын

Have you enabled field weakening on the Phaserunner to increase top speed? I can accelerate from a stop to around 60kph without changing gear on my BBSHD making it great for town use. It's possible to get to 80kph (50mph) in higher gears but probably not good for the motor starting like that.

@rodolfobaliga7577 2 жыл бұрын

Wow nice, are you using the mid hub 750w motor?

@markmonteith3861 3 жыл бұрын

Andy i have been watching u videos lately i am thinking of building an e bike for my self to get around on i was in a terrible car carsh and broken my back but thankfully i can still walk luckily so i get a lot of pain so cant really work that hard was wondering the best way to go thanks eny help will be appreciated

@integra8502 3 жыл бұрын

You should put your mid Drive in a gear that gives same Top speed as the Hub,. then do the test staying in that gear.

@briankeane6429 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andy been watching your videos for the last couple of weeks trying to find out because I’m not very technical computer I’m trying to find out where I would get bike like the viper and how much would it cost for your cells possibly made up

@kranson8514 3 жыл бұрын

That was a blast nice one again.

@HUJUism 3 жыл бұрын

Love the smooth ride of hub motors no matter what.

@ianmangham4570 2 жыл бұрын

I love my super smooth rear hub motor, it just keeps on cruising like butter

@arnaudsemelet6050 2 жыл бұрын

@@ianmangham4570 Do you think its op to build a mid-drive (bbshd) and a 750w front hub motor? for some strong power🤭

@ianmangham4570 2 жыл бұрын

@@arnaudsemelet6050 I'd go mid drive only as they're the best

@frankstocker5475 3 жыл бұрын

Your mid-drive sounds like you have your mother-in-law on the bike.

@CHAD-pj8rx Жыл бұрын

What sort of rear drivetrain components do you use on the mid-drive bike to withstand the power?

@ixxolos 3 жыл бұрын

Praise be to GrinTechnologies for the Phaserunner! Such a sweet bit of kit

@20maxpower 3 жыл бұрын

HI what's the phase runner is it a controller please? Warren

@ixxolos 3 жыл бұрын

@@20maxpower Yes it is a FOC Controller. Link for all the info here: ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html

@dougfurr5217 3 жыл бұрын

I like the phaserunner, but removed it for the Ludicrous(BBSHD specific). I still get 3kW @52v(58.8) but no wires to deal with, as it is a direct replacement/ swap/ upgrade to the original. For some motors, there are better alternatives, but not many that do so many different motors as well as the phaserunner does. My motor does run much cooler with the Ludicrous vs when it was on the Phaserunner.

@theblackbike9083 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Video! I ride with a hub pretty hard offroad without any problem as you can see in my Videos. Even with a heavy QS205, you just need a good Suspension ;).

@OliEntic 3 жыл бұрын

Hello all, I am looking to make a ebike battery but i am stuck between two cells. Do i want to use the cells with a max discharge of 10A but 3500mah with 5 in parallel to make 50A or do i want to use cells with 20A so it would be 510A but with 3000mah. I am using a 1500w motor at 52v so it would be pulling 30A at most. Does it make a difference on the battery if i discharge it at a higher rate? Thanks

@eamonnthatcher 3 жыл бұрын

You spoken about a 1500w motor pushing out 2700w what is that running through a phase runner,I have a 1500w motor with one of 52 volt batteries could run a phase runner for more power

@blowduke 3 жыл бұрын

Got much the same krona bike I’ve mounted my battery underneath the bottom tube with some additional straps good for stability,

@rdkuless 3 жыл бұрын

What Bafang display are you using..? And is it standard TFT or Sunlight readable TFT..? i can't see my screen in full sunlight (it becomes completely black.. I'm currently using the 750C and it is useless in direct sunlight.

@bobpatty2937 3 жыл бұрын

Which is better? Easy! Both! My ride sports a Bafang mid drive fed at 72v(bac800) and a 8000w hub with single speed cassette (52/28) 72v 72150 Sabo. Both are fed by two 72v 30amp hour parallel triangular. MUCHO TORQUE bro!

@maxwellmc9734 2 жыл бұрын

Bomb it... haven't hear that saying since i was younger on a bike.. 🤣😂👍👍☕😎☕Great video you guys..

@BillyNoMates1974 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Good test. Andy are you planning on any more vids in the shed ? How’s Sarah these days, she hasn’t posted in a while ? Hope she’s ok

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

Shorts??

@BloodDruid 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your informative videos

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

@grahamnewman9725 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! Andy can you have a dual supply or limiter which allows to switch from off road too road use to comply with the law please

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

Yes you can have profiles with a phaserunner controller and cycle analyst display. That’s a bit like what we do 😉

@Dave64track 3 жыл бұрын

Great content really enjoyable to watch I think I'm going to get the rear hub motor at some point. What's the situation with the solar setup these days ? I set up 4 x 250w panels on a shed roof after watching your videos with a 1kw grid tie and it's working really good.

@k1ortia 3 жыл бұрын

Hub all day...no brainer..!

@salvadorgutierrez2108 3 жыл бұрын

Fun Fun Fun E-Bikes 😎👍

@TommyLuptak 3 жыл бұрын

Grin has that GMAC geared hub with regen. 2500watts but some are peaking them at 4Kw. I love regen and because it’s a 5 to 1 geared hub, the regen braking brings you to a complete stop 😊. Omg. Now I have to build one.

@coolhawk2003 3 жыл бұрын

$$$

@doc2821 2 жыл бұрын

@@coolhawk2003 also, geared hubs tend to overheat at high power compared with dd hubs

@dna2087 3 жыл бұрын

If you live in a hilly area, and with the right phaserunner configuration, you have REGENERATIVE BREAKING with the DD. Less brake ware, more range!

@wayneuk 3 жыл бұрын

if u need anything 3d printing iam just out of chelmsford

@oze-bikes4life663 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Andy, A Good comparative video there, Well done.👍😊 I Agree on full on pace/top end speed the hub drive would be my first choice especially on roads & smooth dirt trails. Im Getting myself a GoPro Chesty soon so will post some full on rough / rocky & rudded out favourite local trails on my mid drive ebike build in the near future. Keep up those great videos mate👌😎🚵🏼‍♀️

@OcTag3n 3 жыл бұрын

What is the track at 6:10? One of yours?

@ivanmcnamee5656 3 жыл бұрын

Noise wise, your bike seems noisy compared to hub or was that just the vid? Keep up the reviews

@likeher9 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andy Sorry not been around for while, just recovering from My 2nd brain tumour surgery a week ago today. Brilliant film this one mate, and I would totally agree with you, in that hub drives just edge it. Virtually no maintenance, no real noise, and as Electric Rider pointed out - "You don't even need a chain, let alone worry about breaking it!". And I do have both. Andy just a quick question if I may. I have a 1000 watt rear gearless hub setup, 48v 45amp sinewave controller, 52V 28ah LG MJ1 triangle pac. Top speed of around 36/37mph, should I upgrade to the phaserunner? Cheers Andy

@chargeriderepeat7024 3 жыл бұрын

I run a geared hub at 2500w max. It stonks a direct drive off the line and up steep hills. Probably the best approach if you want the best of both.

@LukaDukic 3 жыл бұрын

which one do you have?

@heroryan7859 2 жыл бұрын

Which one

@chargeriderepeat7024 2 жыл бұрын

bafang go6 geared fatbike hub

@chaosman71 11 ай бұрын

The Same by me. But If i juse a mxus fast Wind hub 11 KV the bafang has No Change - in both- top Speed and acceleration

@111midman 3 жыл бұрын

Nice subby btw Andy :)

@pointno945 Жыл бұрын

I have a trek Roscoe 6 2022 model can I put a 3000w" mtx 39 kit on it

@davenorman8251 3 жыл бұрын

Id like to see how a big name mid drive runs with a phase runner fitted, if only I could find a cheap rocky mountain or the like...top vid as always andy cheers.

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

It would melt the gears most likely as the Bosch gears are plastic, unless you kept to the factory power levels I suppose.

@SimonBauer7 Жыл бұрын

@@andykirby bit late but try the yamaha pw. it has metal gears. no plastic crap like bosch.

@yodab.at1746 3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of adding a mid drive to my bike which already has a rear hub motor. The thinking behind this is I want extra torque for faster acceleration, but would probably switch it so the rear is only driving at max speed. It's a bafang mid, only 250w, but for intermittent bursts, I could probably shove 500-750w before burn... Might be a wheelie monster

@phillee8257 3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about doing the same thing because the hub drive doesn't have enough power for steep hills.

@myronmootry7892 2 жыл бұрын

I've done it it works so awesome mid drive brings the hub drive up to speed, Perfect for my hunting bike which tows a trailer and is really heavy

@yodab.at1746 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I went for it. Obscene acceleration but quite hard on the battery. Basically a single speed bike, no greater top speed but ridiculous torque for hills. I favour the hub and use the mid for getting away from the lights and hills.

@thespartenkid Жыл бұрын

@yoda does the mid drive motor make noise while you're not using it?

@yodab.at1746 Жыл бұрын

@@thespartenkid no, it's completely silent.

@darrenmorris8258 3 жыл бұрын

How fast does the hub motor go? And how many miles out of that battery?

@neilrogersrogers6313 Ай бұрын

These hub drives are great! I've had mine for 3 years and gradually upgraded to a 72 volt battery with a 60 amp controller, running at approximately 3600 watts peak and it goes like stink off the line. sometimes the front wheel even pops up!

@ericdekwant8438 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr Kirby Name is Eric From Australia I'm wanting to extend my range on my ebike Batteries are 48v 21ah on my bike wanting to put 48v 40ah so have combined 48v 61ah My motor is a Bafang M400 with a built-in controller with 17amps Looking for advice Worried the 61ah be to much for the M400 motor and controller Your advice please

@TKomoski 3 жыл бұрын

I worry about efficiency now with my bike. Trying to push out more km's with better matched equipment.

@johnw65 Жыл бұрын

The mid-drive seems to take it on acceleration from a stop but the hub-motor get better top-end. The middrive is shifting thru gears while the hubdrive is in high gear all the time. Seems to me the Hub rider can assist greatly with pedal assist... and smoke the mid-drive....?

@TheDudeminator 2 жыл бұрын

How does the hub drive handle uphills?

@aaronmanley7826 2 жыл бұрын

When are you getting your ebike shop all in stock again most stuff are out of stock

@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын

Kirbebike.com is the new shop everything is in stock.

@stevemcgowan3017 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andy .after watching your ebike videos have you. A recommendation of a decent front hub ebike motor for my giant mountain bike.26inch front wheel.I’ve had voilamart before and various controllers.my wife’s Victoria Pendleton ebike has bafang 250watt motor good range but less speed than I had.my 1000watt motor expired.don’t want spend too much.I did get 30mph from a ego power tool battery 56v 😀.Steve in Cheshire

@AnilPatel-sd4nt 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent 👍

@xoxfromth 3 жыл бұрын

Hub seems a whole, hell of a lot more quieter than the mid-drive. That alone is the game changer to me. O.o

@likeher9 3 жыл бұрын

You are spot on mate, yet no one ever mentions this?

@Thadon33 2 жыл бұрын

Which motor creates the least amount of resistance to the rider, while pedaling?

@MrSadler515 3 жыл бұрын

ARRHH the noise from that mid drive !!!!! Also I ditched the de-railer on my silent fs dd hub conversion {fixed in top gear}. 5 years no problem through the woods.

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! I quite like the noise actually 😃 but at the same time I love my other bike with the hub drive which is silent and ridiculously quick!

@dennisyoung4631 3 жыл бұрын

Mobil-28 grease helps (both kinds) in my experience. BBS-HD can be made nearly inaudible by greasing - quieter than a geared hub, in my experience.

@karlfonner7589 3 жыл бұрын

@@dennisyoung4631 How is it that you grease the mid drive? Please answer.

@dennisyoung4631 3 жыл бұрын

@@karlfonner7589 from memory: (might have errors) 1)Remove the side cover. I think it had five 5mm socket head cap screws. 2) if there is grease present, remove as much of the questionable stuff as you can. I used up a fair number of q-tips. Hemostats help. 3) apply Mobil-28 grease, using either a grease gun, or a small spatula. Smear it onto the large gear *thickly.* Warning: this can get messy. 4) reassemble. Note that there are other gears. I did not get at them. My next instance, I will try to lube every gear I can reach! Note-2: Mobil-28 grease is an *aircraft* grease, and hence expensive. I bought mine at Amazon. It was about 23$ for one tube. I plan on getting the (nearly 100$!) tub next time, and repackaging part for sale.

@karlfonner7589 3 жыл бұрын

@@dennisyoung4631 Thank you Dennis I appreciate your help and instructions

@herbertwerner2287 3 жыл бұрын

I there a clear cut winner here out of both bike. Would be nice to have a follow up at the end.

@waynesmith5471 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparison and very informative, look forward to seeing more

@ericklowder6451 3 жыл бұрын

What about the third option internal geared hubs

@CaptApril123 3 жыл бұрын

I think you'd need a mid mount motor for that since it would work exactly the same way as a derailer drivetrain. Unless you mean IGH hub motor, not sure they have those. Hub motors just spin more with applied power, can you gearing inside them?

@swatboy79 2 жыл бұрын

On a mid drive do you need to lift off the throttle before changing gears (like pedalling on a normal bike) to stop chewing especially up hill?

@andykirby 2 жыл бұрын

You should do, some bikes route the gear shift through a sensor that cuts the throttle when you shift.

@notofthisworld7777 3 жыл бұрын

I'll soon have a 1000watt front hub on my middrive bosch I wonder what it'll be like, but the guy says I'll cruise at 30mph 52v battery and bosch 400 battery for middrive

@MrYorcek Жыл бұрын

7:25 electric version of Top Gear Stig 🤣🤣👍

@jasonbrown467 Жыл бұрын

excellent video, except the music, i would prefer to hear the bikes. anyways the concept of this video and its execution was awesome. i wonder what the average hub size is and mid size for that matter. i have several hub motors and people tell me their mid drives can smoke mine on climbs with their 500 to 750 watt mid drives, but i have a qs205 and another 9c 4k hub and can dump 120amp at 75v into them, it is hard to imagine having more torque without breaking the time space continuum. edit: i just seen your name, i have been hearing about you since i built my first bike about a year ago. all good stuff btw lol

@martinfieder726 3 жыл бұрын

Have both, if you are realy Mountainbiking on steeper hills and Mountains only the midrive works, as you have to shift to lower gears. However in rather flat Terrain the hub is a perfect Option.

@dennisyoung4631 3 жыл бұрын

My experience was the BBS-HD had *much* better pulling power compared to a 750 watt hub, and was significantly more efficient regarding power per mile/kilometer. It was also nearly *silent,* even if the hub wasn’t particularly noisy. Mobil 28 grease in both...

@tallcool1jeff 2 жыл бұрын

Midland Motors is far superior to the hub

@ApocGuy Жыл бұрын

would be hub efficient for up to 15 degrees hills? most are under 10, but there are some steep sections where it get 12+... or would it be better to buy 1000/1500 mid drive and get slightly lower top speed?

@dahensta1 3 жыл бұрын

On the vapor, move the thumb throttle to the left side and you may be able to shift gears with the right hand easier.

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm on the left it would feel really weird.

@oze-bikes4life663 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i run a left handed thumb throttle on my ebike with a 11 speed Gear selector on the right. Its initially a little wierd but you do get use to it very quickly, makes changing gears alot easier & quicker. It might be an issue for you andy as you have a mid & Hub Drive ebikes so swapping between those bikes with different cockpit control layouts will be confusing ! 🤔😬

@ash0787 2 жыл бұрын

both excellent bikes, I don't know how you lost the races because mid drive is meant to be faster at all speeds. is his hub really a 1500w ? he overdriving it to 3kw ?

@pitifullyobvious3036 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Andy - great video - Maybe you could release a video on e-bike insurance theft claims. In this week BBC RIP OFF BRITAIN features how e-bike thefts are increasing and victims are not being compensated by their insurance companies for various reasons. For instance many house insurance claims fail because :- a) You haven't specifically listed the e-bike/s as a high value item on your house insurance. b) You haven't used your Insurance Company's SPECIFIED locks on your shed/garage and IN ADDITION THEIR specified bike anti theft cable/chain. Get their recommended anti theft shed locks AND anti theft devices IN WRITING. c) Some insurance companies will NOT meet the claim if you have left your e-bike in the shed/garage unattended for more than six hours. Most of us are away from home during the day at work for EIGHT HOURS. d) The theft occurred outside the boundary of your property. e) You forgot to renew your house insurance or failed to confirm your e-bike was on cover. E-bikes are expensive highly desirable items which can be thrown into a van in minutes and it's gone. They're easy and quick to sell on. If your e-bike is stolen you might like to check the likely avenues where the thief will advertise it. Thieves need to sell it cheap for a quick sale. Get rid of the evidence and get their next fix. I would :- 1. Get a stamp kit and stamp out a number ( your post code ) somewhere on the bike where it can be seen. Heat the stamp and burn your post code on the plastic components/seat so if your e-bike is recovered by the Police you can prove it's your property. Buy and install a security camera that will alert your mobile phone when triggered by an intruder. I would buy a very small mobile phone ( they smuggle them into prisons - £30 ) and hide it possibly under the seat or make a plastic container and screw it on the bike so it looks like it might be part of the electrical system. It can be configured as a tracker. Insurance companies don't like paying out. It's their profit. It's your responsibility to make sure they are nailed down. Get every thing confirmed in writing.

@NakulDesaiTechGuy 3 жыл бұрын

@6:45 LMAO it sounds like a rev limiter

@qaecobitv2295 3 жыл бұрын

Whats the helmet called? mate where u get it?

@garthrobinson2989 2 ай бұрын

Just saw the video of the trek diy build How much for the kit I’m in South africa

@tchaiquentin 3 жыл бұрын

How does a hub drive handle downhill, jumps, etc.,.. how much “weight at the back” does this hub impact the handling with jumps,etc

@OktaFierce 3 жыл бұрын

I have 1000w rear hub and they don't. Its like a ton of bricks landing and you end up destroying the rim. Mid drive if you want to do real mountain biking. A lighter 250w hub might be a touch better than a 1000w but still not good.

@lokz9632 3 жыл бұрын

Can rear hub drive do pedal assist? I am thinking of getting the kit, but I do not want to turn my MTB bicycle to motocycle.

@Crana Жыл бұрын

Yep

@kaydenpierre8166 2 жыл бұрын

Can I put phaserunner on my voilamart 1500 kit

@nonegiven9579 11 ай бұрын

Can you link the batteries your using pls

@shanethrussell 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reviews. Enjoyed many a time. 1 quick question if you have time. Which is quieter? The hub or the mid mount? I suspect the hub right?

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the hub is basically silent, the mid drive is quite noisy actually but I actually quite like the noise🤣

@CaptApril123 3 жыл бұрын

Nice lunch.. this is the way

@xXxserenityxXx 2 жыл бұрын

Same bike as in the frame size, wheel, metal and rider weight?

@navidmehdi6 3 жыл бұрын

I have a mid drive (bbs02) ive never tried a hub drive. That being said i think id rather get the hub because theres less maintenance

@robloxianmanz5047 3 жыл бұрын

If the gears and variability don’t matter as much to you I would definitely go for a hub motor, I currently have the bbs02 set up and have had a hub motor before but I like this one a lot more because of the adjustability on the go. I definitely agree on the maintenance aspect tho it can be a pain if you didn’t know anything about bikes beforehand like I’d did.

@navidmehdi6 3 жыл бұрын

@@robloxianmanz5047 yh i found out the hard way through trial and error abused till it was unrideable the chain ended up slipping with almost no load couldnt even pedal no electric. replaced the chainwheel and it worked for about 1 month then the chain kept jumping off. turns out i had a stretched chain😂😂 never ever replaced the chain since i bought it used 2 years ago. i recently bought a new chain and its smooth like new altho the 2nd and 3rd gear has issues but im just gonna use it on the 4th till i wear out the chain then replace both the chain and cassette togather.

@jagdishkrishnamurthy4867 10 ай бұрын

Replacement arrived!By the way, I did forget to mention that the original lure did have a decent strike however as most anglers will attest you can get a hit kzfaq.infoUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 and fish will hang on and release lure. I used the replacement lure yesterday and ran thru a Shimano Waxwing, Kastmaster, Bobber (set to sink). I found the does run deep (I casting on the flats 3.5'). Make sure you adjust your rate of retrieve and rod tip angle (up) to prevent getting snagged on bottom. Used it a couple of times and action was very lifelike (looked like local bait fish for trevally), craftsmanship very good....however eyeball fell out. I asked for replacement and it is on it's way! It was very easy to change out treble to single inline hook.

@ash0787 3 жыл бұрын

hardest part is finding a mountain bike frame thats wide enough at the back, I bought a fairly old pro mountain bike ( seems to have great suspension etc, strong built ) for 350 off ebay a couple years back, but even a 1,5kw motor takes up so much space at the back that you cant use the rear brake.

@niyaz3644 3 жыл бұрын

Mines fine. Got a 1500w motor on the back with hydraulic brakes. Voodoo hoodoo 2011

@Bboymoped 3 жыл бұрын

What about the other variables not mentioned? That is the differences in your programming between your and Steves phaserunner and also that he is running sensored with halls no? And your still in the sensor less which is bound to impact these tests no? Enjoyed the video and looked mega fun.

@DudeStuff 3 жыл бұрын

There's quite a lot of detail covered in part 2 of my bike build and phaserunner setup in much more detail on my channel

@Bboymoped 3 жыл бұрын

@@DudeStuff yeah I went over to your channel and had a watch of your videos. Look forward to your part 3 and your wee bloopers too had me 😂.

@DudeStuff 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bboymoped 😂 Hopefully be done next week, waited ages for the fabricator to sort the battery tray 🤟🏼

@olivergodlewski4864 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I've got a question, could you build my ebike kit for me and how much would that be and also where are you located if I were to drove to you ?

@andykirby 3 жыл бұрын

really sorry we don't do builds.

@olivergodlewski4864 3 жыл бұрын

That's fine

@attackscorpion5323 2 жыл бұрын

Their are internally geared hub motors, best of both worlds

@a-aron2276 3 жыл бұрын

Hubs all the way, just hit 9000km on my 3kw hub with Zero maintenance 👍🏽

@danielgreen4213 3 жыл бұрын

For the road yes

@SKBKER 3 жыл бұрын

@@danielgreen4213 I ride mine off road fine

@chrisharris7545 3 жыл бұрын

@Julien Karteron following to know too 😂👌

@tallcool1jeff 2 жыл бұрын

Hub Motors can not even make it up small graded Hills I'll take a mid drive any day

@afrobooty4641 2 жыл бұрын

@@tallcool1jeff my cheap 1000w hub climbs hills no problem all day, paid 270 on Amazon. Using a 52v 20ah battery

@timtaomathisen 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a Bike with hub and mid-drive and front motor?

@declan4245 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same

@mahendra5891 3 жыл бұрын

Tug o war them

@adrianjones2761 3 жыл бұрын

I’m after one of you 1500w kit off you store andy but I want to pick your Brain a bit first 😉

@dustinsalmeron5006 2 жыл бұрын

Is this the same watts?

@aldrinrey4322 3 жыл бұрын

mid drive is relax sitting in driving but hub is standinng driving

@SKBKER 3 жыл бұрын

Also hub drive looks nicer than having a stupid big block on your frame, it's quieter and if your chain breaks you can still ride it . Also you can choose an array of different cranks .

@uvwuvw-ol3fg 3 жыл бұрын

Hub motors tend to lead to broken spokes which is harder to repair compared to the chain. The least conspicuous mid-drive still seems to be the Tongsheng TSDZ2, only a bit flimsy, needs constant maintenance, repairs and is losing power on a relatively long moderate hills (can do short and steep hills from a stop only though) since it's made more like a toy than a no-nonsense automotive part which also can be said about more expensive mid drives such and Bosch and Brose.