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Ultra Quiet 12V 1-5KW Chinese Diesel Heater Fuel Pump Upgrade & Review is it good for the van life dream?
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@leopoldpoppenberger8692 11 ай бұрын

different higher frequency base is carrying stronger the old one

@KeithOlson 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! The first thing that came to my mind to make the pump be *MUCH* quieter is to firmly attach a container filled with loose lead shot to the pump itself, then isolate the pump + weight from the structure of the van with foam cushion/very flexible fuel line/etc. That will *DRASTICALLY* reduce vibrations being amplified. Another route is to pick up one of these actual silent pumps that a fellow in the UK makes: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frWGidJ8s5vXnac.html (Email to contact the maker in the description.) Cheers!

@bryansilcox9590 7 ай бұрын

New pump just a bit quieter , not a lot in it thou

@martinballs9785 5 ай бұрын

not worth 30 quid

@shed.projects5150 Жыл бұрын

I have found that the best thing for making the pump SILENT, is to wait until your in your seventy's, and your hearing goes . Works for me. Job done.

@greghohensee4067 Ай бұрын

What?

@sparkiekosten5902 16 күн бұрын

You'll have to speak up I am not wearing any pants!

@romakayak Жыл бұрын

My pump is clad with playdoh, placed insight a 1 litre Ice cream box and mounted vertical. Very quiet, very quiet.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Well that’s a new one on me well done 👍🤓👍👏👏

@PCongeries Ай бұрын

I will try your idea too. Thanks mate

@GSCt1000 2 ай бұрын

Another person on the tubes.. pulled he's heater apart and changed the bearing on the heater fan. That reduces the noise of the fan. He has his heater installed in a garage

@hunter00047 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's not recommended, but my solution has worked for the last 3 years and I can barely hear the pump. It is just to replace that stiff fuel line with model aircraft silicone rubber tubing all the way up to the short back hose that comes with the pump. The pump is suspended with silicon fuel line rubber as well. Once my enclosure is replaced it's peace no ticking. My fuel run is 2 meters. Keep up the good work.👍👍

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

That’s brilliant 👍

@johannesgross1732 2 жыл бұрын

The ticking sound is being transmitted via longitudinal waves along those hard plastic Diesel tubes/hoses. If you want to avoid this you need to build a loop at input and output and hang the pump loosley together with those loops so it can swing freely.

@bhg00 11 ай бұрын

Thats it

@jeffreyhill3960 8 ай бұрын

No change to me.

@steveg2509 6 ай бұрын

pro BS

@cerealtiller 6 ай бұрын

I use a 100 cm. length of rubber Diesel hose (3.5 mm I.D) either side of the Pump..with a loop in it.. the Pump is then very Quiet.

@justinsmith6296 2 жыл бұрын

Your really upping your production quantity your videos lately Mel, nice one 👍

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@karlbigmore7949 Жыл бұрын

Melted load of glue sticks around mine cant hear a thing

@bobvilla4003 Жыл бұрын

The new pump is definitely quieter. Even if folks don't think the difference is worth the 30 pounds, you now have a spare pump. I would think the pump would be one of the more common items to fail / wear out and with a spare already in hand, it is now a no worries situation. Thanks for Sharing and Cheers from San Diego.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy I’m happy to report that the pump is working great and as actually improved now that I have used it for the winter 👍😊👍

@tonyfrancis9793 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel, nice video👍. I suspended my standard pump under the van from a short piece of thick rubber (a peice of a floor squeegee) about 4" long and, once it reached temperature, you just can't hear it at all inside the van, not even in the dead of night! Even when its getting up to temperature the clicking is only faint. I can send pics if interested?

@thomasmarkie7172 Ай бұрын

Can the heater work without a pump if gravity fed.

@lessmith8540 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel, next time you remove the pump, use brake line clamps to squeeze the rubber tubing, then no air in the system or spillage, or having to 're prime the pump. Great vids keep it up.

@kurtwagner16 4 ай бұрын

Or just stick the old on in there for a moment and only switch for the quick change.

@regwatson2017 Жыл бұрын

If I had a little "grizzly" wood heater like that I doubt I'd ever use the diesel heater :-) You are right - the "tick" is much more subtle and peaceful. In fact could soothe me to sleep.

@patriotjoe3110 Жыл бұрын

The foam cases sold online also help reduce the sound. Using a rubber band to suspend it will also help reduce the sound transmission more than the zip ties.

@SpiritCurvesGregor 6 ай бұрын

thanks for all the work in making the vid ... gives me a lot to think on with my utility trailer build out

@BigVanSmallWorld 6 ай бұрын

You’re absolutely welcome thanks for the positive feedback really means so much good luck with your project 👍🤓👍

@debbie62140 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel, it is a tad quieter, but I wouldn't say 'ultra' quiet and certainly not £30 quieter. Although the ticking didn't bother me too much in my T4, I experimented with sound insulation. The best method I found is to build a box out of 20mm softwood big enough for the pump to fit in and pack it loosely with that cheap foam flooring underlay. Then I hung the box with rubber cords scavenged from an old bungee. By the way, your lighting is much better.

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Debbie 👍

@ericbrockhus2518 Жыл бұрын

That was exactly what I was gonna comment here. Well done.

@Bovine-em8uy Жыл бұрын

I find the fan is far louder than the ticking pump

@markward38 10 ай бұрын

Hi Mel, thx for the science experiment mate. It gave me food for thought. I did hear someone say recently how they wrapped the pump in heat sponge and lead sheeting and it also reduced significant noise too

@beyouvanlife Жыл бұрын

I am just going to be installing my heat in the next weeks coming. I may try to build a small soundproof box around my pump. I have also seen some people putting sound reading material attached to the pump itself. I may try these two things. This video was so helpful.

@michaelweller6097 2 жыл бұрын

I used some of the foam out of the diesel heater box to wrap round the pump and cable tied it that seems to have worked pretty well

@recentlyretired 2 ай бұрын

Pack it with Roxul insulation , or do what I did, pack insulation all around it then I bought a small job box , insulated the walls Floor and lid , then added 16 gauge steel over the insulation. I cut holes for exhaust tube and for air intake and outlet , I keep it outside tent and you don’t know it’s even on , the job box keeps Rain and snow out

@philiproots5530 2 жыл бұрын

another quality vid mate, keep em coming spot on .

@philwilliams23 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. New pump definitely quieter tick.

@obieoberstar 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for the videos. that pump does sound like an improvement.

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

@CombatDoc54 Жыл бұрын

Huge difference!! Good video. Very informative.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@franklealand1181 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely worth it .Anything that helps you get a decent night's sleep is worth paying a bit for . Keep up the good work

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely rite there 👍🤓👍

@howardandjoanne8979 2 жыл бұрын

The new pump doesn't have as deep a thump as the original but don't think I'd be replacing ours. Great vlog as usual Mel 😁

@Brian-Boru 2 жыл бұрын

New one is defo gentler, another great video mel

@jonathandickson5055 Жыл бұрын

Definitely quieter. For those interested in quieting the motor by boxing it in remember density is what deadens sound. A metal or plasterboard box will deaden the sound far more than any kind if foam or fibre. Pvc is surprisingly good too, and of course suspend rather than fix to any solid surface.

@ianemery7785 2 жыл бұрын

Mel, please consider replacing those worm drive Jubilee type clips on your heater fuel hoses for proper fuel line clips as they give a much better and more reliable seal.

@driveandsurvive Жыл бұрын

Nice work and good to see you got a result. If possible, I recommend placing the fuel metering pump outside the van - on the underside close to the fuel tank. And as Johannes said, it's also about hard surfaces transferring the noise of the magnetically charged piston action. That equates to the rubber mount you have in place for the pump and additionally, soft mounting the hard fuel line leading from the pump to the heater injector. This hard fuel line cannot be substituted for a soft line on the discharge side of the pump, as its hardness maintains the pump pressure - so your stuck with that. On the safety side of things, I'd also recommend not placing the heater in a location that obscures direct access to, or sight of the unit (often caused by attempts to isolate the noise of the fuel pump by enclosing the unit) and have a serviceable fire extinguisher within the van at all times. Thanks for the good work and keep them coming.

@FergusNCasey 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel. definitely the new one is quieter. Anything that helps with the nights sleep is worth the investment.

@robtrueblood853 2 жыл бұрын

Mel As always great video love to you and Rebecca x

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy rite back at ya 🙏

@techtinkerin Жыл бұрын

I saw a video where someone used a silent pump that squished a tube like a dialysis machine and it was 100 percent silent. I'd put it outside in a rubber box! 👍😎

@Rikke71 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. I did consider the guiter pump....dont think i bother after seeing this...not so much diffrense. I did cover mine whit sound damping material. Thanks.

@helenjeffontheroad5313 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel. Another great video. Yes I'd say that the new pump is a little quieter, but not much.

@Bennytet Жыл бұрын

The new pump is quieter overall! Nice one!

@manondeslauriers2645 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I am learning so much!

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely welcome thank you for watching 👍🤓👍

@peregrinatorperegrinatorx7108 Жыл бұрын

Is softer, but not £30 softer, oh need to look else where, thanks for making the video.

@lanehorsey5053 Ай бұрын

Don't have a heater yet but i think i would surround the pump with a cardboard tube then encapsulate that in roofing insulation/ sound deadening carpet or maybe even expanding foam. thanks for your inspiration.

@BigVanSmallWorld Ай бұрын

Sounds like a great idea 👍🤓👍

@alantouchwood 2 жыл бұрын

new one much softer Mel would purchase it cheer for the video most helpful keep up the good work my friend

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy 👍

@noseybastard6049 2 жыл бұрын

if you were to hang the pump with a piece of paracord or a boot lace it would help to reduce noise that cable ties transmit

@kevinthepilgrim5441 2 жыл бұрын

Nice experiment Mel.

@johnboy4067 2 жыл бұрын

Your a great guy Mel and really enjoy your channel , so many thanks old son

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@gordonmoorcroft5368 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel another great video it’s definitely quieter but still noisy someone else had made one in the uk I think it’s about £100 in his garage if you can find that keep up the great work

@HILUXCHAINSAW Жыл бұрын

Wrap bubble wrap around the pump, put the wrapped pump in a box and fill the box with expanding foam. Then fix the box to the wall with screws going through rubber grommets. If the pump ever needs changing you can just pull of the foam off and the pump will still be clean inside the bubble wrap.

@daveglick5152 Жыл бұрын

A LOT BETTER. NOW YOU HAVE A SPARE PUMP. CHEERS

@tommotomlinson3370 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel...by their design it's a metal piston twacking against a metal face to get the dose, you'll always get a tick until they change the design and maybe put a rubber(or something) face inside the pump, I have mine mounted underneath my van, suspended on thin rubber bungees, so much quieter inside 👍 Great vid to start discussions 🤙

@loubakker5049 Жыл бұрын

Commented your idea. Heater also out side ?

@englishrupe01 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thanks.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@ianhaggart1438 Жыл бұрын

Fit pipe insulation over the pump and pipework makes things so much better

@patricka5706 Жыл бұрын

Great Job.... every decibel counts at the end the day... I thinks it's a win... P.S. I would also try wrapping a noise proof foam around the pump also as it won't effect function but lesson the transfer noise from the metal on metal inside pump.

@andrewchalmers7422 Жыл бұрын

My diesel tank filter and pump are out side of the vehicle and the heater is enclosed in it's Own space under a seat . My noise is only fan noise.. CHEERS 🍻

@vanlifenomadfirekeeper Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking about making a insulated box to cover the pump to make it quite. I just installed mine today. I've seen others put the pump under there van.

@iandyke3814 Жыл бұрын

Hi definitely a tad quieter. I found if you put the hard plastic pipe inside a slightly larger rubber pipe it really helps to stop the resonance emitted from the hard plastic .

@MrWalbudri 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Mel.. have a great sunday

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy

@hugocastellano1962 15 сағат бұрын

Mel. Enjoy your videos but diesel heaters are not pressurised. It's a drip feed no pressure. 😊

@kenzaleski5198 Жыл бұрын

Just watched your vid. I think the new pump may be a few dB quite, but the bigger difference in sound comes from the frequency/pitch. The old pump was definitely lower in hz, lower frequencies travel farther and are also felt more than higher frequency sounds at the same dB level. Best of luck.....Cheers!

@kamikazekunze Жыл бұрын

Mel, I got to say. I do love watching your videos. They are entertaining and informative. What I really want though…..where can I get a pair of those fancy pants your wearing? Comfort and function in one package? 😂

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😂👍

@vaneboating4949 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. I just discovered your channel. I really enjoyed this video. I think the new one ticks in a lower pitch and therefore is a more pleasant, less distributing noise.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy for taking the time to comment really appreciate your feedback 👍

@colinlawrence2186 Жыл бұрын

Hi Mel try this take a paper/cardboard egg carton and make a box around the pump it will keep the sound contained in the box cheap and easy Take care stay safe and God bless you 🙋‍♂️🇬🇧🇺🇸

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Thank you but not necessary it’s quiet as a mouse now

@PaulGloverHowDo 2 жыл бұрын

Certainly a little quieter, only a suggestion Mel but try wrapping the pump in a pair of the gaiters, them that hikers use on the bottom of there legs to stop stones ect getting in there boots. I came up with that thought whilst watching your vid, going to try it myself now, 👍

@elldees4071 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel, Great video yet again, the new one seems quieter but it isn’t silent as advertised 😂🤣 👍🏼

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@michaelbritton2331 Жыл бұрын

happy new year Mel the new pump is definitely quieter.i was interested in the sound track you played while moving your personal effects?thanks for the time it took you to make the video.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Watch tonight’s video 👍🤓👍

@1elizabeth16 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mel, thanks for the test, put my pump under the van, also bought a rubber pump housing off fleabay which also knocks a couple of db's off the ticking. Cant hear mine at all. Keep up the good work mate

@jacktobin7995 7 күн бұрын

Guy a link to the rubber housing?

@diesel-heater-Free-Heat 7 ай бұрын

I had the same issue of tick tick driving me mad. So bought the plastic cover that covers the pump. Then with old feather pillow. Not sponge! Then wrapped the pump with 4 12 inch bungee straps. It’s totally silent and safe as the pumps don’t run hot. Then use your cable tie like I do to suspend it. Your be amazed. You see films were pillows are used to silence gun fire. Same principle. 😀

@BigVanSmallWorld 7 ай бұрын

Nice 👍

@garrystacey7018 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel New pump is quieter interesting video thank for sharing 👍

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely welcome Thank you for taking the time to comment 🙏

@alangarner4095 Жыл бұрын

Yes the new one is a little better. But the good thing is you now have a spare one if you have any trouble and no waiting for it . 👍🏻😎👍🏻

@andysmith5050 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel I've purchased a fuel pump from a guy who makes his own diaphragm pumps, absolutely 100% silent....£120 but a cracking bit of kit, real game changer... Maybe you're already on the case....

@aengus.l Жыл бұрын

Hi pal have you got any info on where to buy one please?

@GrantKify Жыл бұрын

The new pump is definitely quieter👍👍👍👍👍

@lucidity7983 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve recently got a van with a deisel heater in, I’ve always had woodburners before so know nothing about them. I had been wondering if they run on red though so I was pleased to see you using it which leads me to believe it’ll be just fine yaay! 😄

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Yes they work fine on red 👍

@JohnSmith-jg2rj 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel Came across a youtuber who put his pump in the engine bay no noise no issues

@rogertaylor2924 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel the pump noise also resonates along the hard nylon fuel pipe... So anything the pipe touches also amplifies the noise! This is best damped by sleeving both pump and pipe in soft foam pipe insulation such as armour flex and not P clipping it to the van structure! Try it!

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy

@itsallfabrication 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely an improvement Mel. It's probably worth the money to some people.

@rolandshepherd6461 2 жыл бұрын

Much better QUALITY noise more acceptable for the nerves Keep up the excellent videos Cheers Roland from Encounter Bay South Australia

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Roland 👍🤓👍

@robertoc9136 Жыл бұрын

I apologize for prejudiced comment that assumed this video was like other YT "how-to's". Indeed, this is the rare useful video, although the first six minutes is throwaway. Also consider editing out the brief idle bits. Well done in any case.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

Thank you Robert

@howardtennant5766 7 ай бұрын

New pump definitely a little quieter probably worth buying as you've now got the original as a spare

@davidwalker9302 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely quieter than the old pump😀

@truckerallister9080 Жыл бұрын

The most silent way to do so, is to put the diesel pump outside of the van a little above the fuel tank still is the best option, all trucks have them outside the truck.

@sm7091bs Жыл бұрын

I did it very simple to ours. Use a car radiator hose. I am into the automotive sector. So i could get one what perfectly fits around the pump. Only the connector part could not fit. Put at the other site whats is free another thick rubber hose into the bigger one so that a lot of the pump is covered with rubber. Big difference according old situation. You can hear it ofcourse but a huge difference than before and at a very comfy level. Think simpel…..

@Retiredkiwi Жыл бұрын

In a similar vain, 2 of mine are in short pieces of lead waste pipe, with a heavy white fiberglass(i think) insulation stuffed in the ends, and suspended from rubber hangers, which dropped the noise level a fair bit. Another system has a pump that was claimed to be quieter, bought from heatport(new zealand) called a type E (22mls/SKU: HP-10788 Brand: HEATPORT), which makes a similar difference to the one shown here, so thinking i will try a lead case on it next as well. Also going to try a lead pipe muffler, as using a 1m length on my old Chinese 5kw diesel generator, shut it up considerably.

@iverson2977 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual, I think you might be right about the difference only being the pitch of the click is more like a clock now but £30 is alot of money for such a small improvement. Thanks for sharing so we know not to waste our money 😂👍

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely welcome 🙏

@rafo6577 Жыл бұрын

You can get these pumps for half that price. There are covers available for these pumps too, that help deaden the sound and also protect the pump if mounting on the underside of the vehicle.

@Andy-se4sl 2 жыл бұрын

Build a box for it too maybe?? With some fancy sound proof material? 🤔

@Smooth327 Жыл бұрын

I think its worth it, as its always nice to have extra pump and glow plug around. If you already had an extra diesel pump then i would say not worth it but it’s amazing what measures we will go to make something more comfortable and for that its worth it 100 percent mate!

@darenmcallister3417 Жыл бұрын

I would put it in a foam tube an tape it up to deaden the noise.

@andrewrobinson9453 2 жыл бұрын

Another great interesting vid Mel, I do wonder why a silent pump car'nt be made in this day and age, thanks again for sharing your knowledge

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@tonyrichard2705 2 жыл бұрын

Looking like my eberspacher pump

@rshutterbug47 5 ай бұрын

It For Sure Sounds Better To Me 👍👍👍😜

@BigVanSmallWorld 5 ай бұрын

Yes definitely an improvement

@loz1317 2 жыл бұрын

New one is definitely quieter 👍job well done😁

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍🤓👍

@tradmanmike3360 Жыл бұрын

All good ideas! Could you wrap the pump in the same rubber/foil baking the pump lies against to make it even quieter?

@elfillari Жыл бұрын

Definitely more quiet. Discant up noise is more around than old knocking. Also the bottom sound is lighter with thinner ambience!

@MrPlasma01 2 жыл бұрын

there is no high pressure side on the pump also it should be outside underneath away from sleeping areas.

@flybobbie1449 5 ай бұрын

I ended up wrapping that recycled rag insulation around pump then dropped down inside box housing above heater. Only at night when quiet could i hear pump, but not usually on.

@joegriffin6699 Жыл бұрын

£16 on ebay, Jan 23, but, like you say, is it worth the messing. Great video Mel. I'd have used kitchen towel/paper and binned it. Save on the washing.

@jamie-hb8gy Жыл бұрын

The new pump definitely has a nice tick and not a clack like the old one.

@BigVanSmallWorld Жыл бұрын

It’s even better now it’s been used for a while 👍

@russholah 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mel, you been watching willswhereabouts! Mine is outside on a Ducato forward of main fuel tank with sender on main tank and suspended like yours but also double suspended using the rubber mount as well with cable ties, can’t here it at night all. I have seen some channels where they have made a sound proof box suspended with para cord inside the box and silent coat lined, worth a try. Love the channel better than mainstream prime-time TV

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy that’s really kind of you 🤓👍

@mentalneil 2 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, yeah new one is slightly quieter than the old, though the proof in the pudding would be does it resonate through your pillows while sleeping, and only two people can confirm that, your good self and the better half Becky, all the best mucca

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

That’s if Becky gets lucky 😂👍

@russellzavala8093 6 ай бұрын

It’s a little quieter. Try using sound deadening Materials to encase it.

@CihaPet 7 ай бұрын

From the audio samples provided, the old one is definitely louder.

@skookumjack 2 жыл бұрын

New one is quieter, and a lower note too.... Your call on if it's worth the 30 notes Mel!

@BigVanSmallWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@ExpediteTravels 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds a little bit quieter but if you can sleep with it on with the old pump and want to save $30 go for it Personally my all-in-one 8 kW Chinese diesel heater the pump actually puts me to sleep kind of reminds me of a clock ticking after a while I don't even hear it which is kind of Funny It's usually the time I have the most problem sleeping is my 1st night back in the Van after I'd been on some hometime trying to get reused to the sounds again