@@johncappella1216 yes but he misunderstood what COAM really is.

Yes, thanks very much. Good stuff

Thanks!👍 How do it looks in full speed?

@@garre71I’ll do full speed soon. Cover a few more things then I play shots on my par 3 holes in my yard. I built a couple holes and used my own synthetic turf I made. I’ll do a video on that. You can play the green in 20 below zero and the green is almost a receptive as a summer day.

I think it’s easy to explain but difficult to be understood When not in person. Two different things. People used to hammer Lee, especially on forums. Lee always said what he was doing. There’s a lot of misinformation out there and I know for a fact much of it is intentional, that’s what irks me. But you do a great job, love your channel

@@frozendivots1564 thanks frozen when you break what your doing down and what I’m doing we have many similar motions. It’s all how you present it and how your presentation is perceived, we control 50% the other we have no control over. Stay cool brother it’s hot as crap here in Tennessee right now. Have a great weekend!!

I wouldn’t recommend a twist or a pull. The skater is conserving, we are not. We are not spinning circles and gaining speed inward. Her shape change is in conservation, not gain. That’s velocity gain, not momentum gain. She gains all of her momentum without really a shape change, because she’s going in circles. I’ve got more info in other videos here and much more in others ones if I can find them.

@@frozendivots1564ok, well I’ve no idea what you mean then. First: The skater draws her hands and arms in close to her body and her angular speed increases due to conservation of angular momentum, that’s not my opinion, thats physics. Now when she draws her hands in close to her body then I’m calling that a “change of shape” but I don’t think you are calling it that. Define “change of shape”. Second: bracing against the ground like an anchor point and “twisting” or rotating or turning or whatever word we use is causing the angular momentum in the system to increase, we inject momentum through our effort, so the momentum starts at zero at address and builds up to impact or slightly before maybe. Your idea of momentum building also seems to be something different. Define what you mean when you say the momentum is building as opposed to conserving. You do realise that before momentum can be conserved that it has to be built up or accumulated. What I said in my previous comment is fairly clear I hope but your language is not clear to me at all but of course it’s not simple either. By the way your right arm action video helped me to start to compress the ball at last. I can’t seem to hit it high though, lowish penetrating spinny bullets which I can live with 😊 so thank you again

@@frozendivots1564.. when you say she gains all of her momentum I think you mean speed. In physics angular momentum is angular speed multiplied by mass. However there is moment of inertia also which brings in the shape of the spinning object. The terms are very specific. As the skater draws her arms close and her angular speed increases her momentum is not increasing or decreasing, it is the same. It’s just that she has redistributed her mass which is now “easier” to rotate so the speed rises but the underlying momentum remains the same, anyhow sorry for all the words!

@@cdunne1620 the skater does what I said, I am talking about her pulling of arms in. Thats conserving. She already has the momentum. Now she conserves for velocity. We don’t start in a circle and shrink the same shape. We change shape. Our shape changes the entire swing. How we do that matters. We never get to conserve. Our address shape through impact is change. So we build angular momentum different than a skater spinning in circles. Not sure why my idea of building momentum is ‘different’. Of course we inject angular momentum through effort. The reason you are hitting it low is because your compression isn’t working the club UP. Remember, the videos are answer to a larger group email so I will do another video to fill in that blank. Down is up and up is down. We don’t swing in a spiral, that’s an illusion.

@@cdunne1620 that’s what I said. I used velocity. The angular velocity increases. She already has momentum. She got that from her skate ‘path’.

There is no such thing as a true ‘pull’ anywhere, let alone in golf. Bringing something closer to you in orientation, yes, but that action is a push as well. If you ‘pull’ a wagon, your hand is on the other side of the handle pushing it. So I’ll use pull in orientation terms but it’s really a push. And the more compressive the move is (appearing as a pull), the better. Now someone will say gravity, a magnet, etc is a pull. Those are pushes. Put a golf ball on a water bed then set a bowling ball next to it. The heavy bowling ball deforms the bed and the bed will push the golf ball to the bowling ball, if it’s close enough. Planets are pushed, not pulled. You are being compressed to the Earth. So there was a deformation and compression there. So when we change shape in a swing, we want compression. Even pitching ball. Its compressed. Trying pitching a wet ball. Lose compression and you are in trouble. When I am with people golfing I’ll say ‘that was a wet ball’ and they know what I mean. They lost compression or never got it to begin with. But obviously we use the word pull, be too confusing not to. This is a good analogy/image- ‘pull’ a wagon into you but keep going and change shape and ‘push’ it away. See what your arm did?

I don’t have a wagon, lol but I just pretended I did and it did exactly what you said. Brilliant.

@@DennyForrest-pk4kh I did a video a few years back with a wagon and showed that and I got banned and it never was posted. 😅😅😅

It depends on if you are in a position to leverage like that early. You load shaft on backswing and the first part of downswing and when you compress, you’ve got some speed and shaft load there. Not sure what you by standard swing but there is little compression there, as I see a standard swing.

@@frozendivots1564I guess that first part of downswing on the splay release video

@@frozendivots1564this is all very interesting to me because I swing it weak all over the course and shoot low 90’s to high 80’s ….this is definatly a much more powerful feeling for me and I can’t wait to try this playing

@@spondiveswandive561 yes you have to work on torsion and when to use it. I’ll do an another video on why you don’t want it early, from a technical point of view. It’s because of the symmetry of what/where is being ‘torqued’. We aren’t cylinders so the effect is different. Our arm has multiple bones and will react differently under torsion. So we have a certain part of the swing arc where it is good and a certain part where it is bad.

@@spondiveswandive561 I’d start with short high torsion pitch shots…just fool around on a practice green for a bit.