Imagine telling Gotham they didn't have the right to use the Joker as a character but greenlighting the Joker in Suicide Squad

From gay brother to the joker to a Jedi this dudes got some range

I like the fact that both twins can be called the joker, for two reason 1. In a deck, there are always 2 jokers 2. “If I’m gonna have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice”

Actually, Joker was very MUCH like Jeremiah's version when he was introduced in the 1940's. He was a cold, calculating gangster with an appearance that belies his cold calculation. He didn't become a force of chaos until the 1970's. Jerome was Modern Joker. Jeremiah was classic Joker.

Jerome: "The Clown," Jeremiah: "The Criminal" almost like they wanted to do the 3 jokers

No denial that Jerome was the character who looped me into the show.

The reason I will always rank Cameron's performance over every other live action iteration is because he wasn't even supposed to be the Joker, he was supposed to be a fakeout but he did so well that the entire audience was like "fuck you, that's the Joker" and then he proceeded to steal the entire show, which, let's be real here, is a very Joker thing to do

I love that cameron went from being the best live action joker to being the face and voice of now one of the most beloved jedi The reverse hamill if you will

Fun fact: in the Netflix subtitles for gotham. Jerome is literally called Joker, in the episode where he torments penguin in arkham

This man acts like the Joker. He looks like the Joker. He talks like the Joker. He drives people mad like the Joker. But never forget, as long as they don't have the rights, his name ain't the Joker.

Jerome's laugh is also something special. It isn't over the top like Hamill's could be, it's subdued, measured. Controlled. Terrifying.

What makes this kid my favorite joker is because he doesn’t just portray his version of joker, he plays the faithful representation of MULTIPLE jokers throughout the franchise.

Clown - Jerome Criminal - Jeremiah Comedian - J

He's the first guy "actually" playing The Joker and they can't even claim him as Joker

Honestly, I think the reason Jeremiah was so hated was mainly because we had to loose Jerome to get him. Instead they should have just let them coexist for a while, both with their personalities and types of plans, maybe sometimes working together or against each other. Then eventually in one episode they could have maybe let them both fall into the acid but only one comes out alive ,who is from then on "J", who is somehow a combination of both and we never know who of the brothers died or who survived.

Damn, even Mark Hamill loved his performance so that says something.

I think Jerome, Jeremiah and J show how versatile Cameron Monaghan acting ability was to play 3 different versions of the joker

There was a point where i was just watching Gotham for Cameron’s performances

I love when Gordon asked Penguin why he was following Jerome, and Penguin explicitly stated that Jerome scared the hell out of him XD. I don't blame him cause the Joker and Jerome were both unpredictable asf. Literally a hair's trigger away from either blowing your brains out or giving you a playful hug. It was like that in the comics and animated series as well. The Penguin never teamed up with The Joker unless he was forced to.

Cameron Monaghan is an underrated actor I love actors that can expand their acting beyond what they are known for

Jerome: anarchist Jeremiah: narcissist

I totally think the fact that he grew up in the age of Mark's Joker is part of why he got it right.

Cameron was great at making Jerome and Jeremiah seem like different people. I had to look it up to even figure out that he was both of them.

This guy is the best Joker! He embodies the character as it’s supposed to be. He should be in the next Batman movie. Just unleash his savagery on Gotham.

Jeremiah felt unnerving to me, kinda creepy, but Jerome felt like that chaotic, anarchic, unpredictable crazy man the joker is.

Jerome. For me, he had the most psychotic facial expressions and the body type. You were right. Near the end of the season, you would sit thru the other characters just to see Jerome. Amazing work, Vee.

This kid was able to capture the spirit of Nicholson's, Ledger's and even a touch of Romero's joker along with a little Hamill and then the comic books and still pulled it off as his own performance. That my friends is what you call an artist

This man didnt just play a joker, He played 3 jokers. all 3 based on other reference material and interations of the character and he nailed all of them. what am incredible actor. hope to see more of him soon.

Cameron is an amazing actor, he almost reminds me of Bill Skarsgård sometimes especially when it comes to this role

"Throwing all that gold away cause you found a really cool rock"... kinda sound like something the Joker would do

I loved his portrayal of the Joker so much. He knocked it out of the park.

Drew Powell (Solomon Grundy) is seriously such a cool dude. I act with a nonprofit theatre company in my town (which is also the same town that he was born) and he did a video call with all of us conservatory students. He’s passionate about his hometown, and the fact that he helped out our nonprofit theatre for free shows that he’s just a genuine and great guy

Your point about the Joker demanding attention in a room without ever asking for it...totally fits Jeremiah too, though? He just doesn’t do it in a jovial way right off the bat like Jerome; he starts by doing it in a quiet way that makes you scared of his mere presence being in the same room with you. Because while you literally have no clue what he’s thinking, you just know that it’s gonna be bad for you. Jerome just did not have that scary factor to him, as insane as he was; the fun with him being onscreen was simply seeing what random twisted hijinks he’d get up to, he was FUN to watch. But you never got the idea that he could be the gangster-esque Clown Prince of Crime one day, ya know? Jerome easily has the charismatic nature, which is key, but charisma just does not equate to intelligence, & I’m sorry but the Joker is most certainly supposed to be intelligent; also very key. When Jeremiah walks into a room, you don’t know what sort of twisted plan/contingency he has to get out of that room; given his proven technical know-how in the past, that makes him almost more terrifying than Jerome in a way, at least to me. I think the show makes it a point to say that the Joker would not work unless you have both the anarchist nature of Jerome as well as the calculating mind of Jeremiah; that’s why he starts really coming into the role in season 5. It’s the many starkly different (yet key) personality traits of the Joker finally blending in a coherent way. Jerome was one side of the Joker; Jeremiah was another side, but not any less important. I respect your opinion though, I do love Jerome dearly, I just think Jeremiah is not this “inaccurate portrayal” that a lot of people try to paint him out to be.

*“I don’t know call me… OLD SPICE DEODORANT”* Literally that AD placement was perfect

Jerome is my live action Joker 100%, but I liked Jeremiah too. It was "J" in the finale that I wasn't crazy about.

don't care who's the "true joker" there's no such thing, they're all valid iterations. Let's just stand in complete awe of how AMAZING an actor Cameron is

I love the chemistry between David and Cameron; they felt like they’d grow into the characters we loved and I really wish they could’ve gone farther

i rlly hope cameron gets cast to play a version of the joker that can actually call himself the joker. he’s a great actor in everything i’ve seen him in

Cameron Monaghan (silent G, by the way) is one of the greatest underrated actors of our generation and I’ll never shut up about him. I got to know him for Shameless, and then watched Gotham for him. He’s incredible.

Damn he went on to be a jedi

To be fair, I'm pretty sure "Jeremiah" was the response to the pushback from WB that Jerome was too much like the Joker. The Gotham showrunner(s) then decided to pull out one of the Joker's "personalities," as it were, likening the two characters to the split personalities of Two-Face. "Jerome is too much like Joker? Okay, how about we show you what it would be like if the Joker and Two-Face were the same character? We saw the Psychopath, now let's see the Sociopath."

I always loved how they split the aspects that make up jokers personality into 3 separate iterations, his sadistic side, his devious side, and his pure insane side

“It’s like striking gold and throwing that gold out because you found a really cool rock” this had me creasing 😂😂. Very true though

We need Cameron in his own joker film.

Jerome: the clown, the one who wants to laugh at people dying and suffering. Jeremiah:the criminal, the one who wants to have a connection with Batman and sees batman as his lord and his friend. J: the comedian, is chaos. Tries to be worst pain of Batman. An Easter egg: Jeremiah doesn’t laugh. Just like the criminal.

Its that low growl he gets when talking "calmly" that i find such an entertaining element of Camerons performance and the same with Mark Hamill. Its the voice you get from laughing too much

I hope cameron plays a more official joker soon

I've been going down a Joker rabbit hole lately and I'm not coming back haha but yeah I believe Cameron Monaghan should be the next movie Joker, he's amazing.

My favorite character was Penguin, but I loved Jerome

Jerome had the manic fun Jeremiah had the eerie calm J seemed to be starting to mix the two, I really wish they had more time in the end to show the character he became - I think it would have been epic. From what we got, I lean towards Jerome more than Jeremiah.

Only time I've heard the phrase "hang on to your hats folks" and actually got chills. Incredible.

I must admit, I was skeptical for a long while when it was revealed that it would be Jeremiah rather than Jerome who would end up being the real Joker, as he just didn’t seem like the Joker. Despite the Joker-like appearance he gained from Jerome’s gas, he was far too cold and calculating, like an unfeeling sociopath rather than the maniacal psychopath he was supposed to be. He was doing things the Joker would do, he just wasn’t playing the part right and lacked a certain Joker feel. That is, until the final episode when he made his final and complete evolution, that’s what truly sold it for me. It was a long, drawn out transformation, but the final result was well worth it. And his relationship with Bruce, and by extension Batman, was very well done, as it essentially and almost accurately made Monaghan’s Joker’s whole reason for being revolve around Bruce. It was even strongly implied that he figured out that Bruce was Batman, and didn’t care about his identity, which has also been implied in the comics as well.

I feel like Fox was playing a game of “I’m not touching you!” but with copy right laws

This confirms that being a good jedi and being a good joker are correlated.

I full-heartedly believe that if Jerome and Jeremiah had stayed together instead of being separated by their mother that they would have ruled Gotham as two sides of the same coin. The anarchist mad man and the unfeeling cut-off Sociopathic criminal mastermind, both of them equal in power but taking on two very different sides of that same power. Jerome is the one that people want to follow because of his charisma and the unnaturally hypnotic pull that they feel toward him, he's relatable and has the perfect sob story to go with it of an unloving abusive mother and just as cruel and abusive extended family not to mention that his mere presence in a room commands respect. Jeremiah, on the other hand, doesn't put on a show as his brother does he just assumes that others will follow his lead. His cold, calm collected attitude along with this air he has about himself, this avid assuredness that he is always in charge even when he is in situations where he is the farthest thing from it gives him this aura of power and lends to him a belief that he is untouchable, that he can not be killed, this strikes fear and unwavering respect into anyone who is within his presence. This is what makes people follow him, fear, respect, and power that's how the Valeska brothers would rule Gotham, everyone would bow down those who didn't would be made a public example of and end up taking a permanent dirt nap.

Cameron Monaghan's performance is honestly more true and connected to Joker than any other. He was like Heath Ledger, with the Jack Nicholson charm. It was sad to see that a mediocre-good at times show was so enhanced by one character, but it was still compelling

Jeremiah is a cold, calculating psychopath who tries to be normal by holding back his madness. It was really scary

the fact that hamill actually liked camerons version shows how good it was, i trust hamills opinion over basement dwellers any day of the week, hheath ledgers joker was iconic, but camerons is raw and fresh, while being pure and original

So glad I'm not the only one who thought his performance ALONE was the best Joker concept portrayed for chaos!!!

I'm just here to stan Cameron Monaghan 🤧

I'm sorry but I have say that I prefer Cameron's portal of "The Joker" over any other. He had that natural ear to ear grin without the need of make-up. Also the laugh was spot on. I have to say his performance was worthy of an Emmy & Golden Globe. Any future roll of the Joker in a movie or another series Cameron should be 1st choice for casting. He has won me over as lifelong fan from here on out. L❤VE HIM❗

gotham is my personal favourite show of all time and mainly because of the fact that they picked the perfect actor that completely understood the character as if they were them and looked how i think they should e.g Gordon Riddler penguin joker (technically not but still) Bruce Barbara as a villain Catwoman just to name a few and im glad that ive managed to get people to watch this incredible show btw im not saying the show was badly writen it is amazing in every way and even with worse understandings of the characters this would still be one of my favourite if not still my favourite show

So it’s official, joker is a Jedi. We are all done for

Jerome was a good start up to for Joker's origins, but when his brother Jeremiah turned into more of intelligent and even more crazy Joker I felt satisfied with a different Clown Prince of Crime for this different Batman universe, plus the proto Harley Quinn was exciting to watch. bottom line: great Joker.

9:01 Jerome: "I used to be a great whistler" Me: "I never learned how to whistle....."

Monaghan is a comic book kid , that's why he was so good. When he was a teen he got picked up for trespassing at six flags and told the cops his name was " Tim Drake". I saw more similarities between Monaghan and Hamill than him and Ledger

100% right when you say he is playing the quintessential Joker. He successfully combined the comic goofiness of Ceser Romero, the recognisability of Mark Hamill and that ruthless, chaotic, fear inducing demeanour of Heath Ledger. And for how young the bloke was when he played the 'joker' in Gotham, it's just extra impressive

Monaghan was the best because he could bring out any aspect of the character. The sadistic maniac that was Jerome, the chilling and reserved menace of Jeremiah, and this may be cheating, but after his performance in shameless he could play the Joker in the same way Phoenix plays him, a broken man who made a monstrous abstract sculpture from his broken pieces. I'd also like to see him play Carnage, Hannibal, and even Jim Stark if we got a remake of "rebel without a cause." Who else would you like to see Cameron play? Please respond to my comment, whoever sees this.

When Jerome debuted, his end scene made me go "OH DANG! That laugh would be PERFECT for Joker!" Loved his portrayal!

I think it's cool how there's both Jerome and Jeremiah playing the role of an "unofficial joker." Like the two joker cards in a deck, one black and white (Jeremiah) serious, calculated, cold. And the colorful joker card (Jeremiah) charismatic, mysterious, breath-taking.

I'm paraphrasing here but that's the thing it's even said in the Three Jokers comics that the idea was to break Batman and open wounds (mentally) the idea is never to kill him cause then Jokers purpose would be gone.

I think it was honestly very clever the way they went about it. Jerome was straight up dangerously psychotic, Jeremiah was deviously calculating, and J was a brilliant combination of both. Gotham was overall a stunningly good series, that people didn't give enough credit to. I wish they'd find some way to bring it back

When Gordon talks to Jerome at 5:56 …Jerome talks in a normal voice then looks down an comes up with that stare an joker laugh…greatness…nothing but pure….JOKER

My favorite part about this approach is that as the joker says himself, if he did have an origin story he’d prefer it to be multiple choice

Wow David mazouz really hit us with the "IF YOU DIDNT KNOW" didnt expect him to be so into the batman mythos as he was

Jeremiah was an important step to the Joker, Jerome was TOO psychotic. He was too out there. He was a thug. Jeremiah, had the intelligence, the calmness and a grander version.

Jerome: The Clown Jeremiah: The Criminal J: The Comedian, but the show ended before we could see that come to fruition, goddamnit Gotham

Cameron Monaghan's role as the Joker was a perfect Hybrid of Health Ledger's Joker and Mark Hamil's Joker! Absolutely amazing!!

David’s answer and video were the best. He truly gave his honest opinion without feeling like he needed to please anyone.

Don't bother calling for help because they're all...headless

This actor is honestly up there with Mark Hamill

I think Cameron Monaghan is the perfect joker, even more perfect

Jerome was the Joker, hands down but Cameron Monaghan was so badass and all his Renditions of the Joker on the show!!! I'd love to see him as the Joker in a feature film I mean come on, he'd kill it!!!

Jeremiah reminded me of The Dark Knight Returns version of the Joker. Especially when we got the animated adaptation of Frank Miller's graphic novel voiced by Michael Emerson. I feel a lot of folks never read the graphic novel or watched the animated film, and they don't see that Jeremiah was the live-action incarnation of Frank Miller's Joker.

Cameron’s performances are like the three jokers storyline from the comics. Jerome is the comedian and Jeremiah is the criminal.

In a just world this guy would be the only possible casting for Reeves' Joker. He was so VERY good at this.

I was first attracted to the show by the setting. The cityscape looked like a comic book. Now that I'm in the middle of rewatching the show, it's mostly about the Joker. Cameron's portrayal and the make up crew did a creepy good job.

If you've seen Gotham and encountered Jerome is clear he improved the Gotham series😁

This is a great video man ! Thank you for this ! Wish there was more content with such detail and criticism like this

My favorite onscreen Joker. Thank you for the performance Cameron

Which one is a better fit for the muscle of the suicide squad. Killer Croc or King Shark

I need to see more of Cameron as the Joker. He was my favorite interpretation by far.

Holy shit that outro by Kevin Conroy sent chills down my spine. So happy for you. Great video, man.

When I seen his breakdown in the interrogation room. I was like, this is both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger combined and delivered in one of the most spine chilling and amazing performances I had ever seen.

I was one of the people who became invested because of Jerome. I love the actor though, in everything he does. His performance as Jerome has been one of my all time favorites.

Victor zsasz always stole the show

Starting this show from the start and meeting Jerome so early on he was such a stand out. It was always a treat when he showed up and I was so glad he and the actor took off

Watched this for the first time in 2023. Great video! The Kevin Conroy cameo at the end was a punch in the heart. RIP Batman.

I love S3 & S4 Jerome but S5 Jeremiah was absolutely amazing

Oswald and Edward were both awesome versions of Batman villains on the Gotham show as well. Especially Edward. But yeah, Jerome was a great joker.