I thought it was kind of funny ngl

@@Lil_gremlin_ it was, but the delivery was like a punch

brutal man it's kind of my fear if i ever miraculously get a partner that ill start to stop loving her or something which is kind of why i start to get scared when i don't like my crush as much as i used to

me too!! I had a similar one growing up: “your parents sleep in the same room?”

it hits hard

Not "Orel impregnating the entire town's women with a baker's pouch"? Or smth close?

@@blessiemasancay4818 that's certainly a contender.

This is going to get deep

Weird....Why tho?

@@Remorsefullyhumble you're weird

Also deeply fucking misogynistic

this is absolutely transcendental humor the reality is the punchline of the fiction it's trying to warn us

Yup Alone really makes me hate AS because r@pe was totally fine to show when it was played off as a joke in season 1 but when they showed the very real aftermath and affects it has on the victims, it’s too much and gets the show pulled.

It’s genuinely psychotic that from adult swims perspective it’s more ok to joke about rape than it is to seriously talk about it

fuck Mike Lazzo for canceling this show

Dude's never read revelations.

@@huguesdepayens807 God is just. Revelations is the end times.

@@lucaswarehernandez7139 can you explain more?

Damn.

Unfortunately, it is easier to deal with zombies then it is with someone you are supposed to have unconditional love like your parents.

Lol frfr

@@laurakiner3942you say that now

It gets realer and probably why that's more terrifying

He got everything he asked for 😂 minus the sin He wanted a women, so he could have a family. He wanted the fun time inbetween, but fate gave him what he needed

Florence wanted to be with him but he rejected her :(

@@iluvpink1176 Florence was also cheating on her husband, trust me the show would have elaborated more on the story. No one in Morelton is clean or pure. And he was just desperate for affection, and she offered it. Clay even shames him later for it XD "Must be some desperate sap, who feeds of the desperation of the women"

:’) it’s really sweet

It’s one of my favourite Orel scenes. That, all the best things start with F, Family, Friends, Faith and of course Fucking and sometimes we’re greedy and we want all the F things, when we aren’t happy with the F things we already have. Reverend could finslly have 3 of those things now. Family and Friends, his daughter and Faith.

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, sandy cheeks from spongebob is orel!?!?!? mind blown

ow

That hurt my heart I never knew Orel was SANDY CHEEKS

@@LoRosa0224turn the other (sandy) cheek(s)

Cindy from Jimmy Neutron too

Hard agree. As much as I wanted it to continue, I like the ending

this seems more likely to me than being so madly in love that they neglect doughy. Plus it might be reflective of their inner immaturity. They have an immature view of sex and marriage which emotionally/mentally stunted them and even as parents theyre not able to fully mature and grow past high school maturity. And doughy pays the ultimate price. No one in moralton cares about any of it because theyre not having sex outside of marriage and thats all that really matters to anyone. I doubt anyone in moraton, as miserable as they all are, even envy their relationship because its so obvious that neither are playing with a full deck and aren't truly living up to the ideal nuclear family.

yesssssss I THINK THIS TOO@@elleofhearts8471

@@elleofhearts8471 pretty sure that was pretty plainly stayed. Hell, his last name was Latchkey

"Stinkin' dead end job..."

Took me a while to connect the dots, you'd think it was quite obvious but I'm also quite dumb

How much $ does clay make then, since he always seems to lack or just a cheapskate.

@@berniekatzroy Have you seen his study? He wastes every cent he can spend in booze and weapons

@@alucardsantradideus267 oh

I like to think shapy and vlocky got a happy ending too.

​@@snowqueen51 Pretty sure they did^ In the photos, you see that Shapey is now a police man and Block is a firefighter. Both of those positions involve helping people and they seem to be happy

@@willieboi. police man….helping people….lmao

​@@bubbles4897Jesus christ atleast try to be a little optimistic, not everything has to be the worst that it can be

@@bubbles4897poor little guy. Life is shit when you act like that. I would know

It was supposed to cont. Had it not cancelled i do believe it was stated the parents would've ended up seperated with different people

Jesus dude, are you okay?

Dunno how you can see any of this show and blame individuals rather then the culture of rejecting yourself for 'religion'

​@@whwhywhywhywhywhywhyThey are not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge the unfair background someone came from, and still hold them accountable for their own actions. Clay is an adult.

@@bananasinfrench I agree with robert sapolsky when it comes to crime, punishment and free will. also Clay is a clay figure, not an adult. The writers clearly wanted us to feel empathy for all the awful lives of their characters.

Also I love Mrs. Secondopinionson’s voice. I’m a trans man and I have a higher voice than I want. When I’m trying to make a good impression I deepen my voice via lowering my larynx, for the same reason she pinches her nose. Not all trans women have a high voice, estrogen actually has little to no effect on your vocal cords, so her voice would make sense in the context of an overstressed trans woman who doesn’t have the time or energy to voice train.

and when she finally finds and connects with her actual, living, breathing, biological child, she starts to heal and it makes me cry every time

That’s one of my favorite episodes in the series. It’s really cool to see her break through moment when she connects with Joe

@@rowan-priince1860 You're right that estrogen has little effect on the vocal cords, however testosterone does. Transwomen who have gone through a male puberty can compensate by using a falsetto register like countertenors do, but transmen may have more difficulty, lacking the scaffolding to produce the lower tone, unless hormone therapy can replicate a male puberty if taken soon enough.

Its a delusion all the same

I made some mistakes, but this is something I didn't actually forget. I probably should have said something myself, but instead I tried adding that clip in for full effect. For whatever reason, though, Content ID kept copyright claiming that part.

Honestly i feel like Morel still blindly loves his family He just isent blind to their actions, hes waking up and isent a Blissful child. But he still loves them, hes the kid of person who would learn to hate themself before others

This one stayed with me the most.

Coach stop frame was probably one of the best characters in the show at least for that moment alone. He was able to give the young boy an understanding that honor isn't something that you're given or earned it's something that you need to find for yourself

The closure of Orel and Coach was so heartwarming. Not only did Coach finally cut off a toxic person, but Orel finally had a decent male figure in his life.

That's probably because (if you've watched this entire show) Clay's father used to hit him and Clay used to take that as a form of affection.

You're right oh my

Yeah, my father was also a horrible narcissistic alcoholic who beat me, so yeah, it's pretty relatable, sadly

@@hairlessgrizzly559I hope you’re having a good life and doing well

He broke the cycle of abuse by recognizing it very young and, likely, doing something about it. I imagine future seasons would have involved him escaping his family.

me too, cried so hard at that part

same

@@names_are_useless If you look on the walls of Oral’s house, you’ll notice he still has framed pictures of his family members, despite how much they’ve wronged him. Oral never “escaped”, because he still loves them. He just was able to see the flaws in their ways and never fell into temptation as they did, so he created the perfect Christian family he deserves with Christine

@@aaronlandry3934 The creator mentioned Orel was going to go through a Goth phase in Season 4 I believe, and distance himself from his family. It's clear Orel ended up with no ill-will towards Shapey or his Doppleganger. I noticed no pictures of his Father nor Mother.

My favorite part was when he said “ITS MORAL TIME!” And started orelling the bad guys

@@yuriscynicism omg so true bestie

That scene was incredible and tragic at the same time because after oral says to his dad "I hate you"he lost all respect for him which is understandable considering clay shot his own son which could have killed him

@@animezilla4486 Right but it also is a huge thing because as a devout Christian Morel always held the belief of honoring and respecting his father and seeing his father as a pathetic vindictive destructive drunk and tries to twist his deplorable actions as possible to Orel.

Hate away sister, hate away

He's horrible but there are reasons as to why he is horrible, namely his dad and Bloberta specifically which did a pretty good job making me feel somewhat sympathetic towards him

​@@bigmannn2443Bloberta is responsible for her shitty life but she isn't, in my opinion, at fault for what happened to Clay. He was already broken because of what happened to his mom and his dad being abusive towards him. Her offering alcohol to him was just a trigger, he would try it eventually and probably become a horrible person eather way.

Don't forget, also blaming your son for your shooting him in the leg.

Clay is simultaneously a terrible person, but a brilliantly-written character

Honestly your right He was a misguided man, but started to wake up as the stiry went on

the only downside is the fact that he's racist

Totally agree

his character development reminds me of the ice king from adventure time like its literally the same thing

​@@mistyglasses0.063 No.

True. Maybe ptsd and he skewed his views a bit. But by the end he "grew up". So everything is crystal clear and aside from reprecussions we see its because his dad was mayor. And he pretty much has his family get away with anything

That’s funny because I used to watch this show when I was a young kid and stayed up too late. I actually forgot about it until now

Wouldn't it be 6000

@@SentientIrisu nah we saw 6000 during the show

@@waldornprime5567 you are correct

@@SentientIrisu note the "unseen"

Wait what if there was more than 6001 Idk maybe clay got more techniques than geopliticians fighting over disputes

Yup

As a cis gay male I most likely cannot relate to your struggle at all, but I always found it insulting to trans people when others will disparage deep voiced trans characters. I can't imagine how painful it must be to be a trans women with a deep voice, and every time you get a smidge of representation in anything, everyone is calling it "insensitive" and "hurtful" to potray trans people like that. That your deep voice is nothing more than an offensive joke, and that your existence as a trans person is invalid because you're not feminine enough. Maybe I'm completely off base here, but that's how I see it from the perspective on an outsider looking in.

I'm trans and honestly I was more bothered by the reaction of the video essay then the joke itself. It's real. It's a struggle. Everyone in the show is facing real problems and issues, sometimes comedic and sometimes very much not. Stuff like that shouldn't be off limits imo, and seeing a trans girl be 'right' in every way except their voice feels more humanizing and empathetic then making a trans character with no struggles to pass or appear feminine.

Fr, I loved her voice it was just so iconic for me and memorable.

Honestly as a trans femme, kinda envious of it

As a woman, you're not a real woman

I had a teacher at Catholic School tell this to a girl who’s dog had just died.

​@@leannechambers4064I am so sorry for what happened to you! As a christian I believe animals go to heaven to. There is a psalm that says God preserves everything (or something like that) which would include animals.

I understand you had a bad experience, but you shouldnt just abandon church. It helps us grow and stay sharp in the Lord! I personally think that animals go to heaven to, as a psalm says something along the lines of: God preserves everything. That would mean animals to right? I dont know.. but we will all find out someday. God bless you sir or ma'am. Jesus loves you and your sister very much!

@@mariagil2170 I’m personally much happier now that I’ve permanently left the church.

@@mariagil2170 the reasons I don't go to church extend far beyond that one little incident, the main one being I disagree with what it teaches.

God that is daunting

Sounds like heaven to me

Well originally before the show got cancelled bloberta was supposed to end up with officer papermouth

I don't think Shapey and Block are going anywhere :(

@@drf6377 Not true. If you look at the pictures in the frames in the final shot. Shapey became a cop and Block a firefighter. I like to think that Orel stepped up to raise them in place of Clay and Bloberta. It's only head canon, however, I base it on Orel being the only one to ever show concerned with their well being through out the series. Also them moving onto jobs that help others seems very Orelesk in my opinion, suggesting his influence in their upbringing.

Wtf

@@highdefinition450 and he’s so old, it’s actually terrifying

@@Vinestaffsupport mhm.

It also makes the way she just dissociates when the men in town have sex with her so much more uncomfortable.

I went to check the wiki to see how old nurse bendy is and she is 24, Joe is 12. She gave birth when she was 12. I feel sick.

you can't change your DNA. XX and XY are immutable, sex chromosomes can never, and will never, be changeable

She isn’t trans

It being pulled after Alone makes that saying hit even harder

The dog called himself Jesus. It couldn't be more on the nose

The town isn’t Jewish and they aren’t making the government kill the dog so I didn’t get the message

@@magicman3163 You do know that Jesus... was a jew, right? He didn't create Christianity. He was Jewish, he celebrated passover, his mother and father were Jewish.

@@grandempressvicky6387 he was like Martin Luther his group branched out from the original branch and modern Jews are different since they have new books like the Talmund that advocate that they are the master race and Goyim must be killed or raped

​@@grandempressvicky6387 Don't use logic. It'll confuse and anger them.

Right? My wife and I quote this to each other all the time. In fact I made some shirts celelbrating them. meromorphic.store

I knowwww 😭 and the fact Orel saw nothing wrong with them and just accepted them before Joe started being a dick

It was annoying as hell

@@mdtisthebest6249 ok

@@mdtisthebest6249 no bitches ? 🥺

By replacing one religion with another?

@@huguesdepayens807Although Buddhism is qualified as a religion, it’s really more of a lifestyle than anything. It’s the idea that the world is already perfect and that one must accept themselves as they are in order to find inner peace, something no one in Moralton has been able to achieve. Orel was attaching too much of his self-worth and spirituality to a physical building (the church), when in reality he doesn’t need to. Buddha wasn’t trying to convert Orel, just telling him that his relationship with God is whatever he wants it to be, and it’s not dependent on outside physical forces.

Yup. It's very close to the state I grew up in as well. I can concur.

@@Meromorphic I moved out of the"small town" I grew up in and now living in a metropolis city. I can promise you the way I start describing my town is " this racist town I grew up in" and then when I explained the situation, everyone agrees that it's racist as hell disguised as " Christian values"

​@@jordanford9320I am a convert to Roman Catholic, and I find it disgusting what the hell some areas, particularly the south of America (I'm British) has warped the word of a loving lord. God wouldn't want you to be inherently hateful towards anything. He'd be angry at you for being needlessly horrible to someone who hurt you in the past. It's almost ironic.

@@jordanford9320 I dont think its fair to compare your ENTIRE small town to being racist, thats not fair, just like if i called your metropolis city a "overpopulated poop covered zoo that has too much crime"

i think it's because i didn't grow up in America, i live in the Philippines but I've never met christians irl except two of my teachers whose worst trait was just thinking being gay was a sin like this so it always confuses me when i see stuff and comments like this but it's disgusting when i think about people using God's word and lying about it for their own use. it's ironic because we're taught to have the utmost respect for Him and you have pos like the people mentioned doing the complete opposite of what they pretend they follow. ngl it really hurts to watch this video and read the comment section but it's not like i completely don't understand

true

Lmaooo

I always loved that

Also "reverend wins eating contest" The sin of Gluttony 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

lots of that in Home Movies too.

@@platonicbuu7454 Eh, Home Movies isn't as effed up.

It's a perfect one-two punch of Orel learning about both his coach's relationship with his dad and a confirmation of how broken the relationship between his parents are.

No because I was completely zoned into how heart breaking the video had gotten and how dark it was and that threw me so off guard 😂

I like to think that it kind of represents the way that rape isn’t always talked about or shown by victims. Most victims of rape remain silent about it and do their best to proceed with a “normal” life and a lot of people never even find out. You can’t look at a person and be like “yup, they’ve been through something” so I think that’s sort of what happens with nurse bendy which is the complete opposite of the school teacher whom’s abuse was publicized and thoroughly talked about.

did it kill you.. or did you get killed by it

And that added element of Orel trapping Clay into taking credit for killing the bear, and therefore admitting he also shot Orel.

Brilliant use of passive vs active voice

not to sound rude, but how is it subtle? its not layered dialogue, clay literally says "orel, what have you done?" to which he responds "i got shot by you dad". like, yeah, he does shift the blame into himself, but thats after clay sets orel up to take the blame in the first place. especially since we have already been shown clays pov on blame and authority figures on the episode where principal fakey cheats on his wife with nurse bendy

i mean subtle as in it wasnt something i noticed on my first watch, maybe some people did. imo changing the way a character structures their sentences to show how they're developing is a subtle detail especially in comparison to everything else that happens in nature

Honestly I actually believe that- his hair line makes it look like horns as well

I thought this too, and now I'm shocked that was not the case. 😭

Glad I wasn't the only one

turns out he was just a politician after all

other stuff that i feel go with this headcannon/interpretation: -Hes often lit in with red light or actual fire -his den/room/pit of hell is a dark place with open access to sinful things (weapons, alcohol, expensive or indulgent items like the velvet robe as you guys mentioned, forbidden knowledge if you consider the bookshelves or the """truths""" Clay teaches him, etc.) he constantly lives in a hell of his own making a job and lifestyle that he deeply resents, people that remind him of all the decisions he regrets made to forever think about and look at reminders of what he despises -dissapointed and was disowned/ distanced from an important paternal figure (ok thats prob reaching as far as the satan parallel but you get what i mean) -temps the pure offspring with sin and actions they both feel are wrong (tempts him with killing and using violence, instills a shitton of values that would make Orel just like him, etc.) and acts as a test of their faith and purity

Damn I was thinking this was like butters version of the story. Like orels parents look so similar to Butters

Source on that?

​@@odnill like what season and what episode

Yeah... I noticed the similarities

@@hipsterelephant2660in the south park episode “butters’ very own episode”, it has butters go into his dads study and learn a lesson about lying. its very moral orel aesc because butters’ dad looks almost identical to clay, and the study is similar as well. a lot of people speculate that moral orel is based off of it because the episode aired in 2001, and moral orel came out in 2005.

I bet it was probably the exact same as what oral went through only with a few slight changes she never went on a hunting trip and what happened with her brother moving in with the puffington family apparently was a good thing because it meant that she still had a way to contact orel despite them being apart so they could reconnect once they had ditched the perspective horrible families. Not to mention let's not forget the end we see block and shape he became a fire chief and a police chief respectively for a couple of kids who had serious neurodivergent problems that is honestly heartwarming for all of the crappiness that their families had Christina orrell block and shapy all actually got a better life than what their parents had originally set them up for

I have a theory that Christina's life was, for the most part, Orel's life but instead, her abuse and revelations came from her mother and not her father. Perhaps her father was too overwhelmed with work and, growing up in a Christian household turned Jewish (Don't ask lol), I know from experience that it's always the mothers that are expected to tend to the daughters because daughters are "emotional", "unreasonable" and "overreactive". Therefore, I imagine Christina would be either brushed off or chastised when she'd have an opinion or call the town/her parents out. Maybe she got into mischief like Orel did at some point too and would get cleaning as a punishment, rather than spankings. Also, maybe, there was a parallel to the camping trip like a "Girl's night" or something under that umbrella of gender stereotypes where Christina had a similar experience with her mom. This is all speculation though, but I have thought about it quite a lot.

Moral oral? Nah. Christian christina

I'm glad you brought that up ☝ because I noticed when Bloberta went to switch the boys, both wanted to stay with her. It implies that Christina's mom was probably a worse mother to Blocky(?) than Bloberta was to Shapey.

@@alexandriahunt6058 that's something I never really thought of before but yeah clearly their family must have been horrible enough for both kids to decide that they want to stay with the puffingtons. That means that that mother must have been even less caring than bloberta

i resonate with *so* many of the women on the show, but especially Bendy..

@@colorblockpoprocks6973 Im so sorry about what happened to you, I really hope that you do better and get the justice you deserve

Glad that she got a good ending on the show

@@redjoker365 her and joe :)

IM SORRY (Slams hands on Table) FUCKING 12?!?!

"slang?" "Yes"

What makes it funnier is that ‘Slang’ is literally slang for ‘short language’. Does that mean Clay’s done crack?

Yeah, sympathetic villain stuff with him. You really hate everything you’ve seen them do but knowing all the stuff he went through and how truly sad that moment is. Knowing his whole story never justifies his so shitty actions but damn does it make moments like that hit so hard. So much feels there.

That's how toxic people do it. They can be huge monsters but they have the ability to tap into your sympathy. Plus I think he might have actually had real feeling for Coach so there is some genuine love in his speech.

I don't buy it. I never bought it.

It's amazing how they managed to portray someone so broken, with everything out in the air explaining how he got there, and yet maintained how he's irredeemable. Just like some people in real life, he's too far gone, beyond saving. And I don't think a show before or since has ever portrayed such a dark reality with such nuance.

I could feel bad for him At the same time,all I could think was,wow... This man is truly pathetic,isn't he

Yeah absolutely, I'm happy others can feel that..

I think this is really what elevates this series. It can be easy to dismiss it as "Christianity Bad" as was a popular view of the era, but a close analysis pokes holes in that assessment. Orel's faith - the genuine faith and connection he has with religion, even as the institutions around that are warped by people's biases - is a consistently good thing in his life. It's the people around him that interpret things however suits them and to entrench their own biases that is portrayed as really harmful. And we see genuine growth from him, much of which emerged from his devout belief, be stifled over and over by people who would bend that positive thing to their own values. The biggest example is when he gets an epiphany about the nature of the divine, and then his father beats it out of him until what is left is the church. But equally, how this religious town kills a dog that is the reincarnation of jesus for being too loving, and the like. It would be very, very easy for a show like this to be "Christianity is a terrible institution and god sucks." But it doesn't go for that low-hanging fruit, and takes a more nuanced take about religion instead.

I really noticed that from clips i watched on KZfaq of this show. I was born and raised a Catholic and although I wasn't raised not to question anything, I do come from a broken family and appreciate Orel so much. I didn't realize how similar i was as a kid until the end of the show. I love the message the show gives and will always recommend it to all my friends. Religious or not.

Faith IS the problem. Telling millions of people all over the world that something that is blatantly false and made up is true is cruel and inhumane.

@@areguapiri there comes a time where people grow to a certain age and question a lot of things they're told. Unless someone belongs to a family like Orel's (i hope it's really scarce nowadays) then they can leave whenever they want. My own brother is an atheist and still lives at home with the rest of us. We don't force him to do anything he doesn't want to and we have good relationships with him still. Trust me when I say that Christians and anyone who belongs to literally any other religion aren't mindless drones just following whatever their church leaders say. We have questioned, we have seen both sides of the argument, and we have decided. Our religion isn't abusing us and we're not being treated inhumanely by it. If you hate religion, then that's cool for you, but you don't have to say it's cruel and inhumane just because you don't believe.

Me too, Rachael Ross. Me too. 😊

Where did you see this

@@xijinping3317 at the very end of the last episode, you can see them as their jobs in picture frames, shapey as a police officer and block as a fireman

I thought I was the only one that notice!!

thats very nice and heartwarming tho

The show did a pretty good job of portraying both Bloberta and Clay as both villain and victim. Bloberta was failing at her societal duty and therefore became manipulative and Machiavellian and a pretty damn neglectful mother, Clay is in an unhappy marriage but chooses to drink and abuse his child and is a deeply violent and abusive person, and eventually almost kills his own son, they’re both completely garbage people who know they’re garbage but don’t actually want to change

The toxic dynamic they share is also the product of a larger vicious cycle. Bloberta wouldn't have sabotaged clay if the local culture didnt place women's value and purpose into being a wife and mother and treat women who were one or neither as less than. Bloberta was more or less using a toxic version of self preservation to prevent herself from becoming a victim of unjust social isolation. The culture of moralton is eat or be eaten. The only way to live up to expectations and attain social approval is to be selfish and to prey on someone else for your survival /purposes, no matter how understandable or unnecessary they may be. Selfless people gain nothing but mockery and isolation. Thats what archaic social expectations push people to become and treat others like. In that sense religion is less relevant on the whole and is used more like a backdrop than as the forefront to every interaction. Though, archaic traditions can only live on if people keep them alive. If the people of moralton thought of people as more important than traditions, then the culture wouldn't have produced individuals who are willing to sacrifice others on an alter of conformity, fear of reprisal, and social acceptance, etc . A toxic culture normalizes, encourages, and produces toxic individuals, toxic actions, and toxic dynamics. And those things are necessary in order for the toxic culture to survive. Thats why its necessary for orel to break the cycle of toxicity that produced all the wrong he saw growing up in order to not become a victim of the predators or become the predator himself, like many of the townspeople of morelton have, and with his beliefs intact to boot. Thats even in the face of being shot by his alcoholic abusive father. And that takes a lot of strength to do. Many people in moralton were not able to do it and lives were ruined as a result. Which really testifies to orel's charector and the depths of his beliefs due to ultimately being abel to escape the fate of moralton's residents.

​​@@emilybarclay8831to add clay was spoiled by his mom and she died in a prank. Then his dad constantly hit him and he took that as love until one day he pushed him too far. The dad snapped and realized the opp of love isnt hate but indifference. Hence he left him alone. No more hitting nor anything. In a weird way Clay hitting Orel was his messed up way of showing love. And Not a stretch to say he didn't want to show love because he equated loving too much with dying.

Thanks so much! That's such a kind compliment

having him become a good father also shows how sick clay was by comparison - trauma doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you hurt. bad people tend to get worse when they are hurt, but being hurt doesn't mean it's inevitable that you'll hurt others.

Also good to know Shapey and his doppelganger seem to have found rewarding jobs in the future too, as evidenced within the photos at the end.

@@bumblerbree Damn bro that strikes deep lol

I wouldn’t mind seeing how Orel broke the cycle in the end. Sad that CN canceled the show in the end.

@@bumblerbree Nah, no one is born evil, we are born blank slates, and it's the environment we grow up in and the people we grow up around that influence us to become the people we are as adults. Clay could have been a good person, but the trauma he went through and how his father treated him after his mother died definitely played a hand in how he turned out. Clay also lacked the self awareness that Orel has, as Orel was able to become more self aware and acknowledge how fucked up everything was. But Orel also had a few people in his life who were genuinely good influences who were able to help him, that Clay did not have. Trauma definitely doesnt make you a bad person, that's not what im saying at all, but it's how that trauma was handled not just by Clay as an adult, but also by his parents/father after the trauma happened that twisted Clay into what he is now. The way his father treated him shaped many of Clay's integral views on love and how it's shown and reciprocated, which of course affected his relationships with his kids and the other adults around him.

I really couldn't sit through this show when I was a kid, or even a teenager. Too real, too much trauma. Watching even this was difficult, and it took me a few days to finish it. I totally get this. Especially, like, I don't know if anyone else went through this post-9/11, but my entire family changed, so this show was such a gruesome reminder of that.

@@nempne kids today will never know. Even in the 90s going to church was almost compulsory. Everyone I knew made sure they were seen in church, or else face intense judgement.

Right there with you guys. It hits so close to home (bad 'church' mindset, alcoholism) that it was a painful watch for me at first but in the end it made me feel better knowing that a lot of people felt like I did, and that you can choose to put that stuff behind you.

Most of the men in my family were a part of the military, including my dad, and while I grew up in the early 2010s rather than the 90s, the Christian-conservative environment was still going strong and I didn’t know much life outside of it for years. Moral Orel is really comforting to me in that I relate to so much.

I related to this show... alot It made me call a mental health hotline after finishing season 3

Yeah, this doesn't get talked about enough. He was definitely the moraliest of the orels

Morbiorelos

Jokes aside that's basically what happened in 'Turn the Other Cheek' lol

truly one of the morals of all time

Moralbius 2, electric bibleoo

this was probably my fav scene of she show. the way he stops to think about saying the truth and having tre approval of his father, something he longed for before the camping trip, just to realize he hates his father too much to even give him the smallest amount of satisfaction felt like a punch in the stomach. such a small kid having to mature so fast

Ooh definitely going to check out Rick and Steve! Thanks for the tip

@Meromorphic It would be really nifty if you made a video about the show.

As a CSA survivor, it's so fucking real. I used to think when I was younger that I wanted to marry my father because he was the only one who truly loved me. I'm honestly disgusted with myself and I wish I never thought those things

Fellow CSA victim here, and I'm also extremely thankful for it. It made me feel so heard and understood! It's also motivated me to write about my trauma more, in the form of a comic with characters dealing with their trauma. I want this shit to stop being "taboo" and have it be understood by others.

I hope you are not referring to Miss Sculptham's part of Alone. She intentionally got Mr. Creepler to "Attack" her. Any question is laid to doubt in an un-recorded third season script, shared by Dino.

@@doublepinger Bendy

In my opinion, In these times where it's still taboo This kind of taboo subjects can only be addressed in animation or books Because i bet they would project those uncomfortable feelings onto love action actresses in harmful ways

It's insane how symbolic the episode is. At first Bartholemew seems just like a cartoon dog, but, as we go on, we see that he is literally the stand in for Jesus. However, like you said, the townspeople killed him because he was spreading too much love for the other people to compete with. It's the most hypocritical thing I have heard of a church doing, irl or in fiction.

There's a theory that Bartholomew actually is Jesus reborn into a dog. Which adds a whole other layer to the episode in my opinion.

@@Loopimay A theory? It seems pretty textual to me. Or at least v, v obvious subtext

@@Loopimay "A theory". Sure... Like Clay being an alcoholic is a theory.

Makes me think of Dostoevsky's "Grand Inquisitor" story in The Brothers Karamazov-- one of my favorite stories and worth checking out.

I sort of agree. I interpret it to mean that the friends are trying to say their relationship may be bad, but just wait for the light at the end of the tunnel. Whereas the couple just thinks, "nah. As long as we're together, the tunnel has no end. We're stuck in the dark."

I like “I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow, I hope it bleeds all day long”

This

Misery loves company

the whole album Tallahassee is a brutal listen. it paints a picture of hating your partner and yourself. i listened to it in a dingy motel during a blizzard, the sense of isolation that album gives is just crushing.

As a psych major, don’t kink shame me. 😂

“If it wasn’t for your beer goggles you’d get some work done” “HOW DARE YOU!? I don’t drink beer…”

You start off in life as a little baby, with no paperwork, but do we appreciate it all us little babies? no we cry...

"The pain. Of you. Day in, day out, being there. With that face. Not knowing what to say. Not caring anymore. Not even knowing that you'll probably only care about her when it's finally too late. Forgetting about all those desperate- those desperate years you spent alone, your barren years when no woman would even consider resting her tired head on your shaky little shoulder. Stinking of belly semen. Why even wipe?"

"Thats my life! Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-" "Okay Clay, I think we get the point." " *NO, YOU DON'T!* aaaaaaaaaand over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!"

@@jtlego1 well howdy reverend!

RIGHT

Good take

@Deniselee28 This has “Shut the hell your mouth” energy

@Deniselee28 what does this mean?

@Deniselee28 you… having a forever stroke?

@Deniselee28 it’s not clever, just an observation

Did you get this off Reddit?

@@PLASTIPON I think so

oh good for rev

Putty finally got the woman he’d been praying for.

Symbolic in a way tbh

Tbh it's a special type of art for everyone since most of the population is Christianity. I'm both christian and catholic and ngl this is a very special type of show that shows the deep dark side of religious folk Because it is a huge yikes. Since most church are like "beer is bad" "luxury clothes is a sin" "not giving donations to the church (aka money) is a sin" etc etc. The deeper it goes, the dark it is ya know.

@@Nyax50Lopez I don't think this shows the "darker side" of religion or church in general, as it's not really the church's fault. Some sick, messed up people just choose to use people faith in God for their own personal gain(be it financial or something else). Hopefully the church's you've went to repent and change their ways.

This show is evil and propaganda for satan. If you do not see that you have no connection with God.

@@sol-gs2ny It's a very dangerous game to ignore that religion might have (and in fact, definitely does have) a darker side.

The dog calling himself “jesus” and showing unconditional love is supposed to rrepresent, Jesus Christ and his unconditional love for every man and woman who lives by dying for them and accepting them unconditionally despite their sins, the truth and core message message of Christianity .

This is (basically) what I was trying to say, but probably didn't articulate well.

I think they probably would've gotten a chance to explore it if they hadn't gotten cancelled

@@otakucouture They would've I think that's part of why they got canceled, I really wanted to see how they'd have handled the women's traumas

@@otakucouture pnk

He raped Bendy then avoided prison by becoming a transsexual. Kind of like Bruce Jenner.

I agree. In fact, I agree so much that I said so in the video. 😅

They're adults. They have autonomy, even in that ridiculous town. The nurse was able to find her purpose, and so did the librarian, in a sick way.

@@user-fe8gx3ie5v they have autonomy in others ways but over their body it has been stripped from them. Nurse was raped as a child and has incredibly morally wrong relations as an adult with people with power over her. The teacher was raped. Rape quite literally is violating someone’s bodily autonomy. The old woman was forcibly sterilized.All of these show a lack of control over what has happened or is happening to their body.

@@sienna6580 Yes, but she's been working on overcoming it. That particular section of the video was implying they had none. Even with lingering mental issues, they are still able to function well enough to work and survive, even if their private lives are a mess.

@@user-fe8gx3ie5v That's the point. It's delving into the private part of the lives of women who have been violated in that way, showcasing the pain and coping mechanisms that women who either can't afford or don't want therapy use. Them being functioning adults is the cover for the pain they all feel having had their autonomy violated. They're not okay, despite how they present themselves in public. Most rape survivors are like this. That's most likely what the show was trying to convey

makes me wanna see that dog sitting next to jesus in heaven, then jesus annoucing that the town would be going to hell, but only people like stephanie and orel get to go to heaven

Not necessarily that it goes against their beliefs, but rather brings forward all the excused times their beliefs didn't hold up.

Actually that’s what happened to Jesus at that time

That is one truly nihilistic, existential hell to understand right there.

Also ending theme to never lose faith even if all hope is lost. But yeah ironically through all the bs morel kept his faith and religion. I wish the show continued. Would've loved to see a deus ex with reverned putty he was changing for the good. Also not enough of that old lady whom i felt always controlled clay who controlled the town. Very easily in the few episodes we see her she was able to have a firm grasp and mold clay like....clay lol.

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Well, even as someone who is against religion as a global institution, I still think it’d be kinda cringe if you just, like…*told* people to be atheist. They’d never get away with that and have it be believable at all.

@@loganshillington9812 true but a lot of less nuanced media can portray christianity as bad and harmful. i’ve seen a lot takes that basically go “christian cultures and communities hurt people therefore christianity is bad” but this show makes a distinction that christianity itself isn’t the problem, it’s the people who abuse it.

@@fumothfan9 Yuuka spitting fax

Someone mentioned that during the hunting trip where he struggles to get off his belt due to frustration, it shows that alcohol gets in the way of his messed up way to "express love"

Also the fact that he doesn't bother to beat shapy or his wife. Orel really is the only one he "cares" for in the family...

⁠​⁠@@voiceofthelegion578 unless i'm misremembering i think on a few occasions he has briefly hit shapey just to try and shoo him away and shapey just didn't really care. which makes it a little worse because orel clearly is the only one in the house who actually values clay's opinion and cares not to upset him as well. orel and clay mutually trying to involve themselves to maintain standards for each other's benefit is ironically what makes their relationship the most abusive and neglectful in the family.

I honestly dont think clay is gay, maybe bi, but he mostly just looks for someone that adores him like his mother did, anyone who would put him in a pedestal and worthship him

My stepfather used the same excuse, and "believe that if it makes you feel better" about his verbal and sexual abuse throughout my childhood. It's heartbreaking, I'm sorry you got the same lines.