4 Saber Classes with one Steamrunner Class as s command ship can make a very effective "cavalry squad." One Saber and Steamrunner squadron will do the hit and run meanwhile Akira class squadron will spam artillery fire, while Norway Classes will hold the flanks.

I love this ship! Its like the Federations Bird of Prey!

Would have loved to have seen this and some of the other anti borg ships instead of never ending waves of Excelsior and Miranda ships.

I was never particularly fond of the Sabre class until I started reading the Corp of Engineer books and absolutely fell in love with the USS da Vinci

The Saber is the Starfleet equivalent of the American Fletcher-class Destroyer or the Australian Magpie. Relatively small in size, they are still very formidable on their own; yet they are quite easy to spam out on mass and when present in large numbers they can and often will overwhelm their opponents with both quantity and quality. This saber destroys via "death by a thousand cuts. It is a quaint little ship and it would be nice to see more of it on screen given lore-wise it was greatly mass-produced.

So I think the smaller size makes sense. Closer to 190m though as that's apparently how they scaled the ship in First Contact despite their initial size charts having it at 223m. I think of the Saber as the 24th century Miranda class replacement, and at 223m, it kind of dwarfs the Miranda class. At 190 it's pretty comparable, in terms of volume.

I recently picked a Saber class starship in ST Online. It's a cool "little" ship. Thank you for making this video!

I like all the anti borg ships!

I like the saber as a defiant class that you can do long deployments on, and can accomplish more starfleet utility type missions in non-combat, just not waiting around to fight. I also like that the primary weapons can be brought to bear on the target an most any angle, all the time, while maneuvering to best position. My problem with the defiants (fixed forward primary guns) is you constantly have to reset yourself in a moving battle to point your ship toward the target. While defiants still have beams for when they are engaging at off angles, those seem like secondary weapons.

Borg, Cardassians, Breen, Dominion, all in the day's work for the Sabre Class

Saber class is older than the defiant class in terms of design "The textures are from the Galaxy-class Enterprise, it was a quick way to show that even though it was a 'new' design, it was of the older era ships compared to the then new Enterprise-E." quoted from Alex Yeager

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I think "Big things in small packages" is Starfleet's whole philosophy in ship building. For they make ships that can fight and destroy ships twice their weight class. I mean a Galaxy Class could win a fight with a D'Dredix despite the D'Dredix being three times its size and twice its volume. And Sovereign is designed to hit well beyond its weight class.

this ship would've been cool in the birth of the federation game

Not sure why but the 1st time I saw this little ship, I fell deeply in love with it. Something about the design just speaks to me. For versatility, the Intrepid wins but overall, the Saber will always be my favorite ship of Star Trek.

This really should have been the Lower Decks Hero Ship.

This design always reminds me of the Jem Hadar bug ships.

this may be my favorite star trek starship design.

I allways imagined it having a pair of single phaser pulse cannons to help backup the Akiras, norways, and steamrunner classes. Even the name denotes it was made to cut deep. To be the tip of the spear.

Saber Class reminds me of a horseshoe crab.. Lolol not the best but I’ll take it over any modern day designs we’ve seen on screen

Even the smaller version of the Sabre is still shockingly big compared to a person. It’s hard to get a sense of scale for these ships from time to time and I really like seeing things like the shuttle bay doors. This ship is huge for how maneuverable it is.

I think a big part of most space fleets will be smaller ships for patrol and general "gofer" tasks. These could easily replace the Miranda in general service, just as I see the Intrepid replacing the now aged Excelsior in service. Defiant and Promethius class ships are too specialized and too expensive for "jeep" duties, and Galexy and Sovereign are just to pricy for the job. Nebula class are just not available in the numbers needed.

The Saber serves to show what happens when Starfleet decides to stop being nice they make a focused warship that can beat the stuffing out of anything dumb enough to get in knife fighting range with it

It would have been nice after the Defiant got destroyed at the 2nd battle of Chintoka that instead of just replacing it with another Defiant if they replaced it with the Saber or even Akira Class. It kind of took away the impact of the Defiant being destroyed when they replaced it a couple episodes later.

For some reason, I pictured the crews as rivals with the crews of the Defiant class ships.

If there ever was a defiant-a, this I think would be it

Love this

I loves me some Dax.😍

That whole overloading thing, can't they just use thicker guage wiring?

The true Hero Ship Class of the 24th Century Starfleet.

I really like the saber design but I would've loved it more if it was the class we got on screen in DS9 instead of all those miranda's

One thing about this ship, from the module I have, it seems to have an insane amount of escape pods. More than there are crew!

In starfleet command 3, the sabre was smaller than a norway. It was the smallest federation ship in the game (with the exception of the defiant). Comparable in size to a bird of prey. Bigger but not by much.

Excellent show.

if AI ever gets to that i want a series of "every ship dropped of in the delta quad." and see how far each ship gets

Thanks for covering this. I suggested the Saber class as an alternative to the Defiant in your best attack/fighter video.

I like the idea from ASDB that they were used a lot for diplomatic Courier jobs. You really don't need the big ships a lot of the time for diplomatic duty and running about, and given how much diplomacy it would take to keep the federation ticking along having a ship built for that might make a lot of sense. Internal patrol duty and Border Patrol would also Suite a Sabre quite well. If it were designed with a lot of Diplomatic Duty in mind then it may have had a decent set of Holodecks onboard. More than her size would suggest. Combined with the small crew might mean Saber crews got a higher number of Holodeck hours on average compared to other vessels. I also think of her as a pretty direct Miranda replacement, the same way we think of the Nova as the direct Oberth replacement. By this point in the 24th century, Miranda is long in the tooth and needing replacement plus has probably been down rated in terms of role from her Light Cruiser Origins. That may lend credence to the idea that the Sabre's design is a little older than the Defiant and that it got re-jiggered with the Borg Scare. Tactically she certainly is a supporting ship for larger formations and I could also see Starfleet having more confidence sending a Sabre out for a Recon/Scout mission than a Nova. Certainly built to be Starfleet's Fast Frigate/Destroyer to carry them into the 25th Century. SIDE NOTE: Another thing to note is that the Defiant class got Shelved for a while. Around 3-4 years, assuming Sisko went straight from working on Defiant to DS9 and it was only after the DS9 crew worked out the bugs that they got Defiant production going again. Starfleet may very well have thought "With all these new, more tactical vessels coming online we don't need Defiant, She served very well as a prototype technologies testbed." Meaning Sabre and Steamrunner were destined too take over Defiant's role. Then the war happened and starfleet recognized the Defiant as the "best in class" design and got production started.

I love her. Your art ,oh well done .

I really love this design of ship wish we had been able to see more of it

Like the series. Many thanx for the effort. Still like warm over the saber. Maybe be caused reading SCE series. Be safe 🦊

That same strategy worked with the M4 during WWII .... kinda . It worked for everyone except the M4 crews . Taking a ship against something 10 times your size even in a swarm isnt a good idea as much as Hollywood likes it at the moment . Let me put it this way ..... would you rather go up against the Yamato with 10 PT boats , two Bismarck class battleships or three Iowa class battleships ? I bet a poll on this one will prove size matters . lol

It looks like a fighter jet.

I totally love the Saber class it's a really cool looking for

Neat ship. I have always liked this one. A fast, light ship that can be built quickly by the 100's. It is an excellent fast build counterpart to the Jem'hadar warships which are almost throw away ships. I think the Sabre would be able to take a little bit more punishment though before destruction. I was reading somewhere that the Sabre class is equipped with Type X Phaser Arrays which would certainly give it more punch than most other small ships.

There’s a certain irony in employing swarm tactics against a hive mind society.

A Akira with two K'Vort class bird's of prey would be a good squad

Looks like it adheres to "Da Rules"

I’ve always had a bit of a thing for the Saber since I first discovered it, it’s such a uniquely-designed vessel compared to the usual Starfleet models. Putting the secondary hull and nacelles level with one another and trailing behind the flat, blunt saucer section gives a sort of reverse-trimaran look to it. Honestly I’d love to see a book or short series centred around a Saber Attack Wing Wolfpack during the Dominion War, focussing on the tactics and smaller fleet engagements, not to mention the interactions and bonds between each ship and their fellows.

I personally would'nt classify the Saber as destroyer but as a Frigate. The role of a destroyer is better met by the Norway and steamrunner class of star ships.

I always imagined a Galaxy class battle saucer section looking like this. Basically making it a discount Prometheus class

with the lager ones, they could have more science intraments in them, so mainly for non combat, but could hold its own.

I have a (STO) T-6x Fleet Sabre. Really fun to fly.

Great

Small, fast, maneuverable, and can definitely dodge a particle beam (which travels at the speed of light) while at impulse speeds **IF** it has enough distance.

The Sabre to me felt like a "less risky" design than Defiant, to fulfill a simular role, likely a second idea adopted after the Defiant was mothballed, or maybe in testing at the same time as Defiant, slightly less powerful, based upon less experemental technology so less to go wrong, and closer to the usualy Starfleet design style, so generally the Sabre felt like less of a risk after the Defiant, then pushed imeadiatly into large scale production, 2-5 years before Defiant was hense more of them being seen. I'd imagine the Defiant entered large scale production between the time of the battle of Sector 001or the start of the Dominion war but it looks like the Sabre was already being produced in numbers by then, the Defiant was initially considered a failed prototype, so was mothballed for a few years, then O'Brian fixed all the problems in a few weeks what a Starfleet design team could not do in a few years, but it would have taken a while for Starfleet to be convinced she was now a viable design, so they may have built a few more Defiant class ships around DS9 season 4 (the Vailant and maybe a few more) to ensure the Defiant class truely was viable without O'Brian acting as the chief engineer, then later started mass production on the class, but the Sabre had a few years head start.

The Defiants other angry brother!

Did I miss something or did Jaczia Dax have a command before she died? Pretty sure she was a rookie at the beginning of DS9 On the shuttle ride with Sisko...Her pic as click bate ? 🤣🤷‍♂️

Oh my dear YEAGER YOU'RE TIME WILL COME!

I like this ship more now after this video

scale it off a shuttle craft to get a approximate size

Two favourite ships in Star Trek are the saber class destroyer and the Ambassador heavy cruiser

I shall say the same thing here I said when I first saw this on Star Trek Online...... where's the rest of it? lol

Looks like a kit bashed Cardassian and Jem'Haddar ship...

My favourite ships

Is the Jadzia image in the thumbnail a reference to the 2001 Dominion Wars: DS9 PC game? I haven't played it in, well nearly 20 years, but IIRC in the early missions you played Jadzia in command of a Sabre class. I could be wrong. Maybe it was a couple missions later when you played a Steam Runner class ship.

Its the same class of the da vinci its also featured in season 4 ep 10 of lower decks.

Give that thing ablative armour and 50 quantum torpedoes 100 micro photons .and a cloaking device or phasing cloak you got the perfect hit and run ship.

seems the Saber is basically a less-specialized Defiant, and in doing such, graduates from a Monitor-type to a destroyer or destroyer-escort. It has a similar power output to the Defiant, with a little more size for amenities and secondary functions.

I'm not sure about the size thing... did you check out if foward shuttlebays match smaller proportions?

I don't like calling it a destroyer, and the reason is kind of backwards. The reason is, what a destroyer does. The name comes from its job, the Torpedo Boat Destroyer. These ships were built to screen larger ships, protect them from enemy Torpedo boats, and to carry out torpedo runs themselves. Armed with very light guns, their job was to fight ships their own size, and flood the water with torpedoes. During ww2 and beyond, there were 2 classes of ships that mirrored each other, the Destroyer, and the Frigate. Frigates were originally called Destroyer Escorts, listed as DE's or DDE's, they were destroyers, that sacrificed speed, to keep cost down, their job was to run with convoys providing protection from subs and enemy destroyers, though their speed was usually limited to 20-25 knots, (27 in more modern navies). They usually mounted the same firepower as a destroyer, with a slight increase in the ASW focus. No, the Saber class, is something else, its smaller then a destroyer, lighter, faster, its job is to hit and run, get in, do damage with its guns, target enemy destroyers and frigates, and clear the way for friendly destroyers to make their target runs. its... a Corvette. Corvette groups were often lead by a destroyer as their flag ship (where destroyers were lead by a Destroyer leader or light cruiser). While in WW2 corvettes tended to be slower, as they were tasked with escort duty, their prey, the sub was even slower then them, and they could stay on top of a sub for hours, or days. Corvettes always favored speed, maneuverability, stealth, having destroyer sized guns, but lacking the torpedoes. Carrying depth charges, sometimes, mines, and in modern times missiles to engage ships (cuz everything has missiles) they rarely carry more then 8 anti-ship missiles, using their speed to get in fast, engage with their missiles, and then go to guns. To me, this is a saber, screams in with the rest of the fleet several of the, providing phaser cover for the destroyers while they do their torpeode runs on larger ships going after the fighters, the enemy destroyers, the gunboats.

Even though going by size would suggest otherwise, I'd say you should swap the classifications of the Saber and the Defiant classes. The Sabers seem to me to fit the attack ship role better than the Defiant ships as being still pretty small, numerous and useful for light warship duties while the Defiant seems better designed to support larger ships as an escort killer capable of adding worthwhile firepower to the main battle force via its quantum torpedoes and it phaser cannons being more powerful than normal phaser strips.

What I didn't get about the Saber is doesn't seem to have any improvement over the defiant even tho it came after? Does it go faster at warp? Or is it easier to produce? Is it more science mission focused? I will be looking to answer these questions in this video. The deflector dish is bigger then the defiant.

The diagram clearly shows the Sabers warpcorp mounted vertically not horizontol. A minor mistake for a great video.

It's kinda ugly but it's one of my favorite background ship from DS9 and First Contact.

These should have been the Mars defense perimeter. Not those space baloons

Is that a Wasp ? Anyway... The Nova and Saber could be said to share some DNA with the defiant as both of them were part of the earlier version of the project that lead to the Defiant. Perhaps the Saber is more of a "slugger" with it's better armour but that Nova Class USS Equinox took a heck of a pounding from Voyager effectively trying to kill it, while it was already damaged. So I don't think Novas are something one should see being one-hit killed really. I like how Sabers make some attempt to armour or partially obscure the vulnerable parts of the ship. I think they are a ship that you wouldn't want to replace in 20 years either it just seems to fill a niche so well. with a little bit more flexibility to it than a Defiant class. As for size, I guess one has to ask some questions like can it fit a couple of Denube class Runablouts in it's shuttle bay better at the larger size. Or would it be limited to custom shuttles (perhaps something similar to the ones Lower Decks showed in use on the USS Titan). It's a fun model to "swoosh around" too I might add.

One weird thing about the Sabre is every profile looks different to what you'd expect. Front, rear, side....take the Intrepid for example. Much more predictable

Do they use quantum torpedo?

Looks like a Jem hadar attack ship.

Where is that Cardasian ship from?

I want one for this weekend. Road trip.. Anyone else want to come 2?

So what you're saying is it's not really a Destroyer it's more like a Destroyer Escort or a Corvette class warship

Can't we just screenshot the artwork.?

Chip shat

Wait i did not see it in ds9

You spelled "The cannonfodder" wrong

Why don't you just make them bigger come on man just make the federation ships bigger

Why is it so hideous?

Just one thing, your videos can often end rather abruptly and can be quite jarring. You might want to put a few seconds of the video fading to black at the end.

I actually hate the design of this thing! It's ugly as sin, and looks like it was made for mid 90s video games.

I always thought it was Sabre not Saber. Maybe that explains the size differences...two different classes! Haha