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@InsomniacBogart4 ай бұрын
The infestor you dropped at 23:13 actually did survive! You mentioned that you lost your "infestor that I had at the front" 24:35, but it acutally joined your units by heroically tunneling while burrowed all the way :D you can see it entering the frame from the top at 24:17 happily obeying your orders and joining the flock of infestors, haha!
@stefanfrank74264 ай бұрын
Why not do this against the AI instead of against low mmr players? same effect and people can play their ladder games without getting griefed
@Ayrinth4 ай бұрын
@@stefanfrank7426 This is a strategy game. It is also competitive. Consider chess. If you play vs a grandmaster will you complain that you are getting griefed or should you try to take the game, analyze it and see how you can improve. Of course you cannot win, but you can still get better in strategy, execution and overall learn things from a loss. I have been wanting to play vs Uthermal for a while. I would totally get obliterated, but it would at least be in a cool way :)
@true_xander4 ай бұрын
@@stefanfrank7426 dude calm down, it's just a game. Everyone can play it as they wishes as long as they are not hacking or cheating in any ways
@greenlitlleman4 ай бұрын
@@stefanfrank7426 Low MMR? That's Diamond league, lol. They are much stronger than AI and most of them reached Masters in the past and play the game for many years.
@stefanfrank74264 ай бұрын
@@Ayrinth but sc2 isnt chess, if the diamond leaguer goes to analyze the replay he will see that he lost because his opponent played 30.000 games more and as a result is two times as fast with their actions. thats not a factor in chess.
@CircusPyrotekniq4 ай бұрын
ZvZ - Drop 4 infestors in his mineral line, and neural a drone to make it into a spine crawler inside his base ! you could even block his ramp if you made enough spines / buildings
@kyle522454 ай бұрын
I love this! 4 infestor drop, 4 spines in the mineral line!!!!
@Toast_944 ай бұрын
Dang, you beat me to it.
@HuYuuHaiDing4 ай бұрын
love how playing against an opponent that isn't playing meta "bores him to death" lmao
@MarcLucksch4 ай бұрын
11:16 the moment when the Zerg has a higher nexus count than than the protoss
@user-jm2sq4of2p4 ай бұрын
"you mean base count?" "NO, the NEXUS count!"
@screes6204 ай бұрын
Here's an idea for stealing a probe to make a Nexus. Burrow an infester at your opponents third base, wait for the probe to show up and nurl it, then build the nexus at his third. Once you build your own probe from it you can just go back and make another nexus on your side of the map, but you would only need 1 infestor, and you delay their third forever. Also i just wanna see what a protoss does when he goes to his third and see's a nexus that isn't his.
@cyberkekosis3 ай бұрын
having a Protoss opponent on 2 bases whilst you already have an Infestor + neural is extremely unlikely. but denying their 4th or 5th this way is pretty much an option, yeah
@MrUSAFMattАй бұрын
does stealing the probe spend the opponents reasources aswell?
@cyberkekosisАй бұрын
@@MrUSAFMatt it doesn't, the opp just loses this worker
@dimiturraichev14644 ай бұрын
21:52 the shadow of the viking 😳
@Ayrinth4 ай бұрын
That's called foreshadowing :)
@mooreoftom4 ай бұрын
I found this to be VERY entertaining! I've been playing SC since 1998, and I love your creative builds and flowery commentary. Keep it up!!
@isaac_shelton4 ай бұрын
Idea: Late proxy nexus into recall Imagine neuraling a probe, building a late proxy nexus in their base, and then recalling the zerg army into their main. That would have to be a world's first
@trobi4 ай бұрын
This is 2024 version of Destiny's 4-festor hit squad
@LetalisLatrodectus4 ай бұрын
First thing I thought of too, Destiny was ahead of his time Kappa
@therealzizmon17484 ай бұрын
Was looking for this exact comment
@bellofigoitaliano50384 ай бұрын
@@LetalisLatrodectuscan you guys believe Destiny went from a SC2 pro on 2013 to a global L debater on the internet , he’s been around for a while
@gabrielcotebrockman32204 ай бұрын
BAWLERS!
@fenderOCG4 ай бұрын
We got it Kyle, we're winning the war!
@tromedlovdrolmai4 ай бұрын
If you get the probe steal off again, you could always build a mothership and then mass recall some lings and infestors into your opponent's base. or just use it's passive cloaking on a ling army
@trenthansen39504 ай бұрын
if you built a nexus in their base could you recall to it?
@tromedlovdrolmai4 ай бұрын
@@trenthansen3950 if it was still standing, probably
@trenthansen39504 ай бұрын
@@tromedlovdrolmai I guess my idea isn't that great because nydus and dropper lords are probably better
@Talanic4 ай бұрын
Use a mothership to cloak lurkers.
@mehdimarashi17364 ай бұрын
cloak is not passive anymore!
@scottbruce74234 ай бұрын
That moment you dropped the Viking to the ground 😂😂😂 I imagined myself as the terran just watching that play out, hands off the keyboard like "wtf?" 🤣🤣🤣
@ten84683 ай бұрын
You lose vision from neuraled units
@scottbruce74233 ай бұрын
@@ten8468 do you really? I had no idea
@ten84683 ай бұрын
@@scottbruce7423 yeah I use that often to try and neural probes and build a nexus in the corner of their base without them even getting vision on it. If you distract them by attacking at the front at the same time and send the probe back in the middle of their mineral line after, it sometimes works depending on their level and how far ahead you are. You can then bring a chronoboosted probe back to your base using a droperlord.
@kelsonleeisme4 ай бұрын
Fungal disruptor would be wild
@sako22394 ай бұрын
Opponent splits would be in slowmo.
@braind34d134 ай бұрын
23:18 The burrowed infestor will make its way all the way back to base, underground, if you look at the minimap.
@sako22394 ай бұрын
Am surprised it even managed to get back unscathed when it literally run through the entire terran base.
@mbran0314 ай бұрын
Yo Marc, regarding the probe steal, I think the easiest method would be to wall the scouting probe in your main base and go for a quick lair/queens in the natural. Then just neural the probe at your convivence. You'll have to out up with some worker/mineral harass micro for a few minutes if your opponent is feeling cheeky, But I'm confident in your ability to out-micro most players. I'd also suggest going for some light ling harass so your opponent would not feel safe using their recall on the probe.
@inthefade4 ай бұрын
This is so absurd I think there is a way to make it work.
@asdfasdf-mn8iu4 ай бұрын
This will rarely - if ever - work for multiple reasons. You cannot wall your ramp as zerg because there's no creep there, you'd need like 2 hatchs to wall the probe in. Walling your own ramp means no units or workers can leave your main and the opponent knows this, losing per default on any level higher than plat or diamond. The queen in the main will auto-attack the probe whenever she's not moving, you cannot even stop her from attacking without issuing move commands. Lastly, you'd need like 6 minutes or so to finally get neural out AND you will have to put up with the probe potentially attacking workers or even just your hatch or queen and killing them in the process and no amount of micro can prevent that, because you cannot kill the probe in order to stop it. So nice idea, but that won't work.
@heolx4 ай бұрын
This is peak inspiration for how I should control my investor’s in my own games.
@enriquegarciacota39144 ай бұрын
I mean, that Terran was “bored” because he was not winning
@adv2ht4 ай бұрын
even mined some salt with that last one
@benjamineidam4 ай бұрын
Uthermal approaching the impossible challenge? If he can do it kinda conistently he has to be the serral of a own secret category, no? Crazy dude, loving it!
@willstackable74704 ай бұрын
LOVE that we are getting daily SC content again! My lunch break without Uthermal is 😔
@Cantab22444 ай бұрын
Can you neural a probe and load it to your drop enabled overlord? And carry it back to your base and unload it… then neural again to build nexus?
@Zod.the.Merciless4 ай бұрын
I was thinking this exact thing
@SlackerU4 ай бұрын
Funny.
@gregisbad32054 ай бұрын
dropperlords don't seem to be able to pick up probes
@matth97884 ай бұрын
You stole my question! Lol
@magnuslord4 ай бұрын
Nydus?
@Tmarion74 ай бұрын
Honestly The funniest thing would be to just steal a probe, make a nexus nearby, then from there apply pressure with cannons for max memes
@Ayrinth4 ай бұрын
A: What's up, why are you feeling down today? B: I got cannon-rushed by a Zerg on ladder. A: You mean spine crawler rushed? B: Nope...
@miza64 ай бұрын
zerg cannon rush. now that’s content
@illt3ck4 ай бұрын
Got some himalayan pink salt in that second game 🤣
@Nekoyashiki-san14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the fun creativity! ^^
@PeregrineChurch4 ай бұрын
this is my new favorite series 😄
@Chinchillin304 ай бұрын
This video was hilarious. Players are probably flabbergasted 😂
@patrickhuffman96324 ай бұрын
Loving it man.❤
@James-uk4xi4 ай бұрын
Imagine if you found a way to neural the widow mines to fire on his own mineral line that would be so sick
@Braincho4 ай бұрын
Marc, you should be careful with the probe making building. After Parasite is gone the probe will give vision on the buildings and will remain on mini map. The best is to avoid it.
@cthulhu89774 ай бұрын
He knows the probe was giving vision; he mentioned it in the vid :)
@asdfasdf-mn8iu4 ай бұрын
Regarding the strategizing at 13:35 about building CCs and such, you need way fewer infestors than calculated, and you would've needed like half the infestors you needed in that game to transport the probe across if you abused the full 22 range the infestor has with neural (8 to neural, 14 to break neural). A CC building for 71 sec means you need 7 neurals to build it and you can leave it on for full duration because the SCV does not move. Golden did such strats in the past repeatedly; your opponent knows exactly what you are doing though, because they get vision of their SCV each time the neural runs out (neural has a tiny cast time when the neural thingy flies towards the unit and you cannot re-neural while the previous neural still is active).
@sethb30904 ай бұрын
I lost it when you neuraled the viking and just sent it to sit in time out in the corner
@SlackerU4 ай бұрын
The infection-strategy would probably get more views than the Nukes b/c of the meme quality of the idea. 10/10.
@santhinal77674 ай бұрын
The best protoss zerg army is Infestor, Disruptor and Immortal with your choice of Corruptor, Void ray or Tempest in the skies so long as you dont mind heavy micro. With Infestors to lock the enemy in place for either disruptors (ground enemies) or long range tempest shots or the void rays closing in preventing kiting (air enemies) and the immortals to tank for your infestors and disruptors you can take out just about anything.
@CalyxLeMaster4 ай бұрын
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT UTHERMAL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IS DOING WELL! SENDING LOVE
@jz-xq4vx4 ай бұрын
that was freakin' fun as hell! I also had no idea you could make more than one nydus... going to go try it now. Please consider doing a a series with Swarm Hosts. I surprise people a lot with them behind a wall of ranches
@chir0pter4 ай бұрын
0:14 heck yeah!!
@ufftatabummbumm4 ай бұрын
24:25 campaign vibes :D
@joelv44954 ай бұрын
The commentary on the terran infestor strategy overlooked one big detail: Terran buildings can fly. No need to walk the SCV all the way home, just to a hidden corner to build. Then fly the building back to a better spot.
@SCoraccioIV4 ай бұрын
One time when I got take out late at night the cashier said 'Have a Night' and that feels a lot like 'GG in life'
@RehPetr4 ай бұрын
Sooo, did you have a night? This is the real question we should be asking.
@SCoraccioIV4 ай бұрын
I've been having a night for a long time now... @@RehPetr
@TikkaQrow4 ай бұрын
11:00 Style ranking B - Baddass! 'talks about experimenting with protoss/zerg build, proceeds to show no mercy and finishes the game before doing anything' It was like watching someone get an old school MK finisher opening and instead of a cool execution, ya just kicked them.
@hanuman94 ай бұрын
you could try taking a mining spot closer-by before bringing a drone all the way back?
@sk-nc4ew4 ай бұрын
Really cool strat :-) Could it be a viable strat to perma-block opponent upgrades via Overseer contamination while rushing upgrades yourself to win via big tech lead? Or alternatively use perma-contamination on opponent production and rush out cheap units to win via supply lead? Trades wouldn't have to be very good to win if opponent can't produce anything I guess?
@chir0pter4 ай бұрын
20:10 that's actually crazy, new zerg "storm drop" meta!
@alexanderstorm86514 ай бұрын
Love it! 🙂
@Ayrinth4 ай бұрын
Protoss strategy idea: - Mothership BIG BANG - recall a bunch of banelings into the opponent's base - baaam, nothing is there Btw zerling infestor should theoretically also include banelings, I have not seen any so far, maybe they are excluded for now, but I would definitely like to see some of the pesky little kaboooms in this challenge.
@Eldormen3 ай бұрын
in a tournament a long time ago (harte of the swarm I think) there was a parasited command centre that got built in a main stage match. don't remember who did it though but it was really cool.
@s0Wrd4 ай бұрын
How about neuro a prob then load it in a droperlord ? Would the opponent be able to unload as the neuro run out or would you be able to fly all the way to your main ?
@Yumari-Mai4 ай бұрын
When the protoss dies before you can get to your bread and butter ling-infestor-immortal-disruptor-carrier :c
@RCG3.3 ай бұрын
When harstem did the building a CC with zerg, he waiting until they expanded a bit so the walk was not as far then he built out front of his area and flew it back
@aaronwernick35344 ай бұрын
I hope you read this. I know building a CC with a controlled SCV is too much, but maybe you could build a bunker and put Adepts or stalkers in it. Another option is making Medivacs and using them to heal your units. There must be a shorter build building you could do with a controlled SCV, that could work with your build.
@aaronbrucker9664 ай бұрын
You do not have to bring an scv the whole way home to build the command center, you just need to build it somewhere you can defend and then lift and float it home.
@solandri694 ай бұрын
So what cross-race unit interactions work if you neural a probe/SCV to build? - Mothership cloaks zerg units (pretty sure this works) - Worker units can return minerals/gas to off-race base? - Warp prism / medivac can carry zerg units? - Medivac can heal zerg units? - Queen can heal terran bio units? - Terran/Protos units immune to baneling splash? - Sentry guardian shield reduces damage? - Sentry can hallucinate zerg units? - Viper can consume terran/protoss buildings?
@rothenbergt4 ай бұрын
I’d like to see 2v2 where you control both races. Zerg + Terran. Fun combos
@bjrnvalandmunck89214 ай бұрын
Is it possible to build a fast Nexus in youre opponents bace - then recall a big zerg army?
@joemaven34264 ай бұрын
If you have vipers you can yoink the probe to neural
@lodthefraud49934 ай бұрын
It’s really cool finding a channel in Diamond league! I feel like every channel is run by GMs, so it’s a bit refreshing to find someone down here with the common folk. I’m struggling in Diamond league as well, so this is awesome to watch.
@Toast_944 ай бұрын
In a ZvT something you could do is neural a raven and use it to drop a bunch of auto turrets. The turrets remain yours after the neural ends and oppo is left with an empty raven, or you can force attack the raven with the turrets while it's still yours.
@Klee-nl9su4 ай бұрын
that is insane!! I had no idea that If you build something with an infested unit you can control them!!
@bogrisss4 ай бұрын
The probe steal… EPIC! 😂😂😂
@HerrPapa4 ай бұрын
You did that already! Building a CC with a neuraled SCV! I remember a video where you did exactly that!
@RCG3.3 ай бұрын
Are you sure? Harstem did it a year ago is that what you're thinking about?
@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer4 ай бұрын
With an infestor drop, could you neural drones and build spines in their mineral line?
@jaumesinglavalls54864 ай бұрын
There was a match, I think was scarlet agains somebody else, in which she captures his prove, and make a protos army and win the protos with his own tools.
@DeathForSk84 ай бұрын
I remember Catz doing it in a pro tournament, don't remember against who it was
@12321dantheman4 ай бұрын
is everyone referencing that one tweet every time they say "tools"?
@ludovictrottier4254 ай бұрын
Can you use nydus to bring probe to base? If not, maybe overlord can transport it?
@Vajhdeken3 ай бұрын
What about Neuraling a worker and the loading it to a Nydus or a Dropper Lord? Will it work?
@flyselbyhigh4 ай бұрын
What if you neural an SCV right before it finishes building a CC… does it become your CC or does it just stop building?
@Cassie_Lyn3 ай бұрын
If you neural parasite an enemy zerg and make a hatch, wouldnt it be the enemies hatch since you lose control when it dies to make a building?
@stroborobo4 ай бұрын
Can you put a neutraled probe into your dropperlord? Easier transport and less energy used.
@Krack28054 ай бұрын
can u neural a drone and build? what happens to the building? is it yours or theirs? what happens if u cancel? is the drone theirs?
@andrewjones1984 ай бұрын
Ibwould love to see uthermal do something with mass overseers, where he poops on their buildings all game
@ten84683 ай бұрын
I tried this strategy a while back and it took me 10 games to win one. The reason is that overseers are actually very expensive - you just don't realize it when you only build one. But eventually I managed to defend a protoss push and then perma blocked the 2 robos while I was pushing back with roaches and wo immortals he couldn't defend.
@andrewjones1983 ай бұрын
@@ten8468 I feel certain uthermal could make this happen hehe
4 ай бұрын
Examples where it actually worked to neural a SCV and use it to build a command center: LowKo & Winter: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNqVkq6hprq2qpc.htmlsi=Q7cSuhScL8eNJRhB&t=810 Harstem: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d72VZcaVt7TOeHk.htmlsi=5xn7ZUDSoXS2sAWq&t=794 Third example: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrenZ9pqvM28k4U.htmlsi=mVymlE3_zQUiDKC7
@Joe-dq2wb4 ай бұрын
what happens if you steal a probe and put it into an drop overlord? Can you drive it home and then re-neural it at your base?
@KyleItu3 ай бұрын
Is it possible to do a 3 infestor drop, nueral a probe and command the probe to enter the overlord and then fly it back home and build the nexus?
@cosmostumpf41354 ай бұрын
A couple ideas- Can you recall Zerg units to your proxy nexus? Instant mode nydus! Also could heal up your festors with medivacs!
@robbie71504 ай бұрын
You need : (length of the map ÷ range of neural parasite) + (time to build command center ÷ duration of neural parasite) That should give you the amount of infestors needed to steal the terran tech. Idk the raw values but if some other nerd out there does they can plug them in and figure it out
@jimmybobobbingo3 ай бұрын
Can you Neural and then pick them up with a drop?
@Alexander_Sannikov4 ай бұрын
can you put a neuralled probe into a dropalord?
@nicklindberg904 ай бұрын
Let's go boys!
@gregkomajda34813 ай бұрын
Can we put a enemy unit in drop overlord with neural parasite?
@frankpork76654 ай бұрын
Wait… could you neural a probe, pick it up with an overlord, move it to a base location then re-neural there? Or will it not go into or pop out of the overlord once neural wears off?
@jacobolson55824 ай бұрын
You can’t load units effected by neural parasite into a transport, typically you can pull the probe a few times with a viper though.
@sako22394 ай бұрын
@@jacobolson5582Can Marc build at least one Vipers in his zerg challenge like how he can built one ravens on his terran ones?
@Alexander_Sannikov4 ай бұрын
what if you neural your opponent's drones and use them to build spore crawlers? will they be yours or theirs once they finish morphing?
@asdfasdf-mn8iu4 ай бұрын
They will be yours
@AdamGetchell14 ай бұрын
Neural the SCV, make a CC nearby, then fly the CC to wherever.
@JA-in3hw4 ай бұрын
The four fester hit squad returns. You’re at step 1 of the journey to being a political talk streamer.
@JDivinorumVideo4 ай бұрын
What do you if the Terran has turrets and marines surrounding his base?
@TheRealMjb2k4 ай бұрын
22:50 😂😂😂
@SirJohny54 ай бұрын
Go thermal go🎉
@matcha.t_3 ай бұрын
Watching those triple nyduses get planted made me wonder what if nyduses were used as a Zerg "force field" to trap so lings can surround or infestors can fungal easier
@scottb40874 ай бұрын
What would happen if you neural a probe, then load it in a dropper lord?
@Gitalien14 ай бұрын
Just read the title and knew who it was. Thermyyyy ❤
@Altruist_Slava4 ай бұрын
Watching your games forcing me to come back playing sc2
@eyork1534 ай бұрын
So do you think against Tarran if they’re building a building and it’s almost finished and you neural the SCV to finish the building do you think that you would get it and then be able to build from it?
@danieltaylor35704 ай бұрын
No the game determines ownership of the building as it's placed neural on the scv would just make it attack them
@jayyoung75774 ай бұрын
overlord drops infestor --> neuro a probe --> put probe into overlord --> another infestor at home to neuro again to build nexus? Would this work?
@Kirk.television4 ай бұрын
Let's go!
@wschmrdr4 ай бұрын
I know Lowko did a Zerg Tactical Nuke game, so that might help with determining how many neurals you need for the Zerglot.
@RCG3.3 ай бұрын
Or harstem with beating Grandmasters wth stupid stuff. Both good to get some ideas
@cetlnm4 ай бұрын
what if you try to load probe into overloard?
@James-uk4xi4 ай бұрын
I thought I had seen everything, now I have
@kenned89714 ай бұрын
The 4festor hit squat is back
@melonfarmer52904 ай бұрын
When you neural a probe and build a nexus is your 200 supply maxed shared with both races or do you get a fresh set of 200 supply in addition? I imagine they share
@chrisbyrd13494 ай бұрын
In brood war with dark archon it gave you a new supply count, but I don't think that's the case now
@tondekoddar78374 ай бұрын
@@chrisbyrd1349 Yeah, same supply cap. Would be cool to have -recall large hydra army to enemy behind wall -bunkers, just engage with them You can neural and use scans still I think ? Maybe even lift building in wall, eh ? :) Evil smurf-troll eh
@melonfarmer52904 ай бұрын
Yeah when marc talked about getting an enemy drone it would just grant him another hatchery if he morphed into it instead of adding more supply. I'm curious if you can pick up a captured probe in an OL and transport?
@momom61974 ай бұрын
You can't. @@melonfarmer5290
@ThueJanusKristensen4 ай бұрын
@@melonfarmer5290 Captured enemies can't be loaded into transports.
@cosmosorbust4 ай бұрын
Years ago, I saw Flash do this against a Terran. Built a bunch of tanks and pinned him in his base. His opponent accused him of cheating.
@kunzadar4 ай бұрын
Can you send the neuraled probe into a nitus?
@ragnarokfps4 ай бұрын
You should try to make some templars and hit them with fungal+storm, that sounds funny. They'd take so much storm damage because the slow from fungal
@blucheez194 ай бұрын
I wonder, can you recall zerg units to your forward nexus?