Vegan Diet Risks Brain Health? Choline Paper Debunked

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4 жыл бұрын

UK nutritionist Emma Derbyshire wrote a paper in the BMJ attacking plant-based diets on the grounds of choline which spurred a media frenzy. This video responds with research and highlights the astounding updates to the paper's conflicts of interest.
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Choline Basics:
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Meat Advisory Panel Denying Meat Cancer Connection:
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High Choline Risk for Many Negative Biomarkers:
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Choline in Eggs Spikes TMAO:
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Vegans virtually don't make TMAO from choline:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Choline Supplements Raise Vegan TMAO and Aggregation:
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@cynicalidealist11 4 жыл бұрын

They're trying to make choline the new B12, except this time it's a complete fail because plants already contain choline.

@TheMrgrafixable 4 жыл бұрын

I hate that the focus has been taken away from b12, the one that vegans should actually be concerned with rather than random nootrients

@GregVidua 4 жыл бұрын

Properly grown plants contain B12 inside leaves and roots cells as well. In a vegan utopia of vertical farming we could easily have leafy greens that provide our needs. www.kent.ac.uk/news/science/17966/university-scientists-make-vitamin-b12-breakthrough

@davidwilliams9386 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrgrafixable I slightly and respectfully disagree my friend, I think b12 is a non issue now, in the case of vegans we're probably more likely to have too much b12 with all the hype around it the passed few years

@domen6005 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahah yes! Good point, plans do! Cauliflower is a good low calorie source

@mycelia_ow 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrgrafixable um, everyone should be concerned about B12. Most B12 deficient people are meat eaters and beef gets fortified with B12 because their flesh doesn't contain enough naturally. Taking an inexpensive supplement once a week is a superior source of B12 anyway.

@salujathustra9905 4 жыл бұрын

I'm from India, and my family is vegetarian since I can't even recall, and my grandfather, who is 73 and still kicking, didn't know where he was getting his choline from, what role fiber play or what is even a protein let alone its enormous importance, but upon my asking 'Why can't I eat chicken?', he said, 'Because they have life too, they don't just voluntarily throw themselves on the butcher's knife. They have passion for life as you I and have.' and his rural simplicity and intellectual poverty has a profundity that science could never probe into or send a mission to, because it was rooted in love, not stemming out from his egoistical desires to defend his diet or satiate his taste buds. To sum this all up pithily, icicles don't stab Ocean. If anything, they contribute to its momentum without disturbing its depth.

@caramelcupcake1275 4 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful comment! I'm Asian too and my family ate mostly brown rice, buckwheat, legumes and potatoes and my grandma is still alive and kicking at 94. She ate mostly rice and lentils since she was weaned.

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

Right on. Ride on. Rise on.

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

In fact, that's all I'm gonna say from now on when people ask me why I'm vegan. That's really the only reason that I stopped using animal products. The side effects are a bonus. I'm sick of explaining all the reasons. They are all valid, but meaningless compared to the pure and simple truth... They want to live.

@CJ-eb2nt 4 жыл бұрын

How do you get b12 ?

@lottabee 4 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-eb2nt B12 enriched food and supplementents

@Ryansarcade9 4 жыл бұрын

I was suspicious of this because she is worried about adequate choline intake in countries that consume more meat than most others the world over and more than in previous generations.

@Dinlitla 4 жыл бұрын

This!!!

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

I'm from the States and I found it almost unbelievable. I was screaming at the screen, "How many eggs do we eat?! You can't #^@%ing _get away_ from choline in this culture!" How anyone in that auditorium kept a straight face, I don't know.

@MictheVegan 4 жыл бұрын

Hey guys! Sorry for the slight delay but visiting in the UK I realized how much of an issue this is so I wanted to make sure I had some good research for you. Too bad they are all sleeping right now. Can you believe that progression of conflicts of interest? What was going on behind the scenes at the BMJ?

@davidhenderson5051 4 жыл бұрын

haha slight delay... man. You don't need to apologize amigo.. you rock! Thanks for doin this one!!

@RedPillVegan 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing this topic to your audience

@jeffsnow7547 4 жыл бұрын

Brand new one from the BMJ... we're all gonna get vegan strokes: www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l4897

@philippemathon1691 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I had watched the one by the vegan footsoldier too before yours but was pleased to watch yours and you both pretty much come to the same conclusions. I cannot understand how ONE unresearched paper published in the BMJ got so much cover in the UK.

@icturner23 4 жыл бұрын

Nope, we’re definitely not all sleeping, nor were we even when you uploaded. I’ll have time for sleep in my ten extra years of life. ;-)

@sueg180 4 жыл бұрын

BMJ should be ashamed of its self. Very grateful for your video. Thanks.

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

I can only hope they are getting substantial professional excoriation for this, hence the multiple updates to the article. Within the last two days they have published more errata, though, so maybe they need another hard lesson.

@goku445 4 жыл бұрын

brits made capitalism.

@josefinarivia 4 жыл бұрын

I got the BBC one recommended to me through Google and me and my brother had a good laugh about it. I'm studying nutrition and it's getting silly how they're trying really hard to make veganism seem dangerous.

@ashleyjohnston9282 4 жыл бұрын

joeyofrivia same. After I read it just for craps and giggles I googled “plant sources of choline”, and oh big surprise, veggies, legumes, tofu, and whole grains are all good sources of choline. 🤦‍♀️

@leangroundbeef2322 4 жыл бұрын

are you vegan?

@josefinarivia 4 жыл бұрын

@@leangroundbeef2322 if you mean me then yes, I am vegan. Been vegan for almost five years now but when it comes to nutrition and health I try to be unbiased and still learn and study about meat because I want to know everything :)

@leangroundbeef2322 4 жыл бұрын

@@josefinarivia nice. i have a few friends who are dieticians and they aren't vegan and I'm always curious to see as to which diet nutritionists and dieticians adhere to.

@mycelia_ow 4 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyjohnston9282 Soy has almost as much choline as eggs 😂

@WillJukedTheBox 4 жыл бұрын

Wow the corruption runs deep

@mycelia_ow 4 жыл бұрын

@Peter Rabitt in other words, an oligarchy that makes up the top 1%

@LevelUpWellness 4 жыл бұрын

protein, calcium, iron, B12, zinc, cholesterol, fats, and now choline?!?! Whatever shall I do? My plant based diet that reversed my autoimmune disease is becoming more deficient by the day! 😂 In all seriousness, great vid Mic! 🙏🏼👍🏼

@nekochadechu 4 жыл бұрын

i'm starting to find it funny how desperate they are

@benjaminballs2859 4 жыл бұрын

ねこちゃnekocha only time will tell.

@nekochadechu 4 жыл бұрын

I read an article saying that water might not be the best way to get fully hydrated and i thought to myself it would be funny if they said milk was better, and it was really what they said hfndjkjdclksdsds I'm not even shocked at that point now

@Xoxotho 4 жыл бұрын

Lol they are really trying very hard. #sad

@theotterone4111 3 жыл бұрын

Plant based diets are usually fabricated by vegans. Vegan, and carnivores diets = Unhealthy, harmful. Proper vegetarian, and omnivores diets = healthy, not harmful. There were tons of studies that were disproven through the recent years. People disproven a common popular study because they took out processed foods when it came to the vegan diet. But the meat diet wasnt measured or fixed properly. ((There are different kinds of meats, and preparations, and they didnt take that into account. Not to mention not all meats are processed meats.)) If you look at all the lies vegans will tell you theres scientists that disprove all "facts" of vegans. Organ meats are known to actually help your health than to actually harm it. Another issue with meat is when its cooked a certain way it can actually create a harmful substance to humans. It isnt the meat that's harmful... it's literally the way its cooked. That's like if vegans cooked their meal covered in protein oils. That's straight up unhealthy. That's why cooking it, choosing the meats, and studying it properly is important. www.google.com/search?q=lies+vegans&oq=&aqs=chrome.1.35i39l5.-1j0j7&client=ms-android-bell-ca&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqyenrqb0tyxf3U.html

@AreliMusiK 4 жыл бұрын

First Choline, and now 'higher risk of strokes' in vegans/vegetarians - These BBC pseudoscientific articles are becoming more and more laughable!

@ryantfinchum 4 жыл бұрын

The latest argument against plant-based eating: choline tho

@kennethjohnson919 3 жыл бұрын

So we can get it from nuts and green vegetables.

@heindlwest 3 жыл бұрын

@@kennethjohnson919 Broccoli Cauliflower Soy beans

@HenchHerbivore 4 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for THIS one! 👏👏👏

@MictheVegan 4 жыл бұрын

How are you awake?! Hope you like it!

@davidhenderson5051 4 жыл бұрын

@@MictheVegan Hench doesn't need sleep... Sleep needs HENCH!!

@HenchHerbivore 4 жыл бұрын

Mic the Vegan 🤣 I love it! Thanks for covering such an important topic!

@TheBerkeleyBeauty 4 жыл бұрын

Mic the Vegan - It’s 6:30 am there. Of course he’s up.

@icturner23 4 жыл бұрын

Mic the Vegan I’m still up from Wednesday here in the U.K. Work’s not going to do itself. :-)

@wifeofkhan9375 4 жыл бұрын

Shocking and sad that these lies are so boldly presented. Shame on her.

@nealwailing3870 4 жыл бұрын

Truth seems to have gone plain out of fashion!

@meinname5788 4 жыл бұрын

Wife Of Khan Are you Vegan? Are those mutton recipes in your Favourites Vegan?

@wifeofkhan9375 4 жыл бұрын

@@meinname5788 1. yes, 2. no

@cumsoak 2 жыл бұрын

I like your profile picture

@tmusson151186 4 жыл бұрын

The BBC radio stations was spouting this non sense on the first day of the UK camp out. Coincident much?

@Caleb4God92 4 жыл бұрын

Your statement about the IQ of vegetarians begs the question does a vegetarian diet cause a higher IQ or do people with a higher IQ choose a vegetarian diet? Sounds like a win-win to me.

@kx7500 4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Hicks it’s most likely vastly the latter.

@jessica9156 4 жыл бұрын

Lately I've been seeing a lot of articles on this in my suggestive Google news feed. The first one I read the headline to I was like, "Damn it!" 🤦 Always at it again with total BS! I'm glad you made this video, but it must get annoying having to debunk things like this.

@fairywar 4 жыл бұрын

Jessica N. Google has a new alliance (paid) with big pharma and the strategy is to bury anti-pharma information or lifestyle health promoting pages and push industry beneficial websites and news. Not a coincidence we all get more and more of theses crap biased news in our feeds

@florianwueest 4 жыл бұрын

Meh, a brain is overrated. I know a lot of carnitards who seem to be doing just fine without.

@sandray7609 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@salujathustra9905 4 жыл бұрын

That was brutal!

@davidwilliams9386 4 жыл бұрын

Damn! Roasted to the highest degree

@kx7500 4 жыл бұрын

Cringe.

@florianwueest 4 жыл бұрын

@Rip van Winkle You sir are a perfect example of my previous point. Thank you for self selecting.

@byReZio 4 жыл бұрын

Quinoa (1 cup cooked, 185g) = 43mg Broccoli (1 cup cooked, 150g) = 60mg Pinto Beans (1 cup cooked, 180g) = 63mg Total choline content of the meal: 166mg

@mycelia_ow 4 жыл бұрын

Add soy for triple that total in one cup :)

@Blah115 4 жыл бұрын

ִ⁠ do you think is it important to eat organic soybean? I am new in whole food plant base diet and realy I can’t eat this size of meal as @tombyrezio wrote. It is to big portion for me and I am having problem to balance everything. Or do you thing suplement of choline is fine? Thank you

@byReZio 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not a troll Love y’all Or supplement with some organic pastured eggs you buy to a local farmer. I wish I had done that sooner. Well I wish I hadn’t gone vegan but to each their own.

@athenaalexcat1529 4 жыл бұрын

tombyrezio no thanks in don’t fund and pay for animal abuse. Sorry to the animals you are paying to be tortured.

@byReZio 4 жыл бұрын

@@athenaalexcat1529 They're not tortured at all actually, I see them every time I buy the eggs. They have a better life than the animals that die from pesticides in soy crops or those that get desiccated by the tillage or harvest.

@Brynjar1 4 жыл бұрын

The biggest risk for our brains is to deal with stupid carnist arguments .

@RiDankulous 4 жыл бұрын

It's honestly not worth our time, but worse, there is much hate in the comments and inferred in many videos attacking vegans, attacking anything. It's toxic and brings people's mindset down. I feel it should be avoided. Conflict can happen but there's too much and I feel it should be avoided to stay positive.

@Brynjar1 4 жыл бұрын

@@RiDankulous It's really insane, even being respectful, most intelligent people when it's about veganism start behaving very immature, it's so sad to watch someone who you admire being so dumb .

@RiDankulous 4 жыл бұрын

I see it too, Vyn. I myself have strong beliefs about some things, too, and have to be careful to be considerate and mindful when I speak on certain topics, or avoid the topics altogether. :) Best wishes.

@jjbutterbeans1515 4 жыл бұрын

I googled which plant foods have choline. I come across a list of things I litteraly eat every single day. Some things multiple times a day. Decided I didn't need to worry about it. 😐

@glamourgirl1294 4 жыл бұрын

Oats, beans, brown rice I'm getting plenty of choline.

@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын

I eat oats, beans, quinoa, and broccoli on a regular basis. Plenty of choline in my vegan diet too.

@fairywar 4 жыл бұрын

Glamour girl and plenty of good health too! ;)

@MistakenMystery 4 жыл бұрын

Plenty of lectins too and ruining your gut

@fairywar 4 жыл бұрын

MistakenMystery hahaha look we have someone with no clue about science coming to post what the bloggers and paleos have told him. How cute!

@MistakenMystery 4 жыл бұрын

@@fairywar beans don't have lectins?

@anthonydude 4 жыл бұрын

Shame on the BMJ for publishing this rubbish.

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

@Peter Rabitt Very Yoda of you, Peter.

@AnaliliB 4 жыл бұрын

I ate a lot of stake and eggs many years ago. I still had a little son with a neural tube defect which was incompatible with life. This and other sad experiences drove me to look into a plant based diet. I have freed myself from debilitating arthritis and constipation just to mention a few health benefits. Long live plants! 🥕🥔🍆🥑🥒🌽🍠🍓🍊

@happygimp0 4 жыл бұрын

That sounds horrible, i feel so bad for you and your son :(. Maybe that was caused by folate deficency, there is a lot of folate in whole plant food but only a little in animal products and junk food. 58% of omnivores are folate deficient. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26502280/

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

My breakfast: tomatoes, cabbage, blueberries, orange, cucumber, cilantro- choline and protein already at 25% of daily requirements.

@nellieeess 4 жыл бұрын

Ro Ku that’s such a weird breakfast but you do you

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

@@nellieeess It's what happens when my sister gives me way lots of produce from her garden. Weird meals to use it all.

@nicholastidemann9384 4 жыл бұрын

And just as that made the rounds, I woke up today to the BMJ having published an article about vegetarians and vegans having a higher risk of suffering a stroke; I apparently didn't get the memo where the BMJ said it was up for sale.

@wolfhugs2221 4 жыл бұрын

Sky news have reported that vegans and vegetarians are at higher risk of stroke this morning. Heck the industries are getting scared. I feel like you're going to be busy from here on in, Mic. Thankyou for keeping the facts and truth out here in laymans terms for us, to defend ourselves from the carnist attacks.

@robertremak600 4 жыл бұрын

Wolf Spear I saw that this morning.. the article I read actually grouped both vegetarians and vegans together in the same group and actually didn’t find the cause for their statement. They just made an assumption that is was based off a lack of nutrients.

@carnivoroussarah 2 жыл бұрын

Taking a step back, I realize how absurd this world is these days. So glad some sane people are left haha.

@taguardian 4 жыл бұрын

Mic, the BBC had put out some outrageous articles today, please respond to them.

@ludicrousone8706 4 жыл бұрын

I Wonder if this had anything to do with Brexit? Showing the Britisch Public that fruit and vegetables are highly overrated and that Britain can get by without European Imports. Just a thought

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

@@ludicrousone8706 Not a bad observation.

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

@@ludicrousone8706 That would not have occurred to me, but it is plausible, and now my head hurts.

@JHClimbs 4 жыл бұрын

Is that the 20% higher risk of stroke one? I heard it on the BBC radio news bulletin first thing this morning, triggered me before I was even fully awake!

@taguardian 4 жыл бұрын

@@JHClimbs yes and now today Mic has responded 💗

@blueraven0075 4 жыл бұрын

Mic btw, Dr. Greger has posted some new videos on new Keto diet results, discussing recent studies that totally debunk it

@Misskel182 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you , Thank you , Thank you 🙏 Since this hit the headlines I have been hounded and I will be honest had me concerned for the younger vegans out there. This has put my mind at rest and will be sharing this video now 🥰 Keep up the awesome work!

@salujathustra9905 4 жыл бұрын

People like Vivekananda and Da Vinci who abjured meat or never even tasted it, had eidetic memory. Most of us sadly are eavesdropping while living in a celestial mansion of Nature. Thank you for treating animal with love and compassion.

@elcaminodelaluz7536 4 жыл бұрын

As my grandpa says: The lies have short legs and fall by themselves. This biased eggs and meat industry false information is the biggest risk to society imo. Good job Mic, your content is Top-notch as always

@Nitiiii11 4 жыл бұрын

Oh no please don't talk about choline. It is triggering my choline deficiency.

@Raven.13 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@EarthtoRosita 4 жыл бұрын

thats ok, soon youll be too dumb to even understand whats happening 🤣😂 (kidding, im a fierce and passionate vegan :P )

@Jilleyful 4 жыл бұрын

I saw this video, and this is what went through my brain! Lol "Choline, choline, choline, choliiiine!" Sung to the tune of "Jolene"

@stephanierose1818 4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!! 😭❤ seriously, I've been longing for this....I got into an argument with my mum last week because of this. She had been watching a Show from a Doctor via Facebook Live Videos (who is obviously just an entertainer in my eyes 😅😔) ...she insisted that this news he was talking about was true and I might get sick if I stick with a vegan diet and told me to eat meat and dairy from time to time, since we "need this" ...😔 somehow this was heart breaking for me

@salujathustra9905 4 жыл бұрын

Stephanie Rose your mom apparently wasn't interested in truth. She just wanted an argument to defend her diet, is all. People like Vivekananda and Da Vinci who abjured meat or never even tasted it, had eidetic memory because they weren't listening to science or accumulating data to sharpen their intellect so that could prove other wrong, but listened to their bodies. They were interested in living. Most of us sadly are eavesdropping while living in a celestial mansion. Doing right thing is vanity, not doing wrong is humility. I hope your arguments are rooted in love, not stemming from knowledge. Thank you for standing up to your mom for animals.

@xb4439 3 ай бұрын

Stephanie be strong. The industries want to vilify VEGANs and label them with all sorts of vicious lies. But be strong. God protect you and save you. God bless!

@Wearephuct-O 4 жыл бұрын

I can't understand you because of my choline deficiency and because you're not wearing any hats.

@missoats8731 4 жыл бұрын

Not even a face hat....disgusting.

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

Hats help me focus 🤤

@Wearephuct-O 4 жыл бұрын

@@missoats8731 The beard helps tho

@Wearephuct-O 4 жыл бұрын

@@FKBUSH1 HatLogic™

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

@@Wearephuct-O Right on. I've seen the charts and graphs.

@scamp838 4 жыл бұрын

There was another article published in the BMJ that said about people who follow Vegan and Vegetarian diets have an increased risk of stroke due to low cholesterol... It's been pretty much thrown out by other studies at least what was reported in the Guardian newspaper but was interesting to say the least... First choline then that...

@davidwilliams9386 4 жыл бұрын

Meat industry overlord: The vegans are getting smarter the b12 fear mongering doesn't work anymore...what shall I do Meat industry overlords Igor assistant: sire I've went through the list and I believe choline is our next best shot Meat industry overlord: choline huh....yes..hahaha.. YES....YEEEEEESSSSS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AND Scene

@goku445 4 жыл бұрын

B12 fear mongering is actually a good thing.

@marley7659 4 жыл бұрын

@@goku445 I agree I don't want nerve damage. It is important for me to have b12 sources in my life. So I don't mind taking b12 or consuming fortified products. The fear mongering helps.

@benjaminballs2859 4 жыл бұрын

David Williams how long have you been Vegan? I do hope you are actually supplementing. Your liver can hold about 5 years worth of B12

@davidwilliams9386 4 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminballs2859 3 years buddy, I supplement rarely but I eat a ton of nutritional yeast and fortified milks

@happyvit1002 4 жыл бұрын

Bravo to you, Mic. I read that misleading news article few days ago & was very disturbed. I was hoping someone knowledgeable will debunk that & YOU did just that! Many thanks!

@Reny2701 4 жыл бұрын

This is why I love science. My husband, here in the UK, was sent this article by one of his colleague. My husband is not even vegan 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. I cook him for work plant based meals and he eats healthier but he also eats chicken and some crappy processed foods, no often though. So people are using this not just for vegans but now even for people who eat healthier. How more ridiculous is this becoming. Strangely, his collages have all high blood pressure and cholesterol, some diabetes, some gouts and all other health problems. I wouldn’t be laughing if I am that sick. Great video Mic, thank you!

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

Now we know why Quorn insists on putting egg in all their products🙄

@christiehorsley549 4 жыл бұрын

Quorn now offers vegan "chicken" patties and burgers. (No, i'm not affiliated with Quorn.)

@Steetotal 4 жыл бұрын

It was severly awesome to meet you and your girlfriend at the UK Vegan Camp Out! Thank you for keeping us well informed on how to live vegan safely!

@marysmith7765 Жыл бұрын

I am grateful for Chronometer. My choline intake was almost zero since I went plant based and I started to supplement. It really helped with brain fog.

@MissJemimaPuddleduck Жыл бұрын

There is choline in legumes, bananas, and honeydew melon! :)

@Test-eb9bj 7 ай бұрын

I am with you regarding the benefits of Cronometer. I track my food almost perfectly and daily since years and it turned out that over the course of a whole year I was/am short of about 30-40% regarding the recommended intake. I aim for a high diversity in my food portfolio and can not eat consistently/each day enough legumes or whole grains etc. to get their. I decided to add to it with a supplement.

@valerievonskullz825 4 жыл бұрын

Choline, Choline, Choline, Choliiiiiiiine please don’t say I’m lacking cuz I’m nooot (to the tune of Jolene by Dolly Parton)

@florianwueest 4 жыл бұрын

🎤I'm begging you please don't take my brain 🎤

@surajpoudel3215 4 жыл бұрын

Strangely i thought of that song too when choline news came into mainstream.

@HenchHerbivore 4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Sani101 4 жыл бұрын

Apparently Dr Emma Derbyshire is the member of the Meat Advisory Panel.😁 It’s so easy to find this opinion paper from dr Emma on every mainstream science page but when it comes to health benefits of vegan diet,reversing diseases etc they are absolutely silent.

@desireayer 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I appreciate how quickly you address these types of topics and help to get the right information out there. Love this channel. Looks like you had fun in London. Saw you on Hench Herbivore's channel ;)

@anupamkhemariya9128 4 жыл бұрын

Mic is among the very few plant based food activists who r more than genius!!

@mystyboarder910 4 жыл бұрын

Mic is a well know cherry picker and not a genius at all. It's sad how many people follow him blindly without fact checking him. He runs a KZfaq channel and relies on clicks to earn money.

@anupamkhemariya9128 4 жыл бұрын

@@mystyboarder910 I love him..his explanations are always scientific and satisfactory.He is a true plant based diet follower and an inspiration too.👍👍

@kx7500 4 жыл бұрын

Seano seems like you’re triggered by facts eh? Provide evidence for your claims

@eelkeaptroot1393 4 жыл бұрын

Good rebuttle Mike!

@RedPillVegan 4 жыл бұрын

Would have been cool to shout out Vegan Footsoldier, as he covered many of these points in his also high quality & thorough videos.

@leonardodavinci7425 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed yeah!

@MictheVegan 4 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to mention a mistake in the choline math (thanks Eduardo). The pinto bean number is actually for dry beans not cooked beans so it's a bit lower. Quinoa in the USDA database is not specified as cooked or not so it's unclear there. Either way, you can easily get enough choline from plants...assuming we even need that much.

@sunnypepper4777 4 жыл бұрын

I've been curious to learn more about choline, thank you for this one!

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

Nutrition Facts .org has a series of videos on choline: nutritionfacts.org/?s=choline

@samsmith3980 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this video, clears up the confusion 🙂👍

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

This was very well done. Thanks for putting all the info together 👍

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your great work ! It's really helpfull even here in France ;-)

@mediamonitor3859 4 жыл бұрын

Stories like this one will keep coming out as the meat and dairy industries feel the heat of loosing ground to veganism.

@doare1742 4 жыл бұрын

great response mic keep em coming..

@cmntr_ 4 жыл бұрын

3:47 Thanks for adding the chart, Mic! Could you add the source and maybe make a whole video on what to look in for good peer-reviewed research (in medical, pharmaceutical and nutritional studies specifically)? I have never come across good advice on this during my BA studies and I think a lot of your viewers would be interested too! :)

@myinvisibleangel 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying this... your videos are the best and love how thorough you are! It is terrible how articles like that take off when they have such a huge bias. I wish everyone could be motivated by truly understanding health and not trying to profit off of people's misunderstanding :-/ Appreciate all you do!

@ira__s 4 жыл бұрын

I saw one headline talking about this but didn't even click it cause I knew it was probably gonna be something stupid... and who knew!! IT WAS! Glad to be on the map about this without having to read the trash myself. Now I can answer the stupid questions people are gonna ask me.

@ginalucydavis4740 4 жыл бұрын

This video 🙌🏻🙌🏻 this was actually on the news on the radio, bbc 1, and it really irritated me when I heard it! trying to scare people off of a diet that can do so much good 😭😭

@robertkirby8685 4 жыл бұрын

I don't eat eggs that often, mostly cause they don't taste that good to me (unless it's scrambled) and cause of the high amounts of cholesterol in it.

@Gloria-ke1md 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly I don't understand the hype it basically tastes like sponge or something 😂

@tomace664 4 жыл бұрын

Just eat egg whites then. No cholesterol

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

Even the eggs from truly free-range chickens on my family's very small farm always tasted to me like farts and metal. I couldn't hardly gag them down without a lot of other things on them, as in omelettes with tons of onions, peppers, cheese, hot sauce, parsley, salt, pepper, etc.

@laligneverte8124 4 жыл бұрын

Simply enjoyable! I relay the info.

@Rhyddid_tan 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome work thank you for giving you time on this 👍

@donaldanderson6578 4 жыл бұрын

You're an absolute boss. Thank you Mic.

@marlajacques6947 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mic! Setting the record straight I see...I'm sure if u went thru all the "scientific reports" claiming these meat benefits, they'd all lead back to the same bloody place

@pmariewatson 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your timely explanation of the choline issue. I was just about to embark in my own research of the topic. Keep up the good work.

@peacefulveganrelationshipc4746 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for keeping us informed!

@gracewilliams6581 4 жыл бұрын

thank you for what you do 😊

@RedPillVegan 4 жыл бұрын

My brain, it has been stunted. 😱

@davidpayne1480 4 жыл бұрын

Was an honour to meet you at V Camp out Mic. Loved the talk, very informative and funny at the same time. Great reception and turn out to listen to you. Keep educating the world. Kind Regards David Payne

@SoulFromMars 4 жыл бұрын

I love you, Mike. I was reading the paper about choline, and I thought like has to make a video about this. And you have done it already!!!

@gw6418 4 жыл бұрын

Great Mike. Have you done a formal response (letter) to the BMJ?

@sparkythesolocruiser6375 5 ай бұрын

I used to own a restaurant and took the 2 day 16 hour food safety managers course several times and the most important thing I learned is that eggs and dead animal flesh had to be handled like toxic waste .... so how do people think eating food full of pathogens is healthy?

@xb4439 3 ай бұрын

Please make videos to expose the truth. God bless!

@jm2145 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Mic! Very timely and great summary! :)

@amybradley216 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video! Thanks for all you do! You're the best!

@Bucketheadcube 4 жыл бұрын

ah Mike, your videos are always a plesure =) Nice work again !

@thelissaharris8033 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the debunk. I think her paper is dangerous regarding eggs. Men with metastatic prostate cancer should not eat eggs and should probably shoot for the lower normal limits of plant based choline. This is a real problem in the African American population but as Dr Milton Mills has said some of the USDA guidelines are racist(milk) and this one will be too if the egg and meat industry are successful in this distraction.

@theresabax5694 4 жыл бұрын

Whenever I need answers I look to you Mic the Vegan! Thank-you for this video.

@lambertvangestel74 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you for your research! Will there be a reaction/letter to the editor of the BMJ?

@anonymoussoumynona383 3 жыл бұрын

So I'm vegan and don't want to gamble with my health, I also study nutrition at uni so I am learning conventional mainstream nutritonal science. My curiosity is sure there is choline in plant foods (broccoli, quinoa, soy, mushrooms etc), but there is nowhere near enough to get close to even 400mg of choline a day which is still less than the recommended amount for a woman. 43mg from quinoa + 58mg from mushrooms + pinto beans 30mg + peanut butter 11mg + broccoli 31mg + 1 cup of soy milk 57mg + halfa cup of tofu 35mg = 265mg and that's taking into account if you're eating all of those foods every day, it's way under the recommended amount. I'm a guy (2 meters tall, 105kgs, highly athletic), my recommended daily intake is 550mg, though given my size and how under studied choline is I probably need a bit more than 550mg. With 265mg of choline each day (roughly half the daily intake for a guy) on the above foods, shouldn't everyone following a vegan diet also take a choline supplement?

@miloka2938 4 жыл бұрын

Could you make a video about new bbc news article titled:”Vegans and vegetarians may have higher stroke risk”?

@kellicardaras2805 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! Thanks so much for your hard work.

@HeadyTron85 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Just what I needed to hear!

@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 4 жыл бұрын

Years ago, I read some click bait that claimed choline was a neurotropic drug ,so I took some as a supplement to help me study . Later I found out that it comes from eggs and is actually awful for you . I try not to take advice from click bait anymore .

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

I did that too, some years back *headdesk*

@tamcon72 4 жыл бұрын

At least ginko biloba makes a nice tea.

@FKBUSH1 4 жыл бұрын

All you have to do is search choline deficiency, and you can see for yourself how incredibly rare it is, and how it doesn't seem to have ANYTHING to do with whether you eat animal products, or not.

@TheLaly37 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. I was challenged about this today!

@seitanarchist 4 жыл бұрын

The fourth disclosure of conflicts of interest was one of your best jokes. Well done.

@pamcurrie7828 4 жыл бұрын

Smugness complete. Love it.

@silentfriend369 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you made this!

@82wtughlaf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video!

@RWRLDLLC Жыл бұрын

I truly appreciate your videos. When ever I see a video that claims I’m not getting enough nutrients, all I have to do is type in your name and the subject of concern, and WALAH. You always have detailed information about it. You have made being a vegan possible for me and my family, and I can’t thank you enough. I literally just follow your recommendations, as well as read the books written by the amazing Vegan Doctors, and I feel great!!

@SpooksMom 4 жыл бұрын

I was just researching this myself after one listening to one of Dr Steve Blake videos on youtube (love Dr Steve Blake). He was mentioning that nutritional yeast has choline in it as well as the other foods you mentioned. I have to say that since going vegan 4 years ago I feel my mind is more clear plus I no longer get brain fog mid afternoon like I used to. .I think I must be getting enough LOL

@garrygarry3371 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I heard this on the radio. With a quick Google search I debunked this in a matter of seconds.

@claireg9610 4 жыл бұрын

P.S. Thanks for your vids Mic, I use them to revise arguments for when I socialise with the carnists

@vfran838 4 жыл бұрын

You deserve a standing ovation on the work that goes into these videos!! Amazing.

@abletactics1913 4 жыл бұрын

Another drawback: Choline took my man. And I was begging it please don't take my man

@astridwestinner1869 4 жыл бұрын

Able Tactics 😂

@Xoxotho 4 жыл бұрын

😅I can't

@Situbusit 4 жыл бұрын

Cracking video!

@reenatai75 4 жыл бұрын

Useful info 👍🏻

@deepakhiranandani6488 4 жыл бұрын

Very good, thanks. A necessary video like so many on this channel. I first read about choline in 1974, and then it seemed to be often mentioned together with inositol probably the same food sources or effects together. This came to my mind so just saying.

@avivamae5171 4 жыл бұрын

As a vegan Choline is a vitamin I've literally never worried about because it's so easy to get enough of it without really trying. This whole argument is so sad and infuriating! Great video and thanks for covering this topic as I had no idea this was going on.

@ryantfinchum 4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about you but I'M going to change my entire diet because of a single nutrient.. The results can only be positive, right?

@roku3216 4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah there's no way I'd just eat a little more broccoli if I were short on choline! I'd go full S3wage!

@dettol7245 4 жыл бұрын

You having little choline will effect your upcoming children Proof? Search google lazy brains