I haven't watched any of the other videos you've posted on this yet, but I'll get to them. What I'm saying is my opinion, based on my experience with other Yamaha and Korg keyboards. I've not had the opportunity to play either the PA5X or the Genos 2 yet. First, sound quality. It has always been my feeling that the Korg PA, or Professional Arranger, wasn't really designed as a gigging instrument, but a studio instrument. Because of that, the sounds it has are more 'raw', and not dripping in effects that you would find in a more finished product. The Yamaha, on the other hand, is more gig-ready in it's sounds. You don't need to worry about how much reverb or such that you need, because it's already there. With the Korg, you can go in and add the effects you want, and route them in a ton of ways that isn't possible on the Genos, and get the sound you want. You can also, of course, route them through external effects before your DAW. You can route the Genos also, but a lot of it is already done. You can add more, but if it's in the actual samples, you can't remove it. In that regard, I prefer the Korg because I get a more natural sound out of it. But, I play 'The Great American Songbook' and don't play a lot of music that 1980s and newer where the sounds are dripping in effects. I prefer to be able to add what I want, and not worry about having to remove something that I can't. Styles. A huge difference between the Genos and the Korg. Chord recognition. I'm not talking about the actual chord (I am, but I'll make it clear) but the type of chord. Yamaha recognizes the chord, and plays a pattern for each of the style elements. Play a Major, a Seventh, a Sixth, a Minor, and Augmented or a Diminished, and it always plays the same chord pattern for each chord, just different notes. Whereas, the Korg treats each of those chord types differently, or, at least, it CAN. A bass pattern may be nearly the same for all six chord types, but a guitar or piano part may be very different for a Major versus a Diminished or an Augmented chord. This isn't available on all styles, but where it is, it is very noticeable. To me, that makes the styles of the Korg more 'musical' and 'realistic.' Furthermore, this has been the standard for Korg since the introduction of the ORIGINAL i3 way back in the 1990s, when it was introduced in 1993. Pricing. They are priced out of the reach of so many individuals, but really, Korg prices haven't gone up *that* much. I currently have a PA800, which is 18 years old. I've had to replace the touchscreen and the power supply once. In 2008, when I bought mine (about two years after it was introduced; I had a PA80 before that) even with a discount from Guitar Center Pro (because I worked for a supplier for them), I still paid $3,500. Today, a PA5X-61 is only $1,200 more, $2,000 more if you purchase the new PaAS Mk II. For 18 years of inflation, that really isn't bad. I can't afford one now, but I eventually will get one. I've seen a B-Stock (in store demo unit) of the 88 key version of $4,300, which is amazing, since it is a demo unit and has a full Korg warranty. The PA5X 88 is $5,300 new, the Genos 2 is $5,700, both are for the keyboard alone. Add $800 for the new PaAS Mk II and you're at $6,100, add the speaker system, a stand, and a couple of pedals to the Genos 2, and you're at $6,400! So, fully maxed out, with everything you need to play, you're at about $6,400 (plus tax here in the States, depending on which state you live in) for either one. In one case, you get 88 keys with a weighted keyboard and in the other you get 76 keys. For out gigging, the Genos 2 is probably a better choice, since there's less to do for the sounds. Plug it into a nice PA system, and you're set to go. The PA5X would take more work to set up the sounds for something like that. Both offer Microphone inputs, the Korg also offers a guitar input and guitar cabinet simulations, so if you're doing a duo with a guitar player, all of their effects are built into the Korg, and you can run both instruments to one PA system. But, I think the Korg would be better in the studio, particularly the home studio. Anyway, my opinion. I'll get to the other videos in the next few days.

Great video! Your video editing just gets better and better.

Nice observations from you all. And yes I do notice the build of the PA5x seems more substantial. But on the other hand the Genos 2 is lighter for moving. I have had the Korg PA5x for a year or so. I like it. Got the Genos 2 a few months ago I like it too. I just can’t settle on one over the other, they are both good. Still need to use the Genos 2 a little more. Thanks again for the video

Korg need to DO their long promised UPDATE. I'm not encouraged to buy it until they do, and obviously the longer that takes, it doesn't give me confidence to buy that product. I mean, will there BE an update? That's a worry to me. It doesn't show commitment by Korg? But I won't spend out on a Genos or Genos 2 anyway, because for that kind of money a cheap plastic case is just ridiculous. Who the hell let that become part of a TOTL arranger? The Tyros cases looked professional, but the Genos case is shocking. So for the time being, the money stays in the bank!

Lovely video. Decribing the sounds, i believe it depends on what you are looking for. The pa5x is more of a 'edit yourself sounds.' With the yamaha, the sounds are cd quality and more of a studio feel. Whereas korg is a live verison with no effects added. I do hope one day we will get a video where the sounds on the korg are edited enough to make it sound like a yamaha

Couldn't agree more...I have both a Korg PA700 and a PSR S 975... together I get a nice combination of different styles and tones..without breaking the bank.

Good video and some very Interesting comparisons. The Genos 2 is definitely lacking in the build quality. There is no real excuse for that given the price. I do think Yamaha nailed it in the sound department but there are certainly issues they should have addressed by now.

I need a keyboard with korg buildqualite and yamaha sounds. Now I use DGX670 AND aPSR sx900.

The build on genos isn't bad it doesn't feel cheap at all the only complaint I have with Genos is the lettering on the buttons it can wear away over time.

This was a video I needed to see and to hear as I have been torn between the PA -5X and the Geno’s and the DGX and I think I will be having the best of all three thru the DGX and it is 3 times less $$ EXPENSIVE $$ than the other two mentioned earlier. So that makes the DGX the no brainer for me. And especially with my budget. I have a KORG X-2 now 30 years old and it has got relatively great sounds in it even compared to the latest keyboards out there however the floppy disk drive has failed and now I think the backup memory battery has failed so I will be going for the DGX. Hands down.

I have seen several threads and videos stating that the Genos comes tuned/EQd and good to go right out of the box, whereas the Pa5x is rmore "raw". If you take the time to EQ the output of Pa5x I believe you will get much better results.There is a Maxx Audio setting that should be enabled. Because there is nothing wrong with the sounds themselves. Just my 2 c..

I highly disagree with the sound difference from Genos 1 to Genos 2. Genos 2 is a vast enhancement. Even the sounds that carry over sounds better on the G2. The New Steinberg Reverb do a big of the difference just giving it a much better defined audio stage, and the new drums is also a nice step forward building further on the revo drums. Despite Yamaha needs to start rethinking their conservatism of not having any meaningfull sound edits in their arranger lineup which is hillarious, the addition of just the current state of the preset DX7 sounds gives you a much bigger posibility of fairly easy getting those big LA Piano or other combos of a real synth and AWM sounds combined. I hope Yamaha will later add the posibility of loading DX sysex sounds into the YEM software. I don't expect to get a full blown Montage in the Genos, but Korg is a couple heads in front of the Genos in actually having some "sound design" features. Nothing beats Yamaha in the pure quality and expressiveness of its S.art sounds but they need to stop being so anal about being afraid that noone would buy their Synths if the add some real sound edit like we have had for 2-3 decades in any romplers that cost a fraction of these expensive boards. I am positive surpriced that Yamaha actually got a pretty good aftertouch implementation on the G2 which was horrible bad on the G1 despite using the same FSX keybed as the Montage line. I still liked the Keybed and sturdyness of the old P9000Pro much better. This is a sad developement over the Tyros years to go over to 100% plastic. I do like the weight change from the 27kg P9000Pro to todays 17Kg but I still miss having at least a base aluminium frame and could live with the added weight that would give. I do agree that considdering the cost of memory today It's kinda sad to see measly 15gb available. There could easily be 1tb available in many of todays instruments this is not just a Yamaha issue. The 3gb expansion (sample) memory is due to the VLSI design. Genos uses the same chips as the Montage ModX for sound generation and the chip only have a 32bit memory adress range so its the same problem as old 32bit OS'es on computers that they have a max of 4.3gb memory adress range for the sample memory. But with Yamaha bringing out the software version of The Montage M for at first Montage M owners only, we can just hope that Yamaha has seen the light and are working on ditching the archaic VLSI design and going 100% software based in the future. It would also make it able to get around the problem with the prealocated Effect processors in the Genos line and give people real SST functionality which is one of the cons of the Genos that people more or less starts to demand today.

You can see the chords of the long intro like a chordsequenser, press twice, you can play endless and improvised with the long intro. The same, press twice the break etc. It's has also a different pattern if you started the long intro with a MINOR or MAJOR chord, have you already try it or noticed it?? No GENOS 😢

Pa5X all the way, including sounds 😁🤟

Sorry but the style you played on the Genos 2 is too monoish. You made it stand out only because of your fast fantastic right hand playing. The PA5X sounded better for me. You mentioned nothing about a very important component that being if they have SST. The PA5X I think has seamless sound transition whilst the Genos 2 hasn't which is a pity at that price. The Genos 2 memorises the MIDI settings in each Registration whilst I don't know if the PA5X does this. The Genos 1 does not. How about including also the Ketron Event in this field? Thank you for this review video.

Your initial point; YES! The keyboards are nothing buy a laptop+custom midi controller!!!. The only value might be in how well the software clicks with the user. Reality! THERE IS NOTHING special in any of these beast! They are all CPU/Software based. There is ZERO justification for these prices! BUT, as long as people keep over paying, the top three will keep charging top dollar! Me? I don't see the quality or value in any of them once they bust the 3k mark!!! When you can get a Nautilus for $1700 brand new, how do you justify these 5-7k boards!!!!??? IF you want the biggest bang? It's still a quality laptop/desktop, giant monitor so you don't go blind, and some great instrument VST packs. NONE of the All-in-one workstations compare! Right now, I'd say the Komplete Kontrol MKII S88 w subscription service, will blow them all out of the water without trying! Plenty of cheap/free DAW's out there that are far easier to use than the workstations as well!

And please spend time with the keyboards you want to review ... I was so disappointed with the styles you selected on the PA5x and even Genos, at least there are other interesting genres like ballads, funk etc., so I expected to sample a few of each. Also sample big band or the least comparative styles ...so we can judge ourselves but... Anyway ...objective opinion bro

PA5X has a lot mistakes but untill now is much more bether as Genos.No full ringer mode Octacord play wrong bas pasage,Display is fixed,big instrument,plastic,infrastructure and screen infrastructure wrong and more,more?Thancks for Genos i will stay on PA5X

And back your claims with practicals ... play as you compare ... Common

not true at all ...my bro sound is subjective ...at all at all. Return their money if you were motivated. Common bro ....aaah. i expected to hear strengths in each one and disadvantage on each. for me ...the Pa5x is impressive with the pianos and Genos gud with brass and guitar ...thats my impression but ... this review bro ....hahahahaha

I totally disagree with you on the 5X and you are entitled to your opinion, I have practically every Korg synth out there and the technology that the 5X has, no other arranger to date can come close, now you are comparing a synthesizer to an arranger with full synthesizer capabilities? they are two different keyboards, those monitors are too cheap to really hear the quality, spending a little time at a music store does not give justice to the PA5x until you dig in deeper and the updates that will be coming will knock all the arrangers out of the water as far as editing because it is the most flexible out there. Maybe you are a YAMMIE enthusiast? or maybe VST? You are going to compare the piano of the Trinity to the KORG PA5X? come on give me a break, I have been in the business too long to hear this, you may sway a few arranger players not to buy PA5X but if you look at most videos it's very strong in Europe and Middle east due to the fact of the immigration of older sets getting transferred to 5X that will have a huge sample user memory and also one of the main reasons that I switched to the 5X.

Boring