In the long run as well, maybe the devs will actually try and fix up many of the problems and improve/remove systems

@@Chickensea10truee

and the ridiculous storage of ZZZ makes me not wanting to play the game

Also releasing 1.1 with Jinhsi before ZZZ

​@@ilovealmondtofu4726 It is lol, even open world gatcha games like Genshin and Wuwa have less size. They really should've went with the HSR direction with this game but stayed with their art style and improved their gameplay

Yeah this is me, its why I drop most games that has characters as well characters, if I don't get to play the character I want on the get go specially on games like these I just don't feel motivated, its like being forced to play as a swordsman when you've been wanting to play as a wizard.

This a standard in many gacha games it's just genshin normalize their shitty practice

They did give you Corin for free she's a free A rank Other than that it's the classic stingy hoyo game

wow, why ?

Currently 3.3 and rising The game not loading may be the problem and the file size.

​@@Soparandom3.2 now

It's 3.4 here in Indonesia. Strangely my phone got notified when the game launched to pre-download it but just check it again now that my phone isn't compatible with the game, heck my phone can run WW in the low setting LMAO.

Star rail is the same way too, it's so cringe.

Tbh, I’m a big WuWa enjoyer but I’m also enjoying ZZZ (for now). The problem is that it feels like a more casual version of their other game, HI3. It’ll eventually get stale because it lacks that uniqueness that Genshin has and just feels kinda flat along with the enemies.

​@@TacticalDimples The TV part makes me annoyed so much, I just wanna play the game (Combat)

Not really because Hoyo already has a better combat focused game

Relax lil bro its been exactly 24hrs, give em some time at least before u shit on em. Lmao

@@aleks_moldi sure. Fair is fair after all. If they do give proper compensation for all the troubles I’ll delete this comment. Not that it holds any sort of importance either way. I’m not cocky enough to actually believe a single comment from a total rando does anything anyway. I just find it funny that people were hating so much on WuWa for not being a hoyo game and then when a hoyo game comes out and has problems people stay silent.

Bro I just lost on jinshi at 75 pity to lingyang of all. Save for changli or camellya and her weapon. I would have been happy if I got encore or jianxin band 1.

@@marupurusaivamsi4802 funny you say that because I firstly lost to encore while pulling for Jinhsi

@@陸天篤 I have jiyan , yinlin, e1 verina., now that lingyang. From limited banners.

Not surprising, it's been out for a bit

Got Jiyan and Jinhsi with Jiyan's Signature weapon. Also got the standar 5 star sword. Got all 4 stars and some are S6 and some are close to S6. Got all standard 5 star characters except Ling Yang. I'm at 60 pity currently. And I have spare 80 pulls. I could guarantee Changli if I want to. For a gacha with an expensive development cost as WuWa, I think it's the most less-aggressive in terms of the gacha system. We shall truly see after a few more patches.

Thats a gacha for you, thats how they drag you in

In what aspect? As someone who plays games outside the gatcha space, it was a big letdown to me in all honesty...

Then pls, explain how it's a letdown

​@@Ryzardbecause you have crap taste thats why

​@@Ryzardmihomo

​@@RyzardI've played quite a few. My first is HI3 and then Genshin. After that, I've tried a dozen. I'm also playing PGR (still my favorite gacha), Kuro's previous game. And here's what makes them different: - They implement extremely F2P-friendly systems compared to most gachas. (100% guaranteed rate for new characters in PGR and for weapons in WuWa; lower max pity; shard system; very generous by with premium currency and others like cosmetics; free A and S rank units every after patch in PGR, etc.) - Player-Dev communication is top notch. They basically showed that a gacha game that has higher development cost could still implement a less-aggressive gacha system and still earn enough. For me personally, I'd add combat here but I digress. They're the king of combat in gacha and I have yet to see a gacha game topple them. Keep in mind, Kuro may be in the spotlight but there are also great devs within the gacha sphere like Project Moon's Limbus Company for the same reason. I've heard great things about Arknights as well. We can add some of Hoyo's games here too like HI3 and HSR. But to me personally, they need to reach various factors (especially the 100% guaranteed rate for either a weapon or limited-banner character) for me to even consider their systems on par with how Kuro handles things. I'm emphasizing the 100% rate because gacha is fundamentally predatory. Literally one of the worst monetization for anything. So when I see a gacha game that gets rid of being a "gacha" in some aspect, I put them above the rest.

I agree, so many of them only have 3-5 basic attack + 1 extra combo that slightly different for each character and their ultimate just repeat the same qte move but with cinematic shot. I love the design, the whole vibe and the music of the game, but the combat is disappointing....

@@alluvistcrazy thing is they sometimes don’t even let you use the skills when you want to. jesus christ

SMH

And there's no scaling within team comps so it's pretty boring.

tbf, if Wuwa released after ZZZ and in a polished way with minimal issues, people will still flock to Wuwa because let's be real, its combat is miles ahead of ZZZ, even though ZZZ is supposed to be a "combat oriented" game.

For real I preferof they release HI3rd 2 Than zzz

@@akeemnereida6119 Imagine if instead of HI3 part 2 and ZZZ they released HI3-2 with the Flamechaser cast. Can you imagine ZZZ level of animation quality with Flamechaser arc & story?

your caping as hell give me a break HI3 is garbage, your molding as hell for nothing you gatcha players have a few screw loos

​@@akeemnereida6119 lmao I literally said this

For me I am waiting another honkai game that is different than hi3 and hsr. ZZZ needs a really good innovative game play to get this game going. They really improved hi3 game play with it's part 2 characters but still need an end game modes to make it better.

Basically 💤😴

Every fkn gatcha does that though, idk why people believe it

@@Ryzardwhy are you defending this game so fucking hard? Did you get paid to do it?

​@@Ryzardquiet. WuWa advertised it, but they were honest. Those 40+ limited pulls and free standard selector were not lies.

@@Ryzard hey, other games basically give them easily. Unlike mihoyo

Weird. A lot of the complaints feel like nitpicks. Rerolling, while it is pretty normal, isn't really something required in a gacha or determines if a game is good or not, but idk. Im not a reroller as its just a waste of time I could spend just enjoying the game since I'm not a meta player and just having fun. Other people are allowed to disagree tho. Long premium roll farm is still questionable, but if it does continue to be very slow by the next patch or two, then yea, it's pretty valid critique. Nothing inherently wrong with the TV system, but I can see it just being a preference thing rather than it being something objectively wrong with the game. There is still battles in between and i find it interesting myself. Color choice is idk tbh since I personally don't find it bad so probably just preference or I'm not rly a stickler for details since im just enjoying the combat for what it is. Not sure about rolls and can't speak to much on it yet. For what it is, combat and story aren't too bad so far. I love the differences in gameplay between characters and make them quite flashy. Mobile controls are smooth or at least easier to control than in wuwa personally.

You forgot -unplayabble to some device. There are even some people that pre-download the game and cannot play because suddenly, the game is not compatible with their device.

​@@beestek.94 from what i heard they still can play until there is a update

​@@Ty_Jaccause they are to gather views.

Complains about color choice here, but says it’s a good thing on Wuwa, truly a Kuro shill moment. Idk but for me Vxv is becoming the Steambunx of the Kuro games side of gacha. Bud runs a mile and half to justify anything bad in Wuwa (said that the game has has the best possible lauch a game could have omegalul), even hypothesizes what will be fixed in the future without any type of proof (like how he said about the echoes system on the reaction video earlier today of that other guy’s “i’m quitting wuwa” video).

I already did

Same dude

Oh right, thx for the reminder homeboy🫡

You just reminded me to hop back on wuwa after 2 weeks of break 🙏

Wow you ex Genshin stans are going hard on the ZZZ hate campaign, how many members are you up to, do you have a discord link ?

You got bored after watching you're streamer play the game for a couple of hours ?

Facts

They did change the TV in the beta to not be as bad as it was in the first beta but we all knew they wouldn't remove the TV system. With our integrated it was into the game system.

What did they fix? It still feels tedious

They added the speed up, and reduced how much it is used outside of the main story.

​@@wizkiller96tv And It still turned out to be 80% tv and 20% combat, Please I just wanna play the game not play the Tv

When I play ZZZ 20mins👉🏻 😴💤

Hoyo was always famous for this xD

Hoyoverse? Naaahhh, especially that cai hauyo is announced as main producer of zzz. Expect the devs won't listen and generous to you.

@@selenamor that's true but hey let's hope for the better 👌

They a 100% won't, and I wouldn't get your hopes up

@@saturna1576 yeah no shit my hope aren't too high it's literally hoyo we talking about these mfs never listen

I haven’t been able to play it at all. Traveling so playing mobile only and while I’m able to play WuWa and HSR with no issues, I can’t even get to the ZZZ log-in screen

just uninstall it, it will lessen your stress 😂

Yes, thats a unity issue alot of people have it on the discord, the only current way to make it work is an emulator but its not 100% that itll work

“smooth launch” they said 😂😂😂

it really happens during the first week. 😅

Yup, HI3 or PGR being other zone-based action gacha games.

Yes

Nah you gotta compare it to all the other gachas, they're all competing for people's time. If anything, similarity to HI3 is just another negative. If people wanted that game, they would just go play it. I would be more interested in the opinions of the CN community, because there were so many beta tests for this game, so the final product is likely indicative of what CN wanted the most. If they're not happy, then yeah maybe Hoyo fucked up somewhere

thing is The main reason people compare ZZZ to Wuwa despite the obvious fucking difference is mainly to see if itll outsold wuwa too hence why for some god damn reason people call it the "Wuwa killer" 🤦 since its a "new" hoyoverse game itll no doubt out sold PGR and Honkai impact3rd so its an instant win regardless if its a downgrade so people find no reason to compare because for some reason they base their view on how good the game is with how much money they can suck off from their players who wouldnt want a monopoly am i right?

@@Brother_Zeke that's so sad, no one should like that things, and to think the amount of misleading info around "revenues", twisted narratives and etc Hope one day players know and play more games

Fair but first impression will always put the game in a make or break situation. And that’s usually the case for casual people. If it’s bad, they will abandon it and never look back.

@@bosaciousbagginocious7475 true, this is what exactly happened to me and wuwa. Launch was so bad and the world felt kinda bland to the point i gave up despite the rewards. I went into zzz blind with no expectations, im having fun so far but i can see why people are complaining

@@bosaciousbagginocious7475 First impressions are great compared to WuWa opening section which made me just uninstall the game how trash that was. ZZZ at least has some polish and does not have voice acting and story that sounds like it was made by AI from 3 years ago. Like if all people judged other games like WuWa as harshly they are currently judging ZZZ there would be almost no one left to play WuWa.

Can’t even launch zzz on pc 💀 because it doesn’t support intel

How the tables have turned. Absolute Cinema

It does support Intel, weird misinformation

True.....I guess hoyogames really were for kids.....

I really don't like Hoyo's obsession with Lolis. As if they're trying to attract pdfs. Children characters are fine, but lolis (adult/mature mind in a child's body) are weird to me.

Yea currently there are 5 or 6 lolis in game. 😅

That's a false argument. Wuwa has Encore and Verina as 2 of its 5 standard banner 5*.

@@hijodelsoldeoriente If you look at a small character and think of pdf then you should look in the mirror..

and also game has lots of small children 🤮 and also a Furry 🤮🤮🤮

HSR is their only fav child

​​@@unknownuser6319yup i do feel they like the honkai series and have passion for it unlike a certain game (genshin)

​@@unknownuser6319 They're even planning to develop a Honkai MMO. They're not hiding it.

they already ignore ppls hate for the tvs and did it anyways, they dont gaf

this is true lmao wuwa gives 40 standard pulls via mail and zzz is only 20 while the other 20 is locked on Event tab and not via mail lmao

@@Skyeeee03 More important is that Wuwa gave a 5* from beginner banner but also 2x selectors. And on top of that 4/5 are visually well designed and 3 of those also very good in gameplay. ZZZ needs to atleast give a selector because the choices are much worse in terms of visual design.

@Tiasung true.. ZZZ is mid but that fckin TV system is absolutely trash it makes me sleepy

They didnt lie about the 80 pulls though they said 80 was bangboo pull currency. I can understand them thinking that 100 pulls one. But it also never specified which currency it was.

​@@wizkiller96tv it's still scummy

​@@wizkiller96tv Bruh that is Called Scummy marketing tactics

ong if i dont get ellen i will uninstall

She’s not even a bad character tho? Isn’t she one of the best dps’s?

@@femaleshuichi3715 its not about dmg i hate her design and her voice is cringe in en

​@@femaleshuichi3715 Probably Doesn't like Kid characters, But guess what ZZZ is filled with Lolis

But hsr comes late on ps5 too ..when their genshin is day 1 ps4 . Just wait for it kuro doesn't have much experience as hoyo is .. its a huge standard for a gacha game company that is starting to have console, pc and mobile at the same time . Just wait hsr ps5 is late to by a lot .. i mean 1.6 a lot

You need to also consider Hoyo is a billionaire company probably kuro didn't had the resources to do so. They for sure will have now lol

Bro if u didn't like hsr, no way in hell you'll like this. Do what you want tho homeboy.

i should also add to clarify, bosses are way, but like WAY too passive

I mean visually speaking the characters look a lot worse despite having way higher model and animation quality. That's kind of already a red flag imo.

Why not playing genshin impact when there is no different .