Finally. Being a GT fan is a lonely life.

The thing is, goku in dbz isn't stupid. He has shown on multiple occasions he is incredibly intelligent, but he just isn't educated. Goku in GT is mostly the same, but Goku in Super acts like a literal child.

In gt goku has a body of child but a mind of a wise man In super goku has a body of a adult but a mind of child

I absolutely love what GT did, although I’m aware the execution was far from perfect. When you strip it down to its core, it is basically a very melancholic story about a grandfather going on a last adventure with his granddaughter before having to say the inevitable goodbye; which is already heartwarming/tear jerker in and of itself, but that further rises to ABSURD levels if you think of the whole thing as basically Goku’s ultimate redemption for his “original sin”, the unintentional murder of Grandpa Gohan. It’s not a coincidence, I think, that the circumstances of Ssj4’s awakening are basically what Goku wish had happened the night Gohan died: that he had managed to control the Oozaru and save him. And this time he actually makes it, sparing Pan, his own grandchild, the fate that befell old Gohan. Put this together with the OG Dragon Ball scene where Goku and Gohan meet again at Baba’s tournament, and a waterfall of tears will be the inevitable result. This kind of love for the heart of Dragon Ball’s mythology is why I like GT, and why I’ll always see it as the canon ending to Goku’s journey. As for Super, on the other hand… yeah, it’s… a series of cool fights. Very cool, sometimes. Way cooler than GT’s, for sure. But that’s it. No heart, no themes, no story. Some hints here and there maybe, but nothing more than that.

always liked how GT showed the characters aged up and matured. Vegeta is a chill dad, Gohan and Vide are parents, Goten is a typical teenager, Trunks is a distinguished gentleman lol.

Back when they respected the main characters

In my opinion GT don't deserve to die and be forgotten, great piece of the 90's in my opinion.

GT did a much better job at introducing things that tied back into the lore of DB then what Super ever tried to do

I'm not a fan of either but I'd take GT over Super any day GT does have stuff that I really like. The villains and especially Super Saiyan 4 SSJ4's design was genius becoming more animal like that Blue Hair form from Super is just an eyesore and I hate that it's basically become the default transformation

I don’t know why people do not like part one of GT because it drags out but I mean... Have they ever heard of something called world building? Goku in Super is a kid in an adult body while GT Goku is an adult in a child’s body

The thing i loved about gt is the uniqueness in the villains the villiains in gt had tactics on how to defeat their enemy rather than using raw power gt also did not overuse transformations and kept power level realtively stable while in super transformations were so overused that transformations like super saiyan 1 posed no meaning and there was no reason to use ssj1 when they had ssb and super really did not have anything like an adventure and it never really explore the depths of universe 7 while super expanded so much to the other universes it forgot to reveal lore about the main chracter's universe what a shame,Also the threats posed to the z warriors in super were not even a threat at all as goku and vegeta had got so strong that at this point they were unstoppable In the end,All i want to say is that super is good its not bad but gt is not trash either u see i was one of the fanboys who jumped on the bandwagon that gt is trash for no reason but after watching gt boy i feel like an idiot now For all those people who havent even watched Gt watch it till the end trust me it wont dissapoint i could even dare say its better than super but in the end they both are dragon ball i dont care whichever's the best as long as dragon ball wins i am happy

Lets be honest about golden Frieza. Frieza essentially turned super saiyan. It is nothing like his other transformations they are not mutations or something horrifying which is the whole point of his character. The gold form is like a power multiplier that has a gold form to compensate for the lack of hair

I agree 100%. GT was a way better sequel than Super. Also GT's japanese soundtrack imo blows Supers out of the water.

I think GT is a underrated masterpiece.

Here's why GT is better than Super. *STEP INTO THE GRAND TOUR*

I don't like either but I at least respect GT for it's art direction, for most of it the world design reminded me of the namek saga because since it didn't took place on earth they had to go for more _surreal_ settings, the villans visual design was really well done (with Baby being the standout) and SJJ4 is IMO the best saiyan form ever designed because it's actually a major redesing instead of a hairdo. Super's art direction on the other hand is terrible, none of the villans visual design are memorable, they are downright generic (Giran) or lazy (Black) hell the most memorable villan from super is Frieza who's not even an original character from that series. Not to mention all new saiyan forms which are supposed to be more imposing than SJJ4 are literal hair recolors of base and SJJ1 Goku/Vegeta. Also while I don't enjoy GT as a whole, Baby arc and the ending were really good while none of Supers arc are good to begin with.

GT's tone is also darker and more serious it was the right direction of the show. Super is way too light hearted and like I think you said earlier it's almost like a parody of DBZ.

I love GT more then super Because it's the closest thing to dbz and I love limits unlike DBZ God and universe and then something beyond that Its just joke DBZ is not just about being superior and fighting without a story line

Dragonball gt rules over super anyday

In GT Gohan did not become weaker. He became a geek but not weak.

Actually in the GT perfect files, it stated that Gohan has kept up with his training over the last 15 years

Vegeta in Super still has some immaturity compared to GT. Vegeta knew fusing was their only chance to take on fused Zamasu but he hated the idea and was very close to denying it. Meanwhile in GT, Vegeta was the one to suggest fusion against Omega Shenron because even though he didn't like it, he wanted to protect his home.

I like both, but GT is not only my fave Dragonball show but I think its a MUCH better sequel to Z compared to super.

I actually agree with this video. GT at least tried a new direction. It’s shortcomings were in part by the writers strike. DBS is just bad writing. My biggest beef with it aside just another power up excuse is the fact they put master roshi in the TOP instead of Yamcha. Fights were nice but they series felt devoid of any soul. Even the Dan-Dan opening song has more heart. Completely agree with this argument

GT had over 61 million viewers on TV,super barely get 2 on their best day. Only place gt is hated on is trolls on the internet.

Goku is so selfish and unlikable in Super. The humour and Beerus were keeping me going but I just finished the Beerus saga and I’m not interested in watching meaningless fights where the unlikable, unrelatable, irrelevant protagonist wins yet again by yelling to the point his hair changes a new colour. The fucking worst is the 1 minute explanation of how Goku can still hurt Beerus after losing Super Saiyan God level because of muscle memory. Like you were barely holding your own with him in Super Saiyan God form now you’ve lost that and your doing better. Translation: it makes no actual sense but it’s impractical to have the super Saiyan god ritual done every time and we can’t max out his power level here and just make an exception for our lazy writing because it’s Goku. It’s an insult to fans with a brain, it’s an insult to Beerus, Ares or any other actual gods of war/destruction. This guy said it best, Dragon Ball Super is a parody and a cash grab.

Fans were obsessed with Z fighting that it blinded them from the beauty of adventure that GT presented, that’s the truth unfortunately nowadays many (not all) only wants fighting not story.

i wouldnt mind if they rebooted GT if its the same team that rebooted Broly. So much potential. Like the z-fighter line up in rebooted GT would be: Goku, Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Pan, Uub. The rebooted version needs keep this concept: -ssj4 -baby -shadow dragons -soundtrack -The ending of gt

Totally agreed. GT is by no means a perfect series but Super was, to my disappointment, far, far worse. I agree with anyone that GT = basically Goku Time (Pan got screwed bigly), but Super tried to weirdly force the secondary characters as a gesture to fans, and then thew it away with the Tournament of Power saga. And personally, the Tournament of Power saga was the most boring, cringy, and predictable arc of the entire series.

My heart still thinks that GT is cannon and that Super is spin-off...

When you remember super isn't a sequel but seprequel

1 correction GT takes place after the end of Z whereas Super is set after the defeat of Majin Buu but before end of Z during that 10 year period I entirely agree I find that GT is better than super although there are parts of super that I enjoy, GT has more heart to it I feel and even though it has its problems (some it shares with Super) it just has more heart and does have better story concepts. GTcan be summed up as a series about consequences whether it foolish wishes, revenge for past crimes, or abusing the dragon balls Ssj4 is also an amazing transformation that fits with the lore of the Saiyans

This dude only has 100 subscribers.... he deserves more for how quality his explanations are.

Dbs fans: I say GT sucks more! Gt fans: in my calculation super sucks more!

Let's make this simple...... Monkey > Gods

Bro if you brought up endings of the series then GT would have one I cried seeing that ending

I have to say. Although Toriyama is writing super. He is way older and his idea's aren't as fresh. The man didn't even want to revisit dragon ball but was constantly pressured because there's a market for it. So what he did was write out the general story like a book and let the animators interpret it how they may which is why super feels like such a mess of idea's.

Love how chilled out you are , LOVE these kinda videos! And honestly I'm quite tired of all those Dragontubers basically shouting at me lol

GT is honestly my favorite continuation to Z. I'm not a big fan of what Toriyama and toyotaro did with super. I like super but gt is better

I hate how Beerus feels so childish and he doesn’t feel intimidating at all just childish to appeal to a younger audience

GT did way better than super by far, anyone tryna make any sense out of super needs to see a therapist

To me, GT's ending is the BEST ending of all Anime, it is the proper ending and a respectful farewell to our most beloved character Goku. Every time I watch the GT's ending I have tears in my eyes; I considered it is the TRUE ending of Dragon Ball.

GT felt like Dragon Ball Z. The character designs are waaaaay better.

GT is the superior show plain and simple. In the Baby arc GT did more with Goten/Trunks than Super has in 5 shitty arcs which includes 2 pointless tournaments

Gt felt like a true sequel with much better animation and new forms super can't compare( only good things are Berus and Black).

I prefer GT too.

Honestly, if I were to give my own opinion on why I like GT more than Super, I'd be repeating what others have said. Instead, I'm gonna say this….. How do we go from a story about adventure to a more action oriented story to a story that starts as an adventure before becoming more action to an official parody? In a way, GT felt like a conclusion to a much greater story. A story that wouldn't have happened if Goku hadn't met Bulma. A story about adventure and making friends out of enemies. That is what OG Dragon Ball is about, adventure. Z is a continuation of that initial story, but, focusing more on action as a sign of the characters growing. The ending to Z will never not put a smile on my face. GT, as another commenter put it, is a story about a grandfather going on a final adventure with his granddaughter before inevitably having to say goodbye. GT's ending will always make me tear up no matter what. GT is the culmination of everything that happened since the beginning of OG Dragon Ball. Goku feels like a veteran after everything he's gone through. Super just feels disappointing. It reduces the story to a joke, especially Goku. As much as I love Beerus and Whis, this just felt like a retcon. Super Saiyan God and Blue don't just feel as special as Super Saiyan 4. SSJ4 felt powerful and a way of bringing Goku and Vegeta back to their roots as Saiyans.

GT had LARGE amounts of potential. Every arc concept was fantastic but the execution not so much. Most characters were unimportant.

It's kinda funny because I think the reason GT is more tonally consistent is because it's right off the heels of the DBZ run. Where as Super feels more like it's panging to nostalgia almost as if it's going "HEY HEY! REMEMBER.... DrAgOn BaLl!??" which is weird considering globally next to Pokemon I'd say Dragon ball is the most pervasive widespread bit of popularized anime that everyone knows about. Where GT tried to build on the Lore from preexisting content, Super tries creating callbacks to the past as content for no reason. Where GT can be disappointing when it misses a beat, Like for example most don't like GT Trunks, They liked the memory of super cool Future Trunks... But when Super gives you Future Trunks back... it's just hollow. Whereas we may liked the Battle-hardened Post-apocalypse future Trunks, he existed for a reason to make it so one future would be better than the other. When you reintroduce him it undermines his sacrifice he made and the character Arc he had to go through to achieve it.... It also greatly undermines the Trunks the saved timeline can become. Someone whose more carefree and looking for adventure.

GT was not bad at all. Of course had some poor moments but so did Z and OG dragon ball. Super is just.. bad man.

I like GT, and it has a better Goku, as he’s smart and matured, while Goku from super is…….. kinda….. an Idoit.

you've captured by thoughts so perfectly its almost scary. very well done, dude.

This video is amazing, expressses everything ive loved about gt for a while.

To me, OG bardock is still canon, and GT is the only sequel

There's no real feeling of danger in Super. It's really lazy writing with Super. DBGT you felt like Omega Shenron could obliterate the universe.

Great video man! You explained your points really well and are now making me consider finally watching dbgt! I really liked your chill tone, keep doing what you’re doing! Subscribed!

this isnt an unpopular opinion, everyone knows GT is better, animation, story, character development, its just better than super.

I think I disagree with pretty much your whole video. But I loved hearing your opinions. Very interesting and well thought out and put together. Great job bud.

GT great premise, great execution, great soundtrack, bad fans. GT was the true end of the series in many fans' hearts.

Also, with Kakarot going through with the whole God route. Isn't he the same guy that turned down the role of Kami back in Dragon Ball? Why would he turn around and choose the whole God route after turning down becoming God?

If only the current dragon ball had better writers...

I agree with almost everything, but the comment on the Cell Saga. I personally think it was by far the best saga. The threat felt like it was real with Cell. A powerful Villain who was practically Immortal with all the strengths of every powerful known fighter with very few weaknesses able to regenerate from almost nothing. A monster that skulked around sucking the life force from thousands of humans hunting them down like they were ants if not more considering how strong he was compared to 17, and Piccolo. Then when he powered up before absorbing 17, and destroying Piccolo as you could hear the screams of all his victims in his power trying to come out. Omg that shit gave me chills the first time I watched it. Easily the best power-up in all of DB IMO. Imperfect Cell's best quote "I could absorb you Piccolo, but I have all that I need of your being in my cell structure already you are of no value to me anymore you are just refuse. Goodbye."

It’s not an unpopular opinion, it’s the truth, GT gave us SSJ4, a beautiful transformation while DBS had SSGSS, a SSJ with blue hair and blue eyes

While I'm not a fan of either: Super or GT but of the 2 I think GT did a better job. GT: had more soul and effort, kept Goku's character, the fights had tension, realized Goku needed to be weakened, and was more mature noticing actions need to have consequences. Super has little lore and power levels/scaling made almost no sense with very little story. One reason why Super often is preferred might be that GT came out after DBZ and with fan fatigue at a high after the Buu Arc while Super brought the franchise back after a long hiatus

GT may not be canon however canon doesnt matter much when it comes to QUALITY and people should not over glorify akira as a writter cause he alone was not the sole reason of DBZ success much like butch hartman is not the only person responsible for the fairly odd parents.

I’ve loved GT since I was a child, the first dozen or so episodes are pretty forgettable but from baby saga onwards it’s brilliant, shadow dragon saga especially

GT fiercely dominates super, enough said.

Ssg shouldve just been the last transformation t.o.p should've been a martial arts tournemt going back to the world tournements and banned a ki attack and rely on there true inner power instead of ki and transformstions

You ain't even started talkin yet and I liked and subscribed lmao

GT always had a special place in my heart. It brought back the adventure aspect of the original Dragon Ball while keeping the spirit of DBZ. I remember crying at the end of GT when Goku left with Shenron, very bitter sweet (“:

Gohan did NOT become weak in GT, in the perfect files it said he kept training. The reason he looks weak is because GT's villains are just that much more powerful.

I’ll be honest. I loved super 17. Baby is my favorite. But I do think 17 was a little underrated despite the way it came to be being awesome, but also kinda dumb. Also the ending of that fight made sense and people misinterpreted what was going on during ssj4 vs super 17. Mostly due to the bad writing during that fight. If you don’t know what I mean. Goku was trying to overload 17 with ki since he was absorbing it with a x10 kamehameha, he also showed signs that taking too much ki could be fatal. Goku tested this by shooting weak ki blasts. When he did super 17 body bulked harshly from absorbing. And prior in the fight super 17 was just too fast for goku to tag with an actual hit, and he couldn’t be blindsided either. Goku tried to use instant transmission to do so but 17s 6th sense of being able to sense the vibrations of the molecules goku is about to appear from allowed him to counter goku’s attacks nonstop. Super 17 was overconfident and goku took advantage of it when he tried a x10 Kamehameha. He had no other option since the fight was not in his favor to begin with, and it would be only a matter of time before he lost. So taking advantage of 17 overconfidence he gave super 17 even more energy with a x10 and almost caused him to explode from too much ki at once. Even (forgot his name) was worried 17 wouldn’t be able to absorb that much. After that failed the match was decided. And 18 saved the day, infinitely shooting ki blasts. And then, goku finally found super 17 one weakness, once he stops absorbing hi can’t stop, because it requires all the ki protecting his body in order to form the absorption barrier. And prior in the fight it was shown that once it’s up he never moves from his spot because he is unable to. His stance is the only thing keeping him from dying from a weak ki blast. Goku realizes this and with the last of his energy punches through 17.

Gt 64 episodes 2 good arc and lots of respect for the lore. Super 131 episodes 1 good arc ( zamasu ) no respect for the lore.

Gt/Movie Timeline Gohan, actually never stopped training.

This was very insightful. I felt that Goku was overused as a lead character in Super. He wasn’t getting any real growth, and he was often responsible for whatever big event happened, sort of making him his own villain at times. What I would have liked was a different cast with the same aspects. (a la Universe 6) Most of U6’s cast would have been awesome for its own story. (Kale (I think it was Kale) was more like a failed Broly fan-service attempt.)

I enjoyed Dragon Ball GT more than anything else. The adventure, the soundtrack. I was completely mind blown as a kid and to this day there is not a single lore video about GT that I don't watch.

Thank you for your effort doing this was fun to watch and would almost agree with everything u said, i just hate they hype over Super and in General what they did with Goku in Super In addition u could have taken random power ups more into account like trunks vs fused zamasu Kefla as strong as UI Goku.....

Yes...yes it is. The animation in super makes it unwatchable for me

i just finished gt, my first dragon ball series. i picked it first because i know the basics of their relationships. i felt insane going online and seeing everyone hate this show. it felt like the biggest love letter ever

Should change the title, “popular opinion DBGT is better than DBS.” The sudden uprise of haters on super is absurd.

I saw that playlist thinking that Kai is now on KZfaq! :-D I love the Dragon Ball Z! Kai Dub and Z Remastered Dub are both amazing! Old Voice Actors and New Voice Actors are both amazing and awesome!

I agree completely that GT is better than Super. I also agree that aside from Super Saiyan 4 and the Shadow Dragons, GT was a far cry from how good Z was. Yes the power levels are ridiculous in Super, and we even had Goku and Beerus almost punching apart the fabric of reality. But the feats are extremely inconsistent. Sometimes their fights barely effect the environment, despite having god ki or we have Krillin able to hold off Super saiyan blue. The animation also feels so much less gritty than the other dragon ball shows. The punches seem like they have no weight, the sound effects are different. They only usually get some dirt on their face and clothes, without there being much wounds like in z. The animation looks more childish also. Goku's personality is also way worse than other dragon ball shows. He was way more mature in Z and knew when to be serious. All in all, Super was barely enjoyable for me to watch. Also the fact that they still haven't surpassed Beerus after 6 or 7 years of being a show. I enjoyed some animations in the touranment of power arc. And also the Broly movie's animation. But I also dislike that they brought Broly back, it didn't seem necessary at all. I also dislike how they keep pumping out forms that barely can do anything and made og super saiyan useless. The forms also are just re colorings of their hair. Just so many dumb things about super. DBZ wasn't perfect, but it was so cool a show that it was forgivable. Super isn't even that enjoyable to watch. I kinda wish they just continued where dragon ball gt left for the story. Maybe they can make a super dragon ball gt after super is over.

I like gt more than super for many things, but the biggest thing for me is simpley becease there is tension in gt. In super you have gods that can simply defeat or assist the hero's to defeat the villain. Look at how zamasu got defeated, look at how goku was able to defeat frieza after he blows up the planet in revival of f. All where doings of the gods that made them win in the end. There was 0 tension in those moments becease of those gods helping out. And the tournament of power also din't have tension. Simply because we all knew that they would wish back everyone who got erased by zeno, and the fact that super in the timeline is in between kid buu's death and the tournament uub was introduced. Meaning they couldn't let goku's Universe get erased simply becease that wouldn't have made sense for the end of z, that comes after super. Also i appsolutely HATE the potara fusion retcon. I will never forgive super for how the nerfed vegito. Now they made it look like that vegito had luck to get absorbed in time by super buu in z. And I hate that.

In my opinion, GT is bad, but Super is infinitely worse.

You should make a video as to why Baby is your favourite Dragon Ball villain. Honestly, I feel the same and I'd like to see someone elses perspective.

It's been like 8 yrs or something since the last time I watch db. And as a kid, I was so hyped to see what his next transformation would be. But now, i realised that story matters more than action/transformations The last saga i watched was before buu, now that I think of it, I kinda think the story might be better if they made goten and trunks the mc then have him train with his normal-living brother. And dead characters shouldn't be revived. Deaths and sacrifices in db aren't been taken seriously because of that revive sh*t (as for what i remember). Still, i might rewatch this show someday for that nostalgia feels:)

Thank you so much man, I’m very late to this, but I agree 100%, it’s optional whether you like gt or super better, but I think it’s only correct to aggree that gt is a better continuation to dbz

You gotta come back and make more videos bro this was awesome

At least gt was original in power ups and villains super just recycles and recolors every old power up and villains then slaps a half assed name on em...half assed regurgitated power ups and half assed names for em

This is a great analysis!

GT is 9999x better than the bad animation no plot unoriginal forms too many forms that mean nothing and are just so that characters can power up quickly with almost no build up lookin ass DBS

Man I really hope they bring back ss4 just for broly. If he comes back in the TV anime I hope they use him to show the "power from anger" saiyan side and bring back the "you fucked up at making me angry" narrative. He could really be a hulk figure in the Dragonball universe, and he's like the only way I see to give more life to the basic and non canon ss transformations, seeing that they kinda canonized false super saiyan in the movie(?). Ya I know they didn't but I wanna dream

They both have strengths and huge gaping weaknesses, but supers mistakes are way more agregious.

I'm from Brazil, and even here where dbz and dbgt are 2 classiscs of many people childhoods, dbgt is really underrated here, but the ones who like it will gladly show you why they love the gt lore more than dbs

I love this insight. Really well done video.

i hope you will make a part 2 to this topic once the dragon ball super part 2 comes out, or you could talk about the manga chapters of Granolah and Moro arc

GT is better than super. Just needed to let that be known and add on.

I think they’re both bad but super is definitely worse IMO

Regardless of what the fans prefer, the fact that GT and Super are objectively comparable is just depressing as a fan. At least the movies are still good.

GT should have focused more on Uub. That was the whole point of the end of Z.