Kyrie left off NBA's Top 75 players list - Skip & Shannon react | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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2 жыл бұрынThe NBA finished unveiling their list of the 75 greatest players in league history and Kevin Durant and James Harden were both included, but their teammate Kyrie Irving was not. Andre Iguodala wasn’t a fan of that decision and took to Twitter to post 'So y’all saying Kyrie Irving ain’t top 75? I agree… he's top 20 at least'. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe share their thoughts on the list and whether Kyrie was snubbed.
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Kyrie left off NBA's Top 75 players list - Skip & Shannon react | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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@UndisputedOnFS1 2 жыл бұрын
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@carnagebandzz2793 2 жыл бұрын
Shanon needs a drug test immediately
@MichaelSmith-bw1vm 2 жыл бұрын
I would say it's definitely not 75 players better than Kyrie Irving but accomplishments wise and being the leader of a team that's where I agree he's not a top 75
@carnagebandzz2793 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie and Dwight over ad and dame
@blessedowo1958 2 жыл бұрын
Yo where TF is Brian Scalabrine
@jaytaylor3273 2 жыл бұрын
Skip talks to much about feelings, same way he disrespected Owens because he doesn’t like him. He is a stereotypical reporter that gets revenge or expresses their jealousy for not being athletic by punishing players they don’t like with their vote. Your emotions do not matter
@217ShowOffBoii 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight is the 1st player to win DPOY 3x in a row, led the league in rebounds and blocked shots. Despite him being a role player for a few years now, he's still averaging 12 rebounds for his career.
@dionwilliams7798 2 жыл бұрын
And he led a team to the finals even tho he lost to prime Kobe. Dwight is really a legend
@jamanwashington6426 2 жыл бұрын
Also he the youngest nba player to win dpoy
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
The problem Dwight has against him we can name probably 10 centers that had had better careers, even longer "peaks" Dwight had maybe a 5 year period. But we can name 10 centers who were better for longer.
@217ShowOffBoii 2 жыл бұрын
@V Beard Like who? He accomplished a lot in his short prime and always showed out in the playoffs.
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
The obvious ones Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, and Shaq. Ewing had a longer peak, David Robinson, Moses Malone, Alonzo Mourning, Hakeem Olajuwan, Dan Issel, Dikembe Mutombo (maybe not in scoring, but blocks and rebounding) all had better careers. Looking at the all time stats list Dwight Howard isn't even in the top 10 in any of them. At least one if not multiple are in the top 10 for points, total rebounds, assists, steals, blocks. You're going to tell me that he deserves to be a top 75 player when he has now played in the league 17 years and isn't even in the top 10 in any category that multiple of these centers I named are? Stop it.
@a.fields9789 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight absolutely was respected while in Orlando. The only person not liking him then was Shaq 😂
@jeromejohnson25 2 жыл бұрын
Super facts, shaq prob reason he was left off list.
@613trapman5 2 жыл бұрын
Even in Houston he was pretty good
@BoboKoyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeromejohnson25 that doesn't even make sense, shaq doesn't dictate or make the list.
@Ironmanx37 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeromejohnson25 I can see that🤣
@rozay2437 2 жыл бұрын
And Stan Van Gundy😂😂😂
@taylorjones8520 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight definitely deserves top 75. 3 time DPOY is unreal.
@MrVaDelux 2 жыл бұрын
Most def, there was a period where dwight was the best center in the league, if u played him you knew he was getting 20 points and 15 rebounds no questions
@mattsullivan8811 2 жыл бұрын
That was 10 years ago . He is not top 75
@biggboi3932 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattsullivan8811 dude 50 of the players played 20 years ago
@mattsullivan8811 2 жыл бұрын
@@biggboi3932 I spoke without realizing what I was talking about . Thought it was top 75 today . Dwight absolutely top 75 all time
@Cream-2128 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight and T-Mac got shafted. If pistol Pete makes it I don’t want to hear about longevity
@danestivers4342 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon: “he hit a shot-“ Skip: “he hit a BIG shot…” Skip clowning hard af 🤡
@seowth 2 жыл бұрын
I love how hard Shannon took up for Dwight from the get go.
@CriusXI 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s facts, Dwights prime is iconic and his resume backs it up. Idk how they didn’t put him in there.
@g.o.a.t.8168 2 жыл бұрын
Yea cz he was the snub that should've actually made it He was the Top 5 player in the league when he was competing with guys Kobe LeBron D-Wade & CP3
@seowth 2 жыл бұрын
@@g.o.a.t.8168 And not a couple of years ago people were slandering his name, cast out by the Lakers. All when he had his back issues. 🙄
@zelgie3013 2 жыл бұрын
@@g.o.a.t.8168 most likely because he doesn't take basketball seriously and he doesn't love it. You can tell in the years he bounced around that he stopped trying. That's what ousted him from the list.
@str8duval 2 жыл бұрын
@@zelgie3013 I think a lot of that was just fans taking sides. Apparently he and Kobe didn't get along much and kobe's fan base is a lot bigger. It didn't come out until later that Dwhite was playing injured most of that season. Similar situation playing with James harden but now the narrative on Harden is the rockets gave him everything he wanted Which is different from the narrative back then.
@AsapWave 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight averaged a double double in points and rebounds for 13 straight yrs! This is blasphemous.
@1990758 2 жыл бұрын
Not good enough
@theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple DPOY, All NBA 1st Team Defensive Team , He Took a honorable L in the finals to a HUNGRY PRIME KOBE , but to be a 20-25 ppg and 12-15 Rpg guy for like 5-7 years with the accolades and not to mention the BLOCKS . He's TOP 75 BRO
@JonReynoldsESQ 2 жыл бұрын
It's sort of outrageous that he didn't make this list.
@calilove3107 2 жыл бұрын
It's based on who they like. Politics as usual.
@raekwonbarnes8310 2 жыл бұрын
You crazy dude was trash after failing in Orlando
@KyleC11 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie was dropping huge numbers during that entire Cavs playoff run. He didnt just hit "a shot". He and Lebron both dropped 41pts each in Game 7
@ThomasMark-zw3nw 2 жыл бұрын
Still doesn't justify top 20 or 75 all-time
@UPxYOURs2 2 жыл бұрын
Still ain’t no top 75🤷♂️
@Freshbngwtr 2 жыл бұрын
And what has he done since playing with Lebron?
@ThomasMark-zw3nw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Freshbngwtr not a thang
@wym348 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasMark-zw3nw The 2018 Celtics were the best time in the East and the only team that was able to be competitve w/ the Warriors in the regular season that year. Curry stated "we'll see them in June" after a game implying a Finals match-up. Kyrie was a top MVP candidate whose scoring numbers had slight dipped but his assists/rebounds went up. He was league leader in defensive rating until his knee injury. When healthy and fully loaded KD and Kyrie are gonna win titles
@erickmoy3944 2 жыл бұрын
Joe Dumars was left off the top 75 greatest players list. A great player and a class act!
@primeminister66 2 жыл бұрын
Detrooooiiiiiitttt Basket-Baallllllllll
@shlidgn90 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@terancemiller4639 2 жыл бұрын
Its about who they personally like, not whose best
@Patton001 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes, never thought about him but his resume just punched me in the face
@dreg5845 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but kyrie is better
@jmoses5480 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having Dwight Howard’s resume and someone telling you your greatest achievement was being a role player for 15 minutes a night
@yvans. 2 жыл бұрын
@alexander harvey Skip is old asf
@xCallxMExJJx 2 жыл бұрын
Well technically. He was the more valuable as a role player beside LeBron and AD than he was as the number 1 option. Nothing wrong with that not everyone can be Superman 🤭😉
@christopherblack5869 2 жыл бұрын
@@FrankWhite248 he is. He's said many times how good Dwight is and even compared him to Shaq in 2010
@immanuel3694 2 жыл бұрын
Shay really started the segment with "Stop this" 😂😂😂
@solo6088 2 жыл бұрын
He only does it every week crazy right 😜
@loststoryproductions 2 жыл бұрын
And he was right, Iggy is out his damn mind lol
@donmike2810 2 жыл бұрын
@@loststoryproductions Kyrie is top 75 though. Hes wrong about that. Him and Dwight.
@loststoryproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@donmike2810 No iggy said TOP 20 and he's most certainly out his mind
@agrey832 2 жыл бұрын
He's right though 😂🤣
@johnfrancistiuagda4839 2 жыл бұрын
I love this segment. Obviously, Shannon wins this one but man Skip 😂 the poker face all throughout the session. That's why almost everybody loves this show.
@cycleoflife565 2 жыл бұрын
That ain’t a poker face. It’s Botox.
@chimasmith8108 2 жыл бұрын
I remember how jrue holiday locked Damian lilard up in the second round when AD still played for the Pelicans, nobody never locked kyrie up for a whole series
@cycleoflife565 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie has had a career full of opportunities to show how he can be the first option on a successful team that can advance in the playoffs.
@melanatedgod5337 2 жыл бұрын
@@cycleoflife565 and he failed time and time again.
@sparshpandey1450 2 жыл бұрын
@@melanatedgod5337 exactly . when cleveland had chance to win back to back to back championship with bron, kyrie and love but kyrie decided to leave cuz he wanted to be the main man and ended up failing badly with the celtics and now is failing with the nets
@que8170 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie wasn’t making it to the series😂
@zamorant9129 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparshpandey1450 you didn’t even know the Cavs tried to trade kyrie for Paul George after they won the chip
@GodKnowsWhatIsInHere 2 жыл бұрын
Nick Wright made a great point. This meant Dwight Howard would've made the list if he had retired a few years earlier and that makes absolutely no sense. Your greatness shouldn't decrease the longer you stay in the league.
@patrick553 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares?? A list vs. giving up millions of dollars to retire early
@WilliamDailyReacts 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrick553 and lose out on a championship
@shyshka_ 2 жыл бұрын
yep, a stupid list that doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things or missing out on millions and the experience of a championship. If I'm Dwight I don't care about the list at the end of the day tbh
@Fsojack 2 жыл бұрын
It does make some sense, the more you play you could ruin or jeopardize your career.
@joebidens_touchyhands9477 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped reading your statement when I read "Nick Wright made a great point".
@corpyhogan4433 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie wasn’t even the biggest snub. It was easily Dwight Howard, he has a better resume than both kyrie and lillard and there’s no argument you can make for either one of them being on the list over Howard
@andrewmcgill9544 2 жыл бұрын
Correct..it's insanity.
@dreezy1270 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong biggest snub is Klay!
@amirahmednur1631 2 жыл бұрын
You out your mind if you don’t think Kyrie is a better player than Dwight. Media loves diminishing his legacy because they never gave him the accolades, they can never lose because they decide. The actual players know what’s going on. Shannon said Kai was never considered the best pg? Why don’t he ask LeBron in 2016 who he thought the best pg was, he said Kai was the best pg in the league.
@taxationistheft7047 2 жыл бұрын
@@dreezy1270 Dwight accomplished more
@TheRprince07 2 жыл бұрын
@@amirahmednur1631 kyrie is not better then dwight all time
@edgarescobar2788 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon disrespecting Kyrie. You don't need to bring Kyrie down to say Dwight was snubbed as well. Kyrie was snubbed. Simple.
@Nocing 2 жыл бұрын
No he wasn’t he not too 75 stop it😂
@Coldskin1 2 жыл бұрын
Not even better than donovan mitchell😆
@TrueCarbon 2 жыл бұрын
Facts Shannon hating on kyrie he was snubbed and he’s top 7 in the NBA easy.
@lilboomacklin4734 2 жыл бұрын
He belong on that list point blank period
@themaskedmagic1783 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueCarbon Nice bait
@Sweatsofficiallytheworst 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie being off the list isn't really surprising, Man has had amazing games, handles for days, but what has he really done in his career other than hit one big shot in the finals?
@murphydaquan 2 жыл бұрын
He was supposed to be on it. They had a video for it. They left him off on purpose
@raybandz1109 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight is not on the list confused me .. took a team to the finals
@murphydaquan 2 жыл бұрын
@@raybandz1109 disrespectful
@hanknkosi5578 2 жыл бұрын
Score 41 in a game six NBA finals ,be so important that LeBron didn't win the 2015 finals, be the reason for the Brooklyn Nets being the favourites
@allenm5057 2 жыл бұрын
Um same for dame ???????
@walidchouai6094 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight howard not being on that list is a travesty
@stopcampin4097 2 жыл бұрын
Yea ad made it but not Dwight that’s bad bro
@christophershanklin112 2 жыл бұрын
Versatile Wolf Dwight at his peak was a better player
@joeblow5438 2 жыл бұрын
100 percent bro!!! Skips argument being the fact that Dwight was disliked is a joke. This list is about these guys play. Not wether or not they were liked. Insane that Dwight is not on this lost
@Michael.Miles1 2 жыл бұрын
Travesty or transversty.....? 🤣🤣
@zelgie3013 2 жыл бұрын
@Tong Zou so did Jimmy butler for the heat but he ain't on the list either because that's not how they are picked.
@priztucker 2 жыл бұрын
Shay: "Skiup HE HIT A SHOT!" Skip: "He's Uncle Drew!" Me: 🤣🤣
@sunke_themilkgod-131happyd2 2 жыл бұрын
Me: uncle drew play in the nba
@stifler5062 2 жыл бұрын
Mxm.skip stupid
@johnsondailysports1341 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Shannon on some kind of drugs
@rinowatson 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsondailysports1341 naw you on the drugs
@vjrz8472 Жыл бұрын
@@rinowatsonkid shut up kyrie top 75 over Curry
@jamelll7361 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon made a good point about Kyrie making a “big shot” but you can say the same for Dame putting OKC out of the playoffs. But if do the research Kyrie has actually had a better career than Dame but he still made the 75 list. No disrespect to Dame, he’s a great player but he shouldn’t have made this list over Kyrie
@jthesnip3r90 2 жыл бұрын
No he didn’t Dame made the playoffs more times than kyrie did and hit more clutch shots than kyrie
@gandalfhodl8723 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie can’t even make the playoffs without another top 5 player… when the East was WEAK. Extremely talented but overrated to me.
@Shadow-ox7wv 2 жыл бұрын
@@gandalfhodl8723 no player can make the playoffs without another star
@Shadow-ox7wv 2 жыл бұрын
@@jthesnip3r90 it’s not only about clutch shots, kyrie hit probably the most clutch shot of all time
@jthesnip3r90 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-ox7wv no he didn’t ray Allen did it was a big shot but it was still chances and he’s done nothing since wanting to leave Lebron
@AsianEyes007 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no debate on Dwight being on the list, I feel that even though Kyrie doesn’t have much of a resume, his skills and talents should be more than enough for him to make the list. He is easily the most skilled player in the league; best ball handler, one of the best and most efficient shot creators, incredible ball passing, incredible finishing at the rim, and great one on one defender. But I guess his reputation is that much of a factor in votings and selections 🤷🏻
@Geneboie 10 ай бұрын
absolutely terrible take. Dwight howard has a worse reputation and didnt make it either but his resume is so much more stacked than kyrie. Ive been a kyrie fan and think he has the best handles all time but he just hasnt done enough to make top 75. He would make top 100 but I would put Klay Thompson over Kyrie if I had to choose one to make it.
@sogoojo 2 жыл бұрын
We all need someone to speak for us the way unc Shay spoke for Dwight in this video.
@Resist_Oppression 2 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself 😆
@nathanadams5286 2 жыл бұрын
Like he was his dad 😂😂
@jordie8462 2 жыл бұрын
@@Resist_Oppression Dwight doesn't have a television broadcast 😆
@the_onlyy7495 2 жыл бұрын
The way skip casually said “the late great kobe” …..man… it still doesnt feel real
@supremeTeejay 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think about it during Random times “like damn Kobe is really gone”
@sheltondmello8031 2 жыл бұрын
Almost two years coming up. Still tears me up thinking about it
@asilsweater 2 жыл бұрын
If feel the same way🥺
@DadefreshXL 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Same here. It still feels like a bad dream
@Tarakat7 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheltondmello8031 still remember the morning waking up to the news /:
@stevehenderson4312 2 жыл бұрын
Klay, Manu, & Dwight should have made the 75th anniversary team
@danielabraham5901 2 жыл бұрын
Who comes off the list?
@Remy4722 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielabraham5901 a lot of them old players
@judegoodman918 2 жыл бұрын
And tony Parker
@AlexThomas-xb1fh 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie Irving 1.Drafted 1st overall 2.Rookie of the year 3.hit one of the most clutch shots in nba history / nba finals history 4. Nba champion 5. Arguably the best handle in history 6. Arguably best finisher under the basket in history 7. He’s In the 50/40/90 club there are only 10 players in that club 9 in the nba and 1 in the wnba 8. Arguably top 3 most skilled players ever This stuff probably doesn’t count but I’ll say it any way. 2 Olympic gold medals/ an all star game mvp/ a three point contest winner And ps don’t quote me on this but I believe he is the only player ever to record 50 points with over 80% shooting in a game I think he’s top 75 for sure
@bigburhhh 2 жыл бұрын
getting drafted 1st overall doesn’t even make you top 500. Look at Anthony Bennet
@Sebastianismo 2 жыл бұрын
i can put kyrie around 90-100 .. not greater than ... 1. Kevin Garnett 2. Mcadoo 3. Dwight Howard 4. Klay Thompson 5. Manu Bol 6. Tony Parker 7. Ray Alle 8. Jason Kidd 9. Granger ( indiana days) 10. Manu Ginobili .
@justinbrown1118 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie 0 MVPs 0 1st All NBA Teams 0 FMVPs 0 Scoring titles 0 1st team all defense
@QankoIvanov 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sebastianismo cap
@delstarn5405 Жыл бұрын
@@Sebastianismo u just put klay over kyrie wtf
@WilliamsWrestlin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna take this time to appreciate the fact that Dwight Howard is actually an NBA champion. Always wanted him to win one but didn't think he ever was until he joined the Lakers
@Thiiink 2 жыл бұрын
"soft" - bean
@bighuncho5210 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thiiink 😂 bean a 🐐
@mikesolo5747 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight flamed out while he was still in his 20s,,, no he does not belong there.
@MaddNomad1015 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikesolo5747 thank you.
@Rapformyanxiety 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikesolo5747 you trippin
@KleinpeterHank 2 жыл бұрын
2013-2019 when Dwight was “no good” anymore 16pts 12rbs on 59%FG His “bad years” are better than most centers peak.
@jay_1212 2 жыл бұрын
He was still pretty good in 13-14 too. But yea at his worst, he was definitely better than a lot of guy’s prime
@rmelo2382 2 жыл бұрын
people just do not like him it’s as simple as that . in his prime he was as impressive defensively as you’ll ever see but he just doesn’t have the reputation of the others that made the list which is sad . there is no real point in debating whether he should of made it , when he has Terrell Owens syndrome (he also doesn’t get the respect he deserves)
@kmuz08 2 жыл бұрын
16 and 12 makes ur one of the 75 greatest players of all time? those seem like all star numbers but not all time.....
@xxidlk999xx6 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmuz08 Add his resume and tell me he’s just an all-star
@TheNamezZ 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmuz08 not all of the top 75 were even superstars and many had steep fall offs... at least Dwight stayed relevant during is decline.
@SirBudd 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh ain’t no way Kyrie not a top 75 basketball player you know what he would do to nba players in the 70’s 80’s
@Ala23 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie is top 50 . even Iverson said he has the best handles of all time and has a nasty jumper
@jonathansykes4986 2 жыл бұрын
Lay off the drugs.
@zamorant9129 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 he not lying
@zamorant9129 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathansykes4986 kyrie most skilled player this generation ever seen
@jonathansykes4986 2 жыл бұрын
@@zamorant9129 you spelled Lebron James name wrong.
@mongoosemcmongoose2786 2 жыл бұрын
I love how skip argues about dwight losing respect... kyrie literally takes vacations from basketball the dude has 0 commitment
@jasonn2284 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Kyries leadership in Boston 🗑
@jamalsg44ja 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonn2284 and that showed everyone that he is not a leader and I’m a fan of Kyrie but even I can say he’s not a good leader and that’s okay. Dwight should’ve gotten on this list.
@s1l453 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonn2284 And look at boston rn, they're still trash lol quit hating
@js09js09 2 жыл бұрын
@@s1l453 Trash or not, as a leader you can decide that you want to be part of the solution. Non-leaders are okay with being a part of the problem.
@im_ian_rod2568 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonn2284 gordon hayward and brad stevens messed up the celtics.
@peterstark4562 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight should be in there instead of AD. Dwight was the best big man in his peak years. In 2008-2009 season, he was the league leader in rebounds and blocks while averaging 20 ppg. He was the DPOY and an mvp candidate that season. He also led orlando to the finals after beating lebron's cavs.
@basketballhistory6151 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight was mentioned for half a decade as a candidate for "if you had a choice to build a team around any one player, who would it be?". For half a decade, or more. Add in a long post-prime career in which he still added a championship and stats, there's no way he should have been left off. 3 time dpoy, led leagues in rebounds, blocks, led a lackluster team past lebron.. the only explanation i have is he is a victim of playing in a time that big men were being valued less, and Lebron-Kobe-Dirk-Duncan-Wade were all regarded as better overall players during his peak, for the most part, and he got less attention as a game changing superstar.
@asylum1166 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just said something similar!! Straight facts! AD by now should have been the top dog or close to it!! Giannis makes AD look like a baby!!!
@psycho479 2 жыл бұрын
Replace him with Dame
@stifler5062 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Truth though..AD needs that guy...guess he gets in becos he still that rare talent 👏👏😒😒😒😒😑😑😑
@amostlyreasonableguy 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even realize AD was on the list. That’s just dumb.
@laughingbehelit 2 жыл бұрын
Talent-wise, Kyrie is probably top 10 all-time: - True ARTIST with the basketball - Incredibly quick - Unpredictable, keeps changing pace - Good passer, not a turnover machine - Might have the best handles in history - Can turn into an unstoppable scorer - Shot-maker from anywhere, including very tough shots - Clutch - Infinite bag, can finish in every way - Defensively quick hands & feet, high IQ, physical Despite all that, Kyrie is barely top 75. Why? Time has shown he ain't reliable. It's always something : injured, unhappy or simply his mind clearly not on basketball. Doesn't care enough about playing and winning. Barely top 75.
@kennyb50 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know where new tab 75 what do you mean barely. His game is pleasing to the eye but forget all of that Lets pull the flat earther’s stat sheet and take a look at that.
@kennyb50 2 жыл бұрын
He’s nowhere near top 75.
@Cherokee_Ryu 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie is all Hype. Best Handles? Lmao
@williammcarthur6344 2 жыл бұрын
Love when they debate about things they partially agree on
@josh8270 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight stop the “Dream Finals” with Lebron vs Kobe.
@vft5593 2 жыл бұрын
LeBron wouldn't have even got a game against the Lakers that year his team was terrible
@diegobromfield 2 жыл бұрын
@@vft5593 lol
@vft5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegobromfield it's true lol
@JimmyTowz 2 жыл бұрын
@@vft5593 Lol yeah who was his best team mate? Anderson Verijao? Drew Gooden? 🤣
@vft5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyTowz I think it was mo Williams Daniel Gibson delontae west and old ilgauskas and varejao that would've got washed magic were way better it wouldn't have been lebron's fight 😂😂
@jayagainsthumanity 2 жыл бұрын
If Carmelo made it Dwight should definitely be on there.
@ManifestingProsperity718 2 жыл бұрын
Melo had a longer prime - no major awards but outside of Lebron was the best SF for a period.
@leersan1679 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManifestingProsperity718 fam, no major awards alone can justify melo not making it over dwight. he was never the best at anything while dwight was the best defensive big for like 5 years, could score. AND he led his team to an NBA finals lol.
@ManifestingProsperity718 2 жыл бұрын
@@leersan1679 with that argument Derrick Rose should have made the team. Sustained performance matters. If I’m an all star for 15 years and your a all star for 6 with an MVP did you have a better career? You can’t tell me Melo wasn’t the 2nd best SF for a good stretch without hating
@ManifestingProsperity718 2 жыл бұрын
Case in point Chris Paul making it, can’t fault Melo for fighting in the west with dynasties like the lakers and spurs
@leersan1679 2 жыл бұрын
@@ManifestingProsperity718 lets stay focused on dwight and melo bc thats who we’re talking about and its pretty easy to see this. melo has ten all star appearances to dwight’s eight. dwight has 5 all nba first teams to melo 0. 3x DPOY and 4x all defensive first team on top of winning the dunk contest, leading the league in rebounds for 5 years and leading in blocks for 2 years. melo has a scoring title and that’s it. I don’t think anything else has to be said, he shouldn’t have made it over dwight period lol.
@prasan7th 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie the dark wizard of basketball should be in 75 all time. Period.
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
Stop it. He's not even a top 20 guard of all time. He's not even a top 5 guard in his era.
@rhuttner12 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from Orlando, as a kid in middle school all I would see is Dwight Howard, he was easily the most famous athlete in Orlando…
@TheOneKeyToLife 2 жыл бұрын
Dame making it over Dwight is blasphemous
@bkde9389 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@TRU.tv. 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t know basketball
@bob_skeever3634 2 жыл бұрын
DAME?!? is on the list? But not Kyrie. No wonder this is a topic
@WUxDAxRULER 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Howard should be up there but dame too 🤷🏿♂️
@soda8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@bob_skeever3634 Skip hates Dame
@leetraviusmckay2919 2 жыл бұрын
Iggy is still having flashbacks of the 2016 finals 😂😂
@e1kcapo326 2 жыл бұрын
He got his “ get back” with 2 more rings right after😭😂.
@Onlyrealmusic4life 2 жыл бұрын
Best block of all time
@mekverseedits 2 жыл бұрын
GOTDAMN FR 😂😂
@SurtaPhyde 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😅😂😂🤣😂
@GeneralBlaze95 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.bunchungus2976 do you think iggy feels a way about how they did it looooool
@finalhourministries297 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Shannon 🔥🔥🔥
@MrGuapz 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie has led teams to 12th place in the east, while dwight led them to a finals as the only superstar, something 10 of these other players couldnt.
@johnspidell2853 2 жыл бұрын
What year was it 09 when he beat lebron and played Kobe in the finals
@MrGuapz 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnspidell2853 yeah he spoiled the lebron kobe dream finals
@AgentWK 2 жыл бұрын
How did dwight lead the team when the magic were known for there 3 point threat. You act like the magic only had howard, they had Turkoglu, R. Lewis, Marion, Redick, they had premier players to back howard up. If it wasnt for them and their shotmaking abilities, howard wouldnt be as relevant
@MrGuapz 2 жыл бұрын
@@AgentWK Did u watch any of the games? He was the reason they were open. He was the focus he was such a big threat on the pick and roll and he would get doubled on his post ups as well. He was also the most dominant force on defense during his prime and every team has role players, super stars just have the ability to make them "premier" (nash gortat, LBJ mozgov, paul ayton, etc.) something kyrie couldnt do. Dwight made his roleplayer better and literally carried them on defense, thats why he was 3x DPOY.
@AgentWK 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGuapz What im saying is Dwight didnt do it alone in the Magic like other superstars like Lebron in Cleveland who has proven to singlehandedly carry a team. Dwight had like I said, Turkoglu, Lewis, Marion, Redick, etc. If it wasnt for those contributing pieces, he wouldn't have made it as far as he did and vice-verca. Also Kyrie simply havent found the perfect fit in a team yet. His best bet was in Cleveland with Lebron. Nobody wins a championship alone unless your as talented as Lebron or Jordan so people cant be saying Dwight carried that Magic team. He was the best player in the team, but by no means did he lead(carry) the team. He needed those 3 point shotmakers as much as those shotmakers needed him
@Zaied12 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight was left off and he's had a way better career than Kyrie.
@govincisutanes7962 2 жыл бұрын
Has*
@worldtree2027 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true, way higher high end and way lower low end. But I’d still add him over most players left off.
@DJohnN 2 жыл бұрын
@@govincisutanes7962 lol “he’s had” simply means up and until this point. Your little correction makes no sense.
@feliciawilliams5973 2 жыл бұрын
Far better career than Kyrie & Dame
@Mr813Fla 2 жыл бұрын
A better career than Dame too, and I really like Dame.
@dgodm7541 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the list should be all time top 15 at each position which would make 75 players. Which makes it a lot easier.
@jameswamba4338 2 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying and I like the logic behind it. but it can become a bit confusing because some players play more than one position, the positions themselves evolve over time and things like that...
@CulEdz 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn’t make sense. The 16th best PG could be a greater player than the 14th best C.
@Israfeel_rafa 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswamba4338yeah...agreed!
@ME-vy1sf 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswamba4338 not just that. The SG position is by far worse than the rest. The 15th best SG would not belong in that group
@jonboirodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't work this is the best of the best like p4p in boxing not division rankings
@ngunguyen4586 2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Shannon.. wow
@TYLOTYLOTYLO 2 жыл бұрын
You have Westbrook, Dame Lillard and AD on this list. What an awful 75 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kjo2130 2 жыл бұрын
I’m with Shannon, hands down the biggest snub & imo the only snub was Dwight Howard. Dwight was a top 3-5 player for 5 years, it’s just facts. Beat lebron & went to the finals. Beast in Orlando.
@roycedot 2 жыл бұрын
You need more than 5 good years to be considered one of the best of an era
@qu6742 2 жыл бұрын
@@roycedot he was top 5 for 5 years. he was top 10 for several years.
@BlkStar99 2 жыл бұрын
@@roycedot Dame made the list while having less accomplishments than Dwight though. Nobody's ever considered Dame to be the best at his position. Dwight got snubbed.
@finallife87 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlkStar99 dame's also never made it to the finals.
@whodat787 2 жыл бұрын
@@roycedot to be considered the best of an era? Sure. But to be considered one of the best basketball players of all time? I don't think the amount of years you were great should be a deciding factor for that
@MT-eo5vy 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon absolutely killed it. Spoke facts the whole video 💯
@notcoolkev3770 2 жыл бұрын
What facts.. he gave some stupid opinions.
@jnorth5689 2 жыл бұрын
Spoke like a idiot. Kyrie won labitch a ring
@rockmorales 2 жыл бұрын
@@jnorth5689 No he didn't. He had it right. Kyrie won LeBron a ring. But Shannon was not wrong here.
@tickingtimebomb126 2 жыл бұрын
Not facts at all
@BasketballJones48021 2 жыл бұрын
Spoke facts about Dwight making the list, no doubt he should’ve been there… but let’s not go around saying peak Dwight was better than peak Pat Ewing!
@Darius_Icewood 2 жыл бұрын
Skip on Dwight Howard thinking he's a Metalark Lemon took me OUT 7:32 😂😂⚰️⚰️ I'm sorry 🤣
@mixedbeatz16 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if anyone else sees it but the amount of love Skip has for Shannon. Everytime Shannon goes off...idk looks like he loves it.
@Ultra-BLV 2 жыл бұрын
Even though Dwight Howard did end up falling off in the mid 2010s, he was still a productive player until 2018.
@SawamiJude 2 жыл бұрын
He’s still very effective
@CulEdz 2 жыл бұрын
He’s one of the reasons Lakers won last year! He’s still productive
@blanktrigger8863 2 жыл бұрын
And that was because of trying to play through a bad injury. Wish he would have sat out instead of trying to fit into the fickle Lakers culture. Their fans never appreciated it.
@thomassankara1391 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie? What a Joke. The real snub was Dwight. Some How AD with a worse resume was put on the team instead of Dwight. Ridiculous
@govincisutanes7962 2 жыл бұрын
And klay
@managed9348 2 жыл бұрын
They got Dame on this list bruh
@TheM.W 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I can't believe people actually think AD shouldn't be in. This is a guy that has had multiple mvp level seasons, was arguably the mvp in 1 or 2 of them, he is also one of the best defenders of all time and can defend 1-5, was the mvp of the playoffs in 2019/20 (not the finals), has been an All-star throughout his career and has a ring now too. AD should make a top 50 team without a doubt. He is a unicorn and one of the most special players ever
@dylanrich69 2 жыл бұрын
@@govincisutanes7962 Klay is not a top 75 player of all time. I don't know why people think this. If you replace Klay with AD New Orleans never makes the playoffs with Klay instead of AD. Klay is the perfect number 2 but AD is a way better number 1 option.
@TheM.W 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: AD has averaged 20+ points in every single season except his rookie year, 24+ in every single one of those except his second season and last season, 27+ ppg in every single playoff seasons except last season where he was haunted by injuries, has 8 all-star appearances in 9 season and this year will be his 10th, has two all NBA defensive (robbery and should have been way more) and has four all nba appearances. You know nothing about basketball if you don't think AD belongs with the best ever. He will retire with one of the best ever resumes.
@reelpat215beats 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I can no longer take anything Shannon say serious anymore
@f.x.s.7180 2 жыл бұрын
How about now??? Only 2 other players reached 40 points at the half ever…But At 6’2” my guy…
@Jdot2tact 2 жыл бұрын
Dropped 60 on they head. 0 flaws offensively whatsoever
@ballmusic1998 2 жыл бұрын
I agree Shannon, Dwight is more deserving than even AD
@plefevre 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Dwight Howard has a far better career than AD.
@aaronhodge4136 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Cruzer3x 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember in 2010 when ESPN held a poll about who would you start a team around Bron or Dwight? And they were neck and neck. I’m really shocked Dwight didn’t make it
@kevinfreeman29 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing they didn't go build a team around and all-star caliber player...Dwight in my book was a good defender....and that's it
@andreingramakadjscrewrip7372 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfreeman29 He was THE definition of defense back in the day. Like someone else said in these comments, literally the only person who didn't appreciate Howard's dominance was Shaq
@tylergathers7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinfreeman29 Good thing nobody read that book …
@akhi5749 2 жыл бұрын
It was around that time when Phil Jackson said the 1 player he’d select to begin a franchise with was Dwight
@cdp2655 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who voted for Dwight was sadly mistaken
@drewshepherd7601 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie average 28 ppg in the finals, most guys on that list didn't do that
@kofi6239 2 жыл бұрын
Nah bruh he's had no success without lebron james, who's a top 2 player of all time
@dxddygoshetasxnta2989 Жыл бұрын
@@kofi6239 bru he has had success are u dumb
@vishbegaming 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie’s clutch shot over Steph back in Game 7 of the 2016 NBA Finals was the most clutch shot ever
@changenow9228 2 жыл бұрын
bruh, I hope you didn't forget ray allen's clutch 3-pointer against the spurs
@mrblend 2 жыл бұрын
eemmm nah
@larrywashington946 2 жыл бұрын
YES I AGREE THAT SHOT IS MEMORABLE KYRIE WON THAT FINALS "NO KYRIE NO CHIP" +SHANNON NEEDS TO GET OFF HIS VOLUPTUOUS MAN CRUSH IF IT AIN'T LEBRON IT'S DWIGHT WHO DOESN'T BELONG ON THE LIST"DWIGHT BETTER 5HAM REGGIE MILLER" WHAT SHANNON REALLY MEANT WAS BETTER BODY IN HIS EYES "F.O.H"
@cdgates1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Kawhi's shot against Philadelphia in 2019
@ash1234073 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrywashington946 what has Cryie Irving done since then=0!!!😂😂😂
@RKO859 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight on that stretch of 5 years, was neck and neck with lebron in terms of status and popularity. They were both in the McDonald's commercial. He was the best center in the league and top 5 player. Should be easily in this 75th team.
@courtsidewithjerome88 2 жыл бұрын
Man he would give you 20 and 15 that’s insane in the 2000 with 2blks
@quentin6233 2 жыл бұрын
Bro he was great. I'll give you that but by no means was he neck and neck with Lebron in popularity. He was complaining about Lebron commercials being played too much during his finals run because his team out Lebron out. Does that even remotely seem like he is as popular.
@codyrhoudes379 2 жыл бұрын
CAP
@jeremyfrey4634 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@atifking8731 2 жыл бұрын
@@quentin6233 Nah Dwight was really up there. That back injury, changed him forever though. He'll even Melo was considered better then Lebron at one point and he was!
@jermainewinston9959 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight being left on this list is the same as T.O. being left off first ballet hall of fame exactly why media should not be voters because they don't know sports
@dcgrace320 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong…. TO snub is far worse
@roycedot 2 жыл бұрын
The voters were a a mix of media, current and former players, coaches and team executives
@GO-wb1gf 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcgrace320 by far worse but Same exact situation
@tntsection1201 2 жыл бұрын
If wasn’t just Media or it wasn’t the media at all. One of them
@PardonMyGenius 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight had a better peak than Patrick Ewing because he was literally the only dominant big man in his era.
@kcrossover4267 2 жыл бұрын
Not his fault. And tim Duncan, dirk nowitzki, and kg weren't scrubs either. Thay all made the list too and played against Dwight.
@PardonMyGenius 2 жыл бұрын
@@kcrossover4267 I hear you but all Power Forwards, Dwight is a Center and didn’t really matchup with them and even then they are all better than Dwight if we are comparing him to them
@kcrossover4267 2 жыл бұрын
@@PardonMyGenius they were still dominant "big men". Dwight had plenty of competition. And you don't win three dpoy on accident.
@Dbo_Sports 2 жыл бұрын
@@kcrossover4267 When Ewing was playing. Every night he was playing against a better center than Dwight has ever played against…. Whether it was Shaq or Hakeem or David Robinson or Alonzo or Dikembe or Brad Daughterty or Rik Smits. Or an older Kareem or a young Ralph Sampson or Kevin Duckworth or a Bill Lambeer or an older Robert Parrish. Do you get what I’m saying? Dwight was never Patrick Ewing. He never had the offensive game that Patrick had. And Ewing’s first 7 years in the league, he was also a defensive force. But he was playing against two of the top three defensive centers to ever play (Mutombo, Olajuwon). Dwight would not have 3 defensive player of the year awards in a row, if he were playing in the late 80’s through the 90’s
@Gordoh20 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight had 5 great years from 2007-2011 where he averaged 20 points and 13 rebounds he went down hill after that, but if u gonna put Reggie Miller on there so I guess Howard should make it as well. Just saying
@shadbaskins5471 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon said you might as well put “SKIP TO MY LOU” in there 😂😂😂 I’m dead
@viewmaster617 2 жыл бұрын
That and Skip Stopppppp took me out 🤣🤣🤣
@DavidGarcia-on9gn 2 жыл бұрын
Jamal Crawford probably and Skip to my Lou have the greatest all time handles
@devonceleon 2 жыл бұрын
AD shouldn’t be on there over Dwight
@datsapaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight shoulda been on the list but give me AD as a player over Dwight. They both shoulda made it.
@a.ojohnson5036 2 жыл бұрын
AD’s ability is unmatched at his height and position.. he has to be there
@trojandarkhorse2022 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 💯
@jay_1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin I’d rather take Prime Dwight over AD
@dcgrrl321 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. AD is no where near as dominant as Dwight was at his peak.
@TRICKYRIDE 2 жыл бұрын
"Everyone's not gonna be respected and liked" obviously speaking for his nephew LeBron. However respect by your fellow teammates and players matters a ton, especially when they are the ones voting for placement.
@tylergathers7174 2 жыл бұрын
But Lebron is both respected and liked I don’t understand.
@sagatuppercut2960 2 жыл бұрын
"Skip, STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!" 😆
@thetruth3922 2 жыл бұрын
I’m with Shannon 10000000000000% on this bro, they tried Dwight Howard. That men was a beast in his prime coming from a laker fan. We all know they just don’t like him, that list is a joke
@darrenavestruz3573 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the few times that I agree with Shannon. Resume-wise, Dwight has a more compelling argument than Dame, Melo, and AD. He was a franchise player who took nobodies to a Finals, while demolishing the Big 3 Celtics and Lebron-led Cavs along the way.
@avicohen8058 2 жыл бұрын
@Daren Avestruz Took nobodies to the finals? That's a very manipulative statement to make. Like I get it. Do ppl look back and remember Hedo, Jameer nelsin and Rashard Lewis? Probably not. But Hedo and Rashard were huge against Cleveland. Dwight didn't make those clutch plays down the stretch. Rashard Lewis was an all star on Seattle and could really contribute to the team. Hedo won most inproved player the year b4 they made the finals. Snd he showed that year why he deserved that award I just don't think it's fair to say he took a bunch of nobodys to the finals.
@ursula3438 2 жыл бұрын
You know who also has a more compelling argument than Melo? Manu, because he gave Melo a bronze medal in '04.
@rockmorales 2 жыл бұрын
@@ursula3438 Tony Parker has a more compelling case over Manu
@ursula3438 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockmorales I agree, TP should have made the list.
@OffTopicKamah 2 жыл бұрын
I usually agree except lebron
@bolo5190 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Parker is one of the most underrated point guards and players in general to ever play he was mostly a sidekick player to Duncan but there were times he was more than that. When he played he rarely rarely made mistakes for a point guard and he was very efficient overall, everything he did on the court was economical and smart, he always played to his strengths and he was so elite at scoring in the paint and around the rim and he's not a big player overall when comparing to other nba players in general. He didn't put up big numbers like some other point guards or guards in general because he played in a system for most of his career, if that was not the case he could have put up bigger numbers. He was also a deceptive point guard meaning he was very hard to read.
@bolo5190 2 жыл бұрын
Parker is also one of the quickest point guards to ever play.
@justinhumphrey4177 Жыл бұрын
I think if you’re gonna compare Reggie and Dwight the biggest question I can ask is who was feared more. I think overall teams feared Indiana in playoff series, but individually Dwight Howard was feared more in my mind. Dwight Howard was a matchup nightmare in that five or six year stretch. It’s hard for me to put him in front of Reggie though simply bc he was one of the best marksman of all time. He was the definition of a clutch 3 pt shooter. At the end of the day(though I’m sure players get agitated) it’s just a list.
@mribbon89 2 жыл бұрын
As a Magic fan I hate how Dwight left but he was undeniably great in his prime, ESPECIALLY on defense.
@DavidGarcia-on9gn 2 жыл бұрын
He should replace Bill Walton who shouldn’t be in there
@josephlopez4661 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidGarcia-on9gn bill Walton led his team to a championship Dwight led them to the finals but lost you get remembered for winning!
@Zackaveli 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephlopez4661 But theres a ton of guys who aren't champions on that list
@collinclifford3835 2 жыл бұрын
Man was blocking everything in the paint for them like 5-6 years. Won a dunk contest or 2 and dunked on a 12 foot goal. They disrespect this man because of his sexuality lol
@DavidGarcia-on9gn 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephlopez4661 i understand he won but his career highlights are based on 2 and 1/2 years of very high level basketball. Dwight has 7 or maybe even 8 years at a similar level. He got so disrespected
@Mr813Fla 2 жыл бұрын
The Magic were a legit team with Dwight. Dwight is an All Time Defensive Player for sure.
@vft5593 2 жыл бұрын
That year I wanted to play LeBron if Dwight could've put up like 30 points up a game or even like 27 a game they would have won probably they had rashard lewis hedo and nelson I liked that team a lot but I think he got left off cause he was left off cause he didn't have All pros as much and there's players who have hella rings in the 50s and all pros but there was 11 teams in the league so it's not fair
@shinjig 2 жыл бұрын
As others have said, Kyrie is constantly prioritizing other aspects besides basketball. Depending on how this year goes, he might not even play in a single game. Couple that he is getting injured a lot so no, despite his "potential" to be a top 75 player, he doesn't play enough to actually warrant him getting on that list.
@ShaboPrimetime 2 жыл бұрын
Patrick Ewing was surely a better player than Dwight Howard. Ewing carried the Knicks in the 90s and would have won multiple championships if it wasn’t for Air Jordan.
@sheraldhill2728 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Skip is telling Shannon how “players” would react
@yomammasboo713 2 жыл бұрын
Shannon was football not basketball so they are both spectators here.
@sheraldhill2728 2 жыл бұрын
@@yomammasboo713 players are players… must not know too many of those do you?
@stuckinperth 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheraldhill2728 as much as I agree with u… Dynamics are a bit different
@partycrasher9660 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheraldhill2728 yeah nah bro that’s like saying “doctors are still doctors”. I still don’t want a dentist performing heart surgery you feel me?
@partycrasher9660 2 жыл бұрын
@@theallknowingtreestump every sport has a different culture both in game in the locker room but okay. You mean to tell me a professional bowler can relate to what a professional football player goes through? It’s not as simple as “he’s in a sport he knows how it goes” because he’s not in that sport lmao
@chaddon7685 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao... he removes Dame for the same reason he commends Reggie. Knock Dwight for not being respected by his peers, fully dismiss how much Dame is loved and respected by his peers.
@prasan7th 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest Dame did not have that much impact in the game as Reggie 😄
@chaddon7685 2 жыл бұрын
@@prasan7th One conference finals ever? Other than being a Knick killer, he's one of the most overrated players ever.
@prasan7th 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie definitely above them both
@ThugNasty_6969 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Skip in that Dwight never took basketball seriously but Kyrie will literally take vacations in the middle of the season because his feelings got hurt oh and won’t tell anyone that he’s leaving. Not his coach, owner, even own teammates, he just dips. Where they do that at!?
@terrellpowell2097 2 жыл бұрын
Something wrong w skip he contradict his self all the time
@michaeljason007 2 ай бұрын
Look at how he has switched up after this shot against Denver 😂🤣😂 keep that same energy
@keving5178 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they play film and they are the only ones that can see it
@chrisrobinson8339 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Parker should be on there. He one of the greatest ever at laying the ball up. Incredible finisher. Coming from a Lakers fan.
@ThaFlyingDutchMen 2 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt end of the day game recognize game and he definitely got rob
@RABIDM0NKY 2 жыл бұрын
That's so true
@mahirwemoses8007 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re make a case for him, him being a great finisher doesn’t really help it.
@jetgarcia8819 2 жыл бұрын
And Westbrick was there! Muricans are biased as always. 🤷♂️
@iamsedrickb 2 жыл бұрын
@@mahirwemoses8007 exactly he gotta say a little more than that cause kyrie a better finisher
@georgeprchal3924 2 жыл бұрын
Weren't Stephen A and Skip debating top 5 back in '10, pretty sure Skip said he'd take both Melo and Dwight over LeBron.
@Coldskin1 2 жыл бұрын
The one season melo avg 28😆, he really should be on the list either
@melanatedgod5337 2 жыл бұрын
He did.
@jemahoney 2 жыл бұрын
Stop being ridiculous you just proved to me you don’t know a damn thing about basketball this is not really debatable go play checkers
@SheedJB 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Unk you dead wrong about Pat Ewing vs Dwight.
@dre_216 2 жыл бұрын
“Well put skip to my lou on there” 🤣
@Lord_OTD 2 жыл бұрын
“Outside of LeBron James, what is Kyrie Irvin?” Wow, never thought I’d hear this coming from Shannon. Tough crowd.
@dannysweeney8765 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true. Did nothing in Boston and now Brooklyn always some drama
@Baconeggncheese14 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannysweeney8765 facts. Skip just finds a way to hate Dame Dolla too. Ain't no way a majority of NBA players taking Kyrie over Dame
@tones.melodies 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Shannon a little bitter with that one. And I love Shannon lol.
@dannysweeney8765 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baconeggncheese14 agree
@atifking8731 2 жыл бұрын
Nah Kyrie is a great player. If Lebron didn't have Kyrie during that run then they would have won the Chip. It's simple! It's a team sport... I'm a Lebron fan but this thing that he makes players better is all lies. He makes teams better not the players. Kyrie never changed his game when Lebron came in lol. Like he been ballin! They got some new teammates as well.. These narratives are wild, this is why people think Jordan was the best. But I might say Jordan was mountrishmore great. So I don't mind that argument. But these analysis and fans do not watch the games. How can people not put Kyrie next to Curry when he's schooled Curry multiple times and he's more unguardable than Curry lol. And he's shoots the 3 pretty great while contested versus Curry who needs a little more space at times. Like do people watch the games? I'm not biased, these are simple breakdowns. Championships can't be a factor when deciding the best "individual" players. Come on man! I feel like I could be a better analysis than these mofos.
@nikoa2411 2 жыл бұрын
AD and Lillard absolutely should not been added to the list over Vince Carter, Mutombo, and Dwight
@notcoolkev3770 2 жыл бұрын
Tmac too
@TheNamezZ 2 жыл бұрын
Vc was good but not better than Ad as a player... don’t let the flashy dunks blind you.
@tg6092 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, he literally made basketball relevant in Canada. And a prime Carter was arguably one of the best players to see. Dude was amazing.
@deleonfountain8220 2 жыл бұрын
@@notcoolkev3770 tmac was constantly hurt.
@kjo2130 2 жыл бұрын
Ad being there was a joke
@premiumoutlet4407 2 жыл бұрын
The Kobe Bryant curse if there's one person Kobe Bryant hated that was Dwight Howard. It's all politics.They DIDN'T want Vanessa bayant in the same building as Dwight Howard
@UHcougs22 Жыл бұрын
Damn if Skip doesn’t remember that man he must’ve played in the late 40s/early 50s lol
@theearthdwellers8633 2 жыл бұрын
Also skip, Dwight howard has only been a role player for the later part of his career. He was the main offensive and defensive player for those Orlando teams don't do that skip
@jasonhogan9320 2 жыл бұрын
Plus aint melo a role player now? What’s his point
@jasonhogan9320 2 жыл бұрын
@Frank P well when you look at the accolades I get you
@redpillfreedom6692 2 жыл бұрын
Dwight hasn't been the main option since 2012. He was only 27 that year. He exited his prime before 30. He deserved to be left off.
@jasonhogan9320 2 жыл бұрын
@@redpillfreedom6692 he was hurt a lot after that and even then his resume is in fact better than dames
@redpillfreedom6692 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhogan9320 Yeah that's precisely my point. He's spent the bulk of his career not being a superstar.
@kingeffet6349 2 жыл бұрын
Tony parker not making the list is the biggest disrespect
@courtsidewithjerome88 2 жыл бұрын
Tony and Dwight Howard are the biggest snubs
@Ne1lcul 2 жыл бұрын
Manu also. He doesn't have the numbers because he was a 6th man, but who was more clutch? Always showed up in the playoffs
@uesikon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ne1lcul kobe would put manu on that list
@kingeffet6349 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ne1lcul not being a starter shouldnt matter it's about Impact
@Ne1lcul 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingeffet6349 that's what I'm saying. And playoffs and championships should weigh more than regular season numbers
@evenflow5529 2 жыл бұрын
I just love Shannon Sharpe 😂
@lessondburn3971 2 жыл бұрын
i agree w skip. guys like Jason Kidd and Reggie Miller were vital to carrying the popularity of the league between superstars, (i.e After Jordan, Before Kobe)
@vbeard5887 2 жыл бұрын
Grant Hill before he got hurt did that a little more than Reggie, but I see your point
@lessondburn3971 2 жыл бұрын
@@vbeard5887 yea grant hill was supposed to be the dr j 2.0, not play style but the black athlete who was clean-cut and very palatable for the white fans but yea he got hurt.
@tonypreston7278 2 жыл бұрын
Too much recency bias. The old players don’t get enough love. I’m fine with Kyrie being left off.
@worldtree2027 2 жыл бұрын
And what’s the criteria? He has a better resume than some players on the list, superior skillset, and better regular + advanced statistics.
@tonypreston7278 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldtree2027 different eras, not fair to compare somebody now to somebody 20 years ago, the rules were different on defense for example.
@viniciussantos2857 2 жыл бұрын
Today's players are a lot better than the 50's, 60's players for example.
@worldtree2027 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonypreston7278 That’s true but they compared enough to give the advantage to older players, so I think relative to era placement Kyrie could definitely make a solid case.
@ShutThePuck 2 жыл бұрын
You have to judge players by the era's they played in, way too much disrespect to the old timers. I'm glad the NBA kept the old timers on there, otherwise we'd have too much recency bias going on, mfers will put Kyrie over Walt Frazier
@cruisejones6463 2 жыл бұрын
Howard didn’t take basketball serious, but look at his numbers… I wanna kno if he did take it serious…
@dzhvn 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh. That would’ve been legendary.
@kermitsniffed 2 жыл бұрын
both dwight and kyrie should be top 75 imo
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
" Dwight Howard's peak was better than Patrick Ewing's" ?? You need to stop drinking that Hennessy Shannon LOL
@Jambajakumba 2 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked Skip doesn't believe Dwight missing is a big deal. I'm losing respect for this dude now. How could he make an argument for Kyrie over Dwight😒
@tiagosantana6669 2 жыл бұрын
You’re losing respect for him now? It took you this long to realize this man makes no sense?
@creamo2972 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiagosantana6669 skip says alot of delusional crazy stuff especially about Bron but he is definitely respected by his viewers thats cap if you say they dont respect him he started this type of sports media
@thandekilethomas9484 2 жыл бұрын
Skip walks into that studio and says things to shake things up deliberatly , he a real troll but i think he actually believes his delusions
@rayyabdul2822 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiagosantana6669 it seems you're new watching the show...skip the goofiest sport analyst of all time
@hitthisloudgbeforeichangem5749 2 жыл бұрын
@@creamo2972 Lmfaoo you're insane Skip is a joke. Ppl literally skip his part when he starts talking
@estherfamurewa4436 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry y’all but kyrie is not a top 75 player ever. He is top 100 tho. His resume doesn’t put him in top 75 but he is definitely one of the greatest talents the game has ever had 💯
@jaymoney148 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me what is the criteria for this list?
@managed9348 2 жыл бұрын
So Dame could make it but he can’t???
@estherfamurewa4436 2 жыл бұрын
@@managed9348 lmao Dame shouldn’t be on this list either but I’m not talking bout Dame
@BlackBSolz 2 жыл бұрын
@@estherfamurewa4436 ur spittin fax, I love kyries skill seeing him play is a gift but he absolutely isn’t top 75 at this point in his career, maybe more rings and 50/40/90 clubs would get him there
@Suowooo 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll accomplishment wise he isn’t but he’s definitely better than a lot of players on this list. Especially some of the older players
@JustAFan444 2 жыл бұрын
Preach Unc!
@denniswilliams2500 2 жыл бұрын
What about David Thompson aka "The Skywalker"?? He gets forgotten so often but only TRUE basketball fans and the legends know who David Thompson was as a player. He was absolutely unstoppable as a player. He had a complete game...pullups, mid-range, first step, finishing above the rim. He needs to be on this list!!
@babiboy181 2 жыл бұрын
I love that unc is putting respect on Dwight's name. He deserves his flowers. Was definitely dominant. I couldn't tell you who the 2nd best center was in the east side at the that time. Joakim noah...?? Lmao
@nikeettg5613 2 жыл бұрын
Lol yea it was definitely Noah
@ljpal18 2 жыл бұрын
Gasols
@jameswamba4338 2 жыл бұрын
@@ljpal18 he said "2nd best center in the east"...
@ljpal18 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswamba4338 gotcha. Al horford.
@540trey88 2 жыл бұрын
Amare Stoudemire on the Knicks is a debate, he was averaging like 25 and 9. Howard averaged 22 and 14 in 2010
@ZandeKongo 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any issues with this. Kyrie is highly talented, but he doesn't have the resume to warrant a place in that ranking. Guys like Tony Parker and Dikembe Mutombo ain't even on there, they deserve a place more than him.
@coolmeransom 2 жыл бұрын
And Damian Lillard does??????
@coolmeransom 2 жыл бұрын
What had Damian Lillard done that kyrie hasn’t?
@datsapaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolmeransom Carry a team the conference finals as the lead. Kyrie would be having his team want to jump him every year if he was always the lead guy. Kyrie would have 0 success without Lebron and everyone knows that because he is a me against the world type. The Celtics players couldn’t wait for him to be gone and the Nets guys ain’t like him his first year either. That’s why most of them got traded or left.
@coolmeransom 2 жыл бұрын
@@datsapaddlin nah cuz McCollum is the reason they beat the nuggets in the semis. And lillard got swept by curry lmao
@datsapaddlin 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolmeransom Dame has led his team to the playoffs way more than Kyrie. Kyrie had his team in the lottery in the east. They wasn’t even close to the playoffs.
@kendrickjones3115 2 жыл бұрын
Where was they at, In the DUSTY-8 Motel?
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