Versus Series: Ulic Qel-Droma vs Luke Skywalker

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Rob Terra

Rob Terra

5 жыл бұрын

Wanted to thank you all for the support on these videos since season 3 began. Season 2 finale will be out next and classes are finishing soon and I will have all the time in the world to complete that project. Anyway's as stated earlier in the video Originally I planned to use ROTJ Luke but as I did more research I found the match up to be very one sided as Ulic is a very formidable warrior. Instead we will be looking at him during the events of Dark Empire. But with out further ado I am pleased to present The War Hammer Ulic Qel-Droma vs The Prodigal Son Luke Skywalker!
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@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter Everyone! Hope you enjoy this beast!
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter I enjoy the vids u make
@toasterstruddlegamez4734
@toasterstruddlegamez4734 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter to you too
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
dragon ball talk thanks bro!
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Toaster Struddle Gamez thanks toast!!
@dimond360_
@dimond360_ 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bro you okay it’s been about a month just checking to see if your good
@MrSupertallblackman
@MrSupertallblackman 5 жыл бұрын
Actually Anakin's lightsaber showed back up in the Thrawn trilogy in the hands of Luke's clone Luuke and then he gave it to his wife Mara Jade
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
MrSupertallblackman good catch lol
@javierlopez9789
@javierlopez9789 4 жыл бұрын
And then it stayed as a relic on The jedi temple of Yavin IV along With Obi Wan's lightsaber and R2 in The legacy era
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm Ай бұрын
​@@javierlopez9789hold up! How the hell did they ever get Obi-Wan's lightsaber???
@darklord7289
@darklord7289 5 жыл бұрын
Great matchup, i've always felt that Ulic has ofter been a bit underrated within the star wars VS community . i would love to see Anakin Skywalker VS Plo Koon.
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Might be able to do that next season
@dimond360_
@dimond360_ 4 жыл бұрын
It would be cool since they’re the two most notable users of the different ways to use Djem so. Anakin being beat the crap out of you mode where plo try’s to be immovable.
@darklord7289
@darklord7289 4 жыл бұрын
@@dimond360_ Yeah , where Plo is unmovable Object , Anakin is the unstoppable force. Honestly , it is so close to call it in my mind. On on side i see Plo is smarter and more well rounded , but on the other hand, Anakin is so dominant , powerful and agressive . If i was forced to make a a decision, i would see Anakin making more mistakes in the long run , but he would dig in deep within the force and unleash Plo with his powerful and unrelenting onslaught that it would pressure Plo and considering Anakin is much more willing to mix in unarmed combat , greater physicality and stamina. where Plo would look for the best time to strike , Anakin would trying to end it immediately on his terms, and with a devistating strike or with a powerful use of his force abilities, Anakin would win.
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 3 жыл бұрын
@@darklord7289 Plo has been shown more willing to use his force abilities than anakin, who is very straightforward with the Force. Plo is also much more varied. anakin is more powerful, but Plo is more skilled and tactically viable. He is also the better duelist. While Anakin may be more skilled, Plo's fighting style is much more well rounded. his Djem So defense is credited to being very comparable, if not as good as Kenobi's Soresu defense. Plo would win not due to any inherent skill or power, but due to how he uses his abilities, his tactics. He is far more tactically viable than Anakin, whose entire approach to combat is very straightforward. Effective for what it is, but he has hardly ever been creative, has he? I declare Anakin the blooded corpse on the ground, and Jedi Master Plo Koon, the victor.
@nathanmontgomery1516
@nathanmontgomery1516 3 жыл бұрын
@@kirillzakharov7336 hell no the screenwriters literally scaled plo koon below anakin the same person who blitzed dooku. Why do you think plo koon would win against a more powerful anakin
@toasterstruddlegamez4734
@toasterstruddlegamez4734 5 жыл бұрын
I'm speechless I'm in tears right now your versus get better and better keep it up
@kylemc2290
@kylemc2290 5 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to see this matchup analyzed for years ever since I first read dark empire. Bravo Rob.
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
KyleMC 22 thanks for checking out the video! Hope you enjoyed :)
@kylemc2290
@kylemc2290 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobTerra I did, loved every second of it.
@poppasquat8299
@poppasquat8299 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for pointing out that Anakin/Luke's lightsaber ending up in takodana is dumb. Another awesome matchup, keep it up!
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Haha it needed to be pointed out!! And thanks for watching :)
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm Ай бұрын
​@@RobTerra100% Agreed
@DropkickNation
@DropkickNation Жыл бұрын
100% agree with you on Ulic, bud. After re reading TOTJ recently, he never gets the credit he deserves. He is easily among the greatest Jedi of his time and a fair match up against many great names in history. I always wanted to see him vs. Plo Koon or even Anakin. Good stuff.
@TinyTorah
@TinyTorah 5 жыл бұрын
8:53, he did that with TK, not with brute strength. That said, due to his species' physiology, Toq very likely was physically stronger than even a rather large and muscular human, so, while not as impressive as you thought, Ulic needing 3 Jedi to physically restrain him is notable. I will say however that nowhere in the comic, neither in the pictures or text does it indicate it NECESSITATING all 3 Jedi to pin him down; we ultimately don't know if it quite required all 3 of them to do so. Still, Ulic does indeed have plenty of other strength and physical feats in general that make this one moot either way. 15:02, yeah... with the help of 6 other Jedi. Kind of an important piece of information you just left out. XD Yeah, DE Luke definitely wins, but I agree it's with difficulty. Nice job!
@amysargent4237
@amysargent4237 2 жыл бұрын
22:43 Actually, That lightsaber wasn't lost for good in Legends either. Neither was his lost arm, since both were used to create The Luuke Skywalker clone in The Original Thrawn Trilogy. While I also do wish they explained the saber's recovery in The Force Awakens more better, i'm just saying that the lightsaber was ALSO recovered, and used again in Legends as well.
@Priceluked
@Priceluked 5 ай бұрын
Old comment but to add that Mara Jade would use Anakin’s old lightsaber till the end of her life after being to her by Luke himself.
@ethanmaldonado4017
@ethanmaldonado4017 3 жыл бұрын
I think DE Luke is extremely underrated, he should be solidly above ROTJ Luke, who arguably beats Ulic. Maybe Ulic has a chance with sabers without augmentation, but other than that I think this would be a mismatch.
@DropkickNation
@DropkickNation Жыл бұрын
Duuude. ROTJ Luke is barely low level master. He is just a talented knight at that point. Ulic is 100% above him in that time. He is one of the greats of his time and easily mid grandmaster level.
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 Жыл бұрын
Luke quite literally got annihilated by Sidious in seconds in Dark Empire on equal ground. He had to have the help of his also-insanely-powerful-Skywalker-blooded-sister’s battle mediation amping him up to an insane degree to best him. And even then he was barely able to do so…. When it was just the 2 of them toe-to-toe, Sidious disarmed him and had him on the ground at bladepoint in seconds. Yeah he’s powerful af by that point he was at his physical peak; but his skill level & control had not caught UP to his power level yet; not like it had by the time he reached Grandmaster level during/by the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War.
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm
@RevengeOfTheNetherrealm Ай бұрын
​@@dazdavis7896so damn what
@gustavserrander9268
@gustavserrander9268 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Rob
@ForklifterMatt
@ForklifterMatt 5 жыл бұрын
An absolute masterpiece of a VS video Rob! Your constant improvements of your analysis', editing, and overall presentation is phenomenal. The little bits of integrated humor is amazingly well done. It's just an absolutely perfect video. Can't wait for more.
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks brotha! Can't wait to see what you have got planned as well!
@blackmarketgamingTheLukaski
@blackmarketgamingTheLukaski 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very good rhetorical video and looking back at previous videos, your research and the video itself gets better and better. I’m wondering whether you can do a video on this matchup as I think this would be interesting. Darth Baras vs Obi Wan Kenobi
@callmetopgun45
@callmetopgun45 4 жыл бұрын
He literally did this 😂😂
@TheKalashnikova47
@TheKalashnikova47 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! It is mark hamill after all😉. Great video .
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 5 жыл бұрын
I like these long good vids.Can u try and make a video with strong ancient sith vs doctor doom or reylo..yep both them
@andykrause1803
@andykrause1803 2 жыл бұрын
Your a genius
@thepancakespy2355
@thepancakespy2355 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t mean to be a pain but as everyone is asking when do you think your next video will be out
@jbdougy9290
@jbdougy9290 4 жыл бұрын
Our guy Jensaarai1 is BAAAAAAAAAACK!!!
@kitn2507
@kitn2507 3 жыл бұрын
Channels mixed up?
@zackthezabarak739
@zackthezabarak739 3 жыл бұрын
Adi Gallia Vs Quinlan Vos: these two are actually a very good match in my opinion. Gallia has managed to stalemate Grevious in their first duel and while she lost her second she survived. She was killed by Savage Opress but still acquitted herself well. Quinlan defeated sora Bulq and Volfee Karkko both with the Force spiritual aid of others. He beat K’kruhk, Ayala Secura, Tholme , Scurge, and random zabrak dark Jedi. He lost to Mace Windu/Count Dooku/ Agen Kolar. Gallia has faced only high caliber duelists where Vos has faced varies fighter types and levels. Gallia admittedly fared better against these high tier foes than Vos but Vos survived and learned. Gallia is slightly better than Vos but Vos survived meaner fighters than her and I think it’s a fun match up.
@lovefrompraha
@lovefrompraha 4 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to use characters like Lord Starkiller, who is pretty much the fully fleshed out and trained version of his younger self? He supposedly mastered his lightsaber forms, and like Vader, became more capable in the force. Alternate versions of characters or characters without thought to actual lore are criminally underused, as are lesser known characters. Such as Vitiate/Valkorion, Lord Starkiller, SoR Revan, Vaylin, Lanoree Brock and other Dawn of the Jedi characters like Xesh, SWTOR characters in general, the criminally misunderstood Darth Malak by most vs video creators, Ahsoka, and countless others. I appreciate it man, great content 👍
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching dude! And I have thought about lord starkiller in the past as well as swtor characters such as vaylin and Darth Baras. Got some cool ideas for them keep an eye out ;)
@lovefrompraha
@lovefrompraha 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobTerra hell yeah. Honestly I'm surprised at the lack of thirst over Mail, Ahsoka, etc after the show ended. Let alone unheard of characters. Lanoree Brock out Xesh vs someone would definitely be good examples. I'm also surprised Valkorion is still thought of as being some crap Sith Lord when he's pretty much ancient Sidious
@geordierobinson2315
@geordierobinson2315 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty analysis. OOF that's a toughie. Grandmaster Luke won the power creep lottery and is probably #1 star wars character in combat. But dark empire Luke against full experience cal droma... I'm gonna go with droma. Most of Luke's experience is against power duelists and while he did pretty well against palpatine I reckon droma's combo of power speed and experience can top him.
@Burgess54
@Burgess54 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do Mace Windu vs. Revan?
@akamerino
@akamerino 4 жыл бұрын
This battle is an insult for revan...
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 3 жыл бұрын
@Wes Bradley-Taubner assuming Revan's Force Lightning is powerful enough to overwhelm Windu's lightsaber, which it is not. If Sidius, whose lightning is more powerful than Revan's, if only a bit, could not overwhelm Windu's lightsaber, then Revan's cant either. Windu's TK is comparable to Revan's, Revan possibly being more powerful. Revan would, of course, get the Force edge, but Windu would get the physical edge and definitely get the Martial Arts edge. So, the question is, can Revan's superior Force abilities beat Windu's superior physical abilities and lightsaber abilities? It's possible, but unlikely. Revan could, and would definitely give Windu a very hard time with the Force, and as a duelist as well. However, that would be as far as it went for him. Eventually, Windu would overwhelm his lightsaber defenses and cut him down.
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 3 жыл бұрын
@Wes Bradley-Taubner I don't think he would be able to. Mace can at least contend
@nathanmontgomery1516
@nathanmontgomery1516 3 жыл бұрын
@Wes Bradley-Taubner you have a massive bias for the old republic if reven who couldn’t defeat a weaker vitiate who later became stronger in the dlc why would he defeat mace who disarmed sidious who killed a bunch a Jedi council
@lv0337
@lv0337 3 жыл бұрын
Mace is on the same level as Sidious. I believe he wins.
@brianjordan3841
@brianjordan3841 Ай бұрын
Thank u god 4 calling out that bullshit on The Last Jedi
@baoanhnguyen9186
@baoanhnguyen9186 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this, but I felt this is a bit of a mismatch. I see that you are using DE Luke Skywalker, who is very much Yoda's peer (I'd place DE Luke in low to mid tier 1).
@sacredbeastzenon
@sacredbeastzenon 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. I have to disagree. Palpatine states that he and Luke have both gotten far stronger than when they were aboard the Death Star 2. If Dark Empire Luke can contend with an even greater version of Palpatine. I don't see how Ulic Qel-Droma has any chance.
@JonP1245
@JonP1245 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DropkickNation
@DropkickNation Жыл бұрын
Contend is the word. Luke growing stronger since RTOJ doesn't mean that he already is on the level of Sidious during that time period. Plus Sidious always had a way to play things up. Don't lowball Ulic. Dude fought on equal terms with Exar Kun and pretty much beat every other big name during his time period.
@zackthezabarak739
@zackthezabarak739 3 жыл бұрын
Antares Draco vs Lucien Draay. Darth Azard vs Cay Qel Droma. Wolf Sazen vs Anakin Skywalker.( preferably Padawan Anakin as it’s a closer match but Knight Anakin would also be fun) Arcann vs Darth Malgus. Darth Sion vs Darth Marr. Darth Nihl vs Ki Adi Mundi. Plo Koon vs Celeste Morne. Sylvar vs Aryn Leneer. Cao Cen Darach vs Sora Bulq. Ven Zallow vs Wolf Sazen. Agen Kolar vs Savage Opress. A’Sharad Hett vs Mara Jade ( Dark Empire)
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 4 жыл бұрын
did droma ever have to endure force lightning? Luke survived Palpy's focused barrage, and his survival on Hoth is on the same level as Droma's survival under the snow collapse. in addition, luke was able to match dark empire darth sidius, who is just on another level compared to exar kun. its fair to say that Luke is actually stronger than droma.
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 2 жыл бұрын
Luke is not a “strength based power duelist” by any stretch at all. He was a Shien variant user, not Djem so; he mainly used forms 3/4/5/7 and then the strong/medium/fast styles he helped Kyle Katarn create. His form was a hybrid; or rather he just switched back n forth between said forms to fit whatever situation he was in, and to confuse his opponents-he’d use form 3’s tight defense and bladework to block & form 5 to counter and press the offensive that way, or he’d just attack with form 7 and the acrobatics & footwork of form 4. Throwing in the strong style offensive attacks or fast style defense maneuvers to shift things up and further confuse them…. And he was FAR more based on speed than strength. His speed WAS his strength. He was one of the fastest (or at least quickest) combatants in the ‘verse.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. In Legends and Canon, Luke utilized djem so by with his duels with his father
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 Жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 No, NOT “Incorrect”…. Like I SAID, he is a HYBRIDIZED fighter. Look it up yourself and stop just repeating something you’ve heard from some other random video that has no clue what they’re talking about. His form is a hybrid form; he is NOT a pure form 5/Djem So user at all. He may have imitated his fathers use of Djem So in ROTJ-BUT HE WAS JUST SWINGING FOR THE FENCES WHEN HE GOT PISSED OFF lol, that’s it.. ALL power strikes do not just instantly equate to Djem So usage; they could also easily be forms 1, 7, or strong style attacks…. He quite literally did not even know what Djem So or form 5 WAS at the time. The 7 classic forms were not even fully rediscovered by Luke until a year before the Vong War in 24ABY. The Jedi he trained either utilized the 3-Rings (a hybrid tutorial style that could also be taken to an advanced degree when mastered, like in the case of Corran Horn, Jacen & Jaina, or to a slightly lesser degree Kyp Durron) or the strong/medium/fast styles crafted by Kyle Katarn (with his help) after he appointed him battlemaster. It would’ve taken years to relearn and then actually remaster the 7 classic forms after rediscovering them.. The only forms Luke was actually taught by Kenobi & Yoda were forms 1 & 4 respectively. That’s it. And he only learned the basics of each…. And then he just IMITATED his father’s form 5 usage from his fights with him. But he was absolutely NOT a pure Djem so specialist at all; not like his father was. He was a Shien variant user, but he utilized a hybrid style; or rather he just switched back n forth between the aforementioned forms he uses to fit any situation he found himself in and to confuse his opponents.
@highground2713
@highground2713 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna see Anakin during his fight against Obi Wan vs Dark Empire Luke Skywalker during his first fight against cloned Palpatine
@Alarcj7
@Alarcj7 3 жыл бұрын
Bye, bye, Anakin.
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 3 жыл бұрын
@@Alarcj7 ye
@HankTank81
@HankTank81 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah anakin isn’t beating anyone that can beat palps
@leseratte3546
@leseratte3546 4 жыл бұрын
Qui gon jinn vs Agen kolar
@lovefrompraha
@lovefrompraha 5 жыл бұрын
Totally unrelated to the video question. Someone please explain to me why Old Republic era characters get so horrifically lowballed in VS matchups. I just read something about Malak basically being lower than Obi-wan in force ability, less physically capable than Maul, and basically a worse duelist than someone like Ahsoka. I've read that Dooku would just absolutely shit house Revan, which, if you've played SWTOR at all, you know that is comical as shit. Or that Valkorian would be Sidious' bitch, when in canon, Sidious has no where even remotely close to the feats that Valkorian has. I've read that the Outlander, Arcann, etc are no match for someone like Obi-wan despite having 10 times the experience and superior opponents. And various other examples. Someone PLEASE explain this to me.
@ahmadabdul-ghaffar4540
@ahmadabdul-ghaffar4540 5 жыл бұрын
while i could buy by malak being an inferior to kenobi in swords man ship that is pretty much the absoloute majority of the entire methos kenobi cannot be beaten by the blade even windu and dooku defeat him using the force kenobi is prodigous with that too just not to the same level as his light saber dueling but Asoka and maul are no match for malak
@Wright805
@Wright805 3 жыл бұрын
It's a combination of A) Most people are just more familiar with movie-era characters. B) Old Republic characters overall have less "screen-time" meaning fewer showings of their abilities. C) People taking statements like the PT movies were the "Prime era of the Jedi" WAY too literally. D) Most KOTOR/TOR characters feats are mainly gameplay so it's hard to pin down exactly how they went. You watch a movie and you can see exactly how a fight goes. By contrast with say, Emperor's Wrath vs. Darth Baras, sure we know who won, but what are the details? Was it a sound defeat or did the Wrath just narrowly edge him out?
@HankTank81
@HankTank81 3 жыл бұрын
Although I’m not too familiar with legends (most or all of my knowledge coming from these kinds of videos) I think it’s been stated multiple places that sidious became the most powerful site in the history of the galaxy. I don’t know enough to judge the revan and Malak ones tho
@lovefrompraha
@lovefrompraha 3 жыл бұрын
@@HankTank81 according to Lucas, like 20 years ago, who has said several times he doesn't like, or pay any attention to the other material not related specifically to what he made. And any time he gets asked questions he just makes it up on the spot like yeah sure, that totally happened. I get the word of God stuff, but he doesn't know shit about the extended universe and has no claim that anything is anything outside his own original content 🤷🏻‍♂️. Let alone with a claim he made like 20+ years ago.
@alexfelix5533
@alexfelix5533 4 жыл бұрын
Well actually in legends he found it again but just retired it
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 4 жыл бұрын
kyp durron vs darth sidious pls
@kirillzakharov7336
@kirillzakharov7336 3 жыл бұрын
I think not. Kyp is stronger, just as fast as Palprotein, far more resilient, younger, and is a committed martial artist, while Palprotein is old, frail, and his lightsaber technique is kinda shoddy. And while Palprotein is more powerful with the Force, Durron can defend himself quite well. His tutuminis is powerful enough to absorb lightning, and he can also use his lightsaber. Then, his TK is comparable to that of his foe. Sure, Durron can't overwhelm Palprotein with just the force, but he doesn't have to. And while Palprotein will land a few hits, Kyp will just endure, and then use his considerable physical and martial advantages to grind his foe down.
@ancientone2926
@ancientone2926 3 жыл бұрын
Sidious obviously.
@ancientone2926
@ancientone2926 3 жыл бұрын
@Emperor Vowrawn Sorry bro but quotes don't fit you.
@Aaron-rc4lp
@Aaron-rc4lp 3 жыл бұрын
I like these versus videos but this one I can't do cuzz the narrator's voice just gets on my nerves
@RadojicicDusan
@RadojicicDusan 4 жыл бұрын
Why you talk so quite? I dont understand.
@lv0337
@lv0337 3 жыл бұрын
Luke wins. I wasn't so impressed by Ulic.
@arkadiuszstanisaw5285
@arkadiuszstanisaw5285 4 жыл бұрын
Urlic was better
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