UPDATE: Improving Magneto Contacts | BikeBerry Tips and Tricks

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10 жыл бұрын

UPDATE: Improving Magneto Contacts | BikeBerry Tips and Tricks
We've received a lot of concerns regarding electrical issues with the 2-stroke bike engine kits. If you're having inconsistent spark, poor performance, or unable to even create spark, it may be due to the magneto loop set's coating. Grab some sand paper and remove it for proper contact with the engine body as well as proper ground. WARNING: Doing so will make the magneto vulnerable to moister damage. I highly recommend sealing the magneto case with weather resistant sealant to prevent such damages.
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@Mother_Mia
@Mother_Mia 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish you guys would show the part where you tighten the bolts down. Thats important to see for newbies.
@thedude3189
@thedude3189 2 жыл бұрын
Hand tight with socket/screw driver and a squeeze or hand tight and a quarter turn usually on small bolts like 10mms. Doesn't take much so don't muscle it like crazy.
@drohrstestes
@drohrstestes Жыл бұрын
They won't unless they redo it.
@bostrickland2443
@bostrickland2443 3 жыл бұрын
Want to thank you for this informative video in other videos that I had used for troubleshooting I was stumped on getting my motor going till I watch this video you guys rock man appreciate it
@dustinkrejci6142
@dustinkrejci6142 10 жыл бұрын
it nice to see you guy uploading ! thump this if u agree and want bikeberry to be more active!
@hutfrd
@hutfrd 7 жыл бұрын
There are a lot o shortcomings in this self-proclaimed "short in-depth" video. Mainly, what do you do with the white wire if you don't use it?? And for those of you wondering how to gap the mag correctly, take a business card and fit it between the magnet and the u-shape piece. ''Tis perfect!
@scottdudley6201
@scottdudley6201 5 жыл бұрын
He said he doesn't recommend using it.
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire 4 жыл бұрын
It still leans to one side after I tighten it, would you recommend shaving down that end, or is it ok if it rubs a little?
@LoneRonin77
@LoneRonin77 2 жыл бұрын
White wire is for lights or anything that might take power. Dont use it, the magneto isnt strong enough to power motor and lighting and such
@Konstantinosmo
@Konstantinosmo Жыл бұрын
Very usefull video as always. If i replace the standard 6volts magneto coil with a 12volts magneto coil, it will damage the cdi?
@albertvonrichthofen2335
@albertvonrichthofen2335 7 жыл бұрын
My crank seal is leaking onto the magneto, is it advisable to replace the magneto and the seal or can I get away with cleaning and drying the fuel soaked magneto for reuse?
@adamcolbertmusic
@adamcolbertmusic 5 жыл бұрын
This was actually EXACTLY the "diagram" and explanation of the magneto I was looking for!!!! Though you didn't go in depth, it all made sense for me: the engine is physically rotating the magnet (powered via crankshaft etc), and the bar magnet in side (which has a north-south polarity of course) spins perpendicularly against the direction of the copper coils, effectively becoming a AC generator because it induces current in the leads of the magneto (ALSO it gives the iron engine block ITSELF an electromagnetic charge), and the current in the leads from the magneto are 'ultimately' connected to the spark plug, which, being at another side of the engine block, completes the circuit into the engine, the engine block itself also being the ground. I've still yet to figure out HOW the spark plug works (not "what" it does, not it's "purpose" in the engine, but HOW it works :) ), but this vid really unlocked a piece of the entire puzzle!!! :) :) :)
@calltheriot
@calltheriot 3 жыл бұрын
It makes ac tho
@petermcgrath5215
@petermcgrath5215 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it's AC
@adamcolbertmusic
@adamcolbertmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Corrected, thank you
@MattmanCDN
@MattmanCDN 10 жыл бұрын
Cool tips thanks!
@thecbc7658
@thecbc7658 7 жыл бұрын
Can you install an 80CC birdlike/scooter CDI system to create more spark and as result able to burn better and more fuel????
@jepus63
@jepus63 5 жыл бұрын
What about connecting a rectifier to the white wire wouldn't it apply more power to the light
@layneloehr9318
@layneloehr9318 9 жыл бұрын
i had 4 people with 4 volt meters test coil and mag could not get correct readings what are we doing wrong ? thanks the kit is great
@sona6603
@sona6603 4 күн бұрын
What kind of nut is used to hold the magnet in? I’m fixing up my motor and I need a new one but can’t find a specific answer to get a replacement
@heberalanis6190
@heberalanis6190 9 жыл бұрын
How many volts it can generate the magneto coil??
@lancebarton4361
@lancebarton4361 2 жыл бұрын
Why does my new phantom engine keep pushing my woodruff key out? The gear is new,keyway is new washer is on the bolt.
@MUHAMMADHUSSAIN-gr7so
@MUHAMMADHUSSAIN-gr7so 8 жыл бұрын
how many voltage produced by bendix company magnetos
@Jeffthenoob199
@Jeffthenoob199 8 жыл бұрын
this is not an in depth video this just shows you how to put it on doesnt explain how the magneto alignment is supposed to be just tells you the magnet alignment
@chucklehead3697
@chucklehead3697 7 жыл бұрын
thanks
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
Always glad to know our content is helpful
@integrationofmanandmachine4714
@integrationofmanandmachine4714 4 жыл бұрын
You guys don't understand
@jonnyc2.047
@jonnyc2.047 3 жыл бұрын
no one sells the bolt for this magneto eetf i can right it till i get this part where do i buy it whats the name of it
@PappaGahnj
@PappaGahnj 9 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you guys could post a video on how to wire in a better cdi to the dragonfire engine. I want to use something like the jaguar to adjust spark timing. Or a huffy davidson to utilize the keyed ignition. Will the old style ignition fit inside the dragonfire? Any help would be much appreciated. My engine has high comp. head...high perf. carb and reed valve kit...expansion pipe...now it need more elect. juice...been told the spark timing is crap on these cdi s....
@diesel_delph9764
@diesel_delph9764 6 жыл бұрын
There's two wires running down from the computer that you connect where the wires come out of the motor you just match them up they're the same color I have the Jaguar installed on mine and I don't know how to adjust it I was thinking it might do it automatically but if you have any information on how to adjust that I'd gladly appreciate it
@gwosterman
@gwosterman 2 жыл бұрын
What size wrench is recommended for the magneto cover bolts. 7/64 Allen seems loose , but 1/8 is too big.
@minehunter5854
@minehunter5854 2 жыл бұрын
M6 bolt
@fudk_off1312
@fudk_off1312 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2 stroke bicycle kit and was wondering if installing a pull start would damage the magneto.
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
Luckily, magnetos are simple designs and have no actually electric parts and very few moving parts. This makes it hard to damage any magneto without actually physical damage being asserted to it. A pull start add on, should work just fine.
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire 4 жыл бұрын
@@bikeberry what if the magneto's rubbing on one side, what solutions do you have?
@DeniseWastaken
@DeniseWastaken 25 күн бұрын
My magneto has reduced magnetism. What do I do?
@victorlarraondo9323
@victorlarraondo9323 8 жыл бұрын
i have a question what if the magneto in the center is so tight i tried to move it but is so tight that is inmpossible to move , do you think that could be a reqson why my engine is not starting ? i could never get the engine running since i got it
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 6 жыл бұрын
victor larraondo where are you from im looking for a motor for a fix up project.
@reallee9385
@reallee9385 5 жыл бұрын
Any lucky Victor
@catoche1944
@catoche1944 9 жыл бұрын
1 question ! Peut t'on mettre une clavette a avance variable ?
@integrationofmanandmachine4714
@integrationofmanandmachine4714 4 жыл бұрын
Qué bien pour la Jolla
@jamseyy
@jamseyy 9 жыл бұрын
Hey I got the DragonFire engine with integrated internal CDI. It won't spark! What can I do? Already tried a different spark plug so I know its not that
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 9 жыл бұрын
coolstorybrooooooo Hit us up, it sounds like you got a defective CDI. Support @ BikeBerry.com or call us at 800-317-0479 from 9 AM till 4 PM Pacific Time on weekdays
@oracionysanidad9373
@oracionysanidad9373 8 жыл бұрын
i bought a mega motor like three weeks ago from your company and i installed it it worked good but after one week i passed a bump and it stopped and did not start no more i scraped the magneto still no spark i take off the spark plug to see spark and no spark
@oracionysanidad9373
@oracionysanidad9373 8 жыл бұрын
what is it
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 7 жыл бұрын
the CDI might be shook up. if you replace that, cut a piece of rubber like an innertube to cushion it at the frame mounting. vibration could have killed it.
@richierich-qg1os
@richierich-qg1os 5 жыл бұрын
How would you connect a LED lights on that white wire do you use the white wire and black wire or what do you use just wondering
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 5 жыл бұрын
give us a call at (800)317-0479 so we can properly assist you.
@integrationofmanandmachine4714
@integrationofmanandmachine4714 4 жыл бұрын
That I don't understand
@Op1zilla
@Op1zilla 3 жыл бұрын
White would b hot wire for your light, then u would have to ground the other wire from light on frame of bike
@MeiGunner
@MeiGunner Жыл бұрын
it Doesnt Matter what Bot the BLack wire Goes on ( right?)
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire 4 жыл бұрын
One side of the magneto touches slightly while turning. Will that be an issue?
@meanoldrunk
@meanoldrunk 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire
@saved_yet_so_as_by_fire 4 жыл бұрын
@@meanoldrunk thanks, looks like I have a couple of millimeters of separation on both sides now. I sanded down the base where that it screws onto, and carefully tightened it so it didn't pull to one side.
@omarperez8297
@omarperez8297 8 жыл бұрын
did anyone else get a clear oil spill out of there magnito? I got no spark, I bypass the KS, got a new plug, and nothing. ....if water got into the magnito compartment, what would be the best fix? any information appreciated.
@joshrichards8889
@joshrichards8889 7 жыл бұрын
wd40 is ur answer I was made to displace water in cars electronics hence the wd (water displacement formula 40
@shivakumarcts278
@shivakumarcts278 6 жыл бұрын
How can i get a spare Magnet ,lot during a complete overhaul In India i cannot source the have the spare
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen them for sale on EBAY.Good luck.
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 6 жыл бұрын
Why dose the magnet have to be at the 1 oclock position wouldn't it just move around anyway when the bike gets rolled? Please reply.
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
The 1 o'clock position is considered its default starting position which aids in alignment and synchronization with other moving parts. Doing this reduces the chance of installation error or engine malfunction.
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you vary much for the reply i have been doing alot of research and trying to retain as much information as possible again thanks and have a nice day. 🙃
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 6 жыл бұрын
BikeBerrycom thank you for the kinda informative response
@0Kizzy
@0Kizzy 5 жыл бұрын
I blew the cylinder out and replaced it found I I had no spark and replaced it now I'm getting spark and still won't fire . If I never tore the engine completely down would it still be at tdc
@ronniematthews3408
@ronniematthews3408 8 жыл бұрын
My magneto keeps breaking down every 1200 miles... is it getting wet or is this normal?
@integrationofmanandmachine4714
@integrationofmanandmachine4714 4 жыл бұрын
Seal it
@RichardWreckless
@RichardWreckless 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 66cc with HD lightning box and coil. I can tune the carb but after many tries and even trying different carbs, I still have a 4-stroking problem from above idle and up, worst at top speed. Any tips? Up compression? NGK 3-prong plug? Or is there something I neglected to check? The Mag is oriented in the proper position but I have cackling and power loss after 10mph. I've jetted all the way up and down the jet kit I bought and when running rich, the problem only drastically gets worse.
@chubrikzhopa4881
@chubrikzhopa4881 6 жыл бұрын
RichardWreckless put on a boost bottle I have a friend who had extreme power loss when holding 75 of throttle
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
@anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an air leak
@cjmadcatz7492
@cjmadcatz7492 5 жыл бұрын
Your exaust may not be escaping fast enough, get a performance exaust and or port the cylinder and make the exaust port a little more open
@djmanny9082
@djmanny9082 5 жыл бұрын
I changed the spark plug, carburetor, made a magnet key that hold the magnet and I thought that would solved the problem because it was damage and the magnet kept turning around the bolt at least that's the theory, after all that still no spark, if someone can give me more ideas I would appreciated very much. by the way my kill switch has always been disconnected.
@atmosrepair
@atmosrepair 3 жыл бұрын
Try to look at night time, and with plug out but connected, push the bike fast as you can. At low rpms there is very weak spark with these designs
@tjdukes7452
@tjdukes7452 10 жыл бұрын
Wat spark plugs r everyone using when the factory one is done ...plz help...i need to ride....my engine is the 66cc skyhawk thanx all
@jaygarren1
@jaygarren1 9 жыл бұрын
sorry for a late response. You probably have a new spark plug by now, but I am using a E3.32 spark plug. I like it because it has three prongs for better spark. You can also use a NGK B6HS plug as well.
@tjdukes7452
@tjdukes7452 9 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much
@tjdukes7452
@tjdukes7452 9 жыл бұрын
Can u please tell me what i should gap the plug at on the ngk b6hs .....i know this is far from when i originally asked about the plugs but i was able to find sum of those kit ones really cheap online so i just finally got the ngk b6hs plugs. ..thanks
@jaygarren1
@jaygarren1 9 жыл бұрын
Tj Dukes The gap on the spark plug should be .6mm-.7mm
@tjdukes7452
@tjdukes7452 9 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@Fltinin
@Fltinin 8 ай бұрын
I don’t see it att all the key hole thingy
@jacobjudah7362
@jacobjudah7362 2 жыл бұрын
The magnetos I've purchased , all had the G wire soldered to the coil , hmmm
@davidabsolu219
@davidabsolu219 6 жыл бұрын
Does the white wire still rub engine performance if it isn't connect to anything but still remains there?
@jasongarren5773
@jasongarren5773 6 жыл бұрын
no. you can leave the white wire on an just not use it. Only thing I would do it put electrical tape on the end of the wire so it doesn't get wet. You won't lose any power for leaving the white wire on and not using it.
@communistk9888
@communistk9888 6 жыл бұрын
so one can just use a switch to run lights when needed and enjoy performance when it's sunny out
@savasf1860
@savasf1860 8 жыл бұрын
Hey i only got 2 cords coming out the engine and its blue and black
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 7 жыл бұрын
you're good. the white wire for a 6v accessory is not needed
@bradwinger8199
@bradwinger8199 7 жыл бұрын
When I did this to my bike 2 years ago it turned a piece of shit, into instant start god, that and a new spark plug and plug boot.
@friscobikelife2109
@friscobikelife2109 6 жыл бұрын
My black wire is sauderd on to the magneto .no loop part
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
Contact our customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479. We'd be happy to help you troubleshoot any problems.
@jsugar72
@jsugar72 9 жыл бұрын
how do you achieve a good ground when the engine case is aluminum where the magneto is fitted - not sure i understand your logic. trying to create a better ground between non conductive aluminum and the magneto really makes no sense unless I'm missing something.. the coating is an insulation..
@adasosi
@adasosi 9 жыл бұрын
Aluminum is a very good conductor for electricity. Its used in some wiring in houses and electrical components
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 6 жыл бұрын
I connected a ground wire into the ground wires for the coil from the magneto and bolted it onto the frame at a bottle mount hole.(I have rubber mounts under the engine and knew this will insulate it.)Basically your clutch cable acts as your only ground to the bike frame otherwise.The paint on your frame ,at the motor mounts,would have to be sanded off otherwise.Maybe.?..Food for thoughts.
@jeremiahdssdentmorgan3341
@jeremiahdssdentmorgan3341 3 жыл бұрын
LoL,,, aluminium is a VERY good conductor of electricity !!! You will make a pop can vaporize by just touching an arc welding rod to the can while it's sitting on the grounded work table 😂😆🙂
@brucetseng170
@brucetseng170 6 жыл бұрын
How many magneto need replace? During a engine life
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
The basic construction of a magneto is a magnet and a coil. The simple design makes it dependable and long lasting, as long as it is properly installed and not abused. All magnets gradually lose their magnetic charge, but most will have a similar life span as the engine, if not longer.
@brucetseng170
@brucetseng170 6 жыл бұрын
BikeBerrycom thanks for the reply, also have another question, My magneto and my cdi is all in low value, my cdi is in 500 something, normally is600 to 800 is normal, my magneto is only have 317something is low 327-345, also my engine doesn’t fire, but my engine is new, is any solution I can do for those thing to charge, or I only can replace?
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
If you like to fix things yourself, there are numerous DIY solutions to recharging the magnet. The general principal to charging a magnet is by using an electromagnet, or a any other type of strong magnet available, to realign and increase the magnetic polarities. If the part is still under warranty we will gladly replace it. Contact or customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479 or visit our website, we will be glad to help you however we can.
@brucetseng170
@brucetseng170 6 жыл бұрын
BikeBerrycom what happen if both cdi and magneto all in low volume the engine won’t start directly,so low volume is hard to getting the spark to work?
@bikeberry
@bikeberry 6 жыл бұрын
Please contact our customer service representatives at 1-800-317-0479 or visit our website, we will be glad to help you however we can.
@charlesyates6687
@charlesyates6687 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck's motorized bicycle repairs Tampa florida
@titolopez5154
@titolopez5154 7 жыл бұрын
thanks. I found the problem.
@integrationofmanandmachine4714
@integrationofmanandmachine4714 4 жыл бұрын
No you guys don't understand
@jeffthomas2133
@jeffthomas2133 10 жыл бұрын
So I can hook up led lights to the white wire is what iam understanding
@bikeberrycom6539
@bikeberrycom6539 10 жыл бұрын
Correct. 6v LED light.
@jayvlog9841
@jayvlog9841 2 жыл бұрын
May my neto is not working
@lachlanbruce5566
@lachlanbruce5566 3 жыл бұрын
The varnish is there for a reason 🤦‍♂️ some upgrade there 🤦‍♂️
@sergesmith2863
@sergesmith2863 8 жыл бұрын
You fail to tell people on space setting between the magneto and magneto magnet. This is very important that this is as equal on the top of the mag as it is to the bottom.. If you fail to do this step you will have week spark or no spark at all!
@digitaleleganceprod
@digitaleleganceprod 7 жыл бұрын
Serge Smith how do you adjust the gap?
@diesel_delph9764
@diesel_delph9764 6 жыл бұрын
Serge Smith how do you adjust the Gap that was like the most important part😧
@countryguywithcamera
@countryguywithcamera 6 жыл бұрын
Serge Smith the 4 screws automatically space the coil
@arielraya5979
@arielraya5979 4 жыл бұрын
I have a fire dragon
@ericmcginnis9413
@ericmcginnis9413 3 жыл бұрын
Should really saved up all of those bolts! Then again that's just me!
@curteval3148
@curteval3148 9 жыл бұрын
non conductive aluminum ? get you a aluminum rod and poke it in your house braker box than say,,, non conductive ,how can metal be non conductive, magic ?
@michaelwalker2345
@michaelwalker2345 9 жыл бұрын
I would if that rod was coated in : varnish,paint,or excessive dirt
@curteval3148
@curteval3148 9 жыл бұрын
aluminum does'nt rust and its not painted inside the engine comp. by magnito he said none conducting aluminum
@hutfrd
@hutfrd 7 жыл бұрын
curt eval actually aluminum ~DOES~ rust, though it takes a loooong time for it to happen. Oxygen is a pain in the ass to most metals. Google: aluminum oxide, enjoy!
@towboatjeff
@towboatjeff 3 жыл бұрын
@@hutfrd aluminum oxidizes, not rust. You need steel to get rust.
@scuba602
@scuba602 3 жыл бұрын
@@towboatjeff did you even read my comment, especially the last sentence. PS- iron oxide=rust. aluminum oxide - rusty aluminum. Steel is rust-resistant asnd is man-made, but iron isn't. you need the two ELEMENTS iron and oxygen to interact with each other rendering oxide(pertains to any metal that oxygen corrupts .)
@TheLouisamite
@TheLouisamite 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very misleading video, ,it doesn't show a very important part when installing the coil mag. There must be a small gap between the magnetic and the coil ,if not the engine will not run right an may not fire at all and also cause severe damage to both parts,,and sanding is not important either, ,,if you tighten the four screws down tight you will have great contact, so again very misleading video
@davidmcmillen9938
@davidmcmillen9938 3 жыл бұрын
Unnessary waste of time both watching the video and performing
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