Story 1: UPDATE 9:22 Update. Caught my wife cheating. What about her kids. Story 2: 15:53 1stUPDATE 18:42 2ndUPDATE 21:22 [UPDATE] Would it be wrong to ask if my wife is cheating?

My ex fiancé told me “I didn’t want to hurt you, that’s why I didn’t tell you I was having affairs” hoo boy did I tear apart that argument and her in the process (verbally only)

I have said this since i was in high school!!! Never ever ever date someone who still hangs out with an ex! It is almost a sure fire way to be cheated on!!!

I'm glad the cheating ex was smart enough to let the boys see OP whenever they want cuz I can guarantee they'd go NC with her in a heartbeat if she tried to keep them from him.

The first story is why the stereotype against single mothers exist. She was 38, 2 kids and still acted like the irresponsible idiot with bad judgment that turned her into a single mother in the first place, it's like she never got past adolescence. Throwing out a good environment for her kids for the same idiot that left her and her kids alone. Not all of them act like this, some learn their lessons. But a man needs to be a brave or fool, or both, to risk his time, heart and money to find out.

It's crazy that he may have to pay support for her kids but their father doesn't...🤷🏾‍♂️

I can understand the FIL stance. That's his daughter. He hopes he raised her better than to cheat on her husband

First story..... What a great guy. Only cares about the kids that aren’t his biologically. He’s doing the right thing finishing with her. But he’s obviously emotionally tied to those kids! Sounds like the type of person who will use them to hurt him though. But in the end she will regret loosing such a great guy. Guaranteed!

Am I the only one who loves when they go scorched earth 🌍 man

Imagine letting an ex get involved with your partner and then ALLOW the ex to come to your house when you are not in.

You can't feel remorse for cheating when it's been going on for 2 years

I'm starting to like the commenters. Some are extremely smart and care about your situation. Give great advice. Of course, some just want to see the world burn and talk ugly. They don't care. It's free voices in your head! But, real people behind and if you listen, most are good.

1. Good advice. Do not give her a cent instead open a college fund for the boys and tell them that's what you are doing so the mother won't have an opportunity to gaslight him. But make every effort to get the boys. The loser tried to sell them. Just wow.

That's 2nd story, that wife is married to the guy for just meal ticket n place to live. She banging ex for years. Damn. 1st story, why same repeated story, heard this story few week ago.

Everything about the ex-wife is fishy. I think OP was her mark from day 1. They just always "happen" to be at the same place at the same time? She just happens to stare longingly at a man old enough to be her dad, but who has fuck you money? And she just "happens" to be getting her car fixed at the exact same place and the exact same time as OP? There are coincidences and then there are "coincidences", and this seems like the latter.

First one you are a lovely man that cares for the boys you deserve better sounds like they love you also Poor kids all the best Yvonne uk

Damn that first story sucks. OP is a great guy.

This is why finding love is so hard. Cheaters are only remorseful when they get caught not because they cheat.

I loved how that one man decided to support the two boys even though they were not his biological sons. What a heart!

wild to me how old some of these women can be and never leave that "I want a bad boy" mentality.

That last story. That marriage was a shame. She didn’t love him.

You sent her dad the BJ video?! You dropped this--------->👑

the last story is just insane to me. 2 people in there thirties, who have been married for 1.5 years and haven’t had sex that entire time ?! how could OP possibly think nothing was wrong?

1st story: Glad OP had a prenup. The Mom and 'dad' sounds like scammers. That 'child support' money would mostly turn into 'weed support' About the Alpha Male dad, you know what I think? I think the ex-Wife lied to her dad 2nd story: sounds like she was just a gold digger. At least OP didn't have kids with this excuse of a woman. "she still unclear why she had an affair" , easy, she is like every other cheater, she is an egoistic person. Hope she has fun with her college, or whatever crush

The kids are old enough to decide if they want to keep contact. My (ex) stepdad and I had visitation for years after the split up until I moved in with him in High School. (Prob from 11/12 until 15 move-in)

Any situation where there's no sex for a month is always, always grounds to leave the relationship ASAP. The chances of being hurt, scammed, used, and everything falling apart is too high. Cut loose and don't look back. It always boggles my mind whenever I hear someone feigning love for someone while denying them sex. Why is everything about cheating? You never need to definitely know if someone is cheating or not to make the proper decisions.

Unpopular opinion but I don't know if I would have continued contact with ex wife's children. He's got his own daughters and he's not going to be single forever. That just creates more drama for the future significant others. Once fake people like ex show their true colors, it's best to not let them have any foot in the door.

"Looking outside the marriage to have her needs met" by the time this bs construction enters the spouses head the cheater had already been having sex with someone else... They become distant because they are already cheating not becoming distant cheat...

20:54 "Unconsummated marriage is grounds for an annulment" That depends entirely on the jurisdiction.

The first story sounds like a good plot from a hollywood film. He is a good guy. Women treats good guys d worst

It's gonna be pretty sad when her kids realize that the parents who care most for them aren't even related and knew them the least. The oldest probably knows this already. Geez, reminds me of some of my own family life.

The second story guy is an incredibly hapless wimp.

My God these channels make me not want to trust a woman again. I would say the same thing about men if I was interested in men. Humanity is a horrible creature aren’t we?

I understand that the courts look at it like the support is for the kids, and I agree 100%. But not when you have a deadbeat blowing off (forgive the pun, lol) his responsibilities and saddling someone else with their child support! The system is so broken. And while we're at it, if there's proof of infidelity I don't think the cheater should be able to clean out the one they cheated on. Some people have no soul, and the courts seem to be in their corner in these situations. It's disgusting the way people can get by with eviscerating someone and then think they're justified in pouring salt in the wound on the way out the door.

Dude in second story must be unattractive & desperate. Woman used him for financial reasons. Some guys are ok with that and have to put up with tasting their wife’s lover when they kiss.

I'm really going to miss your paycheck, I mean you.

get another lawyer .child support for kids that aren't yours??

What gall to waltz into someone elses home and take whatever they want and cheat and act so disgustingly. Though the wife was no help or better. Pah.

I went thru the same thing my ex told me I was to nice and she grew out of it but her ex had been released from jail, well it was hard at times yes I cried and yes felt lonely and yes I had a real hard time dealing with it, but it was those struggles is what made me a better person, so sometimes the biggest struggles in your life are the struggles that are meant to make you a better stronger person!!! This dude will be just fine!!!

People need to just admit that have cheating fetish

A might bit confused. In the first story he said the wife is on reddit and read his post and said the comments savaged her. Did she read that before or after their meeting? Not that I would encourage her to lie but she would have known he didn't have any evidence of her cheating before that moment. Unless she was emotional and dumb and didn't think about it.

Annulled marriage, Some states like mine allow the marriage to be annulled up to 5 years after the start of the marriage if the bride or groom intentionally broke the wedding vowes or was married under false pretenses. so you may want to check in your own state what the maximum time is.

At first I thought "dusting the TV" was a euphemism

NEVER be a simp stepdad. Never date a damaged woman with a crappy family.

Life advice for these kids: *NEVER* *DATE* *A* *SINGLE* *MOTHER*

In the second story, OP's wife needed a beta provider at home and a string of guys to lay with.

1st Story: How do men not notice the wife who was 14 when his eldest was born and was born when he was 14 isn't looking for a lover, just a stable roof over the kids' heads? He wants to give her support to fuel the drug habit with the father while the kids learn mommy is a disgusting person. Funny how the wife's father wanted to get OP to go sit with the wife to mess with the kids' heads and pretend they could trying to keep him on the hook for the kids and wife to not be on her parents' dime. And he thinks the wife won't manipulate the boys to get things from him since she was using them to help cover her affair with her ex-con child trafficker. They both saw the boys as tickets to money. 2nd Story: Who cares if she ends up single and no sex buddy? She cheated so she doesn't need to be in a relationship. And a relationship completely spent in therapy and religious meetings to salvage it shows issues all along. He must spend a lot of time on denial with "her libido was fine, she just didn't want it with me. Not getting laid was our only problem." That was a clear marker it wasn't fine. The number of people who think bigger commitments will fix already bad relationships is staggering.

22:00 "Prayer" Well there's your problem right there, all the Christian's I know are so hard for the idea of "chosen ones" and "love at first sight" that they ignore every red flag they see in pursuit of sacred marriage. Not having sex for more than a week is strange even for low libido couples, at that point you're just roomates masturbating in different rooms. Imo, Christian's paint the world as so holy and pure that they get blindsided by reality constantly and viciously. Hope this doesn't damage your faith in your big man, faith is a great thing to have if it's true, but don't let it blind you to human nature and red flags that glow in the dark.

Story 2: OP should leave her. How awful of the STBXW to drag her sister through the mud! Hope OP finds someone that can love and appreciate him! Story 1: Glad OP got to keep contact with his boys!!!

if you see a single mom you run in the opposite direction and never look back

I will never understand raising another child that turns out isn't biologically related to me. Partially because for one thing, I will never have kids. But 20+ years of watching the kid grow, and only to be lied to in the end? That's messed up. On top of all that, if the father (non-biologically) finds out, and then still decides to remain the father of the children, that would basically excuse the infidelity the cheating wife committed, years ago. Because, even though they are divorced, the cheating wife will still be in the scorned husbands life, because of visitation and court hearings.

Ultimately, . .the second guessing that the victim experiencing is because the projected their hopes, dreams and emotions on their partner. When cheated on or rejected they feel the fault lies in them. "Maybe if I did this, . . .maybe is I had just, . . ."on and on. What they forget is no matter how much love, . . caring, . . devotion you give to another you will never truly know them like you know yourself as we are all individuals. That is the Wild Card in any relationship. Respect and true friendship are the solid foundation that any successful relationship is built on. Passion comes and goes, . . . .

Nobody: Moms: *deciding to be a stay at home mom because it's easier even though having a job would make you able to afford a nanny plus leftover cash for events, birthdays and holidays.* My mom was a mom and a provider along with my dad, if you have a profession that you're good at keep doing it, if your gender was reversed you'd be called a deadbeat dad to put it into perspective, because stay at home dads are referred to as such.

the last time I heard a story about a bride who never had physical relationship with her husband from the wedding on, she pushed him off a cliff

In what world is a year and a half with out sex a “good” marriage

I would also have paid an absurd amount of money to see the dads reaction

Is it wrong to ask my wife if she is cheating? It's wrong if you expect her to tell you the truth...

This is exactly why you don’t mess with single mothers, they come with so much extra baggage it’s literally not worth it

I got confused on d alpha dog part. I thought they really had a dog.

There is no marriage without sex: "And the two shall become one" - That means a physical connection/sex!

Never date a single mother.

I can't blame the FIL. The one rule of dealing with other people's divorces is that when there is any doubt, you take the side of the blood relative.

No one commenting on FIL from first story? He actually sounds like a really decent dude. He didn’t approve of his daughter marrying an older man, probably specifically because he was certain. By every metric. He’d cheat on her. Only for the opposite to happen. At which point. He freakin’ apologies to him and while still supporting his daughter doesn’t defend her or belittle his actions. I’m willing to bet he lost a lot of respect for his daughter after that incident and is likely going to build a decent reasonable with his grandsons dad (yeah. He’s their dad. Bloods irrelevant at that point. He’s decided he is. They’ve decided he is. End of discussion)

The camera section of the first story is so clunky but GOOD ON OP! Dont take this lying down!

Damn listing to frist one before update hurt the soul.

Am I the only one who finds it a little weird that OP keeps referring to the FIL as “Alpha”? Also... like, this situation is honestly a bit weird to begin with ngl. Sounds kinda sus, but not sure? Either way ESH except OP, but again, this almost sounds like fiction.

what a good man

I would’ve blew the FIL’s phone up nonstop after sending the video

Pump and dump my king's. No relationships, no marriage.

Im addicted to this stories

I'm slowly having this trust issues that if I get into any relationship i will be cheated or something like this might happen to me... I just cannot build up that trust for women

Who doesn't have intimacy since they got married for 1 1/2 years? I think there's a lot more to this. After a week or so, I'd be out

She said “They savaged me” I knew the soundEd unedumedicated

No marriage. No cohabitation.

Cheaters don't cry because they hurt their spouse, they cry because they got caught. The major attraction to cheating is the excitement and thrill of cheating. Once a cheater is set free from their marriage they eventually lose the attraction they had with the person they cheated with and break up. Never ever take a cheater back. If you do they will view it as a weakness on your part, won't have any respect for you and will eventually cheat again.

So she threw away a relationship with a guy who was really great and someone her kids looked up to. Some people are pure toxic.

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What is labeled coffee at most service centers should be considered a war crime.

And this gents, is why the past matters....

"Right now I just don't see it" No body has magic wand who can magically make your life easier shhh, only time can do that...🙄

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Not in my direct family. But my Uncle's wife once cheated on him. After all their drama was dealt with (I feel I have no place to add details as I wasn't involved), my cousin his older sister, and younger brother completely disconnected from their mum. The only kid she had left was her youngest but she was only 6yrs at the time so she couldn't really understand what was up. During that time, my cousins would come over ALL OF THE TIME. They're family came over often but I mean they practically LIVED at our house, so I got a bit suspicious. One day the curiousity got the better of me. I was 15, my cousin 17 at the time. I asked: "did your house get a bug infection or flooding or something?" Cause at that time I assumed they were with us because their house was being repaired. My cousin, my best friend, practically my brother. Looked at me laughed and said: "Nah I just don't like my mum." At the time I thought it was just some dumb argument between child and parent. I mean I had those same scenarios with my mum and dad too. However, It wasn't until a year later that I finally understood what was going on, and that my cousin, for the sake of his father's legal affairs didn't disclose the entire story. That sh*t took me out. Again it wasn't my direct family, but this woman was one I always called "auntie" one who'd always have the best meals and the "fun" parent. Learning she had destroyed my uncle like that brought a rage and sadness so massive I didn't know how to deal with it at 16 years of age ... I'd never seen my uncle cry. He'd always been the cool guy on his Harley, always bringing us the awesome gifts that my mum declared too "adult." And yet I saw this man, one of my heroes alongside my father, completely break down and cry on my father's shoulder before my father told me to leave. I'll never let someone do that to me. That day I learned. It's been about 9 years, I'm 25 going on 26 now and it's still a situation I think of. When I saw my uncle, a great man break down like that, I wanted to end the person who'd done it to him. He's since found an amazing woman who treats him like a king the same way he treats her as a queen. My cousin's have rekindled the relationship with their mum but it's strenous, theyre much closer and often stay at my uncle's for holidays. Idk how his ex is doing, but I'd assume not well. She's married again but divorced sometime in 2019. And I know she's not all too well because she constantly calls my cousin and his siblings weekly yet they don't really respond as well as they used to unless my uncle makes them. My "auntie" completely destroyed her mairiage and life. And affected not only her and my uncle's lives, but the lives of my cousins and family as a whole. A few years ago my cousin his sisters (2 of age, 1 not) my sister, brother and I got drunk one night and he started disclosing how he felt, the others chimed in too as soon as he started, except for the youngest (for lack of knowing). They expressed how hard, awkward and weird it was having to love their mother knowing that she destroyed their father. But how they did it for the love of their father (my uncle). The girls have a better relationship with her, but her eldest and only son is lost to her. The others didn't, but he said: "I don't think I'll ever forgive her, she ruined the other half of my family ..." After all of that, marriage has ways had a bad taste in both our mouths. Him moreso than me, understandably.

Its always so mindblowing to me. I love reading these stories because its so fascinating. How can you ever come to the conclusion that youre gonna throw away your marriage/long term relationship etc. For a worthless ex. And in this case even more, the guy loves the "wifes" kids and they love him. Thats literally the best thing that can happen. Even if she had problems, just for the sake of their children she should have tried everything in her power to make them have a full childhood without all the trashy drama. There is never an excuse for cheating, but this clearly shows an absolute disregard for her kids aswell as her husband. Laughable. I know you can never take these stories as gospel but since there are so many I assume a lot of them are true. Especially the ones that dont sound overly intentionally demeaning or insulting to the soon to be ex.

When her boys are old enough to work out what happened and why the divorce she is gonna come crashing down off that pedestal she put herself on. Poor little boys.

If a court forces you to pay child support for the ex wife kids then they better let you see them too

Fun fact: I cried

MEN; stop letting society and women force you into long committed relationships. Just because you’re having a good time with that person and getting regular mediocre sex doesn’t mean you should give that person your all.

Second story she was not sexually attracted to you you were just a meal ticket

Married 1.5 years with no sex since the marriage. This just shows me how much of a crisis there is for men today. That a man would accept this and think everything is ok is just unfathomable. Society needs to do better by men.

Damn the dad from the 1st story is a GOOD man. She back the wrong horse on this one.

1st story: when this story first started off and he said that he kept running into her she kept popping up places that he was at I already knew that this wasn't a coincidence. She was more than likely stalking this man and he just fell into her trap and didn't even know it. Maybe once maybe twice a chance encounter that was too many for it to be considered just out of the blue.

Story 2: 'We haven't had $ex since we've been married...'? You don't think that's a red flag?

OMG. That comment about being remorseful after you're caught isn't special, that's every inmate in prison at every sentencing. That was clever AF. I wonder if that commenter came up with that or if it's something that's been around.

story #2 actually, any story with a cheating spouse is unbelievable. To F*&k in MY BED?! WHAT IN THE

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I've been accused of grape with a silent G. It's been nearly four years and police investigation has gone nowhere because I didn't do it. Trust issues? We're in the same boat, my friend.

I hope you have any funds you give your boys strictly controls/secured so their bio parents can’t get their hands on it.

Are you sure she wasn’t stalking you to trap you into marriage? I’d look into putting any money you give for the boys into a trust so she & bio dad can’t touch it. It’s a shame you don’t have a recording of bio dad trying to sell his children because he’d end up in jail again. I hope the boys are able to emancipate soon & live with you.

There's a flaw in the first story. So, she doesnt know how long the camera has been up, but she read that reddit post (the one which specifies a camera being recently set up)? Interesting story, but made up.