Upgrading Espresso Gaggia to Classic Specification

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Espresso Resto Melbourne

Espresso Resto Melbourne

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we look at the opportunity to upgrade a Plastic Fantasic Espresso Gaggia to the equivalent spec as a Gaggia Classic. The Espresso Gaggia in stock form is a basic espresso machine but it has some upsides, decent size boiler on a brass group with a brass portafilter. As it was a lower cost machine ex-factory it lacks a 3 way solenoid valve on the group. With this in mind, and a spare Gaggia Classic group and solenoid in the workshop, I set about upgrading this plastic Gaggia to make it truly FRANTASTIC ;) I hope you enjoy the video. Please remember to like and subscribe. Got any questions, then drop me a note in the comments.

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@jundiesman
@jundiesman 2 жыл бұрын
Cute machine! Love my Gaggia Classic Pro. Running strong. 🏃‍♂️
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Let me know when you are ready to upgrade/modify. Happy to help. Keep Caffeinated 😉
@MarkMphonoman
@MarkMphonoman Жыл бұрын
Beautiful machine. 👍
@axlpam
@axlpam 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@AlanMedina314
@AlanMedina314 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool tutorial thank you for sharing it. Will keep me eyes open for a espresso gaggia to perform this mod on. PS I love the retrolook of this gaggia.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
One for sale in Melbourne Australia now. Where are you?
@AlanMedina314
@AlanMedina314 2 жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 In California, thanks for the reply to my comment.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlanMedina314 good luck with the hunt. If you are lucky you'll find one in a charity shop for $20 bucks.
@AlanMedina314
@AlanMedina314 2 жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 Thanks, I try to look every week at my local shops just in case. Your collection of vintage machines is a joy to watch in action. Thanks for sharing.
@Coffeeology
@Coffeeology 2 жыл бұрын
I was JUST thinking about doing the same with an old Gaggia Espresso machine.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
If you need any help let me know
@fips44
@fips44 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the great video. I have a Gaggia Espresso (#101221 04/12/98) and until this video I was looking in vain for any information on the machine ... Looks like I have a slightly different model and have a question about it as I would like to set it up and possibly modify it (without prior Gaggia knowledge): - I already have the 3 way controlled pumped pressure in the same place. Screw and opening to the container at the bottom instead of the hose. Can I adjust the pressure at the lower screw? Does the nut and spring above the screen have any influence here? - The pressure relief valve(?) with hose is on top of the component for the milk foamer. The button for activation is separate on the front. - so the only thing I'm "missing" is the solenoid valve - what would be the advantages of retrofitting it? Unfortunately, I can't find any spare parts explicitly for this machine - which machine can I select in the spare parts search/is most similar?
@matthewsevilla253
@matthewsevilla253 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I have one of these as well, do you have a link to the steam wand you used to upgrade with? All the ones I've tried didn't quite fit. Super cool video! I'm loving the look of mine
@oithetresen609
@oithetresen609 4 ай бұрын
I'm currently doing the same on my gaggia coffee, because I thought it was a gaggia classic when I bought it. I know. Rookie mistake, but you've got to do the best of it. I've already sunk another hundred bucks into it for the grouphead and the solenoid valve. I'm also going to upgrade the steam wand, which is another 30 bugs and am going to turn it into a gagguino. I'm also thinking of removing the water funnel and water tank and getting a little hose that I can put into a water bottle, because that just seems way easier to clean. I don't shy away from the huge amount of work that would take, but it would annoy the shit out of me, if I had to remove the waste tube, before being able to remove the water tank. I'm just weird that way.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 4 ай бұрын
Got to love a project! Keep it up!
@AS-wk9fp
@AS-wk9fp Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! Just discovered an old gaggia espresso from 96 in my parents basement and now trying to get it to work. It sort of works, but the screen where the water flows through is blocked by lime. When I turn on the steamer (after flushing the system with the delimer, it smells a bit „old“). Do you maybe have some pointers I could follow? Cheers
@ThePhilbox
@ThePhilbox 3 ай бұрын
I have one of these machines and I'm planning on doing a similar upgrade in preparation for the Gaggiuino mod :) Im curious how you managed the OPV here? I have a similar looking T-fitting coming off the pump, and a parts diagram for the espresso calls this an OPV, but I'm not sure how to adjust it? Also, thanks for the vid!
@CareyBarnett
@CareyBarnett 2 жыл бұрын
I found this video because I’ve been looking for a ‘cheap’/used Gaggia Classic, I guess. Really nice video, and a very interesting channel. I would like to hear from you about which machines, or which kinds of machines I might look to find for cheap, and then upgrade, or restore for fun, and profit. Thoughts?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Carey, it depends a bit on the market. Gaggia Classics seem to very hot right now in Australia. The Rancilio Silvia is still popular but seems to have cooled a little in comparison. Anything solid and Italian seems to be fixable and sells. Good luck. James
@aaroncoulter6599
@aaroncoulter6599 2 жыл бұрын
Love this restoration! I love the idea of mixing up parts to make older machines work better instead of throwing them out to buy something new. I am currently doing the same thing with my favorite old Gaggia Coffee which internally is similar to Gaggia Espresso (no OPV or solenoid). I have added the OPV and solenoid on the Classic group easily enough. I just can't figure out the wiring like you have. I don't understand what you mean by "wiring the solenoid in parellel with the pump" Would you mind explaining that a bit better? Also would if work if I have added a dimmer mod? Thanks so much, any help is super appreciated, you seem to be the only one on the internet that has done this cool project!
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
My parallel, I mean that I ran a neutral wire from pump to neutral on solenoid and the same with active. If you understand circuit diagrams you could looks at the Gaggia Classic diagram as replicate that. The idea is that when the pump is on it will mean solenoid is on and open. If you put a dimner on with this wiring your only issue might be whether there is enough current to keep solenoid open when pump is being dimmed. To be honest the wiring is my weakest skill set.
@aaroncoulter6599
@aaroncoulter6599 2 жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 Thanks for the quick answer. I will be able to figure things out with that. Love it!
@antherg1
@antherg1 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you for the video. I have a Gaggia espresso. Did you replace boiler and group head from the Gaggia Classic?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
I kept the original Gaggia Espresso boiler but mated it to a Gaggia Classic group. Find yourself a Gaggia Classic or Baby parts machine to salvage the group and solenoid from. Good luck.
@MatthewLMansell
@MatthewLMansell 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there - I recently was given a non-functioning Gaggia Coffee (pump runs but no water comes out). I was told it wasn't worth fixing but your video has inspired me. Where does the Gaggia Coffee fit in to the range? Looks to be the same vintage as your machine. I can't find any info on it online. I looked at the inside and it appears to have the 3-way and OPV but I may be mistaken. Thanks
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Is it the white coffee Gaggia that looks like the classic and has the 3 button panel like the classic too? If it is that era then it has a 3 way solenoid and that might be the reason for no flow through group. Please send photo.
@scoobtoober2975
@scoobtoober2975 11 ай бұрын
I have the retro model. But it has 3 buttons and looks like the same case. Does that mean it has a 3 way. We acquired one that doesn't flow water out the group, much or none at all. Previous owner didn't use it in the past 10 years. I plan to descale but if the group doesn't flow, i bet this wont help much? Thanks for the upgrade info, i'll tear mine down and see if it has it. Cheers Love me some coffee coffee coffee. I just roasted some timor leste organic. Espresso of this coffee is the best I've had in a while. I use a silvia and sette.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 11 ай бұрын
Not sure it came with a 3 way with the three buttons. The 3rd button switches the steam. In the 2 button version, turning the steam knob switches the steam on.
@TheBlackbelair
@TheBlackbelair Жыл бұрын
Nice going on that upgrade! I have a metal case Gaggia Coffee from the '80's. Is this a machine that can use an upgrade as well?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
The Gaggia Coffee is able to have some upgrades depending on the model. I had one, with the round 1500W 240V boiler. It had and adjustable OPV, that I adjusted to 9bar. The steam want was one piece all the way from valve to tip, so not easily changed, so I left it in place. the one issue I found with the Coffee was the group design, which only has one outlet straight onto the shower screen, so the flow across the screen is not as even as in the later Classic.
@TheBlackbelair
@TheBlackbelair Жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 I've always thought that single outlet was rather dubious, it seems to make it into "hot spot" during extraction. I have 3 sizes of filters but I always use the smallest one for my cappuccino-sized cup.
@daveguillen7502
@daveguillen7502 Жыл бұрын
what was the cost?
@franciszelinka5485
@franciszelinka5485 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase the OPV valve? It that also a Gaggia part or is it something aftermarket?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
The OPV was one of the small ones that fit on the top of the pump outlet. They are often found of Gaggia machines, such as Coffee, Carezza etc. Part number WGAEF0062/01/A
@joey3785
@joey3785 2 жыл бұрын
I have a slightly newer espresso model, the valve on my pump looks exactly the same as yours and they even put a hole right under for a hose to come out the bottom it seems. But how do you adjust it for 9 bars? I’m not terribly concerned about the 3 way solenoid, unless that’s the only way I can get my machine to 9 bars.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
You need a pressure gauge on your portafilter. The valve on the pump sometimes needs the to be dremmeled a little at the end so you can further unwind the screw to reduce pressure on the spring. 3 way solenoid has nothing to do with brew pressure.
@joshelliott7178
@joshelliott7178 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase the parts? I have this machine and I’m interested especially in the OPV mod but can’t figure out which one is the right one when looking g at parts online.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily I had some parts from a few old machines I scrapped out. You can get the parts you need from a old Kitchen Aid espresso machine, Gaggia Baby or a Gaggia Classic.
@ahmedelsadek9323
@ahmedelsadek9323 11 ай бұрын
Thanks great video ihave the same model but it has aproblem in the pump but idont no how its looks like some told me its 64wat pump if you had apicture for it i will be so greatfull
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 11 ай бұрын
Are you on 110 or 240v? Just get an Ulka EP5 or EX5
@francescomazzotta1148
@francescomazzotta1148 10 ай бұрын
I have a similar machine and I wanted to know what happens if the brass valve near the pump is around 2 rounds screwed. I couldn't put the original settings because the screw was damaged. Do you know if any similar replacement exist?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 9 ай бұрын
there are a number of options. there are lots of pump mounted safety valves: www.theespressoshop.co.uk/en/au/Ulka-Non-Return-Bypass-Fitting-S2---10621005/m-3533.aspx?PartnerID=22&Australia&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwm66pBhDQARIsALIR2zAiZ1rAOsT8Sd6nErRJ1g5K0eR8iWwPGeO7d8YaG0irdRsM54GB-IoaAlggEALw_wcB
@macksilvestri2297
@macksilvestri2297 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I have a few questions about the parts for you to do the same mod to the same machine. I'm looking at a 3way solenoid now and it's listed at 230v, will this work? I also found a Classic group but the little copper stem doesn't seem to be a part of it. Can I pop the original one on there? At least I ordered the valve so far. Thanks very much!
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Are you in the States? If so you will need a 110V solenoid. Water from pump, the connector will work on the classic group too.
@macksilvestri2297
@macksilvestri2297 2 жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 Who knew finding a 110v one would be this tricky
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Any old North American Gaggia Baby, Kitchen Aid Artisan espresso machine or Gaggia classic used them. If you can find a parts machine of one of these then you should have the part.
@macksilvestri2297
@macksilvestri2297 2 жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 The saga continues! My machine has a clogged up group. I took the whole thing out to do a proper descaling. And it seems there is no solenoid valve in the machine in its original condition. Hoping this is normal but I'm winging it at this point haha.
@macksilvestri2297
@macksilvestri2297 2 жыл бұрын
I fixed it! And now I know how to take it apart to do this mod someday. Thanks so much for all your help.
@edwardhealer8380
@edwardhealer8380 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the OPV valve from?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
It is from another Gaggia, maybe a Coffee or a Carezza. This type of OPV is in a number of machines
@njv1805
@njv1805 5 ай бұрын
There's one of these listed for $100 on my local Marketplace. Is it worth it as is without the tweaks or should I bypass living with it and go straight for the upgrages.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 5 ай бұрын
You can make a perfectly good coffee with the machine as is, with the right beans and a GOOD grinder
@njv1805
@njv1805 5 ай бұрын
@espressorestomelbourne1735 I just got a Baratza Encore ESP which I know is economy in the world of grinders, but compared to what I had...it's AMAZING.
@SallyMcCracker
@SallyMcCracker 3 ай бұрын
Did you buy it? I also see one listed locally for about $100.
@matthewslater3767
@matthewslater3767 6 ай бұрын
Hi, what steam wand is this? I have one with a panarello that I’m looking to upgrade. Any leads?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 6 ай бұрын
This model comes with a single pipe from steam valve to tip. It is a standard wand. If yours is the one that can swivel, then you could add a Rancilio V1 wand
@matthewslater3767
@matthewslater3767 6 ай бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 okay thanks so much! Insane channel by the way. Also, let me know if you ever find another Nuova Simonelli Mia😄
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 6 ай бұрын
@@matthewslater3767 I sold my Mia and regret the sale now😞
@phillipzx3754
@phillipzx3754 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I found a used (1995 build date) Gaggia Espresso. It was in great shape and had all the accessories. I did the same thing to mine and also replaced the boiler. It wasn't in bad shape for its age, but I figured I might as well make everything "new" again. I really like the look of the Gaggia Espresso over the Classic. I recently did the Gaggiuino upgrade to mine.
@theoriginalimanalien
@theoriginalimanalien 2 жыл бұрын
Just snagged one of these on ebay! Looking forward to modding mine in a similar fashion. For the OPV, did you also salvage that from a Classic, or was that just a generic part? edit: Just saw your below reply to someone else recommending part no. WGAEF0062/01/A. Thanks for all your help in the comments here :)
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
I just managed to get the pump mounted OPV adjusted enough to get 9 bar set.
@shamurphy6255
@shamurphy6255 Жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 can you change it to 6 bars? Can you do a video about that or send the link? I’m assuming that you mount it into the pump somehow!
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
@@shamurphy6255 6 bar would be possible with and OPV with a 6 bar spring or an adjustable OPV. There is a pump mount opv that is on the current Gaggia Classic pro and then there is a 6.5bar spring you can get for that. One consideration is the pressure it takes to push down the antidrip valve at the bottom of the group. With a Classic it uses a 3 way solenoid so does not have to overcome the spring pressure in the anti drip valve. I actually have a Espresso Gaggia at the moment. Maybe I could do that and put up a vid. James
@billthompson5093
@billthompson5093 Жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 Please do put a video of installing the adjustable opv in the Espresso Gaggia.
@user-ry1kd8io5v
@user-ry1kd8io5v 2 жыл бұрын
What makes a 3 way better than 1 way?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Flow to group stops completely when you want it to, no more drips. Also you can backflush the group, like commercial machines
@brstone12
@brstone12 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man I just passed up one of these because it didn’t have a 3 way valve. I’ll start looking for another one now
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck, you need to get a cheap. Gaggia Classic or Baby group and a 3 way solenoid. I was luck to have a bunch of donor parts machines.
@VInterPaul
@VInterPaul Жыл бұрын
Great video about a great machine, thank you, but is it not inadvertently a little misleading? You compare the two boilers outside of the machine on your desk but the one purported to be inside the lovely Gaggia Espresso at , say, 2 min 08 seconds is not similar to the one that is actually seen to be fitted in the chassis at 4min 30 seconds. The one inside your Espresso clearly does not have the 4 electrical connectors on top (as featured in the Classic boiler) and also has the steam tap fixture in a different position along with a circular fuse wired on top and two electric connectors down on the side of the boiler. I only point this out as whilst the Classic boiler would indeed fit in this it isn't so straightforward as far as electrics and attachments are concerned.
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
Fair point. I had the boilers put more to describe the 3 way solenoid situation.
@victorgutierrez8423
@victorgutierrez8423 2 жыл бұрын
Can i buy this from you ?
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Victoria, I sold this particular machine a while back. Just a get a Gaggia Classic or Baby. James
@simonmenzies3142
@simonmenzies3142 Жыл бұрын
So annoying that you didn’t show how you did the 9 bar spring mod!!! I want to do this to my cubika
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
It is just a pump mounted OPV. You need to unwind the screw holding the spring to reduce pressure at which the valve opens. Some of them you might need to grind a little off the end the allow you to unwind more. You definitely will need a pressure gauge on your portafilter handle to validate your efforts.
@simonmenzies3142
@simonmenzies3142 Жыл бұрын
@@espressorestomelbourne1735 thank you very much. I know there are absolutly loads of people that go to KZfaq to find the classic 9bar mod. It seems to me that the gaggia classic popularity went through the roof once James Hoffman did his ‘best coffee machine and grinder under £500’ (I think that’s right) video and so choose the classic and adjusted the pressure. I feel sure if you specifically make a mod video for the cubika and show how to do this you should get some good hits. As it would be the first and would make an awesome alternative to the now costly classic👍🏻
@espressorestomelbourne1735
@espressorestomelbourne1735 Жыл бұрын
Get the current gen OPV, and put it on the end if the pump. You will also need some silicone hose for the bleed off, which needs to go back to the tank. You then need to get the springs from Shades of Coffee and follow their instructions about changing OPV spring. www.theespressoshop.co.uk/Mobile/en/Gaggia-Classic-11-Bar-Pump-Safety-Valve---421944028581
@simonmenzies3142
@simonmenzies3142 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m going to look into doing this and adding a pressure gauge to the cubika👍🏻👍🏻
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