Oh! So Thanaton starts out as a slave, but when I start to gain power, he gets all uppity!

One of the few instances were I knew next to nothing about one of the characters. I was unfamiliar with Kel, which is unusual as the Old Republic era is my most favored. As I've told you before, these more obscure match ups are the ones I tend to get the most enjoyment out of. While I'm no fan of TCW Lair of Grievous was probably one of the better episodes that there was and was in my opinion among the most well animated of the early season episodes, so seeing Nahdar was nice. Very much enjoyed the video.

I like the suggested storyline you laid out for Vebb, but I would have liked it if it included him replacing Bariss Offee as the culprit for bombing the Jedi Temple, possibly bringing Fisto into the mix rather than have Anakin and Ahsoka be the main focus for the millionth time. While the fight between Ahsoka and "Ventress" was really epic, Fisto vs. Vebb did have some potential as one of the best fights in the show.

I think Jensaari's TCW story arc would have actually been better than what was presented in TCW itself. This would have allowed the character's in those specific episodes like General Krell to be used later in possibly a different story arc.

That new arch for Vebb is really interesting and I would love to have seen that. Throw in a fight with Fisto and that would defiantly be in my top 3 characters of that era. That would definitely get me to watch rebels.

Your Veeb storyline is my new head canon.

Hearing your take on how Nahdar would've been used in TCW has me wonder...would you and the others in the Forcecast group consider making an episode all about the best ideas from each of you for that kind of setup?

Promising the power and strength to change the outcome of the war, Nahdar pledged himself to the dark side and notably acted as an agent of Palpatine's will during the Battle of Umbara. However, Vebb's reckless endangerment of the 501st during the battle, including a deception that pitted the elements of the 501st against the 212th, led Clone Captain Rex to lead a coup against the general. Cornered and outed as a traitor by the clones Vebb attempted to escape only to eventually be recaptured despite heavy casualties to both clone units involved. Unwilling to accept a powerful and "enlightened" Jedi such as himself could humbled by clones, Nahdarr broke. Spouting rhetoric pertaining to "a coming shadow", "the new order" and "the end of the Jedi". Declared mad and expelled from the Jedi Order, Nahdarr was subsequently imprisoned on order of the Chancellor and any attempt of the Jedi to question him was stone walled by the justice system +Jensaarai1 Pretty close?

Been waiting for this one! :)

I never knew Thanaton's backstory, Thanks for the enlightenment. In a way he parallels Kallig/Darth Nox they both were slaves that eventually rose to the Dark Council by killing a member. Both of their masters were apprehended by a failed power grab. It's disappointing how his life ended would've been cool if Nox can work side by side or over him.

Your Vebb Story arc does sound really awesome! This would make Vebb the first Star Wars Character to be designed for one TV Show and then be brought into another, preceeding Ashoka and Rex. Would the Inquisitor Vebb also have survived Kanan's rescue?

That's honestly an interesting rewrite of Veb's arc.

Always love me some minor characters, and your work is always excellent. Kudos for another great versus!

wait.. darth thanathon? so he is the one that trys to kill you in the sith inquisitor story line for being an aprentice of a ¨fallen¨sith? mmmm

I think this is my new favorite VS video ever! i love the lesser known characters, as i didn't already have a theory of my own, and was extremely surprised by the complexity and depth of both Teneb Kel and Nahdar Vebb!

I think this is some of your best work yet. Your diction was strong and rose during the pivotal points of your presentation, giving it much more gravitas and drama. The editing was tight and the musical choices felt entirely fitting and succinct. I also appreciated the ending, it was interesting to have an overview of the winners exploits.

I really like your idea for Nahdar's possible story arch and would like more of a "geek rant-esque~" video on it. Very enjoyable video and your production value is getting much better.

Awesome video and awesome theory. That would have been a great through line. Two minor nitpicks: In Lair of Grievous Nahdar cares about the soldiers under his command and he values their safety. It seems a little weird that he would later set them up to kill each other in the Umbara arc unless he's given a reason to hate clones. It just seemed a little weird but hey characters have switched characters more abruptly. Also while the story is great I feel it would have been even cooler if Pong Krell was the apprentice of Kit Fisto who becomes disillusioned to the order and defects to Sidious and later becomes the Inquisitor(Though Kanan and Ezra wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating him). I think it would make sense and it would combine the cool factor with the great storytelling. Great video regardless just throwing in my own two cents. What do you think?

Was not expecting this vid but glad you made it can't wait for the outcome

I love how the Versus Series are starting to use more and more Old Republic characters can't wait to see Lord Scourge Vs. Rahm Kota thanks for all the hard work from all of you versus series makers

Sweet, you've added your used tracks to the credits, that solves some questions immediately~

My favourite for a long time by you. Which is really hard as I really rate nearly all of your videos as the best on KZfaq [in the terms of star was versus videos]. Keep up the amazing work mate!

While your theory on how Nahdar may have gone on to be the Inquisitor is impressive, there's a few drawbacks: 1. Nahdar's aggression may have first developed from the first Battle of Mon Calamari, in which his people suffered under the Quarren Isolation League. Fisto fought against those guys and won the day, so I imagine that Nahdar would've been grateful to his former master. 2. Nahdar once apologized to Fisto for getting "carried away." 3. Fisto noted that Nahdar died with his heart in the right place. Indeed, in spite of his lust for vengeance, he sacrificed his life so Fisto could escape. 4. The Empire has its reservations about allowing aliens in its ranks, though Pau'ans aren't exactly an issue. I've read about an Imperial Pau'an who interrogated Princess Leia in _Rebel Force: Hostage_, so I guess the Inquisitor wasn't the only one. In Grievous' defense, he may have wanted to see what Nahdar could do against his guards solo before confronting him. The lightsaber forms were embedded into his brain to allow him some knowledge about his adversary, as _Labyrinth of Evil_ can testify. And Tyranus taught him something about using subtlety as well as "fear, surprise, and intimidation." All in all, I love the analysis of this latest video. Here are what I have in mind for future match-ups: *Depa Billaba vs. Anakin Skywalker: Will the Chosen One want another Council member's death on his conscience, like what happened to Yaddle in _Jedi Quest: The Shadow Trap_? *Ferus Olin vs. Asajj Ventress: How would Anakin's arch rival fare against Tyranus' protege? *Aurra Sing vs. Xanatos

You gave me the shivers of excitement when you explained what could've happened to Nadar, as always you are a true Star Wars fan, looking not only into the mythology and who the characters are but how they interact with their world and what they can do. I'm definitely excited to see what the next installment brings us.

I enjoy the short story you talked about with Nahdar Vebb should been like, in the clone wars and Rebels.

DON'T MAKE ME DESTROY YOU! - Nahdar Vebb's final words.

I liked and faved after you hypothetical story arc. The dangers of not planning out your story is one learnt the hard way..

I agree with your assessment of the animated series treatments of Nahdar Vebb and other little characters that could have been bigger than they were portrayed story wise.

Didn't see this coming. That's the best part of your videos; we don't know what's coming up next.

Your version of Nahdar's character is total genius! I believe that Rebels shouldn't fart out new inquisitors.

Good video, really enjoy Teneb Kel's character.

Hey this was definitely a good video with characters people don't usually used.

Teneb Kel is the closest to my larp. Only addition is my academic study of makashi. Son of Nial Declan. Librarian/secret apprentice to Sidious. Sidious instructs him in Niman and the greater mysteries of the force. His study of Makashi is purely academic, and an admiration of the Sith of the Old Republic.

Awesome I've been wanting to see one with Kel used.

I applaud your ability to use characters that do not get much exposure. Can not wait to see who you pit against each other next.

Aww man I really want to see one with Darth Baras now. I loved every second of this VS and Baras has had an extensive background in both force and lightsaber combat besting many Jedi and also being bested. Would love to see your take on him.

love it is was awesome and thanks because it gives me more knowledge of star wars, please make more i eat this videos quickly.

You're back! :D

To be fair TCW writers sort of just did what George wanted so I don't think you can really blame them for not planning things out when clearly George didn't do that very well in his later years when working on the PT. I think Georges absence is very clear in Rebels because it really does feel like the story is going somewhere and that they are in fact world building.

You should try Exar Kun vs Count Dooku. The match up on the surface looks pretty even, and I'm interested in someone's informed opinion on it.

This was unexpected Jensaarai, not that I'm complaining. I'm liking the new characters. Great analysis, great editing, and really good song choices. Though I don't agree with the Physical Abilities edge. It was very well-handled and is quickly becoming one of my favorite VS videos. Well done!

This match up was unexpected, and I was kinda glad you used Nahdar Vebb. I like the way you give extremely underrated characters justice. I have one question: when will you be using Traya and Windu? The anticipation is overwhelming! I have one suggestion: Darth Plagueis vs Darth Bane.

Thanks for the video Jensaarai!

Also congrats on 30k subs

I love tcw but your arc for Vebb is amazing

If possible could you do an episode with Darth Nihilus?

that would actually be a great story arc

My friend can you do Darth Sidious vs Darth Tyranus ?

Well done. Have you considered doing Githany vs Lumiya vs Nomi Sunrider?

a idea for your next versus could be luke skywalker vs darth bane

Blew my damn mind in under eighty-five seconds. Ah, the Sith Inquisitor campaign. Going light-side during that provides hilarity only surpassed by being the Light-Side Emperors Wrath.

Hey could it be posible that you would make a video of teneb kel vs starkiller I think they are some what a match for one another cool vid by the way

Nice work..Suggestion: Empatojayos Brand vs. either Lumiya or Savage Oppress

hey if you have time jensaarai would you be willing to d a video that would improve the story of TCW and Rebels characters like just like explanations of what you would have done with each character that you saw( not every single one, but the ones that were created for the clone wars and rebels) and really you dont have to do rebels right away but it would be cool to see more on clone wars. like you did with nahdar vebb, but do it with like pong krell, (idk your take on Hondo, but i do like how hondo is.), savage opress, mother talzan, and any others you would like to do. i would like to see it how you would improve alot of these characters. if you even want to do asoka that would be cool and fine. and also what characters you actually like how they turned out. like some of the clones turned out great id say but i would like to see what ones you would have improved on as well.

also another idea of a vidoe is having instaed of who went to take on darth sidious,(other than mace windu.) who would have been best with facing him and all or amajority who would survive?

Have you thought about possibly starting an account on Fanfiction.net? There, you could take a lot of your opinions of the Clone Wars series and write your own versions of them to build a better story and tie it into the Legends continuity of Star Wars. Like Nahdar Vebb's possible character progression outlined in this video, and creating a better story for Savage Opress.

We still might get the Vebb arc you proposed, only with Barriss.

Can you do Darth thanaton and Darth bane vs obi wan Kenobi and anakin

another great video

+Jensaarai1 could you please pump up the uploading volume? i have to put you on speakers to watch you. Love your work bro

I would like to hear your thoughts on a Teneb Kel vs Darth Zannah, or vs Darth Wyylock III, or all the vs each other.I've watched a lot of these vs from your channel and other channels and it seems that normally whoever is the better lightsaber wielder wins the fight. But with these 3 Sith none of them are that great at wielding it instead they more heavily rely on The Force.

Jensaarai I know this is wrong video but I was wanting to speak out towards the feelings you had for continuity errors for example how in some sources Darth Bane had a purple lightsaber and in others it was red and in other sources it's red with a curved handle. as I see it as history being told from different points of view I wanted to know how you felt about continuity errors and to also tell you that I loved the movies but it was the novels about the old republic especially the Darth Bane trilogy that made me completely fall in love with EU I love your videos absolutely and please continue them

Awesome matchup! Okay, this may seem weird but I really want to write a fanfiction of that arc idea you have for Vebb. Can I do so if I credit you with the idea?

Do you still do requests? If so, can you do An'ya Kuro vs Asajj Venteress please?

Can you please do Darth Nox Kallig vs Darth Malak?

Hello jensaarai, I want to start by saying that I'm a huge fan of your vs series. You're the first of all your collaborative friends I've watched, and the only one in currently subscribed to. Anyway, I'm trying to start my own vs series. I understand totally and completely if you don't, but I would appreciate it if you give me advice as to where to start, because I've never done anything on KZfaq before, and I think I'd barely be seen even if I did put anything up. Again, I don't really expect you to reply, but regardless, keep being awesome:)

3:30... dude, you're right. That story arc could've been epic, and your take on it is pretty on point. Although this is a great video, I do have one question though. In your previous versus vids, you said that the form V variant of shien could be used as a form of lightsaber combat. I was wondering how, seeing as it was designed for blast deflection. Is there any difference in approach/ style when compared to that of Djem So when used in lightsaber to lightsaber combat?

Great to see teneb/thanaton getting some exposure great video

Would you please do a contest between emperor vititate and naga sadow? That would be a dark side battle for the ages.

Been meaning to ask this : is your avatar fan art or an EU character? Also Cade Skywalker vs Darth Caedus

Hey, is it possible for a versus series with Khem Val? I would like to see non jedi/sith in more than a few matches.

I was wondering if I could make a request. me and a friend were wondering who would win between Mace and Vader. could you do a video of that please? if not, that's cool.

Off topic, but what is the music you use in this video?. very nice

Where is Scourge vs Kota? Good video.

Also, I'm interested with your Vision for Vebb, but I really enjoyed Pong Krell nonetheless. To each his own I guess. Anyway, keep up the solid work and I also have autism.

quick question Jensaarai1 do you keep count of which character has one the most star wars VS videos? and also would you ever be willing to do a colaboration tournament with Grey Jedi,Reti4,Evan Nova and Antoine Bandelee?

heres a good one Rakata empire vs the yuuzhan vong empire round 1 species round 2 military power round 3 achievments and tecnology

I like the use of underrated characters but here is a match up I think you would like and a cat fight that would I love to see Shaak Ti vs Asajj Ventress both of them masters of makashi,and ataru,with a working knowledge jar'kal and both able to give Grievous a hard time. I hope you do it one day.

Jensaarai1, how do you feel about Exar Kun and Ulic Quel Droma vs. Dark Lady Lumiya and Sedriss?

you should be a novelist that would be awesome and teneb kel I probably how I would look as a sith

Can we use Darth Thanaton in a versus battle? That would be really cool. Don't know who to put him up against though. Maybe Volfe?

Are you ever going to add kylo ren to your vs series? Not too many people can disect Jedi and sith or force users the way you can and I would love to see it.

+Jensaarai1 one matchup I really, really, really want you to do is Anakin Skywalker vs Mace Windu. I imagine it being set up in the same way your The Battlemaster vs The Berserker was depicted, as both characters are dedicated lightsaber duelists and martial artists, with the verdict being dictated on their skills in that area. Also, I hope you and the others decide to do book reviews on books from the Legends Expanded Universe, and may I suggest TOR: Deceived and ShatterPojnt as possible candidates? Love your videos and May the Force be with you always. :)

What happened with that Lord Scourge vs. Rahm Kota video?

looking at Teneb Kel, I have to admit i'd like to see what he would have been capable of if he'd been either Bane's or Sidious's apprentice.

you are right about tcw writers. they still had unfinished storylines that would have been perfect and awesome!

the clone wars series could have been amazing. i think the problem with it was that they needed episodes and story arks to come to completion within a couple episodes in order to apeal to younger audiences

I like how very little running *running away* Kel did in this. I suppose I'm a bit old fashioned, but when someone challenges me to a duel to the death, I expect them to have the common decency of sticking around for it. That said, This was an excellent match up, and I came out of it with a new appreciation for Vebb. Well done, sir.

Cool stuff here!

Could you do darth bane vs exar kun

hey Jensaarai would u ever consider using Corran Horn in ur versus I would love to see ur analysis of him

Just wondering, what are your credentials for being able to write a story better then the writers of SWTCW? It's one thing to correct a story and revise it, and a whole other to actually write a decent story throughout and be able to keep its continuity in order. The episode Nahdar stared in was an episode from season 1, which at the time the producer's probably didn't know if the show would continue and for how long, especially when this was only half way through the series. I would of loved Nahdar surviving, but understand what the theme of the story was and why it needed to happen.

Let's see a Satele Shan VS Count Dooku video!

How about Revan vs Anakin skywalker or general krell vs General Grieves

Interesting idea with Vebb - that could have been an excellent character arc.

Great versus! Just curious but did you use young Teneb Kel instead of Thanaton to give Nahdar Vebb a shot? While I haven't read and books featuring Kel, from what I saw in SWTOR, Thanaton would destroy Vebb no contest.

how is this even fair? Teneb becomes a dark council member and nahdar veb becomes a cocky stupid jedi night

Given the Scourge vs. Rahm Kota preview that's still up, and the fact that Kel and Vebb are both characters that pretty much no one cares about, I honestly felt like you trolled us with this video. Anyone who sees Vebb's name in a versus match is going to assume he gets crushed.

I like the videos of the "obscure characters" more than the "main characters". You're Darth Malek V.s. Yoda is great, but we know the main characters a lot, I like to learn about the characters I'm not familiar with more.

Already suggested this character a few times but i would love to see a bout with the Imperial Knight Treis Sinde. A man of advanced years and profound experience that finds himself in the odd position of being well respected for his skill and wisdom but nonetheless being a maverick to his order for his unusual philosophies and actions. Qui-Gon, Plo Koon or (if you're feeling particularly mean) Count Dooku would be good matches. I find the idea of a moderate maverick among hard liners going up against a hard liner maverick among moderates entertaining for some reason.